Secrets in the alphabet - please watch

[nioz]

spam

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Those look very like crop circle designs. I wonder if it could be used to decipher them.
Very interesting.

[neutrino]

I'm not sure what the hell I'm supposed to be looking at. Any symbol even one made up on the spot will make nice swirly patterns like that when you spin them. Have you been on the wacky bachy?

[edelweiss pirate]

Good thread.

Every individual letter has it's own innate meaning.....

It's very deep stuff.

I, Isolate, Independent, Itterate, It.

So 'I' innately means ONE ALONE.

A, Article, Announce, Arrive, Accept.
So A innately means relating to an abstract concept.

F, Fail, False, Fraud, Falsify, Foul.

So the F identity relates to a negativity.

G, Goal, Gain, Glory, Get.

ETC.

The English alphabet is rather different from it's Semitic origins, so the original meaning of the letters has changed. For example, the B pictogram meant HOUSE and so House is Beet in Arabic.


This relates to the origins of ALL alphabets as PICTOGRAMS when the original letter was an idea in itself.


This thread should be stickied. It is a huge idea that words and letters create meaning, rather than we the users of them.

We are victims of our language..... It dictates out thoughts. Can someone develop this please because it is essential to understanding our world.

Under Stand. To stand under (foundations of a building).
Re Member, to become whole after being divided, like the Horus myth,
Sun. Son.
Good. God.


There are many many more.

The English language is an initiate's code.

[yozhik]

Wow.

Fantastic, Fruit, Full, Festive, Father, Fabulous, Fantasy and Fertile are all negative?

Who would have guessed ...

[neutrino]

Originally Posted by yozhik

Wow.

Fantastic, Fruit, Full, Festive, Father, Fabulous, Fantasy and Fertile are all negative?

Who would have guessed ...

Welp, you learn something new every day don't you. I'm glad edelweiss pirate thought all this through before posting.

[biblegirl]

what happened to the op???

[tien an]

Interesting thread.

It's certainly true for (most) Chinese pictograms or characters.

Take the characters of my avatar, for example (just had a PM conversation with neutrino about this)...

If you've noticed the NASA threads on this forum, you may recognise the chevron or 'pyramid' shape in the first character...
In my personal interpretation, I take this to mean 'space' as in 'that which is above'.
The two horizontal lines (fact, not interpretation) are a typical Chinese way of saying 'this bit here' (between the lines).
This first symbol means 'heaven'. (Heavenly in conjunction with the next character).

The next character has two distinct parts.
The bottom part is the character for 'woman'.
The top part is a cooking-pot lid.
The character means 'peace'.
Peace = 'woman with a lid on'?

(Oh....I can hear the thunder of many female feet coming in my direction to brand me a mysoginist....sorry!!)

However, this goes a little further....

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The above character (forgive my sloppy image...it took me a few seconds in 'Paint') has two parts.
The part on the left means 'woman'.
The part on the right means 'child'.
The meaning of the character is 'good'.
Woman + child = good.

Lovely language eh?

BTW...you can really put your foot in it with Chinese...
The words 'mother', 'horse', 'hemp', and the syllable at the end of a sentence which equates to our '?'.......are all 'MA'...with slight tonal differences (accents) almost indistinguishable to Western ears.

Yes; I've managed to refer to my mother-in-law as a 'horse'...more than once!

Have fun!

tian an.

[johntitor]

Fiction not fact.. This post is simply 'Mystery Meat'.. Most of the world today consists of it ! Nice try..

Practicaly this is just art.. .. .Geometric shapes, Yes your onto something but people have already made the connections here your initial post was looking for !

Answers are already out there in connection with what you tapped into here..

Your in the infancy stage at the moment, dont worry you will mature soon enough.

[loopy2222]

What are we supposed to be looking at???

[edelweiss pirate]

Originally Posted by yozhik

Wow.

Fantastic, Fruit, Full, Festive, Father, Fabulous, Fantasy and Fertile are all negative?

Who would have guessed ...

I knew someone would do that.

Do you deny that letters were pictograms?

Roman F

The origin of F is the Semitic letter vâv that represented the sound /v/, and originally probably represented either a "hook" or a "club". It may have been based on a comparable Egyptian hieroglyph, such as that for "mace":

If F is a club or mace then the negative aspect remains.

Maybe you should research the origins of the word father and festive, rather than shitting on people's good ideas? or is that all you can do?


You can't argue with facts. I'm merely pointing out an odd string of coincidence with the letters of the alphabet.....

You find that words beginning with the same letter share similar concepts.

But anyway, thanks for shitting on me. I've never read an original thought in your posts ever so you prolly just here to piss off proper researchers.

[edelweiss pirate]

Originally Posted by neutrino

Welp, you learn something new every day don't you. I'm glad edelweiss pirate thought all this through before posting.

Another nobody with nothing to say.

[edelweiss pirate]

fuck, fart, fornicate, fallow, fail, fight, fear, fright, false, falsify, feeble, fallacy...

There are few other letters of the alphabet that contain as much negativity.

It relates to the original pictogram of the F as a dangerous weapon or club.

Fear, fright...

I studied Japanese Kanji letters so for me it's common sense.

It works just the same.

[edelweiss pirate]

The word 'Fight' and the letter F is based on an Egyptian heiroglyph meaning CLUB or MACE.

Pretty conclusive to me. This isn't news to etymologists, it might be news to the unlearned mass of trolls however....

The other words (festive, father, fertile etc) may be later additions from other languages TRANSLITERATED. Or they may be exceptions to the rule.

It happens as languages develop and become less pure and more hybridised.

[edelweiss pirate]

http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/alphabet.html

The Origin of the Alphabet


The original alphabet was developed by a Semitic people living in or near Egypt.* They based it on the idea developed by the Egyptians, but used their own specific symbols. It was quickly adopted by their neighbors and relatives to the east and north, the Canaanites, the Hebrews, and the Phoenicians. The Phoenicians spread their alphabet to other people of the Near East and Asia Minor, as well as to the Arabs, the Greeks, and the Etruscans, and as far west as present day Spain. The letters and names on the left are the ones used by the Phoenicians. The letters on the right are possible earlier versions. If you don't recognize the letters, keep in mind that they have since been reversed (since the Phoenicians wrote from right to left) and often turned on their sides!

'aleph, the ox, began as the image of an ox's head. It represents a glottal stop before a vowel. The Greeks, needing vowel symbols, used it for alpha (A). The Romans used it as A.

Beth, the house, may have derived from a more rectangular Egyptian alphabetic glyph of a reed shelter (but which stood for the sound h). The Greeks called it beta (B), and it was passed on to the Romans as B.

Gimel, the camel, may have originally been the image of a boomerang-like throwing stick. The Greeks called it gamma (Γ). The Etruscans -- who had no g sound -- used it for the k sound, and passed it on to the Romans as C. They in turn added a short bar to it to make it do double duty as G.

Daleth, the door, may have originally been a fish! The Greeks turned it into delta (Δ), and passed it on to the Romans as D.

He may have meant window, but originally represented a man, facing us with raised arms, calling out or praying. The Greeks used it for the vowel epsilon (E, "simple E"). The Romans used it as E.

Waw, the hook, may originally have represented a mace. The Greeks used one version of waw which looked like our F, which they called digamma, for the number 6. This was used by the Etruscans for v, and they passed it on to the Romans as F. The Greeks had a second version -- upsilon (Υ)-- which they moved to to the back of their alphabet. The Romans used a version of upsilon for V, which later would be written U as well, then adopted the Greek form as Y. In 7th century England, the W -- "double-u" -- was created.

Zayin may have meant sword or some other kind of weapon. The Greeks used it for zeta (Z). The Romans only adopted it later as Z, and put it at the end of their alphabet.

H.eth, the fence, was a "deep throat" (pharyngeal) consonant. The Greeks used it for the vowel eta (H), but the Romans used it for H.

Teth may have originally represented a spindle. The Greeks used it for theta (Θ), but the Romans, who did not have the th sound, dropped it.

Yodh, the hand, began as a representation of the entire arm. The Greeks used a highly simplified version of it for iota (Ι). The Romans used it as I, and later added a variation for J.

Kaph, the hollow or palm of the hand, was adopted by the Greeks for kappa (K) and passed it on to the Romans as K.

Lamedh began as a picture of an ox stick or goad. The Greeks used it for lambda (Λ). The Romans turned it into L.

Mem, the water, became the Greek mu (M). The Romans kept it as M.

Nun, the fish, was originally a snake or eel. The Greeks used it for nu (N), and the Romans for N.

Samekh, which also meant fish, is of uncertain origin. It may have originally represented a tent peg or some kind of support. It bears a strong resemblance to the Egyptian djed pillar seen in many sacred carvings. The Greeks used it for xi (Ξ) and a simplified variation of it for chi (X). The Romans kept only the variation as X.

'ayin, the eye, was another "deep throat" consonant. The Greeks used it for omicron (O, "little O"). They developed a variation of it for omega (Ω, "big O"), and put it at the end of their alphabet. The Romans kept the original for O.

Pe, the mouth, may have originally been a symbol for a corner. The Greeks used it for pi (Π). The Romans closed up one side and turned it into P.

Sade, a sound between s and sh, is of uncertain origin. It may have originally been a symbol for a plant, but later looks more like a fish hook. The Greeks did not use it, although an odd variation does show up as sampi (Ϡ), a symbol for 900. The Etruscans used it in the shape of an M for their sh sound, but the Romans had no need for it.

Qoph, the monkey, may have originally represented a knot. It was used for a sound similar to k but further back in the mouth. The Greeks only used it for the number 90 (Ϙ), but the Etruscans and Romans kept it for Q.

Resh, the head, was used by the Greeks for rho (P). The Romans added a line to differentiate it from their P and made it R.

Shin, the tooth, may have originally represented a bow. Although it was first pronounced sh, the Greeks used it sideways for sigma (Σ). The Romans rounded it to make S.

Taw, the mark, was used by the Greeks for tau (T). The Romans used it for T.


The Greek letter phi (Φ) was already common among the Anatolians in what is now Turkey. Psi (Ψ) appears to have been invented by the Greeks themselves, perhaps based on Poseidon's trident. For comparison, here is the complete Greek alphabet:



* Until recently, it was believed that these people lived in the Sinai desert and began using their alphabet in the 1700's bc. In 1998, archeologist John Darnell discovered rock carvings in southern Egypt's "Valley of Horrors" that push back the origin of the alphabet to the 1900's bc or even earlier. Details suggest that the inventors were Semitic people working in Egypt, who thereafter passed the idea on to their relatives further east.

[edelweiss pirate]

F representing a snake, nail or hook:

What could be a more negative archetype than the snake? Ask the ancient egyptians! Their force of evil was represented by a snake.

Pretty conclusive I reckon!

The Letter F

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In its earliest years, the letter that evolved into our F was an Egyptian hieroglyph that literally was a picture of a snake. This was around 3,000 B.C. Through the process of simplification over many years, the F began to lose its snakelike character, and by the time it emerged as an Egyptian hieratic form it wasn’t much more than a vertical stroke capped by a small crossbar. With a slight stretch of the imagination, it could be said to look like a nail.

This may be why the Phoenicians called the letter “waw,” a word meaning nail or hook, when they adapted the symbol for their alphabet. In its job as a waw, the character represented a semi-consonant sound, roughly pronounced as the W in the word “know.” However, at various times the waw also represented the ‘v’ and sometimes even the ‘u’ sound.

When the Greeks assimilated the Phoenician alphabet, they handled the confusing waw with typically Greek logic: they split it into two characters. One represented the semi-consonant W and the other became the forerunner of our V. (The ‘w’ sound became the Greek digamma, or double gamma, and was constructed by placing one gamma on top of another.)

While the character was eventually dropped from the Greek alphabet, it was able to find work in the Etruscan language. Here it did yeoman’s service until the Romans adopted it as a symbol for the softened ‘v’ or double ‘v’ sound. Even today, the German language (an important source for English) uses the V as an F in words like “vater,” which means father and is pronounced “fahter.”

Finally, the F found a permanent home as the very geometric sixth letter of the Roman alphabet.

[biblegirl]

Originally Posted by loopy2222

What are we supposed to be looking at???

lol i know! all i see on the first post is the word "spam". that's it. nothing else!! i wish i could see! maybe if i just believe hard enough.....

[edelweiss pirate]

So we have the letter F which represented the serpent.

And it is also the 6th letter of the alphabet.

666?

6 represents imperfection or evil.

6 - THE NUMBER OF MAN: Man was created on the 6th day. Man labors 6 days only. The Serpent was created on the 6th day. The 6th commandment is "Thou shalt not murder." Six words are used for man: Adam, ish, Enosh, gehver, anthropos, anar. Also, 6 x 6 = 36. 36 + 35 + 34 + 33 + 32 . . . 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 666. 666 is the number of the antichrist. This means that the name of the antichrist in Greek adds up to 666.


A 'hex' is a curse.

Hex is Latin term meaning 6.

hex (v.) Look up hex at Dictionary.com
1830, from Pennsylvania Ger. hexe "to practice witchcraft," from Ger. hexen "to hex," related to Hexe "witch," from M.H.G. hecse, hexse, from O.H.G. hagazussa (see hag). Noun meaning "magic spell" is first recorded 1909.

COINCIDENCE?


No, clearly this relates to the ancient Enűma Elish, the Babylonian epic of creation,which states that MAN was created from the body of TIAMAT, the defeated force of evil at war with Marduk

Lindemans
In Babylonian myths, Tiamat is a huge, bloated female dragon that personifies the saltwater ocean, the water of Chaos. She is also the primordial mother of all that exists, including the gods themselves. Her consort is Apsu, the personification of the freshwater abyss that lies beneath the Earth. From their union, saltwater with freshwater, the first pair of gods were born. They are Lachmu and Lachamu, parents of Ansar and Kisar, grandparents of Anu and Ea.

In the creation epic Enuma elish, written around 2000 BCE, their descendants started to irritate Tiamat and Apsu so they decided to kill their offspring. Ea discovered their plans and he managed to kill Apsu while the latter was asleep. Tiamat flew into a rage when she learned about Apsu's death and wanted to avenge her husband. She created an army of monstrous creatures, which was to be led by her new consort Kingu, who is also her son. Eventually, Tiamat was defeated by the young god Marduk, who was born in the deep freshwater sea.

Marduk cleaved her body in half, and from the upper half he created the sky and from the lower half he made the earth. From her water came forth the clouds and her tears became the source of the Tigris and the Euphratus. Kingu also perished, and from his blood Marduk created the first humans.

Coincidentally Tiamat is commonly described as a serpent or dragon!

NUMBER 6!

Rakefet Dictionary Download this dictionary
Tiamat
Tiamat (Chaldean) Chaldean serpent, slain by Bel, the chief deity. The tale is repeated in the later Babylonian account, with the exception that Marduk or Merodach (producer of the world) replaces Bel. The mythologic serpent, described as the imbodiment of evil both physical and moral, was enormous (300 miles long), it moved in undulations 6 miles in height. When Marduk finally slew Tiamat he split the monster into two halves, using one as a covering of the heavens, so that the upper waters would not come down. Tiamat is cognate with the Babylonian tiamtu, tamtu, "the ocean," rendered Thalatth by Berosus in his Chaldean cosmogony. There is here likewise the reference to the waters of wisdom, the divine wisdom and the lower wisdom of manifestation.
Blavatsky explains that the serpent Tiamat is the great mother, "the living principle of chaos" (TG 334). "The struggle of Bel and then of Merodach, the Sun-god, with Tiamat, the Sea and its Dragon, a 'war' which ended in the defeat of the latter, has a purely cosmic and geological meaning, as well as an historical one. It is a page torn out of the History of the Secret and Sacred Sciences, their evolution, growth and death -- for the profane masses. It relates (a) to the systematic and gradual drying up of immense territories by the fierce Sun at a certain pre-historic period; one of the terrible droughts which ended by a gradual transformation of once fertile lands abundantly watered into the sandy deserts which they are now; and (b) to the as systematic persecution of the Prophets of the Right Path by those of the Left" (SD 2:503). See also TAMTI

[edelweiss pirate]

The FALL of man is a word which contains the agent of the 'fall' the SNAKE or Serpent, within itself.

See how this works.... How far down the rabbit hole are you prepared to look?

[loopy2222]

Originally Posted by biblegirl

lol i know! all i see on the first post is the word "spam". that's it. nothing else!! i wish i could see! maybe if i just believe hard enough.....

Its lost me! I want to be interested in it but I have no idea what anyone is on about cos of the 'spam' bit