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Old 21-08-2009, 08:22 PM   #1
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Default City of London separate from the UK?

I have heard and read that the City of London (the 677 acre financial district) is not a part of the UK. Can anyone point out how this is known to be true? I don't doubt that it is, but I just can't seem to find the information to validate this. If anyone can refer me to the information, it would be appreciated.

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Old 21-08-2009, 08:26 PM   #2
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Are you a film maker or writing a book? As your first post seems a strange one. Is this what some do. Join forums and then get others to do their research for them? The city of London has its own Lord Mayor. Not to be confused with the other elected Mayor. That clue may show you where to research.
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Old 21-08-2009, 08:29 PM   #3
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Like Vatican City and Washington DC, the City of London is a City State, with it's own laws, governing body, etc.
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Old 21-08-2009, 08:29 PM   #4
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I remember watching it on Icke's video and on the ring of power series.
It's the same for the Vatican.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4527223.stm
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle2251280.ece
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Old 21-08-2009, 08:33 PM   #5
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Hi plumsouffle iv also been reading a bit on the same subject ,thought this link may be relevent to your studies...



The British Legal System of Mixed Common and Roman Law
http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhi...p?showtopic=27
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Old 21-08-2009, 08:36 PM   #6
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Like Vatican City and Washington DC, the City of London is a City State, with it's own laws, governing body, etc.
The Unholy Trinity.
All separate "states"; by design.
But to say that the City of London is not part of the UK might be a little misleading.
The "UK" is a corporation; not a country.
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Old 21-08-2009, 08:48 PM   #7
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Thank you all for your replies. Not writing any books or films, just wanting to spread the word with the facts behind me. Sorry, ian2day, I didn't realise my post smacks of someone who wants others to research things for them. Maybe you get that a lot, or maybe you need a break? But thanks for the information all the same.
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Old 21-08-2009, 08:52 PM   #8
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The Unholy Trinity.
All separate "states"; by design.
But to say that the City of London is not part of the UK might be a little misleading.
The "UK" is a corporation; not a country.
the city of london is also a corporation maybe the structure is

Vatican > City of London > UK

heres the companys website

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation

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Old 21-08-2009, 08:53 PM   #9
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From what I understand, the following are attributed to them regarding their designated central concern.

City of London - Financial/political

Vatican City - Religious/Spiriual(or lack thereof, pft)

Washington DC(District of Columbia) - Military/political
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Separate how?
If I had to answer with one word, that word would be - yes.
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Old 21-08-2009, 08:56 PM   #11
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the IMF HQ is in Washington
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Old 21-08-2009, 08:58 PM   #12
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Separate how?
They'll have made themselves a soverign state.
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the IMF HQ is in Washington
That's because the IMF is the US Treasury.
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Old 21-08-2009, 09:36 PM   #15
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have been thinking about this lately too.

Seems like it may be linked to scotland, The city of Westminster, the stone of destiny, british / scottish kings etc.

The concept of Embasies is an interesting one, that the British Embasy is British soil, headed by the sovereign, no matter where the Embasy is, and all there have 'diplomatic' immunity. Which is perhaps how the British Gvt under Heath (i think) was able to sign the country into Europe and remain uncharged for treason - because he was attoling from within the City of Westminster and as such had Diplomatic immunity? just a guess.

There are issues within the City that escape other lawfull and legal issues, because yeah, they opperate outside of the juristiction of The Law of the Land, Common Law, and opperate soleley within commercial / admiralty law, the law of commerse and contracts, as does any court in this land. Where a court exists within commerse, so to does the City and Westminster.

They become companies operating within companies but not bound by the structure of law of the later - same as embasies, they operate to the law of origin, ie admiralty. At least i think that is how it works.
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Old 21-08-2009, 09:37 PM   #16
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The only real true City States are Monaco, Singapore and The Vatican

Washington DC is a federally adminstered city like Canberra, Mexico City and Brasilia within a federation of states.

The City Of London is an autonomous city yes but it is within the unitary state of the UK. There are two other cities which fit into the same category being Hong King and Macau.

The City Of London IS part of the UK.

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Are you a film maker or writing a book? As your first post seems a strange one. Is this what some do. Join forums and then get others to do their research for them? The city of London has its own Lord Mayor. Not to be confused with the other elected Mayor. That clue may show you where to research.
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The City Of London IS part of the UK.

Cheers
The deception is very clever.
There is both "London" (inside the M25) and "The City of London Corporation" (square mile).

They are completely separate entities.

So which were you referring to?
The city of London?
Or the City of London?

The small or capital "c" makes the WORLD of difference!!!
i.e the United States of America or the united states of America.
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And as someone has said the UK is a PLC. The UK is a jurisdiction. Whereas England, Scotland, Ireland are country's with Wales being a principality or, not sure about that last one.
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