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Old 14-09-2009, 05:57 PM   #41
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Hmmm maybe. But I wouldnt say that news articles from the mainstream media are reliable evidence.
Well if they wanted to shame black people, they would of simply stated that they where black.
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Old 14-09-2009, 06:02 PM   #42
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Well if they wanted to shame black people, they would of simply stated that they where black.
We dont know what colour (or who) they were. That's the point.
Let's get over this colour thing eh ?
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Old 14-09-2009, 06:25 PM   #43
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We dont know what colour (or who) they were. That's the point.
Let's get over this colour thing eh ?

This is a sad one

Nah you are reading me wrong if you think i am trying to make some bnp statement, i am way above that, its just most of the evidence points that it was a black on black shooting. Put somebody in the conditions of high relative poverty, and surrounded by violence from a young age, not failing to mention selling hard drugs to middle class kids earning a large wage, who can blame them really. But yes you go to liverpool and you will find white kids shooting and stabbing eachother, and if you go to somewhere like tower hamlets in east london, you will find asian kids shooting and stabbing eachother, its not somethign that is just kept to one race, where there is poverty, drugs whatever they maybe, and weapons its a lethal combination. Alot of the time its the "elders" who manipulate the kids into getting in these petty gang wars that are between streets and council estates, because they want more ground to covered to sell their product.

Yes its structural failings without a doubt, and they can create cultrual failings in certain areas, but then again they have to take responsbility, i know many good friends of mine who took the high road and not the low road. Sure enough those who went out dealing drugs and robbing people, get some short term respect which in reality is fear, and more money than those who choose to stay on in education or get some unglamourous job, but then again who is going to get bad karma and end up in prison or dead ??? hmmm

I have said this before and i will say it again, i am suprised that there is little mention to the amount of shootings that really go on, judging by some of the comments on this topic, i take it quite a few of the users on here don't live in these areas, or know about this subject, but its bad out there. Its not like los angeles or mexico city but for a country that has tight gun restrictions, you know what i am going to say then again most of the kids are rubbish shots and carry poorly made weapons. Knives are something else, yet that is a problem that can't be solved, with police intervention, as you can't exactly cut off knife dealers", as anyone has a knife in their kitchen .

Something i and many other people have realised is that its a joint effort to stop gangs, you need police, social services, education, communities, individuals to make a joint effort, which in some cities and communities they are doing, to rid the streets with this problem. I mean you have the hardcore gun men which are lost now, but you want to aim at the ones who are really young, even kids at the age of ten are too late to rescued if you want to put it like that. Before the gang culture, the whole idea of respect" kicks in you need to get them before that, realise how true respect can be gained in other ways, more male role models are needed.
I mean for the benefit of the doubt, i am not talking about the spoilt kids in surrey or kent or whatever, who get tipsy and aggressive at weekends, they will grow out of it, and go in thier parents pocket to get a law or social degree or whatever, i am talking about the kids living in the shit.
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Old 15-09-2009, 12:16 PM   #44
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We dont know what colour (or who) they were. That's the point.
Let's get over this colour thing eh ?
When people of one colour are 10 to 20 times more likely to rape, shoot, stab or mug someone than people of another colour I would say that anyone who tries to brush that fact under the carpet has an agenda. Surely any sane, responsible person would want to find out why and come up with an idea to solve the problem rather than try to hide it so that thousands more people can be mugged, raped, shot and stabbed, whilst we deny the problem exists due to political correctness.

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Drive by shooter caught on CCTV



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/8256248.stm

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Old 15-09-2009, 08:59 PM   #45
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This is a sad one

Nah you are reading me wrong if you think i am trying to make some bnp statement, i am way above that, its just most of the evidence points that it was a black on black shooting. Put somebody in the conditions of high relative poverty, and surrounded by violence from a young age, not failing to mention selling hard drugs to middle class kids earning a large wage, who can blame them really. But yes you go to liverpool and you will find white kids shooting and stabbing eachother, and if you go to somewhere like tower hamlets in east london, you will find asian kids shooting and stabbing eachother, its not somethign that is just kept to one race, where there is poverty, drugs whatever they maybe, and weapons its a lethal combination. Alot of the time its the "elders" who manipulate the kids into getting in these petty gang wars that are between streets and council estates, because they want more ground to covered to sell their product.

Yes its structural failings without a doubt, and they can create cultrual failings in certain areas, but then again they have to take responsbility, i know many good friends of mine who took the high road and not the low road. Sure enough those who went out dealing drugs and robbing people, get some short term respect which in reality is fear, and more money than those who choose to stay on in education or get some unglamourous job, but then again who is going to get bad karma and end up in prison or dead ??? hmmm

I have said this before and i will say it again, i am suprised that there is little mention to the amount of shootings that really go on, judging by some of the comments on this topic, i take it quite a few of the users on here don't live in these areas, or know about this subject, but its bad out there. Its not like los angeles or mexico city but for a country that has tight gun restrictions, you know what i am going to say then again most of the kids are rubbish shots and carry poorly made weapons. Knives are something else, yet that is a problem that can't be solved, with police intervention, as you can't exactly cut off knife dealers", as anyone has a knife in their kitchen .

Something i and many other people have realised is that its a joint effort to stop gangs, you need police, social services, education, communities, individuals to make a joint effort, which in some cities and communities they are doing, to rid the streets with this problem. I mean you have the hardcore gun men which are lost now, but you want to aim at the ones who are really young, even kids at the age of ten are too late to rescued if you want to put it like that. Before the gang culture, the whole idea of respect" kicks in you need to get them before that, realise how true respect can be gained in other ways, more male role models are needed.
I mean for the benefit of the doubt, i am not talking about the spoilt kids in surrey or kent or whatever, who get tipsy and aggressive at weekends, they will grow out of it, and go in thier parents pocket to get a law or social degree or whatever, i am talking about the kids living in the shit.
Well put my friend.
It's the news cover that makes it seam as if it's all new , stuff has been going on for years. Luckily they still stick to knives most of the time where im from , but the steady increase in guns going about , profit to be made in drug's and no one wanting to look like a cunt we are going to give the media a whole lot more storys to cherry pic from.

As has been said threwout the topic if trident is involved im sure they handle black on black crime.
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Old 15-09-2009, 09:24 PM   #46
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Drive by shooter caught on CCTV


Looks like my local perp! Wonder why he chose to stick his whole body out...must be that confident? LOL
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They most likely will be as one being North london and secondly the most obvious sign is that the incident is being investigated by operation trident. The met police's anti black on black gun crime unit.
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ATTENTION EVERYONE !!!
related to this article, they where commited by black youths, as its being investigated by operation trident, a unit set up to deal with black on black gun crime in london. Case closed.

Its the same as when you go to liverpool you will find white kids shooting eachother. London's inner cities have large black populations so obviously shootings and other such crime is going to be commited by black people in these black areas, and criminals in white areas will most likely be white.
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Appeal on restaurant shootings

POLICE have issued a fresh appeal for information following a double shooting in a St John’s Wood restaurant on June 26.
Officers from Operation Trident are understood to be working on the theory that the shooting in Harry Morgan restaurant was the work of hitmen, and not a “postcode” youth gang as first suspected.
You mean to say that operation trident is exclusively black? From what I posted, your assumption is dubious.

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In 2004 it expanded with the formation of Operation Trafalgar which investigates all other non-fatal shootings in London.
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