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[kblood]

I wouldnt expect other people on this forum to have experienced something like what she did. Then again there are many different people here, so its not impossible. My own experience with spirits and the non physical parts of our self is taking it as it comes. Learn as much as possible from it, and try to go back to the memories of when it happened and try to get all the details. Maybe something would be found helpfull that seemed irrelevant at first.

With these kinds of things it is really difficult, because our body doesnt hold much of the spiritual memory. In fact since its infinite then we I guess the part we do feel and know probably cant even be called a fraction. So I guess it might take some meditating or other ways of soul searching to figure it out. Since she is an empath shes probably very open by nature. Even with all that has happened to her, she does not seem like the kind of person that has closed herself, otherwise she would not still be an empath. That ability would go away if she did. I know since I am an empath, but its been years since I truly felt someone elses emotions, at least that I am aware of.

My guess is that they found that as a weakness in her and as a way to get to her. Tell her to believe in herself, she is most likely more experienced and stronger than them spiritually, so if she knew how to focus on it, it wouldnt be a problem for her to fend them off spiritually. Problem is when caught off guard.

Its not that I believe everything you have wrote, but you dont seem sure yourself either. I just know that it might be true and expect maybe most of it is. So I hope my advice will help.

[kblood]

Something came to me, while thinking this over. Its just a theory, but I think that on a spiritual plane there are still rules to follow. In all my earlier spiritual experiences I always had a feeling that it all had rules to follow. Wasnt something I have been told it just felt like I knew it had to be that way. I could never pin down the exact rules, but I think the basic rule behind it is free will. Every being must have free will and what it does and what happens to it comes down to choices made.

Being born ie. was a choice we all made at some point as spirits or souls. Choosing this we probably did maybe just to try it or maybe knowing from previous experience what it would basicly be like to incarnate into a physical form. Doing this we might end up being dead born, and it probably wouldnt have been much of an experience. Not much to regret either though, although its probably a waste of time to live with regrets anyway.

My point is many things can happen to us here, and our free will is being able to choose how to react to whatever happens. According the the law of attraction we are likely to attract some of what happens to us as well.

Spiritually we are still the same though, free willed and what we do are choices. As spirits we can consciously choose what we wish to experience, if something is bad, its just about willing it away. That part of us is still with us in our physical body. Most of the time that part probably is not doing much. Just experiencing the whole trip, maybe not even influencing it all much. At least alot of what we do could be due to just instincts and natural desires. As humans although our spirit might be a bit latent, its always there. With its freedom it ought to be able to choose to leave this experience if that was its choice, maybe the spirit part of us can become deeply taken by this whole experience and actually forget that there is even a spiritual self anymore and think the physical realm it is in or has been in is the only real reality. Thats at least something Robert Monroe has written about.

All of this relating to your ex-girlfriends experience, well it seems her spirit must have been convinced someway to leave her. Hard to say how much of ones ego and personality is in the body and how much comes from the spirit, but I do believe its possible to switch bodies, although I wouldnt like to try. At least I have tried being in someone elses head. Didnt try controlling any limbs though, and I hope I would not have been able to.

And the ones after her. They know there are rules like this as well, they know it very well and therefore they have to find ways to bend these rules to make it possible for them to achieve their goals. I actually suspect that your ex is already prepared for them if they try something like that again, even if she might not know it herself.

[kennystetson]

Originally Posted by kblood

My guess is that they found that as a weakness in her and as a way to get to her. Tell her to believe in herself, she is most likely more experienced and stronger than them spiritually, so if she knew how to focus on it, it wouldnt be a problem for her to fend them off spiritually. Problem is when caught off guard.

Yes, the thing is it has become very hard for her to protect herself recently. Over the past couple of years, her soul has had to split itself twice, so she is left with less than half a soul down here (the parts can only join again once she has died physically). the part of the soul that she has left is currently inside her heart trying to mend it as it has broken so much that it will not mend itself. My ex believes it will take an other two years or so before her soul can come out of her heart and her heart can start mending itself again, this is providing that her heart does not break or hurt again. This means that her soul can't help her find her spirit as it has to stay in her heart.

Without being able to find her spirit, and less than half a soul that is stuck trying to mend a broken heart things get a lot harder.

Originally Posted by kblood

All of this relating to your ex-girlfriends experience, well it seems her spirit must have been convinced someway to leave her. Hard to say how much of ones ego and personality is in the body and how much comes from the spirit

It is possible that her spirit could have been convinced or tricked, anything is possible as long as I don't know for sure what really happened, it's also important i think to be open to any suggestions or theories you guys might have on this. From what I know about her and who she is, how she deals with things... I just find it hard to believe that her spirit could have been deceived or tricked in to this. Or even left her by free will. It's just not like her spirit at all, it would at least let her know what it was doing because it's apart of herself and she has always been very much connected to that part of herself, how could she have missed it?
Don't get me wrong though, you could very much be right, this is just what I had been thinking up until now about it.

Originally Posted by kblood

And the ones after her. They know there are rules like this as well, they know it very well and therefore they have to find ways to bend these rules to make it possible for them to achieve their goals. I actually suspect that your ex is already prepared for them if they try something like that again, even if she might not know it herself.

absolutely, I have witnessed this over and over in how they work, what they do to get to her. They most definitely are aware of the rules of the game and they know they have to stick to them in a certain way, though they do everything to bend them as you say, and finding ways round these rules of life.

Originally Posted by kblood

I could never pin down the exact rules, but I think the basic rule behind it is free will. Every being must have free will and what it does and what happens to it comes down to choices made

This is what completely freaked me out with the latest events. They know they can not stop free will, but It seems that by doing what they have done they managed in a way to control her free will because this other spirit became a part of her and therefore part of her free will came from that spirit.
It was so weird to witness her trying to tell this other guy that she just didn't want to/couldn't see him anymore. Part of her wanted this to happen and the other part didn't, she just couldn't do it, it was stopping her own free will. I just wouldn't believe that free will could be completely controlled though so I did push her and tried to get her to believe in what she truly wanted and no matter what happens it's still HER choice. I don't like pushing her but I felt like if she didn't fight it this time there would be no turning back, they would get her, I just wanted to let her know that whatever happens it is all HER choice and no one elses. It was scary how much every day the spirit inside her was having more and more effect on her character and personality.
She had a go at me and told me that i simply didn't understand that she just can't do it, and she's right, I couldn't understand because it wasn't happening to me but I'm glad i pushed her because she eventually managed to believe in herself enough to break through with free will and she did it.

[radio illuminati]

Maybe she was possessed by a demon? I have tried that. For that moment the demon was inside of me I felt so much anger and hate. But I wondered that I felt like that because I am not used to feel this way so I kicked it out by sending it true love. It got out of me instantly and so did the feelings.

I am wondering why you and her attract all this stuff in your life? What are you sending out that make them go after you?

[kennystetson]

Originally Posted by radio illuminati

Maybe she was possessed by a demon? I have tried that. For that moment the demon was inside of me I felt so much anger and hate. But I wondered that I felt like that because I am not used to feel this way so I kicked it out by sending it true love. It got out of me instantly and so did the feelings.

I am wondering why you and her attract all this stuff in your life? What are you sending out that make them go after you?

She wasn't possessed by a demon, she can tell the difference between these things as she is used going within herself and it's all very clear to her when she does it. As you said when you were possessed yourself all you need to do is send them love. Demons can't get to her because her love is so pure she doesn't even have to try and direct it at them, they just can't take it.

As far as attracting it, I generally don't really attract any of that stuff, it's more her. She does nothing to attract it whatsoever though. She doesn't want any of it, she doesn't read about it, doesn't talk about it, doesn't want to know what goes on in the world, doesn't want to know why it's happening, she doesn't really want to know about any of it. She just wants to live, be happy, have a family, kids and love...something like that, just simple away from any bullshit.
It makes sense though, in all the futures that people have seen of her through visions it is only once she is truly happy, when she finds that love she seeks and deserves that she has access to her true potential, because once she has fully accomplished herself, gotten what she seeks for herself from it, only then will she turn to help others through what she can do.
This trouble is attracted to her because the reptilians fear her I guess, they know what she can do and they've seen the effect it has on the future.
She quite rightfully doesn't want the responsibility, she wants to be the average person and doesn't see why that responsibility should be put on her when she hasn't even been able to get the little she demands from life, being forced through it all un-willingly.

[kblood]

I attracted negative things in my past. Tried to be a hero, and had a period of running into about 4-5 robberies during 4 years. Either finding out they were going to happen before it did, or just being there when it happened. I only managed to actually stop one of them.

I have also met different kinds of beings, but only when in a state of open mindedness. Looking for answers and that sort of thing. Now I have managed to get a normal life, and try to keep it that way and help people when I can. I work as a supporter so my job is to help the people who call, with technical problems with their Internet connection, mail, wireless network, IP phone and that sort of thing. Which I enjoy since I like helping people and it doesnt feel like doing it just for the money and to get by.

Still I am trying to figure out what to do with the things I have discovered in the past, and ways to get more into all the stuff going on. Still I guess it takes courage. The things I know could confirm what I am doing, like confronting some of the people I have come to know with special powers of various kinds or proof of my own immortality which might be on video in a hospital archive. But I am not sure I would like what I would find whatever the answers would be. So I just stick to my normal life for now and go easy with it.

[radio illuminati]

The reptilians may feel she is a threat to them?
What if she think of them with true love and wants to send them good thought and wants to help them make peace with humans?

Maybe that helps?

I don't know if she has bad feelings about them?

Nothing can stand against true love and even demons can't stand it as we both agree on. So I think she should focus on meditating on true love and send it to all those that are attacking her.

She already have the strongest force ever. But she has not understood that she should just use it. Send true love out!

Best

Bjarke

[kennystetson]

Originally Posted by radio illuminati

The reptilians may feel she is a threat to them?
What if she think of them with true love and wants to send them good thought and wants to help them make peace with humans?

Maybe that helps?

I don't know if she has bad feelings about them?

Nothing can stand against true love and even demons can't stand it as we both agree on. So I think she should focus on meditating on true love and send it to all those that are attacking her.

She already have the strongest force ever. But she has not understood that she should just use it. Send true love out!

Best

Bjarke

yes she does love all. She has no hatred towards the people that have done horrible things to her or the ones that try to. She could become best friends with someone that hates her if that was possible, she forgives instantly and holds no grudges against anyone.
I don't personally believe that she has to understand that she has to use what she can do. Even though she is aware that she has accepted life after life to take on that responsibility, the choice should still be hers.
It's just she has never been given the chance to be happy, from birth people have been fucking around with her, scientists have experimented on her, she's been chipped, she got the backlash from what her father did, had a shitty childhood... she's continuously been used by people without being given a choice and all she wants/ever wanted is not to be a part of it, be happy and forget about it all. That is the only thing she's ever asked for and she deserves it. In all the future visions she's seen of herself where she does become truly happy she decides to dedicate her life to helping once she gets the one thing she asks for.
Your right, sending out true love to those who wish you harm can only help.

[radio illuminati]

Maybe the problem is that she has a feeling about she can't be free from all those trying to harm her?

You know law of attraction.

The woman walking on the street and has fear of being rapped and because of that sends out this fear that attracts the bad guys.

Why not give he few days where she can experience the feeling of being happy and not have to worry about things. Get her in this state of mind that she can get what she wants, if her intent is strong in that direction.

[kennystetson]

Originally Posted by radio illuminati

Maybe the problem is that she has a feeling about she can't be free from all those trying to harm her?

You know law of attraction.

The woman walking on the street and has fear of being rapped and because of that sends out this fear that attracts the bad guys.

Why not give he few days where she can experience the feeling of being happy and not have to worry about things. Get her in this state of mind that she can get what she wants, if her intent is strong in that direction.

She doesn't live in fear, she just ignores it as much as she can. I believe the thing that attracts all this to her is the pureness of her heart, her love. people who are what you would call 'evil' are attracted to that love just as much as people who chose light. She has a way of making people who have been completely broken love again. I've witnessed people who have chosen darkness truly fall in love with her.
The type of happiness she seeks can not be bluffed for a few days. She needs to love and be loved fully. her heart, soul and spirit chose me and her love is so pure that that will never change. The only thing that can make her loose her love for me is if her heart shatters (breaks beyond repair).
So she will only ever be truly happy when I change, though she does not demand that from me.

[shenoma]

Originally Posted by kennystetson

She doesn't live in fear, she just ignores it as much as she can. I believe the thing that attracts all this to her is the pureness of her heart, her love. people who are what you would call 'evil' are attracted to that love just as much as people who chose light. She has a way of making people who have been completely broken love again. I've witnessed people who have chosen darkness truly fall in love with her.
The type of happiness she seeks can not be bluffed for a few days. She needs to love and be loved fully. her heart, soul and spirit chose me and her love is so pure that that will never change. The only thing that can make her loose her love for me is if her heart shatters (breaks beyond repair).
So she will only ever be truly happy when I change, though she does not demand that from me.

Sometimes you have to stop being the victim of your past, and learn how to defend one's self. If this shit keeps happening there are always reasons behind it.

I get the feeling these are her soul lessons being played out on her alone. There is dark love, which is the hardest one to hold and to live out. She needs to expect everything and learn from it and call out to her power base within.

Shenoma

[radio illuminati]

Originally Posted by shenoma

Sometimes you have to stop being the victim of your past, and learn how to defend one's self. If this shit keeps happening there are always reasons behind it.

I get the feeling these are her soul lessons being played out on her alone. There is dark love, which is the hardest one to hold and to live out. She needs to expect everything and learn from it and call out to her power base within.

Shenoma

Yes I will have to agree. It is the same thing with the public(sheep) that some say are pure and innocent and the evil elite have programmed them so much that they can't do anything about it.

2 to a tango. Slave and Master. Slave allow self punishment and master can't stop punishing the weak that remind him of his own weakness.

We can all do something. I have got the Luciferian mindset and it has told me that those on the dark side they are tempting people but those that take the temptation allow it on them selves. Free will.

They justify their temptation by saying you learn from the hard times and we simply teach you a lesson.

Action - reaction.

I have seen those that are loving and looks innocent. They do attract allot of dark stuff because they will not take responsibility and protect them selves or don't be fooled.

Is it ok to manipulate people just because they allow it? No it is weakness and bad excuses that it is ok.

[kblood]

I would not say that it justifies their actions that she is "weak" or loving. I would not even call her weak, just because she might be attracting them somehow. I know this because I have been in a similar situation as I wrote earlier.

They (reptillian like beings, or people with that mindset) are sad beings. I feel sorry for them, and do not fear them. I think my belief in my self keeps them at bay. There is no opening for them to take, because I wouldnt hesitate to defend myself the best way I could according to the situation. The best defense against these kinds of beings in my experience, is understanding.

Understand them and help them. Forgive them and send them on their way with whatever lesson they might need. I have had about 5 attempts on my life. Doesnt matter much to me, because I dont die anyway. I once walked around with a bullet and a bullet hole in the back of my head for a week. I guess I was stubborn and wouldnt regenerate it. A bit angry that I couldnt or wouldnt die from it like normal beings. All it did was make me a bit dizzy and being rather restless at night.

Not that I ever contemplated suicide. But with the the times I been nearly killed or should have died, I just dont feel like fitting in here. I havent even found anyone who seem to have it the same way. But now that I have managed to begin living a normal life, I dont have to think much about it. No people trying to kill me, only friends and worrying about what to do in my spare time, and making time for it all. And still I miss having people attempting to kill me, the excitement it gives, but at least it seems I have stopped attracting it. I know by now that I wont die until I am ready for it anyway.

I try my best being a good person, and make up for the times I failed to help others. Maybe even made their life worse than it was instead of better. Tried foolishly to save people without really knowing how. Now I feel experienced enough to have the wisdom to know when I can help, and when I should let things play out by themselves instead of messing with it.

My past helped shape me though, and I hope it will do the same for your ex girlfriend Kenny. Although it seems her shaping isnt done yet, but then I there is always present becoming a past that has helped shape us

[th3_d3lusi0nz]

Originally Posted by kennystetson

Yes I remember reading that thread a month or two ago. I personally think accusing him as being a fraud and pulling his story from out his ass is harsh, especially when there is absolutely nothing to base these accusations on. ESPECIALLY his story as if I remember correctly (I could be wrong I haven't been through that thread in a while) there was nothing he said that seemed to out of the ordinary or that just didn't connect or make sense (unlike my story).
I joined this forum back in April or march which was before this guy posted that story up and just because I do not post often does not mean that I am new to this forum, I just restrain myself from having opinions on things I really know nothing about. Were you trying to insinuate that me and this guy might be the same person? I'm sure if both were compared you'd be able to tell the difference in the way we've written. The only similarity I see from briefly clicking on the link is that we've both divided our stories in parts and named them (part 1, part 2...). Maybe subconsciously I was inspired to write it in parts the same way he did?
I had no disillusions whatsoever before writing this thread that there would be a lot of people calling me a bullshitter. As I've seen on other threads where people have tried to share their experiences (like the one you've just pointed out), other people are always going to accuse people like us of being liars, it's just to be expected. I've learnt to accept now that that's just the way humans are though. A few months back (beginning 09) if I would have started this thread, my emotions would have probably gotten the best of me and I would have just blurted out cuss words at the people that accuse me of being a liar out of frustration and turned an important story from which we could all learn something from in to a pointless rant. Back in January when I was seriously fucked up and confused I really needed to get this shit out of me. Just needed someone to let it out on and I couldn't with my ex because she was apart of it all and I just couldn't talk about it with her without getting really angry and taking out my anger on her which was extremely unfair. Out of weakness I let it slip out on a couple of friends, even family and that completely backfired on me. They knew me well so they knew I wouldn't make that up just for the sake of bullshitting, but there was no question about it after that that I was mentally ill in some way and that my ex was to. This caused me to shut off from everyone and close in on myself, I felt extremely lonely it was horrible. Also as well as being angry about everything that had happened and the people involved I was angry at the world, all of us, just for being so fucking retarded and blind. I actually felt hatred towards 'us' and as a result towards myself.
I'm not trying to get people to feel sorry for me or get any empathy here by the way. Peoples opinions don't effect me any more, I've managed to accept that It just 'is what it is' and me being angry at absolutely everyone isn't going to help. Just realize the effect it can potentially have on people when they get accused of being liars, ill or whatever. It can really fuck someone up and it takes a lot to come out of that emotional mess once your in it.

With regard to the legitimacy of my own story, do you really think that someone would spend that much time making up a story like this (is it even possible to have so much imagination?), that they would then spend hours writing out on the David Icke forum knowing dam well that it will more than likely be dismissed as bullshit by most people (from watching the outcome of similar posts). A lot of effort for something you couldn't quite qualify as "my 5 minutes of fame". Really though, what would be the point?
Also I have done research myself, I know that a lot of this doesn't hold up next to the explanations I have come up across (JFK, going back and forth between heaven and earth...), so why would i make up a story where certain things don't make sense in the first place, surely I would have stuck to the rules to keep myself safe? I'm actually surprised that a lot of people are getting stuck up on one tiny part of the story (JFK) which could simply be explained by : it's probably a lie or an other spirit passing itself as her dad trying to confuse matters so that if revealed the story gets dismissed? It could be absolutely anything! But on the other hand, I explained that someone had the power to make other people complete, fully at one with everything and truly happy within a second and no one has mentioned it as of yet...
Yes your right, the story needs to be fleshed out, that's why I'm here to elaborate as much as I can on the parts you would like to know more about. If i would have written this story and made it complete with absolutely everything that has happened in great detail it would have been three or four times the size and a lot less people would have taken their time to read it. I'm not going anywhere so ask me anything you want.
(about the thread being in the humor section, that's just outright rude)

Yeah people! your on the david icke forum for godsake, i dont think this is bullshit, but then i dont fully grasp it all as truth either, just having an openmind is good enough...nobody really knows anything for sure nowadays, what makes u doubters so damn sure of anythin!

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[oracle2008]

Originally Posted by bsmurph83

this is accurate. consciousness can split or differentiate. that's how we ended up with bifurcated souls living as identical twins who can finish each other's sentences effortlessly. in fact, that's how we all ended up 'here.' we have multiple 'levels' of mind/consciousness. overall, you could call this the 'soul' if you want, but the religious connotations are usually unhelpful. we have an etheric 'mind, an astral 'mind', a mental 'mind', a buddhic 'mind'. beyond that it becomes meaningless to attempt discussion of 'minds' or individuals. all is One. Robert Bruce has stated that during the OBE there is a 'double' projected - a copy of our mind. all these levels operate 'independently' and coterminously! it is possible to go OB and experience the projected double's point of view, as well as the physical brain's point of view and/or the astral's point of view all at once. talk about a mind job. multiple information processing streams at once. this isn't a theory - it can and has been experienced.




ok, forgive me for 'sounding' argumentative, but this post is not made in a combative spirit, only the spirit of sharing and clarifying. that said;

nothing i have read or experienced supports these particular ideas. consciousness cannot be destroyed, and if it can then noone's informed me of how and i've seen no evidence of that. the soul 'survives' all we throw at it because that is its purpose - to evolve through experiencing the consequences of our actions (among other things).

there is no 'good' or 'bad'. we are born 'innocent' perhaps, but not 'good', nor 'bad'. some are more aware of their spiritual existence, while others are not. the less aware are often labelled 'bad'. they have merely forgotten what they truly are. they will ALL remember in time. i don't know how you came across the ideas in this paragraph but i'd suggest - at the risk of sounding like an arrogant prick - that they need serious revision, if only for your own sake, sanity and further progress. sorry, maybe this could be construed as 'rudeness' but i'm not attacking, merely speaking with candour.

you can't 'kill' your own soul, whether you murder someone or not. if that was the case it would undermine the purpose of our experiencing the Illusion, since the murderer would never experience the consequences of such behaviour. he/she would not learn and evolve. the Creator that is the All would not create a dreamworld to participate within in which its very conscious existence could be snuffed out by its own stupid actions in amnesia.



there are some accurate ideas and inaccurate ones here. again, there is no such thing as a 'bad' anything. "all evil is mere appearance." All is Self.

there are realms of experience you might call 'heaven' and there are also realms you might call 'hell' or 'hellish.' ALL are transitory stops along the way to our destiny (let's not get stuck on what i mean by destiny here). what must be remembered is that the 'afterlife' realms are highly plastic - they are moulded by thought and the contents of our minds. if you believe ardently that you are going to 'hell' for some reason and you have lived a life of darkness or fear, you may experience that when you pass over because you will experience and encounter your own psyche. ultimately, it is all temporary and shall be transcended when the mind realises it is creating its own hell and decides to create consciously instead. alistair crowley is still burning (according to my psychic friend). the reason is that he resonated with darkness and messed with the demonic in this life. hence, he has created his own 'hell' in the astral plane/s. (the lower 'rungs' of the astral are the most unpleasant or 'hellish').

the reason this mafia guy no longer swears at you is because he has obviously not gotten stuck in the hellish filth of the lower astral / the darkness of his own psyche and moved on to bigger and better things. the further you want to go into the afterlife, the more you have to resonate with love. hatred and belligerence will hold you close to the earth plane, so your friend's dad obviously has purged himself of his own darkness. he was never 'bad' - misguided perhaps - but not bad. 'bad' is an arbitrary label that is ultimately meaningless.

we are all 'powerful beings' - moreso if we are conscious of what we truly are.



all of this is possible and/or true. everything is conscious.



doubt i would either. that's a level of sensitivity i don't envy. poor bastard.



interesting, i've never heard of the notion of being able to 'remove' certain thoughts or feelings from someone in this particular manner... doesn't mean it can't happen though.

please don't take this as me being argumentative in any way. i have been accused of being 'blunt' before, and i won't argue that...*grin* i've enjoyed your material so far. look forward to the next instalment.

thats some powerful spiritual knowledge you demonstrate there, how do you know of such things?