JonBenet Ramsey - WTF Happened?

tinmenace · 18-08-2007, 03:19 AM

This is one of those mysteries that I just cannot forget. It's the same as the girls taken by Gert Van Rooyen in South Africa. They're never far from my thoughts. Anyway, I never thought that JonBenet was murdered by her parents. There was no real evidence to prove it was them, and besides who would choke their own child with a garrotte, and then smash her head in with a golf club? I mean, how cruel and sadistic! So, I just never thought it could be them. However, I am reading a book called Thanks For The Memories and I now have a completely different opinion about this case.

I'm going to research it further, because it doesn't seem so complicated anymore. Brice Taylor (Susan Ford) talks about beauty pageants being a kind of meat market where children are "sponsored" (sold). JonBenet was found in her own home with a garrotte around her neck (torture device). So, is it possible that her parents were involved in some kind of mind-control program?

But the reason I actually started this thread is that while reading about JonBenet's father John Ramsey, I discovered that he is dating the mother of missing (and probably dead) Natalee Holloway. Nothing wrong with that, but I guess it just surprised me.

joejam · 10-11-2007, 01:53 AM

JonBenet's case has been one that I have followed since the beginning. I would go back and forth on who was responsible....intruder or parent/family. Well now that I have recenty begin researching all of this, no wonder it hasn't been solved!!!!! No wonder! Patsy, JonBenet's mom was a beauty pageant queen, as well as JonBenet's aunt Pam....and JonBenet no less was being raised as one. John, JonBenet's dad was in the Navy. He owned a successful Computer business at the time of the crime. His oldest daughter Beth had died a few years earlier in a car crash...some say she, as well as JonBenet had visions/dreams of people in black overcoats coming to their bedside and Beth was just remembering these when she died.

I have heard the Natalie Holloway said that her mom was related to Hitler....
and John and Beth are dating? What is up with that?

I do visit a site called coffeepotghost....used to be about evp's, but now....those evp's discuss aliens, cannabilism and the like......

interesting indeed...

I do feel now I know what happened to JonBenet.

Has anyone been to reverse speech site?

joejam · 10-11-2007, 03:21 AM

What do you guys think about Laci Peterson, Chandra Levy and Natalie Holloway? Esp. in Aruba, Southern California?
What now about Madeliene Mccann? Something is up and will be exposed.......

tinmenace · 10-11-2007, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by joejam

What do you guys think about Laci Peterson, Chandra Levy and Natalie Holloway? Esp. in Aruba, Southern California?
What now about Madeliene Mccann? Something is up and will be exposed.......

Chandra Levy

joejam · 10-11-2007, 04:38 AM

Thank you for the link Tinmenace.......
Kind of crazy ....huh? No one believes me or even listens to me....
In my life, it is all about Christianity and the like.......I do not deny Christ...but give up the dogma.....I can remember when those that smoked and danced were going to Hell......
I just want someone to talk to .....and beat these guys/gals...whatever, I do not care...Tired...Tired.

joejam · 25-11-2007, 04:26 AM

I am not being trying to be judgemental here....but maybe I am......
On the sites of JonBenet, most think it was a Ramsey. Then others think it it was an intruder. I have been looking for somewhere to go where I know the truth....or believe I do. I do like reading here....but I see the same thing here as I do everywhere else....bickering and who is right........what is the truth? Who is the truth? No one I guess. It is up to me to figure it out.

You all know who read here the truth...Do you not?

joejam · 14-12-2007, 04:19 AM

I read here often.....and enjoy it....but will someone else tell me their thoughts on this.
This is one of the top unsolved crimes of the century......
oh now we are in to another Peterson, well okay....
but this child was a robitron or whatever...and was sacrificied and I can get no one to believe me or even converse with me about it.

tinmenace · 14-12-2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by joejam

I read here often.....and enjoy it....but will someone else tell me their thoughts on this.
This is one of the top unsolved crimes of the century......
oh now we are in to another Peterson, well okay....
but this child was a robitron or whatever...and was sacrificied and I can get no one to believe me or even converse with me about it.

Totally ritualistic, imo. Christmas eve? Hmm...

Inside the house? Hmmm

Child molesters almost ALWAYS remove the children from the house, unless they also live in the house...in fact I don't think I've heard of a stranger staying inside the house to torture a child.

I think that there was another person there, but WITH the permission of the parents.

joejam · 14-12-2007, 02:25 PM

thank you tin.....I believe that too

nuit · 28-12-2007, 09:02 PM

i remember watching a quite in depth programme on the jonbenet ramsey murder, i think it was on discovery channel, if i can find a link to it anywhere i will put it up.They seemed to in this programme completely quash the theory with facts and other dna evidence that the parents killed her.

28-12-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nuit

i remember watching a quite in depth programme on the jonbenet ramsey murder, i think it was on discovery channel, if i can find a link to it anywhere i will put it up.They seemed to in this programme completely quash the theory with facts and other dna evidence that the parents killed her.

FYI
I have read many other sources that say Natalie Holloway was sold into white slavery/prostitution in South America. JonBenet & Maddie were ritual sacrifice. Chandra Levy killed because she was actually a Mossad cross agent or something like that. So, the CA senator wasn't playin her but she was using him.
True or not??? who knows but another viewpoint at best!

phildee3 · 29-12-2007, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinmenace

Totally ritualistic, imo. Christmas eve? Hmm...

Inside the house? Hmmm

Child molesters almost ALWAYS remove the children from the house, unless they also live in the house...in fact I don't think I've heard of a stranger staying inside the house to torture a child.

I think that there was another person there, but WITH the permission of the parents.

This is correct, according to the Akashic records.

phildee3 · 29-12-2007, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joejam

I am not being trying to be judgemental here....but maybe I am......
On the sites of JonBenet, most think it was a Ramsey. Then others think it it was an intruder. I have been looking for somewhere to go where I know the truth....or believe I do. I do like reading here....but I see the same thing here as I do everywhere else....bickering and who is right........what is the truth? Who is the truth? No one I guess. It is up to me to figure it out.

You all know who read here the truth...Do you not?

Relax joejam.
Take an hour out to hear this man explain who Truth is:
http://video.google.com/googleplayer...41969872696254

joejam · 06-01-2008, 11:28 PM

Thanks phildee3. Can you tell me more about the Akashic records? esp. concerning JonBenet?

phildee3 · 07-01-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joejam

Thanks phildee3. Can you tell me more about the Akashic records? esp. concerning JonBenet?

Everything that has ever happened has imprinted itself on the aether.
With clairsentience, one can "read" this information as if the aether were a parchment.
These are the "Akashic records."
The best and safest way that I know of, to develop clairsentience, is by studying the work of Rudolf Steiner; specifically "How to Know Higher Worlds" but also by reading his philosophy generally.

I cannot be specific about JonBenet unless you ask a specific question.

joejam · 16-01-2008, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phildee3

Everything that has ever happened has imprinted itself on the aether.
With clairsentience, one can "read" this information as if the aether were a parchment.
These are the "Akashic records."
The best and safest way that I know of, to develop clairsentience, is by studying the work of Rudolf Steiner; specifically "How to Know Higher Worlds" but also by reading his philosophy generally.

I cannot be specific about JonBenet unless you ask a specific question.

Who was her killer? (An idea anyways, if you can't incriminate yourself) Was it intentional? If so, why? What was to be gained by the sacrifice?

joejam · 16-01-2008, 01:33 AM

Thanks for the info on Rudolf Steiner.

phildee3 · 16-01-2008, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joejam

Who was her killer? (An idea anyways, if you can't incriminate yourself) Was it intentional? If so, why? What was to be gained by the sacrifice?

You and tinmenace are both correct so far.
The "intruder" was an "uncle."
They were all role playing and it got out of hand.
It wasn't a cold-blooded kind of "intentional" sacrifice like Maddie.
Quite the opposite, in fact.

tinmenace · 16-01-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phildee3

The "intruder" was an "uncle."
They were all role playing and it got out of hand.
It wasn't a cold-blooded kind of "intentional" sacrifice like Maddie.
Quite the opposite, in fact.

Yep, someone the child knew. She even ate some pineapple with him.

phildee3 · 16-01-2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinmenace

Yep, someone the child knew. She even ate some pineapple with him.

She was not a child.
Not in the role-playing scenario, anyway,
and that was their reality,
one that we must accept if we are to understand what happened.

18-08-2007, 03:19 AM	#1
tinmenace Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,790	JonBenet Ramsey - WTF Happened? This is one of those mysteries that I just cannot forget. It's the same as the girls taken by Gert Van Rooyen in South Africa. They're never far from my thoughts. Anyway, I never thought that JonBenet was murdered by her parents. There was no real evidence to prove it was them, and besides who would choke their own child with a garrotte, and then smash her head in with a golf club? I mean, how cruel and sadistic! So, I just never thought it could be them. However, I am reading a book called Thanks For The Memories and I now have a completely different opinion about this case. I'm going to research it further, because it doesn't seem so complicated anymore. Brice Taylor (Susan Ford) talks about beauty pageants being a kind of meat market where children are "sponsored" (sold). JonBenet was found in her own home with a garrotte around her neck (torture device). So, is it possible that her parents were involved in some kind of mind-control program? But the reason I actually started this thread is that while reading about JonBenet's father John Ramsey, I discovered that he is dating the mother of missing (and probably dead) Natalee Holloway. Nothing wrong with that, but I guess it just surprised me.

10-11-2007, 01:53 AM	#2
joejam Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43	JonBenet's case has been one that I have followed since the beginning. I would go back and forth on who was responsible....intruder or parent/family. Well now that I have recenty begin researching all of this, no wonder it hasn't been solved!!!!! No wonder! Patsy, JonBenet's mom was a beauty pageant queen, as well as JonBenet's aunt Pam....and JonBenet no less was being raised as one. John, JonBenet's dad was in the Navy. He owned a successful Computer business at the time of the crime. His oldest daughter Beth had died a few years earlier in a car crash...some say she, as well as JonBenet had visions/dreams of people in black overcoats coming to their bedside and Beth was just remembering these when she died. I have heard the Natalie Holloway said that her mom was related to Hitler.... and John and Beth are dating? What is up with that? I do visit a site called coffeepotghost....used to be about evp's, but now....those evp's discuss aliens, cannabilism and the like...... interesting indeed... I do feel now I know what happened to JonBenet. Has anyone been to reverse speech site?

10-11-2007, 03:21 AM	#3
joejam Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43	What do you guys think about Laci Peterson, Chandra Levy and Natalie Holloway? Esp. in Aruba, Southern California? What now about Madeliene Mccann? Something is up and will be exposed.......

10-11-2007, 04:38 AM	#5
joejam Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43	Thank you for the link Tinmenace....... Kind of crazy ....huh? No one believes me or even listens to me.... In my life, it is all about Christianity and the like.......I do not deny Christ...but give up the dogma.....I can remember when those that smoked and danced were going to Hell...... I just want someone to talk to .....and beat these guys/gals...whatever, I do not care...Tired...Tired.

25-11-2007, 04:26 AM	#6
joejam Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43	I am not being trying to be judgemental here....but maybe I am...... On the sites of JonBenet, most think it was a Ramsey. Then others think it it was an intruder. I have been looking for somewhere to go where I know the truth....or believe I do. I do like reading here....but I see the same thing here as I do everywhere else....bickering and who is right........what is the truth? Who is the truth? No one I guess. It is up to me to figure it out. You all know who read here the truth...Do you not?

14-12-2007, 04:19 AM	#7
joejam Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43	I read here often.....and enjoy it....but will someone else tell me their thoughts on this. This is one of the top unsolved crimes of the century...... oh now we are in to another Peterson, well okay.... but this child was a robitron or whatever...and was sacrificied and I can get no one to believe me or even converse with me about it.

14-12-2007, 02:25 PM	#9
joejam Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43	thank you tin.....I believe that too

28-12-2007, 09:02 PM	#10
nuit Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,660	i remember watching a quite in depth programme on the jonbenet ramsey murder, i think it was on discovery channel, if i can find a link to it anywhere i will put it up.They seemed to in this programme completely quash the theory with facts and other dna evidence that the parents killed her.

06-01-2008, 11:28 PM	#14
joejam Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43	Thanks phildee3. Can you tell me more about the Akashic records? esp. concerning JonBenet?

16-01-2008, 01:33 AM	#17
joejam Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43	Thanks for the info on Rudolf Steiner.