Origins of Freemasonry

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by lizzy

thanks lg, both were great,l..the first we can equate the milky way to the double helix,..... infinate space (whether expanding limitlesssly or due to contract at some point we are long gone) to say a quark or neutrino...we have telescopes that can see the edge of the universe and the super collider....ancient .culture that must be preserved and not decimated by greed and power.....but will it survive or fall victim?

Sunlight drive

Originally Posted by lightgiver

Freemasons have used ciphers since at least the 18th century. The Freemason’s Cipher is sometimes called the Pigpen Cipher, because the alphabet is written into a grid of lines, which may look like pigpens, and a cross shape from two diagonal lines. A letter is enciphered by drawing the shape of the cell that encompasses it. Freemasons learned one of the many versions of this cipher as part of the Royal Arch initiation.

Here are the main reasons Freemasons use ciphers:

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To keep their ritual ceremonies secure so they aren’t easily discovered by the unitiated
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To keep messages about Masonic business (like “lodge officers meet one half-hour before the meeting of the full lodge”) just among Masons
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To have fun, plain and simple

The Grand Lodge style of Freemasonry began in 1717 in London, England, and spread to France in fewer than ten years. In France, Freemasons experimented with the development of so-called high degrees, ritual initiation ceremonies that somehow went beyond the first three degrees of Freemasonry.

These high degree ceremonies were plays that enhanced a Mason’s experience and interaction with the legends, for example, of the Temple built by King Solomon. Some believe that the French invented a degree called the Royal Arch, as a kind of completion (keystone) of the third or Master Mason degree.

However the Royal Arch was developed — and early Masonic records are notoriously incomplete — history suggests that the Royal Arch degree was being conferred in London in the 1740s. When it comes down to it, the Freemason’s Cipher (in any version) is a straight substitution cipher, so you can solve it by substituting a letter for each symbol.

The Mason's Keystone: Solving the inner degrees

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_gZLndw-00

[Do Not Open The Box] Hellraiser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzRHNpZx2c



They Live (1988) Part 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cmdr1X86Ac

The Andromeda Galaxy (pronounced /ænˈdrɒmədə/) is a spiral galaxy approximately 2.5 million light-years away in the constellation Andromeda. It is also known as Messier 31, M31, or NGC 224, and is often referred to as the Great Andromeda Nebula in older texts.

Pinwheel Galaxy

The Pinwheel Galaxy (also known as Messier 101 or NGC 5457) is a face-on spiral galaxy distanced 25 million light-years (eight megaparsecs) away in the constellation Ursa Major

Ursa Major (Latin: "Larger Bear"), also known as the Great Bear, is a constellation visible throughout the year in most of the northern hemisphere. It is dominated by the widely recognized asterism known as the Big Dipper or Plough, which is a useful pointer toward north, and which has mythological significance in numerous world cultures.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...RC2006-10a.jpg

All the stars that the eye can distinguish in the night sky are part of the Milky Way Galaxy, but aside from these relatively nearby stars, the galaxy appears as a hazy band of white light arching around the entire celestial sphere. The light originates from stars and other material that lie within the galactic plane. Dark regions within the band, such as the Great Rift and the Coalsack, correspond to areas where light from distant stars is blocked by dark nebulae. The Milky Way has a relatively low surface brightness due to the interstellar medium that fills the galactic disk, which prevents us from seeing the bright galactic center. It is thus difficult to see from any urban or suburban location suffering from LIGHT POLLUTION.

Ursa Major (Latin: "Larger Bear"), also known as the Great Bear, is a constellation visible throughout the year in most of the northern hemisphere. It is dominated by the widely recognized asterism known as the Big Dipper or Plough, which is a useful pointer toward north, and which has mythological significance in numerous world cultures.

The Milky Way arches across this 360-degree panorama of the night sky above the Paranal platform, home of ESO’s Very Large Telescope. The image was made from 37 individual frames with a total exposure time of about 30 minutes, taken in the early morning hours. The Moon is just rising and the zodiacal light shines above it, while the Milky Way stretches across the sky opposite the observatory.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_Sky_edit.jpg

It is one of hundreds of billions of galaxies in the observable universe.


“ You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. ”

— O'Brien

1984 The Movie - part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdyKJ1xXph8

The Pinwheel Galaxy (also known as Messier 101 or NGC 5457) is a face-on spiral galaxy distanced 25 million light-years (eight megaparsecs) away in the constellation Ursa Major.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinwheel_Galaxy

http://www.edkohout.com/mundane/arch-1.html

Read more: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...#ixzz17wEuE5R2

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

The Doors

[lightgiver]

UFO

Originally Posted by fekdemasons

There are three different independent videos here showing the same phenomina..

Well I can tell you its not CGI...

THis is mind boggling stuff..

My favourite bit is the American tourist in vid 3 " We seen em like that n missisipi "

Priceless


1st video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ

2nd video (from guy in front of camera in last video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrmPTnhaHzs

3rd video
taken by a person who was much closer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156038

[lizzy]

"Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy," yes indeed, I have'nt gotten into the details....but I should .....we have looked up at the heavens and built accordingly , based on the simplest pre-historic / neolithic sunsise at soltice to the grand design of the last 6-26000+yrs....
Let's have faith that this time o'brien lives........I do vasilate..that's the duality of a gemini

Geez, the box was both cool and in the second ' programming?

update to last posting....sorry lg . ....there's project bluebeam that can create this and ofc the fakery.....I have no idea which....but I don't think 'they' are here.....

[rodin]

Originally Posted by lizzy

"Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy," yes indeed, I have'nt gotten into the details....but I should .....we have looked up at the heavens and built accordingly , based on the simplest pre-historic / neolithic sunsise at soltice to the grand design of the last 6-26000+yrs....
Let's have faith that this time o'brien lives........I do vasilate..that's the duality of a gemini

Geez, the box was both cool and in the second ' programming?

update to last posting....sorry lg . ....there's project bluebeam that can create this and ofc the fakery.....I have no idea which....but I don't think 'they' are here.....

IMO the fakery goes much deeper. The Old Testament is IMO a fake derived from the appropriation of real Egyptian history and re-branding it with a Jewish back-story. This reseacher thinks that the ancient Jews were really Egyptians, and provides much evidence. However he is wrong in this conclusion.

Soggin is not the only author nor source that reveals that the production of Ezra in drafting the Old Testament has within it many historical inaccuracies regarding the identity and origin for the Jewish nation which was returned to Israel by Persia following the Persian defeat of the Babylonian nation. One could go so far as to say many of these tradition given these returning Jewish captives were "made up" and this is where Ezra comes in as the Egyptian roots of the Jewish Nation is purposefully omitted and concealed by the work of Ezra and instead of identifying correctly the Pharaohs of Egypt they were purposefully characterized as Jews in giving the returning Jews a "false history" of their past which they remembered not. ....

http://www.egyptcx.netfirms.com/were...hs_egypt_2.htm

see also

http://www.egyptcx.netfirms.com/were...hs_egypt_3.htm

Truth is, IMO, that the organisation known as The Mysterious Force, or some other, faked the entire 'ancient history' provenance of this original 'Judeo-Freemasonry'. Did it even exist until well into the first millenium AD? I think not. The OT found with the Dead Sea Scrolls is part of an elaborate hoax IMO to fake an earlier provenance of the written record.

Originally Posted by rodin

I notice on the BBC the term 'Judeo-Christianity' has replaced 'Christianity'. This gives Judaism equal billing with, and in fact places it before, Christianity. The agenda is to have Jews and Christians grouped together and to have Islam separate in public perception. In fact only Christians and Muslims respect Christ.......

How convenient that Jewish 'Scripture' used to be an 'oral tradition'....

Note that the New Testament was written down, letters etc, and many verifable early sources exist. Quite the opposite of the OT

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by lizzy

"Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy," yes indeed, I have'nt gotten into the details....but I should .....we have looked up at the heavens and built accordingly , based on the simplest pre-historic / neolithic sunsise at soltice to the grand design of the last 6-26000+yrs....
Let's have faith that this time o'brien lives........I do vasilate..that's the duality of a gemini

Geez, the box was both cool and in the second ' programming?

update to last posting....sorry lg . ....there's project bluebeam that can create this and ofc the fakery.....I have no idea which....but I don't think 'they' are here.....

The Final Frontier ... Not really

Originally Posted by lightgiver

Freemasons have used ciphers since at least the 18th century. The Freemason’s Cipher is sometimes called the Pigpen Cipher, because the alphabet is written into a grid of lines, which may look like pigpens, and a cross shape from two diagonal lines. A letter is enciphered by drawing the shape of the cell that encompasses it. Freemasons learned one of the many versions of this cipher as part of the Royal Arch initiation.

These high degree ceremonies were plays that enhanced a Mason’s experience and interaction with the legends, for example, of the Temple built by King Solomon. Some believe that the French invented a degree called the Royal Arch, as a kind of completion (keystone) of the third or Master Mason degree.

However the Royal Arch was developed — and early Masonic records are notoriously incomplete — history suggests that the Royal Arch degree was being conferred in London in the 1740s. When it comes down to it, the Freemason’s Cipher (in any version) is a straight substitution cipher, so you can solve it by substituting a letter for each symbol.

The Mason's Keystone: Solving the inner degrees



They Live (1988) Part 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cmdr1X86Ac

The Andromeda Galaxy (pronounced /ænˈdrɒmədə/) is a spiral galaxy approximately 2.5 million light-years away in the constellation Andromeda. It is also known as Messier 31, M31, or NGC 224, and is often referred to as the Great Andromeda Nebula in older texts.

Pinwheel Galaxy

The Pinwheel Galaxy (also known as Messier 101 or NGC 5457) is a face-on spiral galaxy distanced 25 million light-years (eight megaparsecs) away in the constellation Ursa Major

Ursa Major (Latin: "Larger Bear"), also known as the Great Bear, is a constellation visible throughout the year in most of the northern hemisphere. It is dominated by the widely recognized asterism known as the Big Dipper or Plough, which is a useful pointer toward north, and which has mythological significance in numerous world cultures.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...RC2006-10a.jpg

All the stars that the eye can distinguish in the night sky are part of the Milky Way Galaxy, but aside from these relatively nearby stars, the galaxy appears as a hazy band of white light arching around the entire celestial sphere. The light originates from stars and other material that lie within the galactic plane. Dark regions within the band, such as the Great Rift and the Coalsack, correspond to areas where light from distant stars is blocked by dark nebulae. The Milky Way has a relatively low surface brightness due to the interstellar medium that fills the galactic disk, which prevents us from seeing the bright galactic center. It is thus difficult to see from any urban or suburban location suffering from LIGHT POLLUTION.

Ursa Major (Latin: "Larger Bear"), also known as the Great Bear, is a constellation visible throughout the year in most of the northern hemisphere. It is dominated by the widely recognized asterism known as the Big Dipper or Plough, which is a useful pointer toward north, and which has mythological significance in numerous world cultures.

The Milky Way arches across this 360-degree panorama of the night sky above the Paranal platform, home of ESO’s Very Large Telescope. The image was made from 37 individual frames with a total exposure time of about 30 minutes, taken in the early morning hours. The Moon is just rising and the zodiacal light shines above it, while the Milky Way stretches across the sky opposite the observatory.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_Sky_edit.jpg

It is one of hundreds of billions of galaxies in the observable universe.

1984 The Movie - part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdyKJ1xXph8

The Pinwheel Galaxy (also known as Messier 101 or NGC 5457) is a face-on spiral galaxy distanced 25 million light-years (eight megaparsecs) away in the constellation Ursa Major.

TEMPLE MOUNT = Transcendental Meditation (TM) refers to the Transcendental Meditation technique, a specific form of mantra meditation, and to the Transcendental Meditation movement, a spiritual movement

IS

LAM or ISIS LAM.

“ You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. ”

— O'Brien

Originally Posted by fekdemasons

There are three different independent videos here showing the same phenomina..

Well I can tell you its not CGI...

THis is mind boggling stuff..

My favourite bit is the American tourist in vid 3 " We seen em like that n missisipi "

Priceless


1st video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ

2nd video (from guy in front of camera in last video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrmPTnhaHzs

3rd video
taken by a person who was much closer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY

They Live Part 9

They Live (1988) Part 9 - YouTube

They Live (1988) Part 9 - YouTube

1988

Transcendental Meditation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Transcendental Meditation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Transcendental Meditation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[rodin]

From the same set?

[rodin]

Egyptian Archaeologists Discover 4,300-Year-Old Tombs with Vivid Wall Paintings

SAQQARA (AP).- Egyptian archaeologists on Thursday unveiled a newly-unearthed double tomb with vivid wall paintings in the ancient necropolis of Saqqara near Cairo, saying it could be the start for uncovering a vast cemetery in the area. The tomb includes two false doors with colorful paintings depicting the two people buried there, a father and a son who served as heads of the royal scribes, said Abdel-Hakim Karar, a top archaeologist at Saqqara.

"The colors of the false door are fresh as if it was painted yesterday," Karar told reporters.

Humidity had destroyed the sarcophagus of the father, Shendwas, while the tomb of the son, Khonsu, was robbed in antiquity, he said.

Also inscribed on the father's false door was the name of Pepi II, whose 90-year reign is believed to be the longest of the pharaohs. The inscription dates the double tomb to the 6th dynasty, which marked the beginning of the decline of the Old Kingdom, also known as the age of pyramids.

Egypt's antiquities chief, Zahi Hawass, said the new finds were "the most distinguished tombs ever found from the Old Kingdom," because of their "amazing colors." He said the area, if excavated, could unveil the largest cemetery of ancient Egypt.

The paintings on the false doors identified Shendwas and Khonsu as royal scribes and "supervisors of the mission," meaning they were in charge of delegations overseeing the supply of materials used for pyramids construction.

A single shaft from the surface led down to the father's tomb, from which a side passage led to that of the son, with the false door with paintings of Khonsu in front of an offering table.

Hawass pointed to a handful of duck-shaped artifacts and a small obelisk made of limestone. Such obelisks were often buried with the dead in the 5th and 6th dynasties to show their veneration for the sun god, Ra. "These artifacts were found at the end of the burial shaft, at 18 meters (yards) depth, but we covered it up," Hawass told reporters.

Karar said that so far six tombs dating back to the end of the Old Kingdom have been unearthed since digging in the area three began three years ago. Work started on the double tomb five weeks ago. The tombs lie just west of Saqqara's most famed pyramid, the Step Pyramid of King Djoser, which is surrounded by a large burial ground, contain tombs from Egypt's earliest history up through Roman times.

http://www.artknowledgenews.com/2010...paintings.html

covered it up????

Maybe the painting is 'fresh as if it was painted yesterday' because it was

[rodin]

The NWO's Role in Shaping History

Most of the major wars, political upheavals, and economic depression/recessions of the past 100 years (and earlier) were carefully planned and instigated by the machinations of these elites. They include The Spanish-American War (1898), World War I and World War II; The Great Depression; the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917; the Rise of Nazi Germany; the Korean War; the Vietnam War; the 1989-91 "fall" of Soviet Communism; the 1991 Gulf War; the War in Kosovo; and the two Iraq wars. Even the French Revolution was orchestrated into existence by elements of the NWO.

The instigation of a trumped-up war as a cover for amassing fortunes which can be dated back to at least the 12th Century when only a core group of nine members of the Knights Templar, kicked off the The Crusades that lasted for over a century and a half.

http://www.threeworldwars.com/new-world-order.htm

Nine founders, just like The Mysterious Force

Could they be the SAME BLOODLINES?

[rodin]

8 Jewish archaeological discoveries

From Dead Sea Scroll fragments to a ‘miracle pool’

It's been decades since the first pieces of the Dead Sea Scrolls were found in the caves of the Judean desert, but yet another piece of parchment bearing 2,000-year-old scriptures - verses from the Book of Leviticus - was found just recently. Such finds demonstrate that the Holy Land can still produce ancient treasures, thousands of years after the events described in the Bible.
Click the "Next" label to learn about seven more archaeological discoveries in recent years that have shed light on Jewish history and the Old Testament.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28162671...ience-science/

From the same team that brought you

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157826

[rodin]

Originally Posted by hunkahunka

....Notice that so many of the masonic jewish names are referencing mined metals and stones.
All the bergs and steins and golds and silvers

ie: steinberg, rothstein, rothschild, steinem, spielberg, goldberg, goldman, goldstein, feingold, feinstein, einstein, bergman, silverstein, goldberg, ruby, rubenstein, greenberg, greenstein, bluestein,etc. etc. etc. ....

Wow. What a 'gem' you have come up with there. Let's not forget the Diamonds, and the Kings and the Princes, Solomons, etc

[john devine]

Originally Posted by kadosh

For clarification- my question was only related to an avatar I previously used here and not the current one that has now been commented on.

Since the beginning of recorded history mankind has been involved in a continuous struggle between good and evil, between the spiritual forces of light and the spiritual forces of darkness. No place in Scripture is there an admonition for believers to be passive bystanders.

Throughout history those working for good have worked openly and often alone. Those working for evil have worked in secret and have usually been organized.
Because of this, the secret side of history has often been the instigator of major world events.

Which path are you on kadosh, the left or right ?

[mahabaratara]

Actually its about balance.

There are far more than two paths.

Nature shows us this truth.

[boots]

Originally Posted by rodin

From the same set?

[rodin]

Originally Posted by grandsecretary

Not QUITE fair.

"Patrick (sic St Patrick) had endeavoured to convert pagan Judaistic Ireland before even the Roman Catholic Church had taken hold on the people. Dr. O'Donovan, upon the Four Masters, states in fact that, "Nothing is clearer than that Patrick engrafted Christianity on the pagan superstitions with so much skill that he won the people over to the Christian religion before they understood the exact difference between the two systems of beliefs;"....(

I am interested in what you mean by 'Pagan Judaistic Ireland'

[rodin]

Nero was a Jew. Jesus wasn't. According to Jews

www.jewornotjew.com

[sarius]

Hey Rodin, I doubt it goes back further than 1000 years. Mostly because i suspect the ancient world is about as real as Tolkien's middle earth but that's another story.

Funny how the Crusades happened 1000 years after Christ's death and not soon after like you'd expect. Or how the Shroud dates to the middle ages. You might even notice how many texts that re-appear in the middle ages, were strangely lost for hundreds of years.

[offramp]

Originally Posted by rodin

Nero was a Jew. Jesus wasn't. According to Jews

www.jewornotjew.com

At http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=476 the verdict for Nero is Not a jew.

The verdict for Jesus http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=20 is "Sadly, a Jew".

You must have misread it.

[rodin]

Originally Posted by offramp

At http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=476 the verdict for Nero is Not a jew.

The verdict for Jesus http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=20 is "Sadly, a Jew".

You must have misread it.

I quoted another poster from another thread, maybe the verdict has been changed since?

[rodin]

Originally Posted by rodin

I quoted another poster from another thread, maybe the verdict has been changed since?

here is the link

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....8&postcount=12

[offramp]

Originally Posted by rodin

I quoted another poster from another thread, maybe the verdict has been changed since?

I believe this is why people are encouraged not to rely on secondary sources. It would not have been hard to click on the site and look it up, would it? It took me about 40 seconds.