Illuminati Killed Michael Jackson

[lovely one]

Originally Posted by andiliz

People haven't been posting much on this thread lets keep this thread going!

Yeah.....sometimes I am just numb.
I miss Michael. I was watching Paris on Ellen...what do you think about PPB being so much in public eye ? idk
I guess it was expected. But, however...Paris is a gorgeous girl, very well raised and well spoken.
It seems that they will really folow Michael"s footsteps. Just let them be aware of a dirty Hollywood.

[gwynned]

Originally Posted by lovely one

Yeah.....sometimes I am just numb.
I miss Michael. I was watching Paris on Ellen...what do you think about PPB being so much in public eye ? idk
I guess it was expected. But, however...Paris is a gorgeous girl, very well raised and well spoken.
It seems that they will really folow Michael"s footsteps. Just let them be aware of a dirty Hollywood.

I am sure they are VERY aware of the dark side of Hollywood. What I am appreciating is how well they reflect on their dad and how well adjusted, confident and happy they seem. I don't think anyone could suggest otherwise, even the haters.

They say an apple does not fall far from the tree..... If Michael were such a monster or bizarre character, how then explain the behavior of his three children?

[lovely one]

Right. But some say that they turned OK despite the way they were raised....
I honestly wonder why all the hate ????? If you look at Michael - he never did wrong...he really cared about this shity world and wanted to make it better.
I mean, I know that it is possible - but why was he ridiculed so much , why in the world they did anything possible to bring him down ?! Unbelivable.
I love him since 1982 and I have witnessed the change in the media. In the 80"es - Michael was THE KING. He was on top of the world. Even in the media. Then , slowly - things started to change. Why ? Because he was like no one before. He was the king of the world. And imagine - he was bringing peace and love. Of course he had to be ruined.
As much as I believe Michael tought them well......his beautiful kids could be in danger, also.

[andiliz]

Originally Posted by lovely one

Yeah.....sometimes I am just numb.
I miss Michael. I was watching Paris on Ellen...what do you think about PPB being so much in public eye ? idk
I guess it was expected. But, however...Paris is a gorgeous girl, very well raised and well spoken.
It seems that they will really folow Michael"s footsteps. Just let them be aware of a dirty Hollywood.

I'm not sure Michael would want his daughter Paris in the spotlight so young. Paris Jackson is a gorgeous girl though as you say intelligent, well spoken, kind very well brought up!

[lovely one]

Her Twitter pictures are all over and all kind of people are commenting them.
I am sure Michael would not want THAT.
If I was responsible for those kids , I would not allow her to be on those " social networks " so much. idk
I have my own issues with fb , so......

[divineshadow]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/arnold...35147169832152

[lovely one]

On some other boards there are Paris"s tweets about the Illuminati and her father. I don"t know what to think about her going out in the open like this....
Could she be in danger ? But it is good that she has an open mind about the stuff. What will become of all this ?
She is making a movie about saving this planet and talking about a conspiracy.

One question.....is Michael"s name ingraved on his grave yet ?

[indigoxo]

I think a lot of the Jackson family think there was a conspiracy to kill Michael. La Toya doesn't hide this. Also we can see from Michael's nieces and nephews Randy jr., Donte, Genevieve, Jaafar that they believe in many various 'conspiracies', like such that are posted on this forum... chemtrails, hollow earth, illuminati, etc. Donte has actually posted David Icke videos on this twitter and tumblr. Out of them, Genevieve and Randy jr. have tweeted that Conrad Murray is only the beginning of the people who should go down for the death of Michael, and hinted at conspiracy. Jaafar has explicitly pointed to the 'illuminati', last year or the year before he posted a YouTube video stating the illuminati killed Michael Jackson.

And yes, let's talk about PARIS..she tweets about the illuminati often, and on both her official twitter, and the one her and her friend set up (parisjfacts) she has talked about KNOWING the illuminati killed her dad. someone asked her a question about it and used the word 'think' , the reply was that she doesn't 'think' it she KNOWS it. She favourited one of Omer Bhatti's tweets (realobee) that 4 years isn't enough for that coward. Why did obee use the word 'coward'? He believes Murray was used as a pawn and isn't exposing the truth? Has anyone seen Paris's Illuminati-related drawings that she posts on her instagram? This girl has beliefs and isn't afraid to put them out into the open. I'm quite worried for her in a number of ways... she will be mocked & deemed crazy... and possibly on the other side, her life could be in danger.

I don't know if there was a conspiracy involved in Michael's death or if the 'illuminati' was involved, but I know he spoke about conspiracies against him and was in fear of his and his kids lives. He thought he was going to be murdered. At some point he didn't eat or even drink for fear he would be poisoned... he was hospitalised because of this.

[gwynned]

Originally Posted by indigoxo

I think a lot of the Jackson family think there was a conspiracy to kill Michael. La Toya doesn't hide this. Also we can see from Michael's nieces and nephews Randy jr., Donte, Genevieve, Jaafar that they believe in many various 'conspiracies', like such that are posted on this forum... chemtrails, hollow earth, illuminati, etc. Donte has actually posted David Icke videos on this twitter and tumblr. Out of them, Genevieve and Randy jr. have tweeted that Conrad Murray is only the beginning of the people who should go down for the death of Michael, and hinted at conspiracy. Jaafar has explicitly pointed to the 'illuminati', last year or the year before he posted a YouTube video stating the illuminati killed Michael Jackson.

And yes, let's talk about PARIS..she tweets about the illuminati often, and on both her official twitter, and the one her and her friend set up (parisjfacts) she has talked about KNOWING the illuminati killed her dad. someone asked her a question about it and used the word 'think' , the reply was that she doesn't 'think' it she knows it. Has anyone seen Paris's Illuminati-related drawings that she posts on her instagram? This girl has beliefs and isn't afraid to put them out into the open. I'm quite worried for her in a number of ways... she will be mocked & deemed crazy... and possibly on the other side, her life could be in danger.

I don't know if there was a conspiracy involved in Michael's death or if the 'illuminati' was involved, but I know he spoke about conspiracies against him and was in fear of his and his kids lives. He thought he was going to be murdered. At some point he didn't eat or even drink for fear he would be poisoned... he was hospitalised because of this.

Your first post, I see!

While the Illuminati might have killed the Pop Star, they did not kill The Man, though they may have wanted to, whoever 'they' are.

Why do you think Michael removed the masks from his kids 2 weeks before he disappeared.....I mean 'died.'? If Paris were really concerned with the Illuminati, why does she always seem so relaxed and happy? I never see the least bit of anger or hurt on her face. In fact, she looks more like the cat who swallowed the mouse.

[lovely one]

True. I wish you would elaborate on your opinions more...they are very interesting. Tell us more, please !
Anyway...it is quite significant that Michael told Paris more than once : If something happens to me...etc.
People who are seeing Michael as a super star who got cought in drug addictions and died because of it should really digg deeper.
If nothing else , listen to his own words. Yes, there is a chance Paris will be called a looney. All ppl that think for themselves are called that.
Remember that ppl who said Earth is round were ridiculed at one point...
So, who knows. There are so many shit going on and I do worry : will the truth come out ? When ? I hope one day.
My brain is about to explode because of MJ...I remember when Dangerous came out in 1991, I guess hardly anything was spoken about Illuminati and secret societies and stuff, am I right ? At least , not in the open.
Just look at the cover of that album. MJ surely had a VISION:

[andiliz]

Originally Posted by indigoxo

I think a lot of the Jackson family think there was a conspiracy to kill Michael. La Toya doesn't hide this. Also we can see from Michael's nieces and nephews Randy jr., Donte, Genevieve, Jaafar that they believe in many various 'conspiracies', like such that are posted on this forum... chemtrails, hollow earth, illuminati, etc. Donte has actually posted David Icke videos on this twitter and tumblr. Out of them, Genevieve and Randy jr. have tweeted that Conrad Murray is only the beginning of the people who should go down for the death of Michael, and hinted at conspiracy. Jaafar has explicitly pointed to the 'illuminati', last year or the year before he posted a YouTube video stating the illuminati killed Michael Jackson.

And yes, let's talk about PARIS..she tweets about the illuminati often, and on both her official twitter, and the one her and her friend set up (parisjfacts) she has talked about KNOWING the illuminati killed her dad. someone asked her a question about it and used the word 'think' , the reply was that she doesn't 'think' it she KNOWS it. She favourited one of Omer Bhatti's tweets (realobee) that 4 years isn't enough for that coward. Why did obee use the word 'coward'? He believes Murray was used as a pawn and isn't exposing the truth? Has anyone seen Paris's Illuminati-related drawings that she posts on her instagram? This girl has beliefs and isn't afraid to put them out into the open. I'm quite worried for her in a number of ways... she will be mocked & deemed crazy... and possibly on the other side, her life could be in danger.

I don't know if there was a conspiracy involved in Michael's death or if the 'illuminati' was involved, but I know he spoke about conspiracies against him and was in fear of his and his kids lives. He thought he was going to be murdered. At some point he didn't eat or even drink for fear he would be poisoned... he was hospitalised because of this.

You might be interested in this link:
http://mindcontrolblackassassins.wor...janet-jackson/

[gaias child]

Originally Posted by indigoxo

I think a lot of the Jackson family think there was a conspiracy to kill Michael. La Toya doesn't hide this. Also we can see from Michael's nieces and nephews Randy jr., Donte, Genevieve, Jaafar that they believe in many various 'conspiracies', like such that are posted on this forum... chemtrails, hollow earth, illuminati, etc. Donte has actually posted David Icke videos on this twitter and tumblr. Out of them, Genevieve and Randy jr. have tweeted that Conrad Murray is only the beginning of the people who should go down for the death of Michael, and hinted at conspiracy. Jaafar has explicitly pointed to the 'illuminati', last year or the year before he posted a YouTube video stating the illuminati killed Michael Jackson.

And yes, let's talk about PARIS..she tweets about the illuminati often, and on both her official twitter, and the one her and her friend set up (parisjfacts) she has talked about KNOWING the illuminati killed her dad. someone asked her a question about it and used the word 'think' , the reply was that she doesn't 'think' it she KNOWS it. She favourited one of Omer Bhatti's tweets (realobee) that 4 years isn't enough for that coward. Why did obee use the word 'coward'? He believes Murray was used as a pawn and isn't exposing the truth? Has anyone seen Paris's Illuminati-related drawings that she posts on her instagram? This girl has beliefs and isn't afraid to put them out into the open. I'm quite worried for her in a number of ways... she will be mocked & deemed crazy... and possibly on the other side, her life could be in danger.

I don't know if there was a conspiracy involved in Michael's death or if the 'illuminati' was involved, but I know he spoke about conspiracies against him and was in fear of his and his kids lives. He thought he was going to be murdered. At some point he didn't eat or even drink for fear he would be poisoned... he was hospitalised because of this.

Hi Indigoxo

welcome to this thread, thank you very much for your excellent and interesting post.

I did not know that about paris, very enlightening.

[hell_no]

Originally Posted by lovely one

True. I wish you would elaborate on your opinions more...they are very interesting. Tell us more, please !
Anyway...it is quite significant that Michael told Paris more than once : If something happens to me...etc.
People who are seeing Michael as a super star who got cought in drug addictions and died because of it should really digg deeper.
If nothing else , listen to his own words. Yes, there is a chance Paris will be called a looney. All ppl that think for themselves are called that.
Remember that ppl who said Earth is round were ridiculed at one point...
So, who knows. There are so many shit going on and I do worry : will the truth come out ? When ? I hope one day.
My brain is about to explode because of MJ...I remember when Dangerous came out in 1991, I guess hardly anything was spoken about Illuminati and secret societies and stuff, am I right ? At least , not in the open.
Just look at the cover of that album. MJ surely had a VISION:

In the 80ies illuminati was already a theme in the movie and music industry .
Off course Michael Jackson was aware of the symbolism on that albumcover. Apparently he liked that art on the cover and agreed on it.
And Dangerous is not the only album with symbolism.

[andiliz]

Bonnie Cox wrote this on her blog http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/ :

'Souza' I think, is the one that runs the MJDH forum. I don’t know enough about her/him, but when I had learned in mid 2010 that it was a Sony-set up forum, I stopped letting their links on my blog. I don’t believe 'Souza' has ever said anything derogatory about me personally (I could be wrong), but I do know that there have been negative comments about this blog on that site. There have also been some positive ones.

The point of being a witness is to reach out to people. If they attack you, keep doing what you’re doing (Michael is a great example of this . . . THE example).

I don’t have the authority to question the authenticity of her post, but I want to include a link to it here because as she states in this post, she is someone who previously did not believe in God. She tells the story better so I will let her do it.

This is why we do what we do. I hope 'Souza', in reaching out to the possibility of God by following Michael’s faith, finds the love that Michael found in God, and realizes where Michael’s love came from all along. His strength is from God and that ability to love, you now see the threat he is to them.

Source, doubledutchblogs, walkbyfaith:
http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.co...-not-by-sight/

[andiliz]

There have been a number of strange, suspicious deaths of people connected to Michael Jackson since his own death/murder such as:

1. Evan Chandler. (born Evan Robert Charmatz) (January 25, 1944 - November 5, 2009) was an American screenwriter and dentist, and was best known as accuser to Michael Jackson. In 1993, Evan Chandler accused Michael Jackson of molesting his son Jordan Chandler after his son told him of the allegations while under the influence of sodium amytal,also known to "induce false memory syndrome",during some surgery.

2. Bruce Ayers.
Bruce - Worked for three years as Dr. Arnold Klein's research assistant and confidant, was found dead on a sidewalk on December 18th 2009 in Los Angeles. Dr. Arnold Klein was Michael Jackson's dermatologist.

3. Peter Lopez.
Peter - Was an entertainment lawyer who represented Michael Jackson (and was Catherine Bach's husband). Peter Lopez died of a gunshot wound at his home in California. On April 30, 2010, 60 year old Peter Lopez was found shot dead - an apparent suicide or was he murdered?

4. Sulema and Jerrielle Wilborn.
Sulema and Jerriell - Legal Clinic volunteers for Tom Mesereau, Michael’s attorney during the 2005 trial. Gangland style shooting. Both her and her husband killed, car crashing into a pole on August 4th, 2010 in South Los Angeles. Source: http://projects.latimes.com/homicide...ulema-wilborn/

5. Ronni Chasen. (October 17, 1946 – November 16, 2010) was an American publicist, who once represented such actors as Michael Douglas and I think at one time represented Michael Jackson, or was connected to Michael Jackson in some way? Ronni Chasen was shot in Beverly Hills on November 16th, 2010, at approximately 12:28 a.m., as she was driving home from the Hollywood premiere of the film "Burlesque".

6. Corey Haim. (December 23, 1971 – March 10, 2010) who was a Canadian actor, known for a 1980s Hollywood career as a teen idol. Corey was at one time friends with Michael Jackson for a while.

7. Dame Elizabeth Taylor, DBE. (February 27, 1932 – March 23, 2011) was a very famous British-American actress/movie star/child star and a close friend of Michael Jackson. (Not sure if Elizabeth Taylor's death is suspicious?)

8. Frank DiLeo. (October 23, 1947 – August 24, 2011) was an Italian-American music industry executive and actor, known for his portrayal of gangster Tuddy Cicero in Martin Scorsese's Goodfellas. For five years in the late 1980s, and again in 2009, he was Michael Jackson's manager.

9. Dwight Arrington Myers. (May 24, 1967 – November 8, 2011), better known as "Heavy D", was a Jamaican-born American rapper, record producer, singer, actor, and former leader of "Heavy D & the Boyz", a hip hop group which included G-Whiz (Glen Parrish), "Trouble" T. Roy (Troy Dixon), and Eddie F (born Edward Ferrell). The group maintained a sizable audience in the United States through most of the 1990s. The five albums the group released were produced by Teddy Riley, Marley Marl, his cousin Pete Rock and Eddie F. The bridge of Michael Jackson's song "Jam" features a rap performed by Heavy D, which is on Michael Jackson's 1991 "Dangerous" album. (Not sure if Heavy D's death is suspicious?)

[silverwand]

Originally Posted by andiliz

There have been a number of strange deaths of people connected to Michael Jackson since his own death/murder such as:

1. Evan Chandler.

2. Bruce Ayers.
Bruce - Worked for three years as Dr. Arnold Klein's research assistant and confidant, was found dead on a sidewalk on December 18th 2009 in Los Angeles. Dr. Arnold Klein was Michael Jackson's dermatologist.

3. Peter Lopez.
Peter - Was an entertainment lawyer who represented Michael Jackson.

4. Sulema and Jerrielle Wilborn.
Sulema and Jerrielle - Legal Clinic volunteers for Tom Mesereau, Michael’s attorney during the 2005 trial. Gangland style shooting. Both her and her husband killed, car crashing into a pole on August 4, 2010. Source http://projects.latimes.com/homicide...ulema-wilborn/

5. Ronni Chasen.

6. Corey Haim. (December 23, 1971 – March 10, 2010) who was a Canadian actor, known for a 1980s Hollywood career as a teen idol.

7. Dame Elizabeth Taylor, DBE. (February 27, 1932 – March 23, 2011) was a very famous British-American actress/movie star/child star and a close friend of Michael Jackson. (Not sure if Elizabeth Taylor's death is suspicious?)

8. Frank DiLeo. (October 23, 1947 – August 24, 2011) was an Italian-American music industry executive and actor, known for his portrayal of gangster Tuddy Cicero in Martin Scorsese's Goodfellas. For five years in the late 1980s, and again in 2009, he was Michael Jackson's manager.

9. Dwight Arrington Myers. (May 24, 1967 – November 8, 2011), better known as "Heavy D", was a Jamaican-born American rapper, record producer, singer, actor, and former leader of "Heavy D & the Boyz", a hip hop group which included G-Whiz (Glen Parrish), "Trouble" T. Roy (Troy Dixon), and Eddie F (born Edward Ferrell). The group maintained a sizable audience in the United States through most of the 1990s. The five albums the group released were produced by Teddy Riley, Marley Marl, his cousin Pete Rock and Eddie F. (Not sure if Heavy D's death is suspicious?)

This is Jordan's father isn't it? he was a dentist, some say he was behind the first round of abuse allegations against MJ 'cos he was jealous of MJ and I think I read somewhere that MJ wouldn't help him out with his entertainment career or something like that. He apparently killed himself within six months after Michael's death didn't he? Shot himself and didn't leave a suicide note.

[andiliz]

Originally Posted by silverwand

This is Jordan's father isn't it? he was a dentist, some say he was behind the first round of abuse allegations against MJ 'cos he was jealous of MJ and I think I read somewhere that MJ wouldn't help him out with his entertainment career or something like that. He apparently killed himself within six months after Michael's death didn't he? Shot himself and didn't leave a suicide note.

Yes Evan Chandler is Jordan Chandler's father. Evan Chandler (born Evan Robert Charmatz) (January 25, 1944 - November 5, 2009) was an American screenwriter and dentist, and was best known as accuser to Michael Jackson. In 1993, Evan Chandler accused Michael Jackson of molesting his son Jordan Chandler after his son told him of the allegations while under the influence of sodium amytal,also known to "induce false memory syndrome",during some surgery.
Evan Chandler may of been killed it might not of been suicide.

[andiliz]

LANCASTER — The Maharishi Ayurveda Health Center, a landmark 217-acre gated property that once attracted celebrities such as Elizabeth Taylor, George Hamilton, Michael Jackson and George Harrison, is for sale.
See link: http://www.telegram.com/article/2011...S01&source=rss

[andiliz]

The people who wanted Michael Jackson dead. What do people make of this You Tube video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=x11MTY2FeMU#!

[andiliz]

Originally Posted by andiliz

There have been a number of strange, suspicious deaths of people connected to Michael Jackson since his own death/murder such as:

1. Evan Chandler. (born Evan Robert Charmatz) (January 25, 1944 - November 5, 2009) was an American screenwriter and dentist, and was best known as accuser to Michael Jackson. In 1993, Evan Chandler accused Michael Jackson of molesting his son Jordan Chandler after his son told him of the allegations while under the influence of sodium amytal,also known to "induce false memory syndrome",during some surgery.

2. Bruce Ayers.
Bruce - Worked for three years as Dr. Arnold Klein's research assistant and confidant, was found dead on a sidewalk on December 18th 2009 in Los Angeles. Dr. Arnold Klein was Michael Jackson's dermatologist.

3. Peter Lopez.
Peter - Was an entertainment lawyer who represented Michael Jackson (and was Catherine Bach's husband). Peter Lopez died of a gunshot wound at his home in California. On April 30, 2010, 60 year old Peter Lopez was found shot dead - an apparent suicide or was he murdered?

4. Sulema and Jerrielle Wilborn.
Sulema and Jerriell - Legal Clinic volunteers for Tom Mesereau, Michael’s attorney during the 2005 trial. Gangland style shooting. Both her and her husband killed, car crashing into a pole on August 4th, 2010 in South Los Angeles. Source: http://projects.latimes.com/homicide...ulema-wilborn/

5. Ronni Chasen. (October 17, 1946 – November 16, 2010) was an American publicist, who once represented such actors as Michael Douglas and I think at one time represented Michael Jackson, or was connected to Michael Jackson in some way? Ronni Chasen was shot in Beverly Hills on November 16th, 2010, at approximately 12:28 a.m., as she was driving home from the Hollywood premiere of the film "Burlesque".

6. Corey Haim. (December 23, 1971 – March 10, 2010) who was a Canadian actor, known for a 1980s Hollywood career as a teen idol. Corey was at one time friends with Michael Jackson for a while.

7. Dame Elizabeth Taylor, DBE. (February 27, 1932 – March 23, 2011) was a very famous British-American actress/movie star/child star and a close friend of Michael Jackson. (Not sure if Elizabeth Taylor's death is suspicious?)

8. Frank DiLeo. (October 23, 1947 – August 24, 2011) was an Italian-American music industry executive and actor, known for his portrayal of gangster Tuddy Cicero in Martin Scorsese's Goodfellas. For five years in the late 1980s, and again in 2009, he was Michael Jackson's manager.

9. Dwight Arrington Myers. (May 24, 1967 – November 8, 2011), better known as "Heavy D", was a Jamaican-born American rapper, record producer, singer, actor, and former leader of "Heavy D & the Boyz", a hip hop group which included G-Whiz (Glen Parrish), "Trouble" T. Roy (Troy Dixon), and Eddie F (born Edward Ferrell). The group maintained a sizable audience in the United States through most of the 1990s. The five albums the group released were produced by Teddy Riley, Marley Marl, his cousin Pete Rock and Eddie F. The bridge of Michael Jackson's song "Jam" features a rap performed by Heavy D, which is on Michael Jackson's 1991 "Dangerous" album. (Not sure if Heavy D's death is suspicious?)

Does anyone knows of any other suspicious deaths which have a connection to Michael Jackson and that have happened since Michael Jackson's death/murder?? I would be interested to hear peoples views.