do you know about orgonite?

[vienna]

here's a question about organite from a longer interview with the guy that started the unhived mind website

full interview here


Q: What is orgone and what are the uses of orgone?

Orgone is a sub-atomic energy/radiation which William Reich made more public although it was known even before him. Everything is made up of Orgone and this is why a surplus of good Orgone known as OR can help rejuvenate the body in a similar way to a Multiple Wave Oscillator in some ways better and some ways not as good! Orgonite is the new child on the block in which it can transmute deadly orgone (DOR) caused by microwaves, nuke radiation into good orgone (OR).

Don Croft brought this form of Orgone to the masses and many followers on have done some wonderful work with this. Orgonite is seen as a threat by the NSA and big boys to National Security, this is why Don Croft and DB are hounded by spooks!

The fact that DB was born into the Order of Illuminati after his Merovingian French bloodline mother was sold by THE JESUITS to his Illuminati Satanist father. He was to grew up and be an Oracle, remote viewer for the establishment! Luckily he got away from this and of course poses another threat due to that.


Don Croft's wife is a strong psychic and this is how they protect themselves and last so long from the spooks from NSA etc. One time the spooks had some Uranium planted in DB's water meter to poison him and his family thats how bad it gets.

They hate the fact that Orgone knowledge is spreading. They suppressed William Reich from furthering his Orgone studies etc by jailing him and burning all his books.

What were they worried about? Reich made a free energy engine with Orgone! Some say the Joe Cell utilises Orgone in part of its free energy giving for old model carb engines. Anyhow you can build a Cloudbuster and break up chemtrails within a given range.


I have one of these and I've had some weird experiences since I've messed with Orgone! One night I was woken up around 04:30am to a zum zum zummmz zummmmmmmmm noise really quick near my window.

Unfortunately just waking up I wasn't quick enough to see anything but it was certainly strange. This happened not long after I installed the cloudbuster. To me it was like a propulsion of some kind, I looked out the window and nothing.

There wasn't any light of any kind during the noise nothing. If you understand Reich and Orgone you will understand why I thought it could be a UFO.

I believe that our creators check out humans who are evolving mentally. When you utilise orgone you create a radius of orgone energy in the area which can obviously be detected with the right equipment and I'm sure they can see this.

I also own a Powerwand*which is a very powerful tool.


I used it under my pillow one night and dreamt how I'd lose my job in much detail. The next day I felt funny before going to work and used the powerwand for protection in case I was being astrally attacked since I was active in the orgonite world back then. Low and behold what I was given in my dream happened almost identically except one thing.

It was even spot on in an area you wouldn't have thought. If your around orgone long enough you saturate with orgone and you can have these paranormal events etc. Also once saturated you should be able to go through airport scanners with metal no problem. The orgone defeats the energy/radiation of the scanner.

I know this because I've done it and I was told prior it works and I proved it. Talking about UFO's and Paranormal is another big topic in itself but theres definately something in this area.

I made a really powerful HHG once which was big and had a reactor core and a scatter coil. The Energy it was giving off as it was finishing setting (resin) near my monitor was so incredible my ears were almost popping.

I do not appreciate Temporal Coadjutor Sherry Shriner trying to take all the glory for Orgonite away from Don Croft calling him a pagan and his work of pagans. Oh I almost forgot but during setting the Resin on my Cloudbuster I was Buzzed by a very low flying helicopter and my neighbour was with me and commented.

This is a common occurance for new makers of Cloudbusters and it lasts for a short while then they get fed up.

[rossus]

Originally Posted by gorana

How does orgonite work?

if you don't believe in it it doesn't.
if you believe in it, it does a little. i'll explain.

orgonite is never practical, because when you believe in evil then you blow life into this illusion of evil.
and then you need a solution: orgonite

if you put your trust in orgonite to fix the evil & get rid of the fear...
then it will work sort off.

me thinks it's better not to believe in evil in the first place.


i think the reason illuminati like organisations don't like orgonite,
is because it helps people to no longer be affraid... because they trust in something.

if people are not affraid, they cannot be manipulated by fear anymore.
so, if you ask me.
IF the illuminati truely don't like Orgonite and hate the fact that "the knowledge is spreading"
(which is something that is often repeated by orgonite-people, but something that i doubt )

it is not the orgonite they don't like,
but people that trust in something to cure the fear... because like i said they're less easily manipulated

[revolutionary_jam]

he didn't say evil

[rossus]

Originally Posted by revolutionary_jam

he didn't say evil

many people do in the orgonite bu$ine$$;
and people like don_croft (who got mentioned here before) are all about making people paranoid.

i don't know if they do it on purpose (they probably are)
they could also gotten that paranoid just by themselves.

but paranoia and fear is the fuel for orgonite business to work.
without it, there would be no need for orgonite.
without it, there would be no ghosts and "negative entities" and "negative energy" to protect from.

but ofcourse, that just my opinion

[vienna]

Originally Posted by rossus

many people do in the orgonite bu$ine$$;
and people like don_croft (who got mentioned here before) are all about making people paranoid.

i don't know if they do it on purpose (they probably are)
they could also gotten that paranoid just by themselves.

but paranoia and fear is the fuel for orgonite business to work.
without it, there would be no need for orgonite.
without it, there would be no ghosts and "negative entities" and "negative energy" to protect from.

but ofcourse, that just my opinion

except Croft is constantly telling people to make their own organite and experiment with it - hardly good business practice on his part

[rossus]

Originally Posted by vienna

except Croft is constantly telling people to make their own organite and experiment with it - hardly good business practice on his part

maybe he got other income other than selling orgonite.

many people get paid from people with "a higher position" for leading people off track with their wacko pleiadians and other new age crap.
it's good to have as much people stuck in false belief systems as possible.

as long as we're busy looking in the wrong direction and fighting the wrong enemy,
we won't be a threat.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by rossus

maybe he got other income other than selling orgonite.

many people get paid from people with "a higher position" for leading people off track with their wacko pleiadians and other new age crap.
it's good to have as much people stuck in false belief systems as possible.

as long as we're busy looking in the wrong direction and fighting the wrong enemy,
we won't be a threat.

agree with you up to a point but there's no harm in looking into Reich's discoveries and testing them out for yourself -

plus the amount of hassle these people claim they're geting from the NSA etc - they have vids of helicopters over their houses etc - makes me think they're on to something - much like the Joe Cell


I've made organite and 'gifted' - personally I can't vouch for it but I still keep an open mind - I plan to make a Joe Cell over the next few weeks too

[brett]

AGAIN, I say - where are the EQUATIONS????

Without these, it's nothing but bull....

[mr_moon]

Originally Posted by brett

AGAIN, I say - where are the EQUATIONS????

Without these, it's nothing but bull....

Science and equations can only go so far before the left-brain cannot detect it anymore and it becomes right-brain intuition or Quantum...

Also Orgonite brings a great sense of Love. You only need to look at a piece of creatively, beautifully crafted Orgonite to know that something is happening- even if it is merely stimulating your imagination into a creative power. You can feel the energy if you place your hand over it there is no doubt about that- many people i have spoken to (skeptics included!!) have felt energy emitting from the devices my dad makes.

We sell them but the money that is made just about covers the manufacture of another one. No profit is made from them because we believe people should be entitled to own something that brings creativity, Love and Joy into their lives in a Cosmic way.

There is always subversion in any creative field but that's just life is it not? Is subversion not a creative process in itself?

[mr_moon]

Originally Posted by rossus

but paranoia and fear is the fuel for orgonite business to work.
without it, there would be no need for orgonite.
without it, there would be no ghosts and "negative entities" and "negative energy" to protect from.

but ofcourse, that just my opinion

You know i've been feeling this opinion that if you don't believe in 'negativity' it doesn't exist and i can honestly say that it is close to ignoring it. We live in a vast universe filled with infinite possibilities... of course negativity exists! It is how we perceive it that is important. We can become severely imbalanced through the belief that negativity doesn't exist, through the belief that positivity doesn't exist... they exist simultaneously and we can perceive them as one or the other... hopefully mankind will eventually see them both at the same time...!!

Duality occurs if we have the belief that something doesn't exist... EVERYTHING exists at the same time, in the same moment and it is up to us individually and collectively to help each other to understand that.

It's a struggle when you see something bad happening- like people getting murdered or tortured- if you have the 'belief' that negativity doesn't exist... how do you deal with that?

Our 'realities' are personal and collective and whatever goes on in them is through our choice. Energy travelling through dimensions in infinity.

Is there even any point discussing this? Who knows!

[brett]

mr_moon - I don't mean to be rude, but what the hell is THAT supposed to mean????

"Science and equations can only go so far before the left-brain cannot detect it anymore and it becomes right-brain intuition or Quantum..."

I have in my posession EVERY published work by Wilhelm Reich INCLUDING two rare microfilms purchased from the Wilhelm Reich Museum containing MANY articles that had been assumed destroyed by the FDA!!

If you (or any other orgonite fans out there), had taken the time to purchase something called "Rules to follow in basic Research", written by the man himself, you would KNOW that without a Scientific Formula that detects, measures and PROVES Beyond Doubt what you are talking about - you're words mean nothing!!

Again - i'm not being rude, but no-one on here has offered ANY formulae to PROVE that orgonite actually WORKS!!

I emailed Don Croft about this WEEKS ago - and he didn't bother to reply, so what else can I say....

[orgo knight]

Originally Posted by brett

mr_moon - I don't mean to be rude, but what the hell is THAT supposed to mean????

"Science and equations can only go so far before the left-brain cannot detect it anymore and it becomes right-brain intuition or Quantum..."

I have in my posession EVERY published work by Wilhelm Reich INCLUDING two rare microfilms purchased from the Wilhelm Reich Museum containing MANY articles that had been assumed destroyed by the FDA!!

If you (or any other orgonite fans out there), had taken the time to purchase something called "Rules to follow in basic Research", written by the man himself, you would KNOW that without a Scientific Formula that detects, measures and PROVES Beyond Doubt what you are talking about - you're words mean nothing!!

Again - i'm not being rude, but no-one on here has offered ANY formulae to PROVE that orgonite actually WORKS!!

I emailed Don Croft about this WEEKS ago - and he didn't bother to reply, so what else can I say....

This post by Don Croft on the EW site might answer your question re: him not responing to your email. cheers
http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/vi...p?p=2927#p2927

[brett]

Thanks for that!!

Still, I have emailed other members on the site, asking to become a member - and no-one has bothered to reply!! I find it hard to believe that they have ALL had their mail "hacked", so to speak!!

Also, it still doesn't answer my question regarding evidence of orgonite's functuality.

If it works - fine, but no-one seems to be able to tell me anything!!

[mr_moon]

Originally Posted by brett

mr_moon - I don't mean to be rude, but what the hell is THAT supposed to mean????

"Science and equations can only go so far before the left-brain cannot detect it anymore and it becomes right-brain intuition or Quantum..."

I have in my posession EVERY published work by Wilhelm Reich INCLUDING two rare microfilms purchased from the Wilhelm Reich Museum containing MANY articles that had been assumed destroyed by the FDA!!

If you (or any other orgonite fans out there), had taken the time to purchase something called "Rules to follow in basic Research", written by the man himself, you would KNOW that without a Scientific Formula that detects, measures and PROVES Beyond Doubt what you are talking about - you're words mean nothing!!

Again - i'm not being rude, but no-one on here has offered ANY formulae to PROVE that orgonite actually WORKS!!

I emailed Don Croft about this WEEKS ago - and he didn't bother to reply, so what else can I say....

Eh?

What about your quote from Walter Russell?

"When our knowing exceeds our sensing, we will no longer be deceived by the illusions of our senses."

[tothestars]

What is so special with orgonite is that it can get rid of the negative effect made by heavy manmade special designed toxins (for the purpose of destroy body and soul of humans) and from HAARP "radiation" (one effect of haarp is that it silence the Black Noise) etc.. .

The human mind can actually change things by believing that things are not dangerous even if it is in its orgininally state.

BUT

The exception is HAARP,cellphone radiation etc and those toxins you find in chemtrails. You will need orgonite to make the change!

When that is said it could be dispelled by highly evolved spirits far up in the dimmensions (i would at least say 7th dimmension)

I just gave some orgonite to a person who again placed it by her son`s computer and he got rid of some of his problems (dry skin and tiredness by being near computers and other electromagnetic pollution devices).

I have mad orgonite for 3 years now and i got a lot of confirmations that it works.

[brett]

That's fine - but HOW and WHY??

Don't get me wrong, i'll devise some tests of my own to gain some answers - but ONLY if someone can give me a starting point!!

Everyone mentions the benefits, but NO-ONE can give me any answers!!

For instance, how can anyone say "I gifted this transmitter, etc..." without actually KNOWING that it's worked, and HOW??

[mr_moon]

Originally Posted by brett

That's fine - but HOW and WHY??

Don't get me wrong, i'll devise some tests of my own to gain some answers - but ONLY if someone can give me a starting point!!

Everyone mentions the benefits, but NO-ONE can give me any answers!!

For instance, how can anyone say "I gifted this transmitter, etc..." without actually KNOWING that it's worked, and HOW??

Brett my friend xxx

Does all this Orgonite stuff resonate with you? Or is it getting you frustrated...? Because if it's the latter then my advice is to just leave it to others and find something that resonates with you on a personal level or genuinely experiment for yourself and see what happens!

It's funny but some things cannot be described in standard communication and dialogue... only experienced... which is probably why this particular area is so bloody difficult to grasp!!

It's like trying to explain what Love is... it just is... and in order to fully understand it, we must experience it for ourselves. This is why orgonite throws in all these little explanation difficulties!

Love to You
xxxxxxxxxx

[brett]

I don't have an issue with orgonite - it's just that a LOT of people are touting the benefits with NO evidence.

For instance, Wilhelm Reich had the BRILLIANT To-T equation to PROVE the existence of Orgone, but there is nothing to prove the workings of orgonite.

Look, i'll let you into a secret - I have developed a WORKING Orgone Motor (which is NOWHERE NEAR as difficult as it sounds), which STOPS working if you place it next to a flourescent light or if it's particulary cloudy on DOR clad days.

That is PROOF on the fruits of my labours - but again, I say, there is nothing in this regard concerning orgonite.

Don't get me wrong, if orgonite works, i'll be the FIRST to implement the benefits, but WHERE is the evidence??

[mr_moon]

Originally Posted by brett

I don't have an issue with orgonite - it's just that a LOT of people are touting the benefits with NO evidence.

For instance, Wilhelm Reich had the BRILLIANT To-T equation to PROVE the existence of Orgone, but there is nothing to prove the workings of orgonite.

Look, i'll let you into a secret - I have developed a WORKING Orgone Motor (which is NOWHERE NEAR as difficult as it sounds), which STOPS working if you place it next to a flourescent light or if it's particulary cloudy on DOR clad days.

That is PROOF on the fruits of my labours - but again, I say, there is nothing in this regard concerning orgonite.

Don't get me wrong, if orgonite works, i'll be the FIRST to implement the benefits, but WHERE is the evidence??

Hey man i'm interested in the Orgone motor you've built... would it be easy to build one myself?

I've had an idea how to test Orgonite and see if it works... put your motor near a flourescent light to make it stop working then put some Orgonite next to it and see if it starts working again!

Worth a try eh?

Do you have any plans for an Orgone motor? Instructions or anything?

[brett]

THAT is a good idea, mr_moon!!

Firstly, I have to make some orgonite, and then I will let you know the results.

Indeed, I will upload the video to youtube with ALL the information regarding the Orgone Motor and it's construction with the Orgonite results!!

I hope it counteracts the DOR - and if it does, YOU will receive an Honourable Mention!!

In regard to the Motor, my 9 year old daughter can now build one in less than Two Hours - so it's not that difficult!!

Maybe the Mods can make my Video a sticky on the forums....