Dreams, The Afterlife, and The 4th Dimension

[metacomet]

This is what happens when you dream, and when you die :

The spirit body exits the physical container in this reality by raising it's vibration beyond the physical and assumes form in the 4th dimension, where it's thoughts, emotions, and deep seeded fears assume actual form and shape. This materialization of thought is used against the dreamer in his daze, as he does not realize that his dreams are actual events in 'the astral' or 4th dimension.

When speaking of the 4th dimension, I am referring to a non-physical dimension outside of our perception, and outside of 'spacetime' as we know it. In quantum physics the 4th dimension is accounted for as the origin of 'Time' and it overlays our dimension, which we experience quite obviously as movement, differences, distances, etc. ... time is a dimensional phenomena, it is not local to the 3rd dimension, but is instead a 4th dimension. All 3rd dimensional beings have a 4th dimensional self which becomes aware 1/3 of their life in order to familiarize them with their next highest dimension.

In other words, all of us dream, and are sleeping (or should sleep) 1/3 of our life, because our 4th dimensional self must experience itself 1/3 of our lives, in order to prepare us for the Big Transition of full awareness and existence in the 4th dimension...

What is that 'Big Transition'called for us? Death.



The act of dreaming is the act of reconnecting with the 4th dimensional 'higher self' of a human being (which is also contained by 5th-7th(?) or perhaps infinite higher selves, which is a topic I will hold for now). This aspect of ourself creates objects, places, people, and even realities with thought alone. This is called 'dreaming' if the person is unaware.

Dreaming is dimensional travel, and so is the afterlife. But when a human being, incarnated in the 3rd dimension has a dream, he is left dazed, confused, and unaware, subject to all sorts of abuse... and this is how he is fed upon by 4th dimensional beings. This is why he must be easily controlled and is genetically programmed. This is also why he is bombarded by negative or 'dark' imagery, encouraged to feel guilt, jealousy, anger, shame, or other lower dimensional emotions, as well as endless thoughts which cause him pain. He is being fed on by the 4th dimension.

Without time, there is no possibility of injury or pain or suffering or guilt, anger, jealousy, or any negative feeling. Time is experienced here in the 3rd and lower dimensions... when we ascend to the 4th or 5th dimensions which are irrespective of time, we are free of all suffering and despair.

This is because lower dimensional feelings, based in time and separation (space), cannot be carried into 'heaven' which is outside of time and space.



We should not despair that we are fed on by 4th dimensional beings.

It is only fair in that human beings do ourselves, take advantage of and feed upon beings of lesser awareness ... and we are even more capable of freeing ourselves and fighting back then some animals.

As beings of lesser awareness in the 4th dimension, we are given time through 'dreaming' to familiarize ourself with the 4th dimension. It is here we are supposed to learn how to become thought-creators and manifest our own reality, but the dreamworld as we have access to it has been muted and curtained off from us, through manipulation of our mind and the stripping of our dna. A human being without ability to let go of this reality and exist in a thought based, non-physical reality, is at a disadvantage, and fears death.


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When a human being dies, he will not be familiar with the 4th dimension, because he has been kept from becoming lucid in his dreams and realizing his 4th dimensional self. Growing up so to speak and getting a headstart in the 4th dimension is important, and so as our physical body regenerates, our spirit enters a daily cycle of exiting the body, to enter the fourth dimension, which is to be entered 'permanently' at 'death'.



In the 4th dimension, other beings aware of thought-creation create their own objects and stages and often subject the dreamer or 'soul of the damned' to tortures and long, chaptered dreams, escapades of unfair or painful experiences which teach him little but release great volumes of emotion based on Tension and Fear. This is the lowest and least enjoyable emotions the human is capable of having. He will also dream of fighting, murdering, or debaucheries and scenes unthinkable for him in waking life. These are often called 'nightmares'. This is the mechanism used by higher dimensional beings to confuse and strip the human soul of it's impurities and feed upon it. This dissolving of the ego is an incredibly painful experience.

A human being full of fear, despair, guilt or is a large meal, and as he unravels his ego he is easily fed upon.

If a human being has cleansed his ego, and strengthened his spirit before death, he is a warrior in the 4th dimension, and not cattle, for the simple fact that he is vibrating at a higher frequency then the predators.



A human being is encouraged his entire life, by his own thoughts and higher self, to strive for something more then the physical, whether through his own self awareness and integrity or the instruction of higher dimensional beings (captured and re-scripted in many 'religions'). If a human being decides to be come spiritually aware, he is rewarded by synchronicities and 'spiritual experiences' and grows as a bigger and stronger being in the 3rd dimension. But at the same time, a human soul which is strong and healthy is still assaulted by 'lower dimensions' and 4th dimensional predators. Such is the nature of reality, the strongest bull will always be hunted first.

This is the benefit to 4th dimensional beings, of keeping 3rd dimensional humans polluted, and ignorant of their higher self.





Human beings are capable of becoming 'lucid' in dreams or realizing that they are dreaming. In such states they become thought-creators, changing their dream experience, and are incapable of being controlled. It is paramount to the hierarchy of dimensions thatbeings in the 4th dimension feed upon those who cannot see them or combat them physically, that is, those in the 3rd dimension.

If a human becomes aware of the 4th dimension he witnesses the predatory field around him, allowing him to escape the proverbial lions and alligators of our dreamscape...





But there are even deeper mechanisms within our own physical mind, devoted to allowing our control. We must realize that as we have affected the genetic range of all animals (the dog for instance) the human being has likewise been run through many genetic courses by 4th dimensional intervention... this is quite literally what makes humans different from animals. We are of higher dimensions, but are cloaked in this dimension and manipulated by it, as 3rd dimensional beings.

This truth has been interpreted as human beings having divine origin, which is true, in that we are higher dimensional beings 'trapped' in physicality. But the genetic human body is in fact like all other bodies, a physical object which is fed upon, and has been manipulated through genetic intervention. There is still genuine beauty and greatness in the human experience, and the human body, but there are also such things in many of the animals we have killed, driven extinct or near extinction.

For us, it does not matter if we are ever harmed physically... we are still fed upon by non-physical beings. To die in the physical is not the only thing. You can also be terrorized and fed on in the afterlife. To arm yourself and be prepared you must become familiar with the next dimension, the fabric of the afterlife.

If we dream with lucidity, become proficient in the 'astral realm' through astral projection or deep meditation... awareness and strength in our 4th dimensional self develops as something we will inherit at death. Otherwise, we are going to be naked and afraid.

If we remain spiritually pure, we are untouchable as a law of vibration does not allow lower vibrating 4th dimensional beings to feed on a 5th dimensional soul.

This is a David Icke inspired rant, and I thank you for reading.

[metacomet]

Icke's research on the 4th dimension:

The reptilians not only come from another planet, but are also from another dimension, the lower level of the fourth dimension, the one nearest the physical world. Barkun argues that the introduction of different dimensions allows Icke to skip awkward questions about which part of the universe the reptilians come from and how they got here.[48] Icke writes that the universe consists of an infinite number of frequencies or dimensions of life that share the same space, just as television and radio frequencies do. Some people can tune their consciousness to other wavelengths, which is what psychic power consists of, and it is from one of these other dimensions that the Anunnaki are controlling this world by possessing certain bloodlines—though just as fourth-dimensional reptilians control us, they are controlled, in turn, by a fifth dimension.[49] The lower level of the fourth dimension is what others call the "lower astral dimension." Icke argues that it is where demons live, the entities Satanists summon during their rituals. They are, in fact, summoning the reptilians

In our transition from the 3rd dimension to the 4th, we are liable to become situated in higher frequencies then even the beings in the lower 4th who have been preying upon us.

During the ascension process, which is an ongoing process and which occurs cyclically on this planet, beings of the 3rd dimension are brought to the 4th. Human beings specifically are manipulated so as to avoid this transition, either by going underground from fear of natural disaster or by simply polluting their minds and bodies to the point that a dimensional shift through their DNA is impossible.

The ascension process is related to but not not entirely situated around 2012. It is an ongoing process, the symptoms of which are widely detailed as 'signs' for the 'end of days' or undefinable anxieties or intuitive feelings amongst our species that things are rapidly changing or a special event is coming

[tortle]

Originally Posted by metacomet

Icke's research on the 4th dimension:



In our transition from the 3rd dimension to the 4th, we are liable to become situated in higher frequencies then even the beings in the lower 4th who have been preying upon us.

During the ascension process, which is an ongoing process and which occurs cyclically on this planet, beings of the 3rd dimension are brought to the 4th. Human beings specifically are manipulated so as to avoid this transition, either by going underground from fear of natural disaster or by simply polluting their minds and bodies to the point that a dimensional shift through their DNA is impossible.

The ascension process is related to but not not entirely situated around 2012. It is an ongoing process, the symptoms of which are widely detailed as 'signs' for the 'end of days' or undefinable anxieties or intuitive feelings amongst our species that things are rapidly changing or a special event is coming

Great posts and thoughts, I really like refreshing threads like these.

From what I understand the 3rd and 4th dimensions are both part of polarity consciousness, that is why there are negative entities on the 4th dimension, although they tend to hang around on the lower and middle parts of the 4th dimension only.

Once you get to the 5th dimension you enter Unity consiousness, and apparently it's a state of being that transcends the polar concepts of good and evil. They are still understood, but they are seen from a new perspective which allows your mind to transcend them. I think it's like good and evil are the two bases of a triangle, and Unity is the top of the triangle looking down on them form a higher perspective, kind of like how we in 3D would view a 2D person moving around on flatland.

Apparently Unity exist from the 5th to the 12th dimensions, after that there is an entirely new way, but our minds won't be able to grasp it until we get there.

[j35p3r4d0]

simply the understanding of time as non-linear, as with perception and consciousness.

the logical extrapolations are numerous and wholly far reaching

[les_paul_robot]

Icke is corrected by The Author of M5, in that there are 3D reptilians and 4D reptilians.

[metacomet]

Originally Posted by les_paul_robot

Icke is corrected by The Author of M5, in that there are 3D reptilians and 4D reptilians.

So they are close enough to our dimension that they can exist in both?

[1977]

Interesting. I've mentioned before that Icke's perspective is quite similar to what the Neoplatonist Porphyry said:

"The realm of the soul, being semi-material, has its inhabitants possessing semi-material (astral) forms. Some of them are good, others evil; some are kindly disposed towards man, others are malicious. Both classes have ethereal but changeable bodies; the good ones are masters of their bodies and desires, the evil ones are governed by the desires of their bodies. They are all powers for good or for evil, divine, animal, or diabolic invisible influences creating, by their interior activity, passions, desires, vices, and virtues in the souls of beings. The more evil they are, the more do their forms approach the corporeal state. They then live on the exhalations of matter; they induce men to murder and to kill animals, they enjoy the vapours arising from the victims, and grow fat by absorbing the ethereal substances of the dying. They are, therefore, always ready to incite men to wars and crimes, and they collect in great crowds in places where men or animals are killed."

[metacomet]

Excellent quote 1977

Originally Posted by metacomet

In our transition from the 3rd dimension to the 4th, we are liable to become situated in higher frequencies *than even the beings in the lower 4th who have been preying upon us.

Can't edit, but have OCD... oh well.

[les_paul_robot]

Originally Posted by metacomet

So they are close enough to our dimension that they can exist in both?

From my understanding there are both groups. 3rd density reptilians are like us, i.e. they interact with 3rd density matter the same way.
Then there are 4D reptilians you can see on the astral.

I understand they have technology to phase slightly out of 3D to walk through walls to do abductions.
And I don't think they actually shapeshift. Either it's technology that makes them look like humans, or our narrower perception of frequencies (as caused by when the reptilians modified us) just means that that's the part we see.
I think.

[shellygurrrl]

Originally Posted by 1977

Interesting. I've mentioned before that Icke's perspective is quite similar to what the Neoplatonist Porphyry said:

"The realm of the soul, being semi-material, has its inhabitants possessing semi-material (astral) forms. Some of them are good, others evil; some are kindly disposed towards man, others are malicious. Both classes have ethereal but changeable bodies; the good ones are masters of their bodies and desires, the evil ones are governed by the desires of their bodies. They are all powers for good or for evil, divine, animal, or diabolic invisible influences creating, by their interior activity, passions, desires, vices, and virtues in the souls of beings. The more evil they are, the more do their forms approach the corporeal state. They then live on the exhalations of matter; they induce men to murder and to kill animals, they enjoy the vapours arising from the victims, and grow fat by absorbing the ethereal substances of the dying. They are, therefore, always ready to incite men to wars and crimes, and they collect in great crowds in places where men or animals are killed."

Now that is truly fascinating, that way back then, someone was STILL aware of these things and pondering them.

Great thread by the way!

[metacomet]

Originally Posted by shellygurrrl

Now that is truly fascinating, that way back then, someone was STILL aware of these things and pondering them.

Great thread by the way!

Thanks!

[steevo]

Interesting thread. Something more for me to ponder over.

Cheers Metacomet

[sodi]

So a non prepared soul can be tortured in the 4th dimension ?

[2013]

The Barbanell Report: Transmitted to Marie Cherrie: Amazon.co.uk: Paul Beard: Books

 

The Barbanell Report: Transmitted to Marie Cherrie: Amazon.co.uk: Paul Beard: Books

i read this book some years ago . The author Maurice barbanell was editor of the psychic news newspaper . He had a pact with a Friend that whoever died first would contact the other and share their experience . I recal Reading that once he had contacted him and passed on information , he was receiving info from former deceased relatives from an even higher realm and he eventually faded as he prepared to move on himself . sounds very much like leaving 4D for 5D to me . maybe i need to re read it

[metacomet]

Originally Posted by sodi

So a non prepared soul can be tortured in the 4th dimension ?

Yes, and this is the equivalent of 'hell' or what is termed as 'hell' in the afterlife.

It is not so much that a person 'goes to hell' but that they are spiritually unprepared for death and are easily pulled down into lower vibrations - i.e. scary experiences and hellish environments.

The only way to 'save' yourself from 'hell' is to be spiritually strong and aware of what will come at death!

To prove that an unaware person is sometimes tortured in the 4th dimension we need only look at nightmares.

[1977]

Originally Posted by metacomet

Yes, and this is the equivalent of 'hell' or what is termed as 'hell' in the afterlife.

It is not so much that a person 'goes to hell' but that they are spiritually unprepared for death and are easily pulled down into lower vibrations - i.e. scary experiences and hellish environments.

The only way to 'save' yourself from 'hell' is to be spiritually strong and aware of what will come at death!

Indeed, and Plotinus made the same assertion—

We are become dwellers in the Place of Unlikeness, where, fallen from all our resemblance to the Divine, we lie in gloom and mud: for if the Soul abandons itself unreservedly to the extreme of viciousness, it is no longer a vicious Soul merely, for mere vice is still human, still carries some trace of good: it has taken to itself another nature, the Evil, and as far as Soul can die it is dead. And the death of Soul is twofold: while still sunk in body to lie down in Matter and drench itself with it; when it has left the body, to lie in the other world until, somehow, it stirs again and lifts its sight from the mud: and this is our "going down to Hades and slumbering there."

[steevo]

Originally Posted by metacomet

Yes, and this is the equivalent of 'hell' or what is termed as 'hell' in the afterlife.

It is not so much that a person 'goes to hell' but that they are spiritually unprepared for death and are easily pulled down into lower vibrations - i.e. scary experiences and hellish environments.

The only way to 'save' yourself from 'hell' is to be spiritually strong and aware of what will come at death!

To prove that an unaware person is sometimes tortured in the 4th dimension we need only look at nightmares.

Are you saying that the afterlife is the 4th dimension ? And if it is, then are you saying that we will still be capable of fear in that dimension ?

[sphere555]

Good post, OP.

Here's another kicker:

A human being is comprised of body, personality, and soul/spirit. When someone dies, their body & personality go to the grave. Meanwhile, the person's true being -- the soul/spirit goes to the light at the end of the tunnel to experience another physical reincarnation.

So, when people see ghosts, or contact the "spirits" of their deceased ancestors, they're not actually communicating with their souls/spirits, for that person's true being is already reincarnated and living another physical life. Who they're actually seeing and talking to are the decaying personalities of the deceased.

The personality may take up to 1,000 years to decay, and appears as a ghostly "spirit" hovering near the grave, or in some occasions may venture away from the grave, but not too far.

[biblegirl]

Originally Posted by sphere555

Good post, OP.

Here's another kicker:

A human being is comprised of body, personality, and soul/spirit. When someone dies, their body & personality go to the grave. Meanwhile, the person's true being -- the soul/spirit goes to the light at the end of the tunnel to experience another physical reincarnation.

So, when people see ghosts, or contact the "spirits" of their deceased ancestors, they're not actually communicating with their souls/spirits, for that person's true being is already reincarnated and living another physical life. Who they're actually seeing and talking to are the decaying personalities of the deceased.

The personality may take up to 1,000 years to decay, and appears as a ghostly "spirit" hovering near the grave, or in some occasions may venture away from the grave, but not too far.

very interesting post!

[biblegirl]

Originally Posted by metacomet

The spirit body exits the physical container in this reality by raising it's vibration beyond the physical and assumes form in the 4th dimension, where it's thoughts, emotions, and deep seeded fears assume actual form and shape. This materialization of thought is used against the dreamer in his daze, as he does not realize that his dreams are actual events in 'the astral' or 4th dimension.
...
The act of dreaming is the act of reconnecting with the 4th dimensional 'higher self' of a human being (which is also contained by 5th-7th(?) or perhaps infinite higher selves, which is a topic I will hold for now). This aspect of ourself creates objects, places, people, and even realities with thought alone. This is called 'dreaming' if the person is unaware.

this brings a whole new meaning to horror movies for me...i use to get really bad nightmares all the time after watching scary movies, and i was just thinking what if that is part of the conspiracy, to insert these bad images into our minds for us to co-create the actual monsters in the dream world