People - Page 4

justin_pushka · 04-11-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by marpat

How is that? you try and claim that a circular system is somehow the way to go and just because I see a possible flaw in it you get all moral. A circle is nothing but a cone seen from above and a cone from the side might resemble a pyramid.

Temple of Set, what is that? is that some sort of childish jibe, a pathetic stab because I stated a possible flaw in your idea? perhaps yuo ned to grow up and accept that other people have ideas that may not always conform to what YOU think it is right.

The only flaw is in your understanding morals dont come into it. A circle seen from above is a sphere not a cone, wherever you are in that system no point is greater or smaller so it has no "power imbalence point" like a cone or pyramid it just is power in itself.

Temple of set a childish jibe? Perhaps yes out of sheer frustration at your one dimentional vision and possibly to see a satanist dance to a knee jerk reaction for once! The fact you fell for it says not a setian

. I accept others have ideas and you are free to have what ever ideas you wish. dont be to erked when others with a different perspective can see the futility of them in the long run tho.

Have a fantastic journey and enjoy the pyramid collapse.

walter20 · 06-11-2009, 11:03 AM

I like this:

"I wonder what people like Icke would hope to achieve by a collapse. What do they think will follow?"

Do they really think showing "Love" to others will become the "Light" to which everyone will suddenly realise they have been sheltered from and this will be the driving force to change the error of our ways.

I feel the damage has already been done. I still pose the question to anyone willing to have ago at it, Could you design a better system?. In this new system could we control the power of human instincts to survive by the love and forgiveness of others?

I have to admit, I don't have much respect for humans, we are so arrogant. In my personal opinion, humans are finished. One just needs to look at the mess the world is in, and not because of the media blowing situations up and making them more scarier then they are or the governments seemingly constant wrong decisions (or lies) ect... But just by looking at the people around you, the work place, family, friends, about 90% of these people are just full of bullshit, everyone is for themselves, with only about 10% of those people actually knowing, what makes you happy, sad, angry, or just who you really are and being true to you. The system forces nearly everyone (from the working class, Bin men ect.. to the Middle class, Teachers, Doctors ect..) to form a fake image of one self and if you "Perform" well enough then you shall have that promotion. So when we meet people we are not actually meeting them, we are meeting a character. Why??

Shakespeare " all the worlds a stage".

(Sorry for the rant, needed to get that out!!)

hey_jude · 06-11-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walter20

I like this:

"I wonder what people like Icke would hope to achieve by a collapse. What do they think will follow?"

Do they really think showing "Love" to others will become the "Light" to witch everyone will suddenly realise they have been sheltered from and this will be the driving force to change the error of our ways.

I feel the damage has already been done. I still pose the question to anyone willing to have ago at it, Could you design a better system?. In this new system could we control the power of human instincts to survive by the love and forgiveness of others?

I have to admit, I don't have much respect for humans, we are so arrogant. In my personal opinion, humans are finished. One just needs to look at the mess the world is in, and not because of the media blowing situations up and making them more scarier then they are or the governments seemingly constant wrong decisions (or lies) ect... But just by looking at the people around you, the work place, family, friends, about 90% of these people are just full of bullshit, everyone is for themselves, with only about 10% of those people actually knowing, what makes you happy, sad, angry, or just who you really are and being true to you. The system forces nearly everyone (from the working class, Bin men ect.. to the Middle class, Teachers, Doctors ect..) to form a fake image of one self and if you "Perform" well enough then you shall have that promotion. So when we meet people we are not actually meeting them, we are meeting a character. Why??

Shakespeare " all the worlds a stage".

(Sorry for the rant, needed to get that out!!)

Couldn't agree more ...the EGO just has to GO! Without an ego to feed we wouldn't need a SYSTEM at all.

sensitivesoul · 07-11-2009, 02:33 AM

Good point, think it is a good idea to always look at the consequences of things. It's good that David is seeing how horrible our governments can be run. Though a collapse could cause people to lose jobs, homes, some people wouldn't even be able to feed themselves. People are starving even now without a total collapse so things could only get worse... Though it also brings to mind what is the next step, what can we do to help eachother see past our shalow, cold daily lives and what can we do to stop it... I think that if things were to shift and we were to awaken there would be large groups of us and we'de be seperated from with rest who aren't ready yet, which could cause even more problems... There are alot of questions that need answering and I wish I had the answers to them... It's quite frustrating!

1964 · 07-11-2009, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by walter20

Do you think people (meaning the average people in society, with a lower then average level of intellect) are ready for the awakening? I am NOT against the awakening at all, but I cant help but think about what would happen if the controlled society we live in collapses. David has stated that he would like to see the system collapse (as would many others), but the consequences of that system collapse should be thought of in detail. Of course, no answer could be accurate, but surly its worth discussing???

It's to a point where people worship intelligence. But yet who has given us the tools with which to destroy this world, and ourselves? All the geniuses of the world, that's who. Now, thanks to all the really smart people, the planet is being destroyed; and we have the means to completely annihilate ourselves off the face of the earth.

Intelligence is merely something one man teaches another. And it hasn't served this world well at all, nor the people of this world. Wisdom, on the other hand, can only come from God. And this is what mankind is lacking to help himself, because he no longer values wisdom. Instead, he worships his own intellect.

I don't think it's people with a "lower than average level of intellect" (as you put it) who are in the worst trouble. I think it's the people who value their own intelligence so highly who are headed for the worst surprise, and the scariest wake-up call.

IMO.

walter20 · 08-11-2009, 08:33 PM

Yip I totally agree with that 1964. I think a lot of humans seem to think we are a more intelligent race then we actually are. Most people need the system to survive, some people are just getting to grips with a microwave, never mind traditional survival techniques (Without electricity!!!!) A.K.A 'the wisdom to survive'.

I think we need to go back to basics and re-learn how to hunt, build our own shelter/homes and take care of one another. I feel if the system did crash or get worse (more controlling) and you wanted out, those are the people that would be ok.

06-11-2009, 11:03 AM	#62
walter20 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 18	I like this: "I wonder what people like Icke would hope to achieve by a collapse. What do they think will follow?" Do they really think showing "Love" to others will become the "Light" to which everyone will suddenly realise they have been sheltered from and this will be the driving force to change the error of our ways. I feel the damage has already been done. I still pose the question to anyone willing to have ago at it, Could you design a better system?. In this new system could we control the power of human instincts to survive by the love and forgiveness of others? I have to admit, I don't have much respect for humans, we are so arrogant. In my personal opinion, humans are finished. One just needs to look at the mess the world is in, and not because of the media blowing situations up and making them more scarier then they are or the governments seemingly constant wrong decisions (or lies) ect... But just by looking at the people around you, the work place, family, friends, about 90% of these people are just full of bullshit, everyone is for themselves, with only about 10% of those people actually knowing, what makes you happy, sad, angry, or just who you really are and being true to you. The system forces nearly everyone (from the working class, Bin men ect.. to the Middle class, Teachers, Doctors ect..) to form a fake image of one self and if you "Perform" well enough then you shall have that promotion. So when we meet people we are not actually meeting them, we are meeting a character. Why?? Shakespeare " all the worlds a stage". (Sorry for the rant, needed to get that out!!) Last edited by walter20; 06-11-2009 at 04:12 PM.

07-11-2009, 02:33 AM	#64
sensitivesoul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: .... Posts: 174	awakening Good point, think it is a good idea to always look at the consequences of things. It's good that David is seeing how horrible our governments can be run. Though a collapse could cause people to lose jobs, homes, some people wouldn't even be able to feed themselves. People are starving even now without a total collapse so things could only get worse... Though it also brings to mind what is the next step, what can we do to help eachother see past our shalow, cold daily lives and what can we do to stop it... I think that if things were to shift and we were to awaken there would be large groups of us and we'de be seperated from with rest who aren't ready yet, which could cause even more problems... There are alot of questions that need answering and I wish I had the answers to them... It's quite frustrating! __________________ Long live the souls of Elia Favaro and Eric Wallace. I will love you always Nonno and papa, and I will miss you only temperarily; till I see you again.. You better be happy, don't make me come over there! <3. I will love you forever, Like you for always, As long as I'm living, My Papa you'll be.

08-11-2009, 08:33 PM	#66
walter20 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 18	Yip I totally agree with that 1964. I think a lot of humans seem to think we are a more intelligent race then we actually are. Most people need the system to survive, some people are just getting to grips with a microwave, never mind traditional survival techniques (Without electricity!!!!) A.K.A 'the wisdom to survive'. I think we need to go back to basics and re-learn how to hunt, build our own shelter/homes and take care of one another. I feel if the system did crash or get worse (more controlling) and you wanted out, those are the people that would be ok.