my life:reptilians,secret societies,spiritual.....

[kennystetson]

Originally Posted by amabus

Why did you suddenly refer to her as your girlfriend?
"Part 4

The months went by, shit kicked off again a couple of times. One of my gf's body guards got killed (he's not the only one) trying to protect her, this guy was madly in love with her and always had been."

Every other time it's "my ex".

Actually I believe I've mentioned her more than once as my girlfriend through the story, not just that once. I call her my girlfriend sometimes in the text because at that time she was my girlfriend, and using ex can be a bit bland. Note that after the part where I say we split up I do not say girlfriend once.

[bsmurph83]

oh my god! they almost killed kenny!

lol i kill me!

interesting reading, kenny! all very interesting. not an enviable position to be in, really...

[azureangel]

Originally Posted by bsmurph83

i don't want to derail this thread but want to comment on this because it's important. the mainstream world of medicine has no idea what 'schizophrenia' really is. big pharma doesn't care either way - illness means treatment and treatment means profits. a 'sick' population is better than healthy.

to stick to the point: i'm at the point now where i believe most, if not ALL, of the voices schizophrenics hear belong either to fragments of their own psyche that have somehow split, OR, separate attached entities altogether.

please pay attention to the following: if you think you have schizophrenia or know someone who does, look into SPIRIT RELEASEMENT THERAPY (SRT). i have a friend who is psychic but would also hear a lot of nasty voices saying all sorts of unpleasant shit to her. most clueless doctors would have diagnosed her as having schizophrenia because of the way they are brainwashed into the materialistic outlook the pharmaceuticals need them to have. ONE SESSION of the SRT for my friend and the entities responsible were removed and SHE WAS IMMEDIATELY FREE OF THE VOICES.

one session.

no drugs. no side effects. no pain. no more voices. no more dark demonic entities darting about the room waiting to ambush her. one session.

there is more to it than this but i want to comment on other aspects of this thread. please keep SRT in mind and look into it if you or anyone you know have the so-called 'symptoms' of schizophrenia (and want to get rid of them). it doesn't 'treat' - IT CURES, by addressing the cause of the problem. understanding SRT, however, requires at least some kind of solid grounding in metaphysics and a basic understanding of what consciousness is. without that, SRT looks, to the ignorant mind, like complete superstitious quackery. (luckily there aren't too many such minds here!)

Murph

Murph, I have been looking for this SRT for so many years. Too bad I'm on unemployment now. But I will study this and use it if I can. This is a fascinating thread and I'm learning a lot as well as remembering a lot.
Aloha, angel

[snakesnladders]

ah well, i hear voices and wud probably be called schizo if i let anyone diagnose me, which i wont. i also feel close connection with animals and plants and the pain of animals and children/humans really hurts me. i saw a human in a lot of pain once and it nearly made me commit suicide becuz i could feel it. i lie not.
i often feel closer /more in common with animals than humans; or with children. they are simpler, purer, more innocent souls. without evil intent to harm.
i dunno actually if you would call it 'hearing voices' to me it is more like someone is communicating with me by telepathy and other means.

what you say about them being part alien; well, i may have some in me as someone in my family has the vertical pupils icke talks about. i never really gave any thought to the pupils til i found out about icke. fyi: they only go vertical from time to time - usually with negative emotions in the person. other times they look normal/round. interestingly, both on the mother and father's side this person has definitely on one side, aristocratic blood; and on the other side, potentially even more important blood but the family tree link is not as clear cut on this side. they may or may not be. given the pupils i do wonder if they are in fact, as it might explain it i dunno.
i dont have as much blood as this person does and dont have the pupils. also this person is a bit 'autistic' you might say emotionally in some ways. altho that doesnt mean they dont mean well.

dat is all....

goodnite.

in regard to schizophrenia i think there are two possiblities, or three, maybe they are linked. e.g. either there really is communication by telepathy with an alien which i think is quite likely. many schizophrenics have ufo encounters and feel that aliens are responsible/involved. two: the us govt has patents for mind control devices. this is real, you can look it up. instead of locking up these people, maybe society should consider if the govt could be conducting illegal experiments on them/messing with them to develop mind control devices. after all, what are the patents for otherwise ? the govt could also be experimenting with telepathy. this is not that far out there. and its what schizophrenics have been saying is going on for years. govt and/or aliens - possibly both. third; and maybe as well as; perhaps the people have some additional abilities themselves - psychic type abilities etc; or maybe are here to help society in some way - maybe they would have been shamans if this was alaskan society - but instead of listening to stuff they MAY have to say that cud make sense (altho if its mind control experiments, some of it mightnt), they get locked up and patronized by doctors etc.

anyway, my little rant...

[kblood]

I have tried actual telepathy 2 or 3 times. Its quite uncommon in my experience that there are words in telepathy. When its only feelings transfered I would call it empathy. Sometimes its just images or experiences I guess.

It seems most common for me to just be feeling someone elses feelings or sensing. Instead of using words you just know someones intentions.

[morphal]

Nice story - but if you want to publish your fiction you'll have to do a lot more to flesh out the plot. Mostly a lot of rambling so far.

Isn't it interesting that this thread went dead when accused of being fraudulent:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...=75158&page=10

On 9-13-09 around 6:30 pm and exactly 2 days later at the exact same time of day a brand new user shows up with another long and convoluted story?

I think this thread should be in the humor section... Marvin Gaye... JFK... mafia bosses transporting between heaven and earth... lol!!! Thanks for the laughs. The only redeeming factor here has been a few other members have had an interesting discussion on schizophrenia. Cheers!

[kennystetson]

Originally Posted by morphal

Nice story - but if you want to publish your fiction you'll have to do a lot more to flesh out the plot. Mostly a lot of rambling so far.

Isn't it interesting that this thread went dead when accused of being fraudulent:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...=75158&page=10

On 9-13-09 around 6:30 pm and exactly 2 days later at the exact same time of day a brand new user shows up with another long and convoluted story?

I think this thread should be in the humor section... Marvin Gaye... JFK... mafia bosses transporting between heaven and earth... lol!!! Thanks for the laughs. The only redeeming factor here has been a few other members have had an interesting discussion on schizophrenia. Cheers!

Yes I remember reading that thread a month or two ago. I personally think accusing him as being a fraud and pulling his story from out his ass is harsh, especially when there is absolutely nothing to base these accusations on. ESPECIALLY his story as if I remember correctly (I could be wrong I haven't been through that thread in a while) there was nothing he said that seemed to out of the ordinary or that just didn't connect or make sense (unlike my story).
I joined this forum back in April or march which was before this guy posted that story up and just because I do not post often does not mean that I am new to this forum, I just restrain myself from having opinions on things I really know nothing about. Were you trying to insinuate that me and this guy might be the same person? I'm sure if both were compared you'd be able to tell the difference in the way we've written. The only similarity I see from briefly clicking on the link is that we've both divided our stories in parts and named them (part 1, part 2...). Maybe subconsciously I was inspired to write it in parts the same way he did?
I had no disillusions whatsoever before writing this thread that there would be a lot of people calling me a bullshitter. As I've seen on other threads where people have tried to share their experiences (like the one you've just pointed out), other people are always going to accuse people like us of being liars, it's just to be expected. I've learnt to accept now that that's just the way humans are though. A few months back (beginning 09) if I would have started this thread, my emotions would have probably gotten the best of me and I would have just blurted out cuss words at the people that accuse me of being a liar out of frustration and turned an important story from which we could all learn something from in to a pointless rant. Back in January when I was seriously fucked up and confused I really needed to get this shit out of me. Just needed someone to let it out on and I couldn't with my ex because she was apart of it all and I just couldn't talk about it with her without getting really angry and taking out my anger on her which was extremely unfair. Out of weakness I let it slip out on a couple of friends, even family and that completely backfired on me. They knew me well so they knew I wouldn't make that up just for the sake of bullshitting, but there was no question about it after that that I was mentally ill in some way and that my ex was to. This caused me to shut off from everyone and close in on myself, I felt extremely lonely it was horrible. Also as well as being angry about everything that had happened and the people involved I was angry at the world, all of us, just for being so fucking retarded and blind. I actually felt hatred towards 'us' and as a result towards myself.
I'm not trying to get people to feel sorry for me or get any empathy here by the way. Peoples opinions don't effect me any more, I've managed to accept that It just 'is what it is' and me being angry at absolutely everyone isn't going to help. Just realize the effect it can potentially have on people when they get accused of being liars, ill or whatever. It can really fuck someone up and it takes a lot to come out of that emotional mess once your in it.

With regard to the legitimacy of my own story, do you really think that someone would spend that much time making up a story like this (is it even possible to have so much imagination?), that they would then spend hours writing out on the David Icke forum knowing dam well that it will more than likely be dismissed as bullshit by most people (from watching the outcome of similar posts). A lot of effort for something you couldn't quite qualify as "my 5 minutes of fame". Really though, what would be the point?
Also I have done research myself, I know that a lot of this doesn't hold up next to the explanations I have come up across (JFK, going back and forth between heaven and earth...), so why would i make up a story where certain things don't make sense in the first place, surely I would have stuck to the rules to keep myself safe? I'm actually surprised that a lot of people are getting stuck up on one tiny part of the story (JFK) which could simply be explained by : it's probably a lie or an other spirit passing itself as her dad trying to confuse matters so that if revealed the story gets dismissed? It could be absolutely anything! But on the other hand, I explained that someone had the power to make other people complete, fully at one with everything and truly happy within a second and no one has mentioned it as of yet...
Yes your right, the story needs to be fleshed out, that's why I'm here to elaborate as much as I can on the parts you would like to know more about. If i would have written this story and made it complete with absolutely everything that has happened in great detail it would have been three or four times the size and a lot less people would have taken their time to read it. I'm not going anywhere so ask me anything you want.
(about the thread being in the humor section, that's just outright rude)

[bsmurph83]

Originally Posted by morphal

Nice story - but if you want to publish your fiction you'll have to do a lot more to flesh out the plot. Mostly a lot of rambling so far.

harsh, man... a tad harsh. consider the possibility that this actually is all true and what it might be like to be in such a fucked up situation. just the possibility...

and then to have people make those kinds of comments. i mean, i cannot verify any of what kenny is saying about his personal life, but on the off chance it is true, i'd prefer to not to make potentially offensive comments about it...

[morphal]

Originally Posted by kennystetson

Yes I remember reading that thread a month or two ago. I personally think accusing him as being a fraud and pulling his story from out his ass is harsh, especially when there is absolutely nothing to base these accusations on. ESPECIALLY his story as if I remember correctly (I could be wrong I haven't been through that thread in a while) there was nothing he said that seemed to out of the ordinary or that just didn't connect or make sense (unlike my story).

After accusations of being a fraud, he never came back to defend himself, that speaks in volumes, when he continually defended himself against accusations of drugs causing mental illness.

I joined this forum back in April or march which was before this guy posted that story up and just because I do not post often does not mean that I am new to this forum, I just restrain myself from having opinions on things I really know nothing about. Were you trying to insinuate that me and this guy might be the same person? I'm sure if both were compared you'd be able to tell the difference in the way we've written. The only similarity I see from briefly clicking on the link is that we've both divided our stories in parts and named them (part 1, part 2...). Maybe subconsciously I was inspired to write it in parts the same way he did?

Not insinuating anything, just a possible similar M.O.

Out of weakness I let it slip out on a couple of friends, even family and that completely backfired on me. They knew me well so they knew I wouldn't make that up just for the sake of bullshitting, but there was no question about it after that that I was mentally ill in some way and that my ex was to. This caused me to shut off from everyone and close in on myself, I felt extremely lonely it was horrible. Also as well as being angry about everything that had happened and the people involved I was angry at the world, all of us, just for being so fucking retarded and blind. I actually felt hatred towards 'us' and as a result towards myself.

IMO if you're not here intentionally to deceive, then you are either being mind-f--d or mentally ill having been sucked into another person's own delusions - it can and does happen. Folie a deux.

With regard to the legitimacy of my own story, do you really think that someone would spend that much time making up a story like this (is it even possible to have so much imagination?), that they would then spend hours writing out on the David Icke forum knowing dam well that it will more than likely be dismissed as bullshit by most people (from watching the outcome of similar posts). A lot of effort for something you couldn't quite qualify as "my 5 minutes of fame". Really though, what would be the point?

Yes people can and do that sort of thing all the time which is why I brought up the other thread as a possible example of just that, or at least that's what's michaelchristopher believes so strongly. Yes, of course it's possible to have that much imagination, how do you think fiction is created? And why post it in a forum and try to pass it off as a true story? A sick sense of superiority, having a laugh at all the naive people that were sucked into believing some crazy story was reality and the truth.

I'm not going anywhere so ask me anything you want.
(about the thread being in the humor section, that's just outright rude)

If I were to spend more time on your story I would go through all of it piece by piece and point out the inconsistencies and fallacies. The humour section - well if it doesn't contribute any truth to reptilian research, threads usually go in the rants section or humour section. Sorry if that offends you, it just doesn't pass my 'truth detector'.

[kennystetson]

Originally Posted by morphal

After accusations of being a fraud, he never came back to defend himself, that speaks in volumes, when he continually defended himself against accusations of drugs causing mental illness.

I perfectly understand why he wouldn't want to come back and defend himself, there could have been many reasons for that. Are you mentally ill? if not then how can you possibly know what being mentally ill is? I would agree that drugs can in some circumstances leave you pretty unbalanced, though for them to actually make you what you would describe as 'mentally ill' is very rare (depending on the drug). People will blame anything on things they don't understand. Was it weed? I smoke a lot to, if you believe green could make a guy come up with a story like this, that's more laughable than my story (I didn't say you did, it's just you didn't mention what 'drug' and I remember him saying something about weed). But if it is that, then there you go, my whole story and where it comes from will probably make sense to you now.

Originally Posted by morphal

If I were to spend more time on your story I would go through all of it piece by piece and point out the inconsistencies and fallacies.

That's exactly what the thread is here for, debate.

Originally Posted by morphal

The humour section - well if it doesn't contribute any truth to reptilian research, threads usually go in the rants section or humour section. Sorry if that offends you, it just doesn't pass my 'truth detector'

Some of the guys on here pointed out a few things that were helpful to me, so that in itself has made it worthwhile. And there is a lot here that I believe is very valuable information that I've heard no one talk about before, just because I might have misinterpreted it or not quite understood does not mean it never happened. All it takes is that one person who can relate (or not) to one small part through their own experience and for them to share that on here for it to contribute to truth.
For me who knew nothing about any of this stuff before, I found there was a lot more information that I came across through all this that fitted perfectly (down to the tinniest of details) with what people like David Icke were saying than information that didn't make sense. Only I haven't written down what I was taught that we already know on here because that would be pointless, what would we learn from it then?
And don't worry about offending me, it's all good.

[azureangel]

It's all about love, support, caring, information. Some things we see might not match what others see. Kenny, just ignore the bs, that's all it is. You continue to take care of yourself. I suspect you are a young person and you are evidencing a high level of growth and self-monitoring. I find your story riveting for this reason more than anything. You are brave and loving and deserve support. If people want to drool over rubbish and fantastic stories and lies, they need go no farther than their own television,movies and newspapers. (a friendly suggestion to those who want to hassle Light workers;we go WAY outside the "hassle-free zone". If you don't like that, then don't come here). This forum is for people who are brave enough to hold and share the truth as they experience it. Truth=Light= Information.
Love, angel

[nicholaq]

Well said azureangel. Kenny this is your truth and that is all that matters. x

[kennystetson]

Thank you for your kind words azurangel, much love to you.

I want to quickly rectify a part that I discussed that I now realize I misunderstood by talking to my ex about some of the things that have been said here.
When you kill someone you do not instantly loose your soul and you can not destroy it either, that was a mistake on my part and I do apologize. She said that by killing someone you can seriously harm your soul, it's like chipping parts of your soul off. You don't destroy it, but you can break it. If you were to kill someone your soul wouldn't leave your body but if you were for example to kill people for a living you would seriously harm it. My ex described it as 'Chipping away' at it. It would (in most cases) gradually get smaller (or weaker?) and eventually leave your body (not destroy itself).

Also about the coming back and forth between heaven and earth, I agree that souls that have left the physical body are not meant to be able to come and go. Though the concept of it is not impossible. One of the ways that my ex can communicate with "them" up there is by seeking out a soul that has just left its current body and is about to reincarnate. The soul can only go back and forth between her and "up there" or "heaven" (whatever one wants to call it) if she gets it to go to her just before it is sent to a new body. If done in that way it is possible.

[shenoma]

What's the point of belittling this person? He didn't come here for a debate, he just needed to get his personal story out. If you don't like move on, it's better just to ignore this kind of thing if you find you don't like it. Why be rude to him for no good reason other to get a few luzl for yourself? He doesn't need that from anyone. It would be different if he came here and said "let's debate this".

[passing]

Originally Posted by shenoma

What's the point of belittling this person?

Quite.

I'm a long way from being able to confirm or deny any of this thread's story, but I do suspect that the travelling to 'heaven' and back meets with such immediate resistance because people think of physical places and physical travel.

Interesting discussion of schizophrenia.

All the best, Kenny!

[suicidal_martyr]

Originally Posted by shenoma

What's the point of belittling this person?

To feel intelligent and hope others see you as intelligent.

It's out of annoyance due to lack of proof. I can't say whether I believe or not so with that said it would be out of place to be critical because no one really knows. All anyone can do is nit pick at shit they find to be contradicting and use it as a means to ridicule you, or prove to themselves that you are lying, or make them selves feel intelligent. I learned that from experience. LOL Shame on me...but now at least I see it. Any other reason is pure criticism out of annoyance.

[kennystetson]

Originally Posted by suicidal_martyr

To feel intelligent and hope others see you as intelligent.

It's out of annoyance due to lack of proof. I can't say whether I believe or not so with that said it would be out of place to be critical because no one really knows. All anyone can do is nit pick at shit they find to be contradicting and use it as a means to ridicule you, or prove to themselves that you are lying, or make them selves feel intelligent. I learned that from experience. LOL Shame on me...but now at least I see it. Any other reason is pure criticism out of annoyance.

yea your right, I don't mind that though because if people point out the things that contradict themselves it gets me that one step closer towards understanding it all myself because I get it from a different perspective.

[mark1963]

Kenny, very interesting thread and well done for getting it out. Have you had anymore insights in the last couple of days. It would be very interesting.

[darketernal]

Subscribing so that I will remember to read through this thread later.

[kennystetson]

Originally Posted by mark1963

Have you had anymore insights in the last couple of days. It would be very interesting.

Yes more has come to surface since this thread, though I'm not sure exactly what they've been trying to do and how, still trying to figure it all out, though it's a lot harder to figure things out because we are on our own to figure things out now.
They've been trying to get to her from the inside by somehow trapping her spirit somewhere where she can not find it and replacing it with an other spirit.
This completely changed her personality and as far as I know they did it so that the spirit they replaced hers with would make her want to see/fall in love/have feelings for this guy she's been seeing.

This guy I'm talking about we both met him a few months back (end of July) when he was meant to be be on a job body-guarding her (that he fucked up royally). He 'magically' fell in love with her whilst on the job and they started seeing each other as friends shortly after. His feelings were genuine though as my ex could feel them from inside him. This guy has also been brainwashed and certain parts of his memory have been erased.

I believe this is why they wanted my ex to have feelings for him and that they tried to do so by swapping her spirit round . Because they could control him without him even knowing, if they could get my ex to love him they would be able to get to her/manipulate her whenever needed for what ever reason they needed because they know she would do anything for the person she loves.

Because of her personality change and her having feelings for him for no reason we knew something was wrong and sure enough when tried to speak to her spirit she felt that it wasn't there where it was meant to be and felt the presence of an other spirit inside her. As this other spirit was not an 'evil' spirit (otherwise it would not have been able to stay inside her because of her vibration) she managed to convince it to leave by showing it visions of her own future and the things that were to happen (we think anyway as the spirit refused to speak to her, it just left one day).

Her feelings for this other guy immediately disappeared, it was very strange, almost scary. Honestly the spirit she had inside her really managed to overpower her. She had to fight so hard to be able to tell this other guy she couldn't see him anymore and it wasn't even because she really wanted to see him, she simply couldn't, this spirit had become apart of her and was therefore representative of her own free will.
Since the spirit has gone though she has cut all contact with this guy and does not miss him any more than the fact that he was good company to be around.

I don't know wether or not this guy was willingly apart of it all or if he was being used unknowingly, but I do know it was dangerous for her to be around him. He still tries to contact her though because he loves her, so obviously he misses her. And that love was definitely real, as far as I know you can not fake the feeling/emotion of love, especially when you are around someone like my ex that can feel someone else's emotions.

So anyway, we are still left with the problem that my ex can not find or feel her own spirit anymore, without her spirit she cannot communicate with anything that is not apart of herself (her spirit guide, other spirits or souls...) and she can not receive any of the visions she has when she is going to be in danger so that she can change the course of what happens before it does... quite scary
I started a new thread on a different part of the forum recently just asking if anyone can help with finding her spirit if anyone here has any ideas here is the link:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87840