BNP and the movement

cpfc12 · 14-12-2009, 06:51 PM

Just like to say before you read my post, that i am not trying to imply that alex jones is alligned with nick griffin, but i was browsing through the bnp website to see what they have been up to since question time and i saw that on the group section on the far right, there is a group titled alex jones, infowars, along with these other groups such as "save our pubs" etc. Is this a sign of the times ? It seems worrying that the bnp are jumping on the conspiracy band wagon, i mean lets face it they are entitled to more than any other political party as they certainly aren't mainstream, but it is confirming my worse fears of what could happen in the future. It must be the users of the website who go on infowars, but anyway just wanted to hear people's opinions on this ?
http://bnp.org.uk/

http://bnp.org.uk/groups/alex-jones

soleil · 14-12-2009, 06:58 PM

Alex Jones is only 35? :-o

cpfc12 · 14-12-2009, 07:00 PM

Another point, in one way its being ocherstrated to bring them into power, i mean cmon the white working class in one says has been destroyed and ignored, by the white liberal middle classes, who tell them to keep their mouths shut about the problems they see, if you read the bnp articles on there, its worded in a way in which the majority of the public can relate to, not buzz words which the mainstream parties use. This probably is done on purpose, you make the situation an annoying nanny state, like a child being smothered to death by its over "caring" annoying mother, and then people come voting for the dad, who seems to be real at first and geniune but ends up beating the kid to death, yeh i know bad metaphors, but i try my best

If the mass media really wanted to bring down nick griffin, they would show him in positions of power, making speeches like Hitler did, this would in effect make people weary of him and realise "oh shit this dude may be like the next hitler", instead they have middle class "experts" slag him off, in their well spoken accents, and i mean cmon the bnp voters or future bnp voters can't relate to those "experts", they just see the puppet government trying to put a lid on something an issue (not complaining about immigration here its a different debate) but its the middle class liberals being set up to act as the oppressers in this situation being fully backed by the elite, in order to create enormous support for a fascist party (again saying that new labour has already commited racial genocide, well its debateble) Its human instinct, you tell a child not to press the red button, and he eventually will, this is happening on a big level in society, (well thats my opinion anyway)

decode reality · 14-12-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cpfc12

Just like to say before you read my post, that i am not trying to imply that alex jones is alligned with nick griffin, but i was browsing through the bnp website to see what they have been up to since question time and i saw that on the group section on the far right, there is a group titled alex jones, infowars, along with these other groups such as "save our pubs" etc. Is this a sign of the times ? It seems worrying that the bnp are jumping on the conspiracy band wagon, i mean lets face it they are entitled to more than any other political party as they certainly aren't mainstream, but it is confirming my worse fears of what could happen in the future. It must be the users of the website who go on infowars, but anyway just wanted to hear people's opinions on this ?
http://bnp.org.uk/

http://bnp.org.uk/groups/alex-jones

Yes, I think they are jumping on that wagon.
It's just like when a few people in the so-called "far right" latched onto David Icke early on and took what they perceived as 'anti Jewish' messages in Icke's writings.

cpfc12 · 14-12-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by decode reality

Yes, I think they are jumping on that wagon.
It's just like when a few people in the so-called "far right" latched onto David Icke early on and took what they perceived as 'anti Jewish' messages in Icke's writings.

yeah i can see but reading further comments on his website by his users, its quite scary, i mean some of his policies such on freedom of speech and crime etc seem like a breath of fresh air, but when there is mention of toughness on immigrants and "ordinary britains" it just gets really scary.

As talking about political correctness, i always thought that you have to respect people's right for freedom of speech, but it doesn't mean that you have to respect what they are saying, its the price of the freedom of speech, otherwise instead of preventing hitlers you are becoming one

however i want to go back to my point about freedom of speech, its actually bullshit, in relation to the bnp, because it most likely will mean that "ordinary britains" are the only ones to attain freedom of speech and not musilims.

I don't mean this to be a "oh look at me so liberal and profound complaining about the bnp" i mean the liberal middle classes annoy me, but i am just realising now how the party can fit to the elite's agenda so perfectly

vetis · 14-12-2009, 07:43 PM

Its probably just people on the right and more likely to question the governments motives, at least the current governments. The left are way to happy to let freedoms and sovereignty to be demolished if it makes a few people happy or not upset people.

14-12-2009, 06:51 PM	#1
cpfc12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,903	BNP and the movement Just like to say before you read my post, that i am not trying to imply that alex jones is alligned with nick griffin, but i was browsing through the bnp website to see what they have been up to since question time and i saw that on the group section on the far right, there is a group titled alex jones, infowars, along with these other groups such as "save our pubs" etc. Is this a sign of the times ? It seems worrying that the bnp are jumping on the conspiracy band wagon, i mean lets face it they are entitled to more than any other political party as they certainly aren't mainstream, but it is confirming my worse fears of what could happen in the future. It must be the users of the website who go on infowars, but anyway just wanted to hear people's opinions on this ? http://bnp.org.uk/ http://bnp.org.uk/groups/alex-jones Last edited by cpfc12; 14-12-2009 at 06:51 PM.

14-12-2009, 07:43 PM	#6
vetis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 731	Its probably just people on the right and more likely to question the governments motives, at least the current governments. The left are way to happy to let freedoms and sovereignty to be demolished if it makes a few people happy or not upset people. __________________ Two great European narcotics, alcohol and Christianity - Nietzsche

14-12-2009, 06:58 PM	#2
soleil Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 423	Alex Jones is only 35? :-o

14-12-2009, 07:00 PM	#3
cpfc12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,903	Another point, in one way its being ocherstrated to bring them into power, i mean cmon the white working class in one says has been destroyed and ignored, by the white liberal middle classes, who tell them to keep their mouths shut about the problems they see, if you read the bnp articles on there, its worded in a way in which the majority of the public can relate to, not buzz words which the mainstream parties use. This probably is done on purpose, you make the situation an annoying nanny state, like a child being smothered to death by its over "caring" annoying mother, and then people come voting for the dad, who seems to be real at first and geniune but ends up beating the kid to death, yeh i know bad metaphors, but i try my best If the mass media really wanted to bring down nick griffin, they would show him in positions of power, making speeches like Hitler did, this would in effect make people weary of him and realise "oh shit this dude may be like the next hitler", instead they have middle class "experts" slag him off, in their well spoken accents, and i mean cmon the bnp voters or future bnp voters can't relate to those "experts", they just see the puppet government trying to put a lid on something an issue (not complaining about immigration here its a different debate) but its the middle class liberals being set up to act as the oppressers in this situation being fully backed by the elite, in order to create enormous support for a fascist party (again saying that new labour has already commited racial genocide, well its debateble) Its human instinct, you tell a child not to press the red button, and he eventually will, this is happening on a big level in society, (well thats my opinion anyway)