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Old 20-10-2010, 03:54 PM   #501
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The duality of the serpent as a source of both good and evil is seen in Egyptian religion probably due to certain singular historical events. In the Old and Middle Kingdoms, it is benevolent and associated with the gods and immortality.




Later, starting with the New Kingdom, in particular the 18th Dynasty, it becomes a sinister creature and an object to be hated and exorcised.

[Comment: If we assume as a given that the historical revisionism of Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky is fact, then the Middle Kingdom ended around 1600 BCE as a direct result of the cataclysms which also spawned the Exodus and the Thera/Santorini Explosion, i.e., the arrival of the Planet Nibiru into this vicinity. Thus began a "Millennium of the Gods," which lasted until about the year 700 BCE, which is about the time of the advent of the New Kingdom’s famed 19th Dynasty, that of Seti the Great and Ramses the Great. If Nibiru’s departure caused additional cataclysms at that point in time, coincidentally with the genocidal campaign of Sargon of Assyria, it is easy to see how the rulers of the late Egyptian 18th Dynasty and early 19th Dynasty would cease to view the "Saurian Gods" as benevolent and start to condemn them as sinister.]

On the walls of the tombs of the earlier dynasties, the snake is depicted as a friendly creature which bears the king on his back into the stellar sky. It is symbolic of the king’s being carried by the serpent-god to the land of immortality, to the land of the gods.

At about this time, the snake was adopted as a symbol of kingship or godship and began to appear as the "uraeus," the divine asp on the headdress of the pharaoh.

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(The Uraeus (plural Uraei or Uraeuses, from the Greek οὐραῖος, from Egyptian jʿr.t (iaret) "rearing cobra") is the stylized, upright form of an Egyptian spitting cobra (asp, serpent, or snake), used as a symbol of sovereignty, royalty, deity, and divine authority in ancient Egypt.)

But in the New Kingdom after the first kings of the 18th Dynasty had rid the country of the hated Hyksos, the serpent takes on an evil character. It becomes an evil object to be exorcised at rituals. Called Apep or Apop (Greek Apophis), it is the manifestation of the foreign barbaric Hyksos who had invaded and occupied Egypt for hundreds of years.

[Comment: According to Dr. Velikovsky, the Hyksos invaded Egypt at the same moment in time that the Israelites fled, i.e., around 1600 BCE. They ruled a conquered Egypt until about 1000 BCE when King Thutmose I of the 18th Dynasty expelled them forever and established the New Kingdom.]

Apop was the original Hyksos ruler and with his descendants ruled from the 14th through the 17th Dynasty. Many of the rulers adopted the name Apop and in particular the last Hyksos king to be defeated by Ahmose and Kamose, the founders of the 18th Dynasty.

Apop possessed many epithets and in ceremonies meant to destroy him was cursed by a number of names. The ritual is reminiscent of the "yajna" ceremony of the ancient Hindus who called out the various names of the snakes as they were thrown into the fire. The Egyptian hate was deeply rooted in the memory of the cruel rule of the Hyksos kings who systematically destroyed Egyptian culture and monuments. We shall see that these hated people were none other than the descendants of the Rephaim, the offspring of the antediluvian Nefilim, who ruled the lands of the Middle East after the Deluge.

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The Tribe of Dan also used the symbols of the serpent and the eagle Genesis says that the Danites did not have a known genealogy and were not related to the early Israelites.


They were a sea-faring people (the Danuna or Denyen to the Egyptians) and many settled in northern Europe. The names of Denmark (Danmark), the River Danube and Ireland's Tuatha de Danann or "People of the Goddess Danu", would seem to be expressions of the Danites and this is one reason why there is such a North African influence in Irish history. The Egypt-Sumer-connected Phoenicians made the same sea journeys as the Danites and they were almost certainly the same people.



The Danite colors were red and white, just like the Phoenicians, and these are the colours of the Knights Templar that has its famous red cross on the white background displayed as the flag of England or the Flag of St George. This is a Phoenician deity called George of Cappadocia in what is now Turkey, the same country as Troy.



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Old 20-10-2010, 10:10 PM   #502
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These Semitic looking figure heads are were found in Mexico and are usually attributed to the Olmec culture that pre-dated the Aztecs. Note their beards, absent in natives of that land, and the floppy hat which is typical of Phoenician sailors.



The Phoenicians were also called Hyas or Hehaya (Horse Warriors). The Hopis still preserve this name in their myth of emergence. On the bottom of the coin, you'll see a map of the world, with the Mediterranean at the center of the Phoenician world.



This detail of a gold coin shows what McMenamin believes is a map of the Mediterranean area, surrounded by Europe, Britain, Africa, and (at left) the Americas. The image appears on coins minted in Carthage between 350 and 320 BC.




The Phoenicians themselves claimed to have been civilized since about 30,000 BC.

In 1904, Jogendra Mohon Gupta, wrote an essay in which he thoroughly described his hypothesis that the Phoenicians were the fathers of all world civilizations:

The Phoenicians held their own civilization to be the most ancient and declared it to be thirty thousand years old. There is however no doubt that they were one of the first civilized nations of the world, if not the first, and that Phoenicia was not their first home. Instead of tracing them to their first settlements on the coasts of Arabia or Persia or in Afghanistan the historians of Europe have located them at once in Phoenicia, and hence the mistake that points to the origin of all civilization in Egypt. I would not discuss here the question whether Afghanistan was the first home of the Phoenicians or not. But I would affirm that the Panis or Panih of the Rig Veda were the same people as the ancient Phoenicians of Afghanistan.





http://www.raceandhistory.com/histor...entamerica.htm

http://phoenicia.org/america.html

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/offices/com...108/mcman.html

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The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone is a large boulder on the side of Hidden Mountain, near Los Lunas, New Mexico, about 35 miles south of Albuquerque, that bears a very regular inscription carved into a flat panel. The stone is also known as the Los Lunas Mystery Stone or Commandment Rock. The inscription is interpreted to be an abridged version of the Decalogue or Ten Commandments in a form of Paleo-Hebrew. A letter group resembling the tetragrammaton YHWH, or "Yahweh," makes four appearances. The stone is controversial in that some claim the inscription is Pre-Columbian, and therefore proof of early Semitic contact with the Americas.


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Many point to this as proof of cultural diffusion by Phoenicians, who came to North America for mining and trade.

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Archaeolinguist Cyrus Gordon once proposed that the Los Lunas Decalogue is in fact a Samaritan mezuzah, though this is hotly contested.

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A metal mezuzah case.

Because of the stone's weight of over 80 tons, it was never moved to a museum or laboratory for study and safekeeping. Many visitors have cleaned the stone inscriptions over the years, likely destroying any possibility for scientific analysis of the inscriptions' patina. Nevertheless, comparing it to a modern inscription nearby, geologist G. E. Morehouse, a colleague of Barry Fell, estimated that the inscription could be between 500 and 2000 years old.


When a site has been continuously inhabited for thousands of years, it can be very difficult to find traces of its earliest inhabitants. For this reason it is not certain exactly when the first humans came to dwell in the land that is now Lebanon, that we will refer to as Canaan for the time being – a territory including today's Lebanon and Palestine. The earliest known installation is located in Byblos and dates from the end of the Neolithic, in other words 5000 years BC. It lasted at least a millennium before the appearance of copper marked the beginning of the Eneolithic era c. 3800 BC. The inhabitants of Canaan belonged then to a race of men that ethnologists call Mediterranean due to the fact it occupied the islands and shores of that sea. This race would be a basis for the earliest civilisations of the Western part of Asia, but we know nothing of their language.

Around 3200 BC this civilisation disappeared suddenly in the sense that its primitive practices were abruptly and thoroughly replaced by much more elaborate techniques, its hut villages overcome by a full-fledge urban culture. As the period coincides with the entrance of Egypt and Mesopotamia on the scene of history, we can see that the drastic changes were not limited to Canaan, but affected the entire region. Clearly the reason for this general leap in progress was input from the outside, in other words an important migration that brought new technologies to the Middle East. These invaders possessed urban, military and industrial techniques, and above all, copper technology, which means they can only have come from the mining areas of Armenia and the Caucasus. In Byblia Grammata Maurice Dunand, a major authority on Phoenician archaeology, points out that the book of Genesis may contain the memory of these migrations: after the Deluge, the cradle of the renewed populations of the Orient is none other than Mount Ararat in Armenia, and Noah's descendants are said to "found the cities".

Coat of Arms of the First Republic of Armenia


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JUDAS ISCARIOT, from Sekharyût, was of the tribe of Gad or Dan.

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The Phoenician Origin of the Britons

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..................."Jesus knew from the beginning who should betray him" (John 6:64).

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The Phoenicians (Sumerian Empire) had landed in the British Isles by at least 3000BC . This corresponds with the period when, it is claimed, the great stone circles like Stonehenge and Avebury were built with the same astonishing precision that you find with the Giza pyramids and other breathtaking structures across the Sumerian and former Atlantean-Lemurian Empire.

Whoever designed Stonehenge must have had a very advanced knowledge of mathematics and astronomy.



As John A. Keel points out in Our Haunted Planet (1971):

"We are also asked to believe that they pushed and hauled these monstrous stones [for 240 miles] up and down hills, across rivers, through forests and soupy bogs on sledges and wooden rollers ...Plainly the whole thing is quite absurd."

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Brit-annia tutelary of Phoenicians in Ancient Egypt as Bairthy, "The Mother of the Waters" (Nut) or "Naiad."

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Egyptian hieroglyphs for the Goddess Bairthy of the Phoenician sailors.

AMORITE PHOENICIANS IN CORNWALL

Regarding the tradition that "giants" occupied Britain before Brutus, and that "giants" were the builders of the Stone Circle, and megaliths and "giants' tombs," in Britain, Britany, Mauretania, Sardinia, and in other places colonized by the Phoenicians, it is significant that the Mor, Muru, Maruta or "Amorites" of Syria-Phoenicia-Palestine are called "giants" by the Hebrews in their Old Testament. They are, moreover, also called there "the sons of Anak (Beni-anak)." Now "Anak" in Akkadian is a name for "Tin." And Tarshish, which, as Tarz or Tarsus, we have seen was a chief port of the Amorite Phoenicians, and which we know was actually visited and conquered by Sargon I., is thus celebrated in the Old Testament in connection with Tyre of the Phoenicians: "Tarshish was thy merchant by reason of the multitude of all kinds of riches; with silver, iron, TIN, and lead, they traded in thy fairs."

It would thus appear that the Tin which was imported into ancient Palestine, and which entered into the bronze that decorated Solomon's temple, and formed sacred vessels in that sanctuary, was presumably obtained in most part, if not altogether, from the Phoenician Tin-mines of Ancient Britain.

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According to Richard Oram, professor of medieval history at Stirling University, the story of Scota was a legend invented to demonstrate the supposed superiority of Scottish civilisation. “The English insisted their forebears were Trojans and the Scots wanted to go one better and claim they were descendants of the ancient Egyptians,” he says.

Isn't it rather simplistic to say that names with Dan in them are indicative of the Tribe of Dan? If you have any further information or proof on this it would be interesting to see it.

Can you also let us have your source for the allegation that Aten means Lord, the Judge, The God and is cognate with Hebrew Adonai and the connection with Odin.?

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Heh - then there's the scholars (seriously) who claim that the Scotch are descended from the Scythians who called themselves the SCOLOTI. The `Scoloti' believed they were descended from Hercules and a mighty Drakaina (dragon). She stole Hercules prize horses while he was traveling through Scythia. The Drakaina told Hercules she would only give the horses back if he slept with her and gave her children. It took the Drakaina a few years but she got three sons out of ol Hercules. And this was the beginning of the Scythian/Scoloti race.

The Scythians/Scoloti were the `horseman of the steppes'. Along with their cousins, the Sauromatians, (lizard people) they invented scale armor and carried the dragon pennant, in honor of their Drakaina mother. This dragon flag was later adopted by the Romans and the Brits. This evolved into the armored knights of yore and King Arthur's lore - Pendragon. The Scoloti were also rich and had a whole lot of gold, which helped their mystique considerably in Scotland.

I love what scholars and people in general do with history. Always trying to steal someone else's thunder. The Jews also claim to be the true Scythians, something about the `Lost Tribes'. Then there's the Turks, they wanna be Scythians too...Of course the Russians are still living there where the Scythians lived, but who cares what they think...

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Thank you lightgiver for you last couple of posts.

They have confirmed something that I have been researching a long time. I am happy somebody else is making the same conclusions as me unprompted.

it is a small world isnt it you mentioned the panis. This word does indeed mean water also...

btw did you see the "roman" helmet sold recently in britain? doesnt look very roman to me

here and here

anyway

thanks for confirming my point of view

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The symbol of Wales is a dragon which along with the lion, griffon, serpent, and eagle could be considered a symbol of Dan.

The symbol of the Hyksos was a griffin which had the body of a lion and head of an eagle.

In Irish accounts the Tribe of Dana came from Greece and had fought there against the Philistines.

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Nothing in this book was written with the "mysterious" Hyksos peoples in mind, and yet I am finding that they and the Danaans were one. This chapter explains.

It must have been quite "coincidental" that less than a week after realizing the mount-Hermon roots of Herminone Germanics (who worshiped Tiwaz/Zio), I up and decided to see what Barbara Aho had been writing lately (her topics are similar to mine here), as I hadn't checked in a year or two, and behold I found that she was out spreading a message that certain modern Israelites are at this time prepared to spend eight million dollars on a Temple building in a theme/amusement park at mount Hermon. I learned her opinion that mount Sion (i.e. Hermon, not Jerusalem) was the sacred ground of Templars who formed the Priory of Sion...something that was beginning to cross my mind.

She claimed that mount Hermon was longitude 33 degrees when Paris was zero degree, wherefore she asserts that 33 has become sacred to Illuminatists because it was the longitude of Sion. She distinguishes between Sion and Zion of Jerusalem, implying that the Priory of Sion was not Jerusalem based. She believes as I do that Hermon was named after Hermes, evidenced by the fact that Panias is a city at the foot of Hermon and known to be named after Pan, the Greek god.


Banias spring with Pan's cave on background left with temenos and niches center
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n%27s_Cave.JPG

"On the monuments the Egyptians call the Hyksos "Asiatics" and "Barbarians." Manetho calls them "Arabians" and "Phoenicians...Sir Charles Marston in 'The Bible Comes Alive' argues that the Hyksos were a Hebrew people, though not Israelites..."


Historical records show that the Semitic hyksos kings ruled Egypt for over a hundred years. The Egyptian people rebelled against these Semitic kings and pushed them into
northern Egypt. By 1500 BC a peace agreement was reached between the Egyptians and the Semitic hyksos, which allowed the hyksos people to leave Egypt peaceably
and move to Palestine and Jerusalem in the Egyptian controlled land of Canaan. Their migration closely matches the bible story of the Semitic Hebrew exudes from Egypt
into Canaan in 1447 BC.

The dynasty came to an end when Amenemhat IV and was succeeded by his sister/wife Nefrusobek. Queen Nefrusobek ( Queen Sobekneferu) was the last ruler of 11th
Dynasty and daughter of Amenemhat III. Sobekneferu apparently ruled for only some four years, but is known from a number of monuments and artifacts, including five
statues, fragments relating to the mortuary temple of Amenemhat III at Hawara, scarabs, seals and beads, as well as from a Nile inundation record. This latter document from
the Nubian fortress of Kumma relates a poor flood of some 1.83 meters, and dates to Sobekneferu's last year.

The name 'Sobekneferu' means, "The beauties of Sobek", the crocodile god. The rulers of the 12th Dynasty also established a religious and economic center in the Fayoum
where the crocodiles were nurtured and worshipped.She built monuments throughout Egypt and her rule was recognized as far south as Lower Nubia. She also seems to
have carried on as queen or co-regent in the 12 Dynasty and is possibly the mother or adoptive mother of Moses and /or wife of Moses who became the first king or
pharaoh of the 12th Dynasty.


Historically a series of powerful invaders the philistines, the Babylonians and Persians conquered the land of Canaan which the Hebrew people called Israel, the Hebrew
tribes of Manesseh and Dan joined forces and became the Macedonians or Macedanians (Manasseh + Dan = Macedanians) They fled to Greece where they wore white kilts
like the Egyptian pharaohs, played goat skinned bagpipes, adopted the Greek culture and settled along the River Danube which they named after the tribe of Dan.

http://www.phoenician.org/Phoenician...Tyre_-_big.gif


http://www.tribwatch.com/hyksos.htm


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The Mysterious Shar-Dana

The Shardana were a tribe of warrior-farmers -- just like the tribe of Dan! Remember, Dan was prophesied to be a "lion's whelp" -- a warlike tribe.

Say Alastair Service and Jean Bradbery in Megaliths and their Mysteries of the Shardana:

"They were farmers and warriors, and in each of their dominions they developed quite new sorts of monument particular to each island. The designs and structural techniques appear to be rooted in the earlier European megalithic tradition. But their Giants' Tomb, Taula, Navetas, Nuraghi and other forms are an impressive original finale to the long story of megalithic architecture. That story finally ends with the roman conquest of Menorca in 23 B.C." (p. 19).

The "Tower people," or Shardana, or tribe of Dan, conquered Corsica around 1400 B.C., the same time Israel entered the Promised Land under Joshua. Their occupation lasted until 800 B.C., or possibly as late as 500 B.C. (about the same time Assyria took Israel into captivity, 718-721 B.C., or near the time of the Babylonian captivity of Judah in 587 B.C.).



In the book of Judges, we learn another trait of this tribe. In the song of Deborah and Barak, during the time of the Judges, the song asks, "Why did Dan remain in ships?" (Judges 5:17). Or, "Dan abode in ships." The tribe of Dan was a mighty SEA-FARING tribe, which loved to sail the seas.

History tells us more about these ancient Danites. At the same time Moses led the children of Israel out of Egypt, with the kingdom of Egypt left in shambles, some chose not to follow Moses into the land of Canaan. About 1500 B.C., a last flowering of megalithic culture occurred. On the island of Sardinia in the Mediterranean Sea, a tower-building people sometimes called the Shardana emerged, and soon dominated Sardinia and then invaded Corsica and the Balearics, and ruled them for about a thousand years. These were ancient Danites! Their very name identifies them! They gave their name to their island, Sar DINia, and their very name SharDANa, proves who they really were. In Hebrew, the term "sharon" means a level "plain." It comes from the root word yashar, meaning "to make straight or even, right, pleasant, prosperous." The "Shardana" were nothing more than the "prosperous DANites," the tribe of Dan! The term "sar" or "shar" in Hebrew means "chief," "prince," "ruler," from which such words as "Tsar," "Caesar," "Kaiser," etc., derive. The "Shar-Dana," then, were the chiefs or princes of DAN!

http://www.shetlandtaxis.co.uk/asset...ousa-broch.jpg

Ancient towers in the Shetland Isles are the legacy of an ancient, pre Roman civilization.

The Tower People of Shetland

On the Shetland Isles, on the far edge of Europe, a series of monumental stone towers – known as Brochs - once dominated the landscape. Aubrey sets off to discover what sort of community built the Broch towers and for what purpose.

On the island of Mousa, he visits the most complete Broch anywhere in Scotland and discovers its sophisticated architecture. Brochs are in commanding positions on the coast and many are within sight of another, raising the possibility that they were used for defence and communication. But who was the enemy? One idea is Roman slave traders. The real mystery is how these bleak islands could support a population prosperous enough to build the network of more than a hundred Brochs.

Aubrey visits a recently discovered site at Scatness, where a Broch is at the heart of an Iron Age settlement. Here there are finds of animal bone, barley grains, and metalwork which archaeologists from Bradford University are hoping will help to unravel the mystery of the Broch people.

Piecing together evidence from Scatness, from local fishermen, and crofters still growing ancient strains of barley, Aubrey works out how the ancient Shetlanders could have lived and even prospered. He finds evidence of a people who made good use of local resources such as soapstone, iron and copper. Using peat for fuel they seem to have been proficient metal workers. And bronze objects made from copper and tin suggest they were even trading, perhaps with Cornwall, to obtain the tin they needed.

Meanwhile, carbon dating of material from the Scatness Broch revealed a date of 400 BC, much earlier than expected. It rules out the theory that the Brochs were built as defence against the Romans.

It seems the Brochs may instead have been prestigious homes for the elite of society. Aubrey concludes that in the Iron Age, Shetland was home to one of the most sophisticated and successful communities in Western Europe.

Tower People of Shetland 1/3


They used the same principle in the Pyramids...over the burial chambers

http://www.centuries.co.uk/faq-q10.jpg
(Centre) A warrior of the Shardana, one of the mysterious 'Sea Peoples', as depicted on Egyptian reliefs conventionally dated to the 13th and 12th centuries BC. Egyptian references to the Shardana continue until the early 11th century BC. (Right and left) Bronze figurines from Sardinia, usually dated to the 9th-7th centuries BC. While it is tempting to draw some connection between the two groups they are presently separated by over two centuries.


All Along The Watchtower

All along the watchtower, princes kept the view
While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too.

http://www.open2.net/landscapemyster...summaries.html

http://www.centuries.co.uk/index.htm

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...p?p=1058925953

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Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance
Others, mean and rueful of the Western dream
I love the friends I have gathered together on this thin raft
We have constructed pyramids in honour of our escaping
This is the land where the Pharaoh died

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The Negroes in the forest brightly feathered
They are saying, "Forget the night.
Live with us in forests of azure.
Out here on the perimeter there are no stars
Out here we is stoned - immaculate."

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No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn

Universidad Veracruzana (is that a Fleur-de-lis I see )
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Motto "Art, Science, Light"
Established September 11, 1944

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Snake-Bird Gods Fascinated Both Aztecs and Pharaohs

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Great work LG:the world gets smaller layer x layer.
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Great trading centres on the maritime trade routes to Britain and also to the Baltic. The late Roman writer, Avienus, quoted from a sixth century BC nautical log from Marseilles (Massilia) as describing the trade between Tartessos (the Biblical Tarshish) and the peoples of southwestern Britain, Ireland and Brittany.

The tin was mined, beaten into squares and carried to centres such as Ictis ( St. Michael's Mount in Cornwall ) where it was loaded on to ships

Then the tin followed one of two alternative routes between the southwest of Britain and the Eastern Mediterranean. One was by sea via the Atlantic coast of Spain through the Pillars of Hercules past Tarshish across the Mediterranean to it's final destination in Phoenicia.

The other was overland across Brittany to the Greek settlement of Massilia (Marseilles) as described by Diodorus Siculus.

The land route started by sea across the Channel to Morlaix (France). From Morlaix it was carried across France on pack horses to Marseilles where the tin was loaded on to ships for the last stage of the journey to Phoenicia.

By the first century AD the Bristol Channel was a well established trading centre.

Writing circa 445 BC Herotodus speaks of the British Isles as the Tin Isles or Casserides.



Egyptian blue faience beads have been found in Neolithic tombs.

"The collapse of Roman Communications. during the first half of the fifth century was followed by the resumption of the Irish Sea trade routes of the later prehistoric periods. The Irish Sea became a unifying factor between Ireland, South Wales, south-west Britain and Brittany with contacts reaching as far as the East Mediterranean. This is shown particularly by the importation of jars of wine or oil from the Eastern Mediterranean to south-west Britain; sherds of these vessels have already been found at Tintagel, Lundy, Glastonbury Tor, and in South Wales at Dinas Powys. This Trade in luxuries implies the existence of a wealthy and well connected aristocracy.'' The Archaeology of Exmoor'

Three of these sites are acknowledged to have been the citadels of native princes; TINtagel, Glastonbury Tor (1964-5 excavations conducted by Philip Rhatz) and Dinas Powys.



The main Phoenician settlements.

Antioch (1), Cyprus (2), Crete (3), Sicily (4), Cyrenia (5), Massilia (Marseilles) (7), Sardinia (6), Spain (8) and ultimately Southwest Britain (9).



THE AMORITE PHOENICIAN TIN MINES OF CASSITERIDES OR CORNWALL REFERRED TO ABOUT 2750 B.C. BY SARGON I. OF AKKAD, & KAPTARA OR "CAPHTOR" AS ABDARA IN SPAIN.

A CONTEMPORARY reference to the Amorite Phoenician tin mines in Britain appears probably to exist in the historical road-tablet of the great "Akkad" emperor Sargon I., about 2800-2750 B.C., recording the mileage and geography of the roads throughout his vast empire of world-conquest. The existing document is a certified copy in cuneiform script of the original record of Sargon I. It was found at the Assyrian capital of Assur, and was made by an official scribe in the 8th century B.C.

"To the Tin-land (KUGA-KI) (and) Kaptara (Caphtor, Krete), countries beyond the Upper Sea (the Mediterranean)."

AMORITE PHOENICIANS IN CORNWALL

Now "Anak" in Akkadian is a name for "Tin." And Tarshish, which, as Tarz or Tarsus, we have seen was a chief port of the Amorite Phoenicians, and which we know was actually visited and conquered by Sargon I., is thus celebrated in the Old Testament in connection with Tyre of the Phoenicians: "Tarshish was thy merchant by reason of the multitude of all kinds of riches; with silver, iron, TIN, and lead, they traded in thy fairs."

It would thus appear that the Tin which was imported into ancient Palestine, which was presumably obtained in most part, if not altogether, from the Phoenician Tin-mines of Ancient Britain.

Mother of all history conspiracies?

Historians from Oxford say: “hey, everybody knows that Julius Caesar lived in the first century B.C. ‘Julius Caesar’ statement is only a point of view as there is simply no irrefutable documentary proof that Julius Caesar or any other great name of antiquity ever existed. Better than that – extremely rare sources that can be reliably dated back to the 10th or 14th centuries A D, do not show the polished Picture of classical history. They show a Picture both contradictory and confusing. All methods of dating of ancient sources and artefacts are erroneous: Radio-carbon C14 method produces dating with exactitude of plus minus 1500 years, therefore it is too crude for dating of events in historical time frame.

The Almagest tractate, which lies as corner Stone contemporary chronology, compiled in the 2nd century A D by Ptolemy, the founding father of astronomy, contains astronomical data of 9th to 16th century. The Bronze Age, that has supposedly began 5000 years ago. Bronze is made of 90% copper and 10% tin, but the technology for tin extraction dates back to 14th century A D. All eclipses contained in manuscripts, like Thucydides one, relating ancient events have exclusively medieval dating. All horoscopes cut in Stone or painted in Egyptian temples, like DENDERA have exclusively early medieval dating solutions.


Accuracy of Radiocarbon Dating

Radiocarbon dating is a reasonably reliable method for dating objects between 300 and 30,000 years old. However it is not 100% accurate, and there are many factors limiting its accuracy.

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The twelve tribes of Israel can refer to the 12 astrological signs. The tribe of Dan is said to be Libra. The seventh sign of the zodiac.
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The tribe of dan are not one of the tribes of israel. Anyone who says they are, are propagating a white supremacist zio-nazi fake enlightenment bullshit story.

There was 12 tribes not 13.

The same lies were used to trick the red jews into fanatical zionism, then they set the red jews upon palestine.

The tribe of dan are the hyksos invaders of kemet. They tore KEMET/ISRAEL into two kingdoms.

They then hell-enized JUDAH and created a fake messiah (HEY-ZEUS)
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Great trading centres on the maritime trade routes to Britain and also to the Baltic. The late Roman writer, Avienus, quoted from a sixth century BC nautical log from Marseilles (Massilia) as describing the trade between Tartessos (the Biblical Tarshish) and the peoples of southwestern Britain, Ireland and Brittany.

The tin was mined, beaten into squares and carried to centres such as Ictis ( St. Michael's Mount in Cornwall ) where it was loaded on to ships

Then the tin followed one of two alternative routes between the southwest of Britain and the Eastern Mediterranean. One was by sea via the Atlantic coast of Spain through the Pillars of Hercules past Tarshish across the Mediterranean to it's final destination in Phoenicia.

The other was overland across Brittany to the Greek settlement of Massilia (Marseilles) as described by Diodorus Siculus.

The land route started by sea across the Channel to Morlaix (France). From Morlaix it was carried across France on pack horses to Marseilles where the tin was loaded on to ships for the last stage of the journey to Phoenicia.

By the first century AD the Bristol Channel was a well established trading centre.

Writing circa 445 BC Herotodus speaks of the British Isles as the Tin Isles or Casserides.



Egyptian blue faience beads have been found in Neolithic tombs.

"The collapse of Roman Communications. during the first half of the fifth century was followed by the resumption of the Irish Sea trade routes of the later prehistoric periods. The Irish Sea became a unifying factor between Ireland, South Wales, south-west Britain and Brittany with contacts reaching as far as the East Mediterranean. This is shown particularly by the importation of jars of wine or oil from the Eastern Mediterranean to south-west Britain; sherds of these vessels have already been found at Tintagel, Lundy, Glastonbury Tor, and in South Wales at Dinas Powys. This Trade in luxuries implies the existence of a wealthy and well connected aristocracy.'' The Archaeology of Exmoor'

Three of these sites are acknowledged to have been the citadels of native princes; TINtagel, Glastonbury Tor (1964-5 excavations conducted by Philip Rhatz) and Dinas Powys.



The main Phoenician settlements.

Antioch (1), Cyprus (2), Crete (3), Sicily (4), Cyrenia (5), Massilia (Marseilles) (7), Sardinia (6), Spain (8) and ultimately Southwest Britain (9).



THE AMORITE PHOENICIAN TIN MINES OF CASSITERIDES OR CORNWALL REFERRED TO ABOUT 2750 B.C. BY SARGON I. OF AKKAD, & KAPTARA OR "CAPHTOR" AS ABDARA IN SPAIN.

A CONTEMPORARY reference to the Amorite Phoenician tin mines in Britain appears probably to exist in the historical road-tablet of the great "Akkad" emperor Sargon I., about 2800-2750 B.C., recording the mileage and geography of the roads throughout his vast empire of world-conquest. The existing document is a certified copy in cuneiform script of the original record of Sargon I. It was found at the Assyrian capital of Assur, and was made by an official scribe in the 8th century B.C.

"To the Tin-land (KUGA-KI) (and) Kaptara (Caphtor, Krete), countries beyond the Upper Sea (the Mediterranean)."

AMORITE PHOENICIANS IN CORNWALL

Now "Anak" in Akkadian is a name for "Tin." And Tarshish, which, as Tarz or Tarsus, we have seen was a chief port of the Amorite Phoenicians, and which we know was actually visited and conquered by Sargon I., is thus celebrated in the Old Testament in connection with Tyre of the Phoenicians: "Tarshish was thy merchant by reason of the multitude of all kinds of riches; with silver, iron, TIN, and lead, they traded in thy fairs."

It would thus appear that the Tin which was imported into ancient Palestine, which was presumably obtained in most part, if not altogether, from the Phoenician Tin-mines of Ancient Britain.

Mother of all history conspiracies?

Historians from Oxford say: “hey, everybody knows that Julius Caesar lived in the first century B.C. ‘Julius Caesar’ statement is only a point of view as there is simply no irrefutable documentary proof that Julius Caesar or any other great name of antiquity ever existed. Better than that – extremely rare sources that can be reliably dated back to the 10th or 14th centuries A D, do not show the polished Picture of classical history. They show a Picture both contradictory and confusing. All methods of dating of ancient sources and artefacts are erroneous: Radio-carbon C14 method produces dating with exactitude of plus minus 1500 years, therefore it is too crude for dating of events in historical time frame.

The Almagest tractate, which lies as corner Stone contemporary chronology, compiled in the 2nd century A D by Ptolemy, the founding father of astronomy, contains astronomical data of 9th to 16th century. The Bronze Age, that has supposedly began 5000 years ago. Bronze is made of 90% copper and 10% tin, but the technology for tin extraction dates back to 14th century A D. All eclipses contained in manuscripts, like Thucydides one, relating ancient events have exclusively medieval dating. All horoscopes cut in Stone or painted in Egyptian temples, like DENDERA have exclusively early medieval dating solutions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ-vq...layer_embedded

Accuracy of Radiocarbon Dating

Radiocarbon dating is a reasonably reliable method for dating objects between 300 and 30,000 years old. However it is not 100% accurate, and there are many factors limiting its accuracy.

http://deskofbrian.com/wp-content/up...oydTheWall.jpg

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The tribe of dan are not one of the tribes of israel. Anyone who says they are, are propagating a white supremacist zio-nazi fake enlightenment bullshit story.

There was 12 tribes not 13.

The same lies were used to trick the red jews into fanatical zionism, then they set the red jews upon palestine.

The tribe of dan are the hyksos invaders of kemet. They tore KEMET/ISRAEL into two kingdoms.

They then hell-enized JUDAH and created a fake messiah (HEY-ZEUS)
Maybe you need more evidence to support your theory


(the video has been removed)sorry about that it was a good one too, exposing African corruption

The African Union

* Introduction
* What is the history of the African Union?
* What are the objectives of the African Union?
* What is the African Union’s role in Darfur?
* What other interventions has the AU mounted?
* What barriers prevent the AU from evolving into a stronger institution?
* How does the United States support the African Union?
* What are the key organs of the African Union?
* What is NEPAD?

http://www.cfr.org/publication/11616/african_union.html

The illuminati, Africa, and the 3rd world (ep.8)





Mbeki is the son of Epainette and Govan Mbeki. His father was a stalwart of the African National Congress (ANC) and the South African Communist Party. He is a native Xhosa speaker. His parents were both teachers and activists in a rural area of ANC strength, and Mbeki describes himself as "born into the struggle"; a portrait of Karl Marx sat on the family mantelpiece.



South Africa's President Thabo Mbeki is made a Knight of the Order of St John at a colourful ceremony held at a cathedral in Cape Town accompanied by The Duke of Gloucester.


Looks like to me they all pee in the same bloodline pot.


Redheaded Pharaoh Ramesses II
http://www.white-history.com/earlson...s/ramesses.jpg

Pharaoh Ramesses II (of the 19th Dynasty), is generally considered to be the most powerful and influential King that ever reigned in Egypt. He is one of the few rulers who has earned the epithet "the Great". Subsequently, his racial origins are of extreme interest.

Professor P. F. Ceccaldi, with a research team behind him, studied some hairs which were removed from the mummy's scalp. Ramesses II was 90 years-old when he died, and his hair had turned white. Ceccaldi determined that the reddish-yellow colour of the mummy's hair had been brought about by its being dyed with a dilute henna solution; it proved to be an example of the cosmetic attentions of the embalmers. However, traces of the hair's original colour (in youth), remain in the roots, even into advanced old age. Microscopic examinations proved that the hair roots contained traces of natural red pigments, and that therefore, during his youth, Ramesses II had been red-haired.

Psusennes I

Psusennes is the Greek version of his original name Pasebakhaemniut, which means "The Star Appearing in the City"





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Haile Selassie I (Ge'ez: ኃይለ፡ ሥላሴ, "Power of the Trinity"[1]) (23 July 1892 – 27 August 1975), born Tafari Makonnen,[2] was Ethiopia's regent from 1916 to 1930 and Emperor of Ethiopia from 1930 to 1974. The heir to a dynasty that traced its origins to the 13th century, and from there by tradition back to King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, Haile Selassie is a defining figure in both Ethiopian and African history.[3][4]

Why did the Italian Facists occupy Ethiopia?

The same italian facist family who claim to be "king of jerusalem" (king of kings).

"On 5 May, Marshal Pietro Badoglio led Italian troops into Addis Ababa, and Mussolini declared Ethiopia an Italian province. Victor Emanuel III was proclaimed as the new Emperor of Ethiopia. However, on the previous day, the Ethiopian exiles had left Djibouti aboard the British cruiser HMS Enterprise. They were bound for Jerusalem in the British Mandate of Palestine, where the Ethiopian royal family maintained a residence. The Imperial family disembarked at Haifa and then went on to Jerusalem. Once there, Haile Selassie and his retinue prepared to make their case at Geneva. The choice of Jerusalem was highly symbolic, since the Solomonic Dynasty claimed descent from the House of David. Leaving the Holy Land, Haile Selassie and his entourage sailed for Gibraltar aboard the British cruiser HMS Capetown. From Gibraltar, the exiles were transferred to an ordinary liner. By doing this, the government of the United Kingdom was spared the expense of a state reception.[67]"

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"Titles of the Crown of Italy
From 1860 to 1946, the following titles were used by the King of Italy:

Victor Emmanuel III, by the Grace of God and the Will of the Nation, King of Italy, King of Sardinia, Cyprus, Jerusalem, Armenia, Duke of Savoy, count of Maurienne, Marquis (of the Holy Roman Empire) in Italy; prince of Piedmont, Carignano, Oneglia, Poirino, Trino; Prince and Perpetual vicar of the Holy Roman Empire; prince of Carmagnola, Montmellian with Arbin and Francin, prince bailliff of the Duchy of Aosta, Prince of Chieri, Dronero, Crescentino, Riva di Chieri e Banna, Busca, Bene, Brà, Duke of Genoa, Monferrat, Aosta, Duke of Chablais, Genevois, Duke of Piacenza, Marquis of Saluzzo (Saluces), Ivrea, Susa, del Maro, Oristano, Cesana, Savona, Tarantasia, Borgomanero e Cureggio, Caselle, Rivoli, Pianezza, Govone, Salussola, Racconigi con Tegerone, Migliabruna e Motturone, Cavallermaggiore, Marene, Modane e Lanslebourg, Livorno Ferraris, Santhià Agliè, Centallo e Demonte, Desana, Ghemme, Vigone, Count of Barge, Villafranca, Ginevra, Nizza, Tenda, Romont, Asti, Alessandria, del Goceano, Novara, Tortona, Bobbio, Soissons, Sant'Antioco, Pollenzo, Roccabruna, Tricerro, Bairo, Ozegna, delle Apertole, Baron of Vaud e del Faucigni, Lord of Vercelli, Pinerolo, della Lomellina, della Valle Sesia, del marchesato di Ceva, Overlord of Monaco, Roccabruna and 11/12th of Menton, Noble patrician of Venice, patrician of Ferrara."
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"The League of Nations decried Italy's participation in this war and the Italian claim on Ethiopia's conquest was disputed by some members of the international community (namely the United States and the Soviet Union) but accepted by Great Britain and France in 1938. It was undone in 1941 by the Ethiopian restoration after five years of Italian Empire."
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Also, take note that Europeans created their own version of King Solomon who has no relation to the Bible or the Ark what so ever.

The same pricks will tell you Solomon was a whitey.

" << Song of Solomon 1:5 >>


New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"I am black but lovely, O daughters of Jerusalem, Like the tents of Kedar, Like the curtains of Solomon.
King James Bible
I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

American King James Version
I am black, but comely, O you daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

American Standard Version
I am black, but comely, Oh ye daughters of Jerusalem, As the tents of Kedar, As the curtains of Solomon.

Douay-Rheims Bible
I am black but beautiful, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Cedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

Darby Bible Translation
I am black, but comely, daughters of Jerusalem, As the tents of Kedar, As the curtains of Solomon.

English Revised Version
I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

Webster's Bible Translation
I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

World English Bible
I am dark, but lovely, you daughters of Jerusalem, like Kedar's tents, like Solomon's curtains.

Young's Literal Translation
Dark am I, and comely, daughters of Jerusalem, As tents of Kedar, as curtains of Solomon."
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Maybe you need more evidence to support your theory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CabAXmM9KAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-JCfZ0x25Q

(the video has been removed)sorry about that it was a good one too, exposing African corruption

The African Union

* Introduction
* What is the history of the African Union?
* What are the objectives of the African Union?
* What is the African Union’s role in Darfur?
* What other interventions has the AU mounted?
* What barriers prevent the AU from evolving into a stronger institution?
* How does the United States support the African Union?
* What are the key organs of the African Union?
* What is NEPAD?

http://www.cfr.org/publication/11616/african_union.html

The illuminati, Africa, and the 3rd world (ep.8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uy8O1peTqo




Mbeki is the son of Epainette and Govan Mbeki. His father was a stalwart of the African National Congress (ANC) and the South African Communist Party. He is a native Xhosa speaker. His parents were both teachers and activists in a rural area of ANC strength, and Mbeki describes himself as "born into the struggle"; a portrait of Karl Marx sat on the family mantelpiece.



South Africa's President Thabo Mbeki is made a Knight of the Order of St John at a colourful ceremony held at a cathedral in Cape Town accompanied by The Duke of Gloucester.


Looks like to me they all pee in the same bloodline pot.


Redheaded Pharaoh Ramesses II
http://www.white-history.com/earlson...s/ramesses.jpg

Pharaoh Ramesses II (of the 19th Dynasty), is generally considered to be the most powerful and influential King that ever reigned in Egypt. He is one of the few rulers who has earned the epithet "the Great". Subsequently, his racial origins are of extreme interest.

Professor P. F. Ceccaldi, with a research team behind him, studied some hairs which were removed from the mummy's scalp. Ramesses II was 90 years-old when he died, and his hair had turned white. Ceccaldi determined that the reddish-yellow colour of the mummy's hair had been brought about by its being dyed with a dilute henna solution; it proved to be an example of the cosmetic attentions of the embalmers. However, traces of the hair's original colour (in youth), remain in the roots, even into advanced old age. Microscopic examinations proved that the hair roots contained traces of natural red pigments, and that therefore, during his youth, Ramesses II had been red-haired.

Psusennes I

Psusennes is the Greek version of his original name Pasebakhaemniut, which means "The Star Appearing in the City"





Rik Clay & 2012- RIP 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th979HgohiE
Rik Clay very switched on, another bright light snuffed out.

some interesting vids:

The Tribe of the Serpent: DAN



The reptilian pact:



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