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Old 07-01-2010, 12:45 AM   #1
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Was surprised to see this when I was looking over some parts of the Births and Deaths Act:

S. 13(3) repealed by Merchant Shipping Act 1970 (c. 36), Sch. 5

What would the merchant shipping act have to do with names of persons who are registered being changed?
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:49 AM   #2
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Berths = Births

Is all about the vessel / ship.

Citizen-ship

Partner-ship

Relation-ship

Owner-ship

A birth certificate is a certificate of berth, to show accountability (a count) of a vessel and to log the vessel as being counted.



confused?

Did you actually read the act?

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Old 07-01-2010, 01:04 AM   #3
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Theres nothing left of the Merchant Shipping Act 1970 the one i am scanning at present is 1995.
As far as I can see there is no way to view the section 13.3 which was removed from the Births and Deaths Act, they are a right pain in the ass to read..
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Old 07-01-2010, 01:19 AM   #4
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Finding some interesting stuff now on the most updated version

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Compulsory insurance.
In Part VII of the 1995 Act, after section 192 there is inserted—
" Regulations requiring insurance or security
Compulsory insurance or security
192A. — (1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3) below, the Secretary of State may make regulations requiring that, in such cases as may be prescribed by the regulations, while a ship is in United Kingdom waters, there must be in force in respect of the ship—
(a)
a contract of insurance insuring such person or persons as may be specified by the regulations against such liabilities as may be so specified and satisfying such other requirements as may be so specified, or
(b)
such other security relating to those liabilities as satisfies requirements specified by or under the regulations.
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Old 07-01-2010, 02:55 AM   #5
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Berths = Births

Is all about the vessel / ship.

Citizen-ship

Partner-ship

Relation-ship

Owner-ship

A birth certificate is a certificate of berth, to show accountability (a count) of a vessel and to log the vessel as being counted.



confused?

Did you actually read the act?
very confused

Colonial Courts of Admiralty Act 1890 (c.27)

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Colonial Courts of Admiralty.
— (1) Every court of law in a British possession, which is for the time being declared in pursuance of this Act to be a court of Admiralty, or which, if no such declaration is in force in the possession, has therein original unlimited civil jurisdiction, shall be a court of Admiralty, with the jurisdiction in this Act mentioned, and may for the purpose of that jurisdiction exercise all the powers which it possesses for the purpose of its other civil jurisdiction, and such court in reference to the jurisdiction conferred by this Act is in this Act referred to as a Colonial Court of Admiralty. Where in a British possession the Governor is the sole judicial authority, the expression “court of law” for the purposes of this section includes such Governor.
(2) The jurisdiction of a Colonial Court of Admiralty shall, subject to the provisions of this Act, be over the like places, persons, matters, and things, as the Admiralty jurisdiction of the High Court in England, whether existing by virtue of any statute or otherwise, and the Colonial Court of Admiralty may exercise such jurisdiction in like manner and to as full an extent as the High Court in England, and shall have the same regard as that Court to international law and the comity of nations.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:04 AM   #6
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12.
Application of Act to courts under Foreign Jurisdiction Acts.
It shall be lawful for Her Majesty the Queen in Council by Order to direct that this Act shall, subject to the conditions, exceptions, and qualifications (if any) contained in the Order, apply to any Court established by Her Majesty for the exercise of jurisdiction in any place out of Her Majesty’s dominions which is named in the Order as if that Court were a Colonial Court of Admiralty, and to provide for carrying into effect such application.
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Old 07-01-2010, 08:40 AM   #7
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Berths = Births

Is all about the vessel / ship.

Citizen-ship

Partner-ship

Relation-ship

Owner-ship

A birth certificate is a certificate of berth, to show accountability (a count) of a vessel and to log the vessel as being counted.
Surely this isn't still being believed here?

The suffix "ship" when used represents "state, condition of being". Nothing to do with ships.

-ship
O.E. -sciepe, Anglian -scip "state, condition of being," from P.Gmc. *-skapaz (cf. O.N. -skapr, O.Fris. -skip, Du. -schap, Ger. -schaft), from base *skap- "to create, ordain, appoint." Cognate with O.E. gesceape (see shape).


As for "berth" and "birth" being the same. Berth has nothing to do with accountability or a count of a vessel:

berth
1620s, "convenient sea room" (both for ships and sailors), of uncertain origin, probably from bear (v.) + noun suffix -th as in strength, health, etc. Original sense is preserved in phrase to give (something or someone) wide berth. Meaning "place on a ship to stow chests, room for sailors" is from 1706; extended to non-nautical situations 1778.

–noun 1. a shelflike sleeping space, as on a ship, airplane, or railroad car.
2. Nautical. a. the space allotted to a vessel at anchor or at a wharf.
b. the distance maintained between a vessel and the shore, another vessel, or any object.
c. the position or rank of a ship's officer.
d. the cabin of a ship's officer.


birth
early 13c., from O.N. *byrđr (replacing cognate O.E. gebyrd "birth, descent, race; offspring; nature; fate"), from P.Gmc. *gaburthis (cf. O.Fris. berd, O.S. giburd, Du. geboorte, Ger. geburt, Goth. gabaurţs), from PIE *bhrto pp. of base *bher- (1) "to bear" (cf. Skt. bhrtih "a bringing, maintenance," L. fors, gen. fortis "chance;" see bear (v.)). Suffix -th is for "process" (as in bath, death). Meaning "parentage, lineage, extraction" (revived from O.E.) is from mid-13c. Birth control is from 1914; birth rate from 1859.

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Old 07-01-2010, 11:32 AM   #8
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Now now yoshick

Merlincoves heart was in the right place.

theres no need to be rude

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Now now yoshick

Merlincoves heart was in the right place.

theres no need to be rude

asky
Given you have raised the subject of rudeness; is it asking too much to spell my nickname correctly?



Let me also state [for the record] that my comment was as generic and non-specific as possible, so as to spook the 'spooks'.
I wanted to see who came out of the closet, pointing fingers, in which direction.

My heartfelt thanks, to you asky, for being the first spook to be spooked.




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I also want it recorded that vodka and the holiday season reap havoc on my ability to type as accurately as I think.
So, I am asking for some 'slack' when it comes to my typos ... for the next few days anyway.
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Given you have raised the subject of rudeness; is it asking too much to spell my nickname correctly

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I also want it recorded that vodka and the holiday season reap havoc on my ability to type as accurately as I think
Fucking hell, yozhik! Pot, kettle???
How much have you had?
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Best post of the year by far

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I also want it recorded that vodka and the holiday season reap havoc on my ability to type as accurately as I think.
So, I am asking for some 'slack' when it comes to my typos ... for the next few days anyway.
Couldnt you have offered me the same courtesy?

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hello merlincove
Dont forget this while you are on
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Berths = Births

Is all about the vessel / ship.

Citizen-ship

Partner-ship

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A birth certificate is a certificate of berth, to show accountability (a count) of a vessel and to log the vessel as being counted.
Care to counter number 6s post

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Given you have raised the subject of rudeness; is it asking too much to spell my nickname correctly
Perhaps, considering the vodka, that should be yoz hic
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Dont forget this while you are on

Care to counter number 6s post

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i will answer when a recognisable question has been asked
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i think asky and number 6 are lovers, must forgive me also as im on the vodka.

who is the queen?
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Perhaps, considering the vodka, that should be yoz hic

for once 6 you made my chuckle!
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Best post of the year by far

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Perhaps, considering the vodka, that should be yoz hic
actually ... not far wrong!


But when its this bloody cheap ... who cares?!?!
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