My encounters with Reptilian hybrids/UFOs

[flyermay]

The truth is, I honestly do not know if shape-shifting reptilians relly exist or not; I don't have enough evidence either way, so I prefer to keep an open mind about it. I'm just saying that our friend's story has too many flaws for me to believe it.

[onthefence123]

Originally Posted by arela

It is of course your prerogative not to accept or believe anything dsl22 says, but you have no right to bash or insult people because you "don't buy" their story.

I am neither bashing nor am I insulting anyone. If I call a liar that which he is then I am only doing so out of kindness for the greater good. I agree that people should be free to exam info as it is. I have no problems with this and neither do I have a problem with people posting their 'accurate' experiences. A line is crossed (as was on this thread) when the info is manipulated in such a way so that it points to a lie. Disinfo at its best.

You mentioned something about "respect" and that's where I come in, because you bugged the hell out of my nerves when you of all people (with a totally disrespectful approach) prompt others to respect!

I think our interpretation of the word 'respect' differs. Think about it. Is it really respectful to let people delude themselves? Perhaps you don't care because you take pleasure in the fact that others are deluding themselves and you not being one of them? What else could it be? Maybe you have been taken in by this liar and others like him and that is why you are so quick to defend him? In that case, I am only trying to help you see the facts for what they are.

You see, I have a thing about respect, as it is so misinterpreted and misused...

I also think so. Especially in your case. No offense.

Respect doesn't go hand in hand with acceptance.

Did I say it does? No.

Respecting what you can accept is easy.

I have accepted that there are many nasty people in this world. Do I respect their ways? Certainly not.

Respecting what you can't/won't accept is the challenge, and that's what will distinguish you from a common barbarian.

What about the fact that I occasionally eat with utensils? Does that count?

It shouldn't be of interest to you anyway.

Do you not treat me as an equal?


Kind regards,
Peter

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by flyermay

I don't think you are delusional or paranoid any more, you are simply making things up along the way...



... Like this part. You never said in your original story that Arwyn shape-shifted, nor that she draws reptilians in her spear time; though it's far more significant than simply saying she makes jokes about drinking blood.

There are numerous experiences and occurrences that I failed to mention in my original posting of the story. Go look on GLP. There are dozens of occurrences ,such as this, that took place, that I originally failed to mention. It doesn't have anything to do with "making it up."

When you have experienced as much bizarre shit as this, it isn't easy to recall everything in one sitting. I would have to sit down for months and compile everything into one presentation. This is a ruff draft of sorts. It's an internet forum. Not a final copy. What you have read here was written in a matter of hours. It's a summarized version of the events that I copy pasted from my original posting on GLP. Therefore, much of the experiences were left out. I'm not making anything up here. There are numerous times where I have read through my story and said to myself," Damn, I left a lot out." Not on purpose, but because of the sheer volume of the experiences.

To be honest with you, it kind of pisses me off that you're suggesting that making this up at all. I would rather you say that I'm crazy. That would be understandable. However, you claiming that I'm "making this up" is entirely out of line.

Call me crazy all you want, but don't label me liar based on your own convoluted analysis . Okay?

Originally Posted by flyermay

Another bit that you didn't include in your original story, though it is also more significant than simply saying "I know she reads my mind".

Yeah, there were numerous other experiences like this that I didn't mention either in my original posting. As mentioned in the above statement. What is your point?

Originally Posted by flyermay

I bet Curtis is quite a joker, especially when he's high.

I hope Curtis was joking. However, to this day, he refuses to admit it. In fact, he won't even admit to making the statement, in the first place. He has absolutely no recollection of making the statement. Would you like to speak to Curtis yourself and ask him if he was joking? I can provide contact information. He will tell you the same thing I'm telling you here. He has no recollection of his bizarre statements and behavior. Brandon and I remember the entire situation vividly. Brandon doesn't believe that he was joking around either.

Originally Posted by flyermay

And why would you think that 10 multi-dimensional reptilian beings would take over a pizza shop?... Please don't tell me it's to spy on you, because one would be enough for that task -since they can read your mind-.

Spy on me? No, it has to do with harassing me. That is how Gang Stalking works. Have you ever researched Nazi style Gang Stalking tactics? During WWII, the Gestapo would implant undercover agents into the work place and personal life of political activist and radio personalities that were against the Nazi party. My situation fits this description perfectly. Being that I was planning on getting a television show criticizing the powers that be.

Read these excerpts from this website. I recommend you read the entire article. It fits my situation perfectly. The difference is that my situation involves extra-dimensional entities that possess the ability to look like humans.

http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/GSFAQ.html

"Gang Stalking is also systemic form of control, which seeks to control every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. Gang Stalking has many similarities to workplace mobbing, but takes place outside in the community. It called Gang Stalking, because the target is followed around and placed under intrusive and directed surveillance by groups of organised "Covert Human Intelligence Sources" also known as Citizen Informants 24/7. Using anti-terror laws to spy on ordinary people."


"What happens during this Gang Stalking surveillance is very similar to what happened to many innocent individuals in the former East Germany or Activists and Dissidents in Russia. Many innocent people in the former East Germany would be targeted for these harassment programs, and then their friends, family, and the community at large would be used to monitor, prosecute, and harass them. In Russia it was used by the state to declare activist, dissidents or anyone they thought to be an enemy of the state as mentally unfit and many were institutionalised using this form of systemic control."


It doesn't have anything to do with covert spy work. It has to do with highly organized harassment tactics. If they were spying on me, they wouldn't put an agent on me with snake tattoos, snake earrings, snake sunglasses, and a snake purse. They would remain anonymous and unnoticed.

They wanted me to know what they were.

Originally Posted by flyermay

That's a lie! You clearly said that way before even working in that shop you saw Zack shape-shift.

What the are you talking about? That isn't a lie at all. I didn't believe in Reptilian Shape Shifters at the time that I witnessed his eyes shape shift. That's why the experience was so significant. Because, there were no preconceived notions and beliefs to influence what I witnessed. I witnessed a shape shift before ever believing the existence of shape shifters. That is the significance.

If I did believe in Reptilian Shape Shifters during that encounter, it would damage the credibility of the experience. People could just say," You saw what you wanted to see." They can't say that now, can they? Because it's the real deal.

Originally Posted by flyermay

Yes, I guess that your plan to present a TV show and write a book is proof enough that you worry about your image and you do not seek any attention.

That's "PREVIOUS" plans to present a TV show and write a book. I have no future intention of doing either, as a result of their harassment. It wouldn't accomplish anything. Other than having people slander my family and me. Which isn't something I'm enthusiastic about doing.

The concept of getting TV and writing a book dealt with me feeling like I had an obligatory responsibility to share the information. In order to validate the information that people like Phil Schneider, Ron Rummel, and Dean Warwick gave their lives to share.

It doesn't have anything to do with me. It has to with the fact that people are literally dying over this issue. Get the point?

Why would anyone promote this kind of information for attention? The attention you get is slander and criticism. Not to mention, harassment from the PTB.

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by onthefence123

Hey, has anyone verified any of this dude's so-called facts? (His name, location, IP number, etc...)

Yup. Here is my facebook page. Send me an invite. Then go send all of the people that I mentioned in my story an invite.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/p...&id=1444299885

I've provided contact information for every single person mentioned in my story. However, you didn't realize this because you "stopped reading as soon as he stated that he (I) was heavily into pot." I wish I was as astute as you. Where did you learn how to do research? From watching television? Not every piece of information comes in the form of a 10 minute News segment, or a short radio bit. You're going to have to read a lot more to understand where I'm coming from. For that matter, your going to have to do a lot more research on the subject of Reptilian Shape Shifters before understanding where anyone ,that promotes this kind of information, is coming from. It's called "RESEARCH." Try it out.

If you're not willing to read more than don't bother offering your ignorant opinion. There is a reason this thread has 5 stars. It's because the experiences are real. People can see that. You, on the other hand, stopped reading after the first page.

Why would I post contact information for the people I'm "lying" about? That doesn't make any sense at all. Typically, people who lie try to hide damning information. I have openly providing their contact information so that you could verify whether or not I'm telling the truth about them. That isn't the behavior of a "liar." Not by a long shot. It's the opposite.

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by apricot

I've been in a fever all this week cramming in the information on David Icke's site. My mind has been stretched and boggled and I've been shaken to my very foundations...and yet I've believed everything I've read. Because it's been presented to me in such a way that I can only shake my head in awe and say, 'yes, that's right - I can see it now.'
But, I'm relieved to say, that after this week of fervent reading my mind hasn't lost its faculties. Because this story just smacked of bogus right from the start. I'm pleased it's been posted though because it at least proves to me I can judge the difference between real and invention.
No offence of course - you're a good story teller and like any good story teller I think that for you it's not invention and you really do believe in the characters and situations you created. Good luck with your book!

What book? I'm not writing any book. I have absolutely no intention of writing any book. That's why I'm here sharing the information for FREE. I don't even see any purpose to writing a book, at this point. You can do so much with the internet. Here, I can post links to illustrate my point. I can show videos and pictures that back up my claims.

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by flyermay

The truth is, I honestly do not know if shape-shifting reptilians relly exist or not; I don't have enough evidence either way, so I prefer to keep an open mind about it. I'm just saying that our friend's story has too many flaws for me to believe it.

What "flaws" are you referring to? You haven't pointed out any flaws from what I've seen. You've mentioned a lot of misinterpretations that are based on your own biased opinions. However, you haven't mentioned one flaw in the story.

Could you point some out please?

[eshtar]

I hate to ask this but.. WHY are you posting PERSONAL contact info on your sites of other people who trusted you with their personal info? I just don't understand it. I sure will never talk to you and give out my personal imformation.

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by eshtar

I hate to ask this but.. WHY are you posting PERSONAL contact info on your sites of other people who trusted you with their personal info? I just don't understand it. I sure will never talk to you and give out my personal imformation.

That is a good question.

This is why:

One day I came into work and another employee (whom I have yet to mention) asked me to cover a shift. Here name is "Honey." She wanted me to cover her shift on a Saturday. Honey told me that she was going to work at a local BLOOD DRIVE that was run by a local radio station called 101.5 X FM. The biggest radio station in Austin. This was on Wednesday.

I came into work on that Friday and was expecting to get my paycheck. My paycheck was nowhere to be found. There was a message on the dry erase board that said," David. Thank you for your donation." I didn't understand what this meant, but my paycheck was missing. Later that night, Brandy Brandy (redhead with 2 LIZARD TATTOOS on her right ankle) approaches me and says "So, I heard you made a donation to the 101.5 X BLOOD DRIVE. They mentioned your name on the radio earlier. People heard it." I replied," No, that is bullshit. I didn't make any donation. What the fuck are you talking about?" Patrick said," Well, maybe it was your doppelganger or something."

About 10 minutes later, Patrick was leaving for the night and said," Hey Brandy, walk me out to my car." Brandy came walking back into the restaurant and walked over to me. She looked me in the eye with a very serious look on her face and said,"You better be careful." I said," Why?" She wouldn't give a straight answer. Arwyn (girl with SNAKE TATTOOS) was standing right next to her and bumped into Brandy with her hip. Almost like Arwyn was trying to tell Brandy to "be nice." Brandy just replied by saying," Cuz Arwyn and I are playing bumper cars." The strange thing is, Arwyn had brought a DVD box set of the X-Files television show. This was sitting on the counter right next to Brandy and Arwyn as this conversation took place.

So, basically these "people"(if you insist on calling them that) took my paycheck and donated it to a BLOOD DRIVE. They announced my first and last name on the biggest radio station in Austin, TX. They had the connections to make this happen. Patrick is the lead singer of a band in Austin called The Gentleman's Social Club (reference to Freemasons.)

Here is a clip of Patrick's band.

THE GENTLEMEN'S SOCIAL CLUB-I Get Around at Red Eyed Fly - YouTube

THE GENTLEMEN'S SOCIAL CLUB-I Get Around at Red Eyed Fly - YouTube

Patrick openly stated to me that he has friends who are DJs at 101.5 X FM. That is how they were able to get them to say my name on the radio for making a donation to a BLOOD DRIVE. He is friends with all the goddamn DJs. Get the point? They said my first and last name on a fucking radio station. For making a donation to a fucking BLOOD DRIVE. Then they proceeded to basically threaten me when Brandy told me to "be careful."

So, I decided that I have no problem with posting their personal contact information. If they are going to screw with my finances, announce my name on the radio, and threaten me to my face; I'm going to post their personal contact information on every forum that I can. I have every right to do so. Get the point?

Here is a video clip of this girl Honey. She is on the local Roller Derby team, here in Austin. While I was working with her, ESPN 2 actually did a documentary on Honey and the rest of the Derby team. ESPN 2 sent a film crew to my job to get some shots of Honey while she worked.

Here is the video clip from ESPN 2. Honey is the girl at 2:01 in this video clip. Her Roller Derby name is "Honey Homicide." She wears a green dress and has graphics of BLOOD on the back of her uniform.

Roller Revival on ESPN Sportscenter - YouTube

Roller Revival on ESPN Sportscenter - YouTube

I later confronted Honey about donating my paycheck to the BLOOD DRIVE. When I did, she mysteriously acted like she had no idea what I was talking about. She just grinned and said," What blood drive?" Are you getting the point here?

People that I'm accusing of being Reptilian Shape Shifters ( who allegedly drink BLOOD) took my paycheck and donated it to a BLOOD DRIVE. Then proceeded to announce my first and last name on the biggest radio station in Austin, TX. As well as, threaten me to my face. So, I have no problem posting their personal contact information on every conspiracy forum that I come across. Don't get me wrong. I know it's rude, to say the least. However, under these circumstances I feel that posting there personal information is the only peaceful manner that I have to fight back with. Communication is the only weapon I need.

It is my only way of fighting back against the harassment. It's not as if I can go to the police with these types of claims. They would likely try to have me committed. So, I post their personal information to show them that 2 can play at this game. They announce my name on the radio. I announce their name on conspiracy forums.

Got it? Good.

[eshtar]

So? Thats NO REASON to go and give out peoples personal imformation. Jeeze. I'd donate to a Blood drive to yes they should have asked first but thats no excuse to go and post on the Internet 2 females personal imformation so cooks and rapists can go stalking. Are you damned crazy? Just because 2 females have snake tattoes or lizards and you think you saw eye slits does not give you the right to go posting where they live and their names all over face book and the internet in general. No matter WHAT they are. That is rude and just out right wrong. if they found out they would have all the right to be mad and damand legal action I would to in a heart beat. And btw I always wanted a snake tatoo and so what if they makes me all evil now. and ooooo they announced your name because money was givin to a blood drive where people need blood trancefusions. Is that so bad enough where you post everywhere peoples addresses and locations all over the web? umm no. yes what they did was probibly a mistake but I'd not go posting what you are 2 wrongs don't make a right. And ya you could go to the cops just not mention the what you think is reptillian part. Still stop darn posting addresses and names god.

[onthefence123]

Originally Posted by dsl22

Send me an invite. Then go send all of the people that I mentioned in my story an invite.

Don't be silly. What could I possibly accomplish by chatting with a liar and the company he keeps? This is a game to you. You could be getting payed for all I know. I can't be sure about somethings but I can be sure of one thing. You lie.

I've provided contact information for every single person mentioned in my story. However, you didn't realize this because you "stopped reading as soon as he stated that he (I) was heavily into pot." I wish I was as astute as you. Where did you learn how to do research? From watching television? Not every piece of information comes in the form of a 10 minute News segment, or a short radio bit. You're going to have to read a lot more to understand where I'm coming from. For that matter, your going to have to do a lot more research on the subject of Reptilian Shape Shifters before understanding where anyone ,that promotes this kind of information, is coming from. It's called "RESEARCH." Try it out.

Let me explain something to you. You're thread wreaks of BS. That isn't my fault. It's yours.

There is a reason this thread has 5 stars. It's because the experiences are real. People can see that. You, on the other hand, stopped reading after the first page.

You think the reason this thread has five stars is because your experiences are real? Genius reasoning! First of all, who here has actually bothered to prove to themselves that your experiences are indeed real? How would that be possible? Any ideas? It would be a reptilian-nut's wet dream to meet real life evidence. Good luck.

The reason this thread is so highly ranked is because this is a David Icke fan site and you are their proof. That's it. That's all.

You, on the other hand, stopped reading after the first page.

If I went on and on about being the reincarnation of Christ with proof akin to "birthmark in the shape of a crucifix" and "hearing the voice of God" would you really want to continue reading? Of course not. Your evidence was no better.

Why would I post contact information for the people I'm "lying" about? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Actually, if you were honest then you'd see how it makes perfect sense. You might as well go as far as possible since you've come this far. Without any backing you knew that most people would find your experiences hard to believe so you decided to step it up a notch and provide contact info. Contact info and synchronicity.

Nice try.


Kind regards,
Peter

[eshtar]

Now I do not at all like attacking people and what i am stating is no attack. it is just whats setting me off is the posting info on forums and other web pages Personal Imfo and contacts included pics and addresses. That right there setts me off and makes me not want to trust someone who does that. These females may NOT even be reptilian na dmay be just screwing with your head down to being bitches sometimes. (no offence) I am female myself I know lol what it is like. They know what your into and some people have a knack for screwing and playing with heads. That does not make them reptilian in the least. It just sets up a very utrustworthy radar and red flag on the most part. If they want to go posting their pics on web pages thats their choice not yours and no one elses. but you have no right to go posting their personal adresses, names and such where any rapist and wack job can find em and it could be murder. And you know what? YOUR the blame for it. I should the heck would be angry if I trusted you enough after so long and told you where I live for example, then one day your on here accusing me of things then posting my home address? umm ya red flag. And there are humans who have reptile tattooes including dragon and snake tattooes I see them on people where I work at a food mark and trust me they are not some illuminati person. Just because they did something wrong and mentioned your name in Texas because of a donation to a blood drive mind you (Whitch in the long run COULD have been good for alot of people who need it) It still does not make it right for you to do this. Now this will be the last time I post on this matter. I said my 2 cents worth.

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by eshtar

So? Thats NO REASON to go and give out peoples personal imformation. Jeeze. I'd donate to a Blood drive to yes they should have asked first but thats no excuse to go and post on the Internet 2 females personal imformation so cooks and rapists can go stalking. Are you damned crazy? Just because 2 females have snake tattoes or lizards and you think you saw eye slits does not give you the right to go posting where they live and their names all over face book and the internet in general. No matter WHAT they are. That is rude and just out right wrong. if they found out they would have all the right to be mad and damand legal action I would to in a heart beat. And btw I always wanted a snake tatoo and so what if they makes me all evil now. and ooooo they announced your name because money was givin to a blood drive where people need blood trancefusions. Is that so bad enough where you post everywhere peoples addresses and locations all over the web? umm no. yes what they did was probibly a mistake but I'd not go posting what you are 2 wrongs don't make a right. And ya you could go to the cops just not mention the what you think is reptillian part. Still stop darn posting addresses and names god.

What?! Are you serious? Posting names and information isn't anywhere near as bad as fucking with a person's finances. I had 2 checks bounce as a result of not getting that paycheck. That's a serious problem for anyone. Hell, I would say it's actually illegal to do that.

Nobody is going to "stalk and rape" them. Give me a break. Nobody goes after Bush and Obama. Why would they take the time to go after these 2 insignificant individuals? You're not making any sense at all. If they announce my name on the radio and screw with my finances, I have every right to do so.

Facebook is public information. They shouldn't be on facebook if they don't want strangers looking at their profile. I have done absolutely nothing wrong here.

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by onthefence123

Don't be silly. What could I possibly accomplish by chatting with a liar and the company he keeps? This is a game to you. You could be getting payed for all I know. I can't be sure about somethings but I can be sure of one thing. You lie.

What am I lying about Peter? You can't point out one thing that I've lied about. You can only make groundless accusations that I'm lying. If you were really going to prove me wrong you would go talk to these people and try to obtain evidence to prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by onthefence123

Let me explain something to you. You're thread wreaks of BS. That isn't my fault. It's yours.

You think the reason this thread has five stars is because your experiences are real? Genius reasoning! First of all, who here has actually bothered to prove to themselves that your experiences are indeed real? How would that be possible? Any ideas? It would be a reptilian-nut's wet dream to meet real life evidence. Good luck.

Why are you on this forum Peter? You obviously haven't done any research into this subject. You probably heard about Reptilians 2 weeks ago and think the entire subject is bogus. Not just my thread.

I did too, for the first year and half. I thought information pertaining to Reptilians was disinformation. My personal experiences showed me that it was 100 % real. I didn't just start believing this subject on the spot. This is an issue where "seeing is believing." After what I've seen, there is no turning back.

Originally Posted by onthefence123

The reason this thread is so highly ranked is because this is a David Icke fan site and you are their proof. That's it. That's all.

Now your insulting everyone on the forum. Give me a break. Go do some RESEARCH Peter. Stop drawing ignorant conclusions and insulting people.

Originally Posted by onthefence123

If I went on and on about being the reincarnation of Christ with proof akin to "birthmark in the shape of a crucifix" and "hearing the voice of God" would you really want to continue reading? Of course not. Your evidence was no better.

What?! That's a horrible comparison. According to you, the evidence is no better. However, you haven't done any research into this subject. Why would you take the information seriously? It's completely foreign to everything else you've seen in your lifetime.

The experiences I've had line up with the information presented by researchers on the subject. It's impossible for you to realize this because you haven't spent more than 5 minutes looking at the information. Clearly.

Originally Posted by onthefence123

Actually, if you were honest then you'd see how it makes perfect sense. You might as well go as far as possible since you've come this far. Without any backing you knew that most people would find your experiences hard to believe so you decided to step it up a notch and provide contact info. Contact info and synchronicity.

Are you kidding me? If there was no contact info in general, the counter argument against me would be far stronger than it is now. With contact info provided, viewers can see that these are real individuals that I've discussed. Not products of my imagination.

"Without any backing." Are you claiming these people are helping my lie or something? This is getting ridiculous. Numerous people on multiple forums have spoken to these people and confirmed their existence. If you choose not to, that's fine with me. Just stop insulting everyone on this forum because you choose to remain in a state of denial.

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by eshtar

Now I do not at all like attacking people and what i am stating is no attack. it is just whats setting me off is the posting info on forums and other web pages Personal Imfo and contacts included pics and addresses.

I haven't posted any addresses. I've simply stated that they live in Austin. It's not like I've posted their home address. Calm down.

Originally Posted by eshtar

That right there setts me off and makes me not want to trust someone who does that. These females may NOT even be reptilian na dmay be just screwing with your head down to being bitches sometimes. (no offence)

That's not possible. "Screwing with head" doesn't explain the situation at all. It's in no way, a plausible explanation. If it were, I wouldn't be here right now.

I never once mentioned an interest in this subject. That's the reason I freaked about their harassment, in the first place. If I had openly stated to these people that I was interested in the subject of Reptilians, then that would be a plausible explanation. However, I was researching this subject in the privacy of my own home. It was literally impossible for them to discover my interest in these subjects.

If I had said something to them about it, then obviously they would just be giving me a hard time. However, I didn't. I didn't mention one word about it. They just started making refernces to blood drinking and cannibalism all on their own.

Originally Posted by eshtar

I am female myself I know lol what it is like. They know what your into and some people have a knack for screwing and playing with heads.

No, they didn't know what I was into. That's the entire point. They knew I was interested in this subject without me mentioning a single word about it. How is this possible? I have yet to receive any kind of a plausible explanation from skeptics like you. You simply draw your own conclusions without acknowledging the facts surrounding the situation.

Originally Posted by eshtar

If they want to go posting their pics on web pages thats their choice not yours and no one elses.

If I want to take my paycheck and donate it do a blood drive, that's my choice and my choice alone. Not theirs. Where do you get off sticking up for their actions.

Originally Posted by eshtar

but you have no right to go posting their personal adresses, names and such where any rapist and wack job can find em and it could be murder.

So, are you saying they have a right to screw with my finances and announce my name on the biggest radio station in Austin? Interesting logic. If they donate my paycheck to a blood drive and announce my name on the radio, then I have every right to retaliate and post their information on forums.

Again, I never posted their addresses. Please stop taking my post out of context. It's getting really annoying.

Originally Posted by eshtar

And you know what? YOUR the blame for it.

What are talking about, hun? What am I to blame for. Their actions. Um, yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with you their. I never did anything to provoke these people to donate my paycheck to a blood drive.

I can't believe your even trying to justify their actions. You don't screw with people's money. It's highly illegal for them to tamper with my finances. If anyone is to blame for the other's actions, it's them. Not me.

Originally Posted by eshtar

I should the heck would be angry if I trusted you enough after so long and told you where I live for example, then one day your on here accusing me of things then posting my home address? umm ya red flag.

Can you provide one example of me posting their home addresses? I don't even know their home addresses moron. I never mentioned their home addresses once. Posting a link to their facebook pages doesn't qualify. Please stop taking my post out of context. It's getting really annoying.

Originally Posted by eshtar

And there are humans who have reptile tattooes including dragon and snake tattooes I see them on people where I work at a food mark and trust me they are not some illuminati person.

What is your point? Do these people make dozens of references to blood drinking and cannibalism? If they don't, I wouldn't accuse them of being Reptilians Shape Shifters at all. They have to do something along those lines before I would start accusing them of that.

The tattoos are not the only reason I've made these accusations against them. It's their statements and actions, combined with the tattoos that lead me to conclude that they aren't human. You seem to be having trouble understanding this.

Originally Posted by eshtar

Just because they did something wrong and mentioned your name in Texas because of a donation to a blood drive mind you (Whitch in the long run COULD have been good for alot of people who need it) It still does not make it right for you to do this. Now this will be the last time I post on this matter. I said my 2 cents worth.

Yup you said your 2 cents worth. And, that's about all it's worth. How can you justify screwing with a person's finances like that? I'm pretty sure what they did is highly illegal by any countries standards. You can't just take a person's paycheck and donate it to a blood drive. I don't care where you live sweetheart, that's highly illegal. If I had any documented proof of this action I would have gone to the police and had these people arrested.

I guarantee you no judge in this country would take legal action for posting facebook links. In fact, I would be willing to bet that a judge would laugh his ass off if you tried to take my posting of their facebook pages into a courtroom.

Give me a break lady.

[arela]

Originally Posted by onthefence123

I am neither bashing nor am I insulting anyone.

Really? I think you should go back a few pages and re-read your post.

If I call a liar that which he is then I am only doing so out of kindness for the greater good.

Let's get one thing straight. I didn't critisize your position on the matter, nor your intention. I was bothered by the way you phrased it.

I agree that people should be free to exam info as it is. I have no problems with this and neither do I have a problem with people posting their 'accurate' experiences.

Well la dee da, at least we agree on that one.

A line is crossed (as was on this thread) when the info is manipulated in such a way so that it points to a lie. Disinfo at its best.

I wouldn't disagree with you on the line crossing either. But disinfo wasn't as bad to my mind as other ..discrepancies. Like exposing certain things he shouldn't have...
(I agree with esthar on that one)

I think our interpretation of the word 'respect' differs. Think about it. Is it really respectful to let people delude themselves?

a/ Our different interpretation of "respect" is right! I suggest you read some Plato (especially his writings on Socrates), on your spare time.

b/ letting or not letting people delude themselves, has little to do with respect. What are you? A mind policeman- assuming the role of "letting" or not "letting" people think this or that? Respect has to do with the way one approaches their fellow man and is (or isn't) intergrated in their behaviour and values.

Perhaps you don't care because you take pleasure in the fact that others are deluding themselves and you not being one of them?

Have you ever considered the possibility that your assumptions and biased, unfounded and quickie " conclusions" about people you don't even know, are way of base?

What else could it be?

What else I wonder...

Maybe you have been taken in by this liar and others like him and that is why you are so quick to defend him?

What you ddn't get (due to superficial thought process) is the fact that I wasn't defending any one in particular, only my principle. In other words, its the principle of the thing. An the principle of the thing here..had to do with... RESPECT! (open a dictionary if need be, but PLS learn what the damn word means)

In that case, I am only trying to help you see the facts for what they are.

Thanks, but I'm quite capable of drawing my own conclusions.
(I haven't even posted my position, and you presume to know it, propably thinking that I've swallowed the story presented hook line and sinker. Well sorry to burst your bubble here mate, but that's not the case)

I also think so. Especially in your case. No offense.

No offence taken. I'd have to value a person's opinion first, to feel offended.

Again, just for your info, you're way off base.

I have accepted that there are many nasty people in this world. Do I respect their ways? Certainly not.

As I said, you're in desperate need of a dictionary, to get the proper definition of the word "respect"

What about the fact that I occasionally eat with utensils? Does that count?

Nope. An ape can also eat with utensils, even better than we can with proper guidance and training.

Do you not treat me as an equal?

Sure I do.
I think I could even get to like you too, if you ever decide and/or manage to get OFF the damn fence :P

Cheers

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by eshtar

Just because they did something wrong and mentioned your name in Texas because of a donation to a blood drive mind you (Whitch in the long run COULD have been good for alot of people who need it)

Keep in mind, Phil Schneider claimed that there are 9 different species that require the endorphins contained within human blood, in order to survive. Phil Schneider was found murdered in his Oregon apartment in January of 1996. After lecturing on the subject for 2 years. If what Schneider says is true, then I'm pretty sure that the blood they are obtaining at the blood drive is used as their food source. It isn't going to help anyone other than Reptilians.

That is the entire point of the girl with Reptilian tattoos taking my paycheck and donating it to a blood drive. It was a clear threat towards me on their part.

Are you aware of Schneider's claims? You seem like you're not. Otherwise, you would understand the significance of donating my paycheck to a BLOOD DRIVE. Being that they theories surrounding these creatures entirely revolves around them needing human blood to survive.

[jakob_lemy_zook]

Hi,
I completely believe your story as I too am going through the almost exact same stuff. You mentioned the tattoos. The ones I've encountered have dragons on their right legs. I have a long continuing ongoing story too as I'm a game player. I believe you also may be part of a "game." Reptilians love to play games by creating conflict in you and your friends using false memories and mind control. In fact many of these games are videotaped for their "shows." I know it sounds crazy. But, they put people in conflict against each other and also want you to look crazy to your friends adding to the conflict for entertainment. You may be in a show. Have you experienced any roof pounding? Any "cloaking" of Reptilians. Strange dreams? Wide awake and fast asleep type dreams. They use Devil Dust for mind control. Substance called Burundanga. They use a much more powerful extract called, Shocking Blue derived from that plant. Some of these Reptilians also work with rogue elements of Project Monarch. Abducted children for experimentation. They are master at abduction and Devil Dusting Mind Control. Discarded children are eaten through ritual. Blood drinking and so on. So you might be part of the Monarch Project. Not all the Reptilians are evil. There is a sect called the Reptilian 6. I too have met the "old man." He told me things that he says are not in the Bible and said a great 2nd flood was coming not written in the Bible. The next day after talking to him at a park, with me and my wife I looked in the paper, the obituary section and there he was. A picture of him. He had told us where he had worked, lived his relatives and so on and it was all there. He had died the day before our conversation. Very strange. It may have been a shape shifter game play though. Or, maybe a Paranormal. Anyway, I copied your story and put it on my site. http://www.paranormalcinema.com/trumpet-templar
Hang in there. They may tire of the game with you and move on.
They won't harm you physically. If they've put you in game play then your most likely liked. It's hard to understand their psyches and motivations.
The main thing to remember is their not all evil. But, most do loath humans.

[dsl22]

Originally Posted by jakob_lemy_zook

Hi,
I completely believe your story as I too am going through the almost exact same stuff. You mentioned the tattoos. The ones I've encountered have dragons on their right legs. I have a long continuing ongoing story too as I'm a game player. I believe you also may be part of a "game."

That's interesting. I like how you described the situation as a "game" because that's basically what it felt like the entire time with these people. It just seemed like they were toying around with me the entire time. Like I was the product of some kind of Reptilian, sociological experiment. It was bizarre.

Originally Posted by jakob_lemy_zook

Reptilians love to play games by creating conflict in you and your friends using false memories and mind control. In fact many of these games are videotaped for their "shows." I know it sounds crazy. But, they put people in conflict against each other and also want you to look crazy to your friends adding to the conflict for entertainment.

That doesn't sound crazy at all. I'm definitely open minded to the concept. That's exactly what has happened between my closest friends and I.

Originally Posted by jakob_lemy_zook

Have you experienced any roof pounding? Any "cloaking" of Reptilians. Strange dreams? Wide awake and fast asleep type dreams.

Yes! That's exactly the type of shit that has happened. I've had situations where I know my upstairs neighbor is out of town. He leaves town every weekend. Yet, I'll be looking up information or discussing it on forums, and it sounds like somebody is stomping around upstairs. It constantly seems like I can here somebody moving around in my apartment. I'll here my bed move, as if somebody is sitting down on it. I've had objects fly off of the shelves. Basically, stuff that would fall more under the classification of "paranormal activity."

The dreams I've been having are incredibly vivid and strange. Just 2 nights ago, I was on this forum discussing these situations with my former coworkers. I went to bed later that night and had a vivid dream where I was back at that job with all of these people. I actually woke up in the middle of the night, covered in sweat, as a result of this dream. It's like they were warning me to keep my mouth shut by showing up in my dreams.

There was one situation where I actually woke up with a 6 inch gash across my forehead. It wasn't there when I went to sleep the previous night. I know it wasn't there because I took out my contacts the night before and brushed my teeth. I would have noticed a 6 inch cut across forward. I was looking straight in the mirror before going to sleep. There is no way I would have missed it. Yet, I woke up the next day and there it was.

It's seriously like ( I know this sounds stupid) Freddy Kruger type shit. If you know what I'm talking about. It's freaky as fuck.

Originally Posted by jakob_lemy_zook

They use Devil Dust for mind control. Substance called Burundanga. They use a much more powerful extract called, Shocking Blue derived from that plant. Some of these Reptilians also work with rogue elements of Project Monarch. Abducted children for experimentation. They are master at abduction and Devil Dusting Mind Control. Discarded children are eaten through ritual. Blood drinking and so on. So you might be part of the Monarch Project.

Now, that's freaky because it directly pertains to my encounters with these people. I actually showed up at work one day, and there was a donation box placed on the front counter for finding MISSING CHILDREN. Each week a new picture of a missing child would get placed in the front of the box. It would say,"Missing since 1996." It was ridiculous because every kid I saw a picture of on the donation box would have been at least 23-28 years old by now. Which means whoever was changing the picture out kept putting in pictures of kids that were clearly already dead. Otherwise, they would have reunited with their family by now.

It's like they were kids they've killed. No joke. It pissed me off every time I looked at the box. That's precisely the reason they put it out. To fuck with me and piss me off.

Originally Posted by jakob_lemy_zook

Not all the Reptilians are evil. There is a sect called the Reptilian 6. I too have met the "old man." He told me things that he says are not in the Bible and said a great 2nd flood was coming not written in the Bible. The next day after talking to him at a park, with me and my wife I looked in the paper, the obituary section and there he was. A picture of him. He had told us where he had worked, lived his relatives and so on and it was all there. He had died the day before our conversation. Very strange. It may have been a shape shifter game play though. Or, maybe a Paranormal. Anyway, I copied your story and put it on my site. http://www.paranormalcinema.com/trumpet-templar

That's interesting. Maybe it is the same guy. It's crazy that you saw his picture in the obituary section the next day and it had him listed as dying the day before you saw him.

Thanks for sharing the story on your sight. I really need to fix the links on Part II. I might just post an updated version with working links in my next post. That way you can fix the links on the version you posted on your site.

Originally Posted by jakob_lemy_zook

Hang in there. They may tire of the game with you and move on.
They won't harm you physically. If they've put you in game play then your most likely liked.

I can understand what you're. It did seem like they had a certain amount of respect for me. Like enemies on a battlefield who have mutual respect for one another.

For me, it got the point where I started to actually feel sorry for them. It must be a miserable existence to have sustain life through such deceptive and elaborate means. It kind of made me start to appreciate my place in the Universe as a simple human being. Not look at it as some kind of burden or victimized state of being.

People always assume the Reptilians are superior to us. Which is the way I perceived it for the longest time. After being in direct contact with them for 12 months, I could clearly see this wasn't the case. The nature of Reptilian existence is very morbid and depressing. Not like the nature of human existence. Which can be quite enjoyable, at times.

Thanks again for sharing the story on your website. I'll repost the Parts with working links. The links help to illustrate my point. I can no longer edit my original post on this forum because the moderators told me that the option to edit post expires after a certain amount of time.

[metacomet]

dsl...

You are being discouraged for a reason. Ignore it.

I think you know what the reason is.

One of these members trying to sidetrack your thread and throwing a fit was at one time a supporter of 'LordReptoid' whose history I am willing to explain to you in private but I think it's against the rules to bring up such stuff in unrelated threads.

The other member calling you a liar and trying to laugh at you for 'trying to sound believable'... he has 12 posts. Suspicious much?

Anyway...

ignore the sidewinding, dude.

It doesn't matter if anyone believes you or not (almost all of us are open minded and willing to consider your story).

What 'they' will do is try to make you feel like you're not believed, that we think you're crazy etc.... just ignore it. We don't think your crazy, and some of us do believe you.

You've wasted enough time and text on the distracters.

This is a really interesting thread and you should just continue to share the experiences you've had!

[dsl22]

Here is Part II reposted with working links.


Part II

On November 24, 2006 I was visiting my parents in Dallas for Thanksgiving. My dad was always mildly interested in subjects pertaining to ETs. He openly displays multiple UFO books (among others) on the shelf in their living room . I started telling him about my experience with Zach. I started telling him about my suspicions of him. I literally told him that he might not be human. We talked for about 2 hours. Between 7 pm and 9 pm. I showed him this recording.

Area 51 : The Frantic Caller - YouTube

Area 51 : The Frantic Caller - YouTube

I attempted to turn up the volume I kept getting feedback through the speakers. They kept humming as if a microphone was attached the system. There actually was a microphone attached. It was from the live video connection on the web-cam. Nobody had used the web-cam in years. We failed to realize this, at the time.

The next morning I took my cellphone off of the charger. There was a new voice mail. Coincidentally, Zach had left me a voice mail at 8:13pm. This was right in the middle of my conversation with my father. A conversation where I accused Zach of possibly being a Reptilian shapeshifter. This was an interesting coincidence considering the circumstances. When I returned home for Christmas, the volume on the computer was still pushing feedback through the speakers. I looked at the volume controls. I thought about the web cam microphone. The microphone volume was jacked up all the way and the "mute" box was unchecked. I proceeded to check the "mute" box and the annoying feedback went away. This means the microphone from the web cam was turned on throughout the entire conversation with me father. Even, though we haven't used the web cam in over 2 years. Who turned on the microphone? My dad didn't. My mother is the only person in the house. She doesn't know what a web cam microphone is.

Here is where things start to get really interesting. It was now May of 2007. I was still on the fence regarding the existence of Reptilian shape shifters. However, I was gradually researching that angle more and more. I quit my previous job and started working at another restaurant. It was at this job that the Reptilians revealed themselves to me. All of the employees, including managers where Reptilian shape shifters. In July 2007, I found this video on youtube. It looked exactly like what I previously witnessed in Zach's eyes on that one occasion.

David Icke = Occult Satanist -The New Age Deception & Cointelpro - YouTube

David Icke = Occult Satanist -The New Age Deception & Cointelpro - YouTube

This was proof enough that Zach wasn't human for me. Seeing his eyes shape shift before I ever believed in the existence of shape shifters was enough for me believe in their existence. I was visiting my parents in August 2007. I explained to them that Zach wasn't human. 30 minutes later I received a phone call from Zach! This was the first call I received from Zach since November 24th, 2006. What do you expect me to believe at this point?

This is where things start to get bizarre. The employees at my new job started harassing me. They started making specific references to information pertaining to Reptilian shape shifters. However, I NEVER ONCE MENTIONED AN INTEREST IN THESE SUBJECTS!!!!!!!!

It was as if they could read my mind. Which is precisely what researchers, witnesses, and whistle blowers claim of Reptilian shape shifters. They are extremely telepathic. Every memory, every secret, every thought can be attained by a Reptilian shape shifters. It was as like the reptilians were warning me to back off. Here is a photo of 2 of the individuals I'm accusing of being Reptilian shape shifters.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=15752503

The girl on the right is named "Arwyn." She has 2 intertwining snake tattoos running up her left arm. She wore snake earrings on a daily basis for the entire 12 months span of time that I worked with her. She would even show up to work with a pair of sunglasses that had snakes as the wire frames. Her purse was snake skinned as well. The redheaded women on the left is Brandy. She has a tattoo of 2 lizards on her right ankle.

In July, 2007 I started to believe in the existence of Reptilian shape shifters. Immediately after this the 2 women in that photo started harassing me. As well as every other employee at that job. They would constantly make references to blood drinking, cannibalism, pedophilia, and even ETs. For example, I overheard the two women in that photo having a conversation one day. Brandy was saying,"The price of everything is going up. Gas, cocaine, BLOOD." She quickly stopped when she realized that I heard her. She then tried to say," I mean cocaine. The price of cocaine has gone up." However, she knew she was caught. I was leaning up against a crate of marinara sauce. Arwyn walked over to me and said," Hey David. Get away from that. That is my weekly supply of blood. I need that to last me all week." To which I replied," Blood?" She said," Yeah. My blood. I need that to last me all week." I was speechless. I just walked off. This took place in May of 2008. After numerous strange things happened with these people.

Here is another example. I was walking to my car to go on a delivery. The manager and 3 other employees were outside smoking a cig. The orders were piling up. I jokingly told them to get back to work. As I was shutting my car door, I distinctly heard the manager say,"Okay. We're gonna go mutilate some pizzas. After that we're gonna go mutilate some children." This was another reference to information pertaining to Reptilian shape shifters.

Here is another example. In July 2007, after I convinced myself this stuff was real, two employees made a reference to this kind of information right in front of me. One of them was named "Patrick." The other was named, "Freddy." Patrick picked up a container of BBQ sauce. There was a picture of a black guy on the front. Patrick picked up the sauce, looked over at Freddy and said," Stubbs BBQ sauce. Secret ingredient WHITE PEOPLE." They both snickered and looked over at me. I'm Caucasian with blonde hair and blue eyes. Patrick was an Italian from Boston and Freddy was from Honduras. This was clearly a reference to Reptilians that prefer the genetics of blond haired, blue individuals such as myself.

Patrick is the lead singer of this band.

THE GENTLEMEN'S SOCIAL CLUB-I Get Around at Red Eyed Fly - YouTube

THE GENTLEMEN'S SOCIAL CLUB-I Get Around at Red Eyed Fly - YouTube

In Feb. 2008, I actually started to speak about this on a forum called Tooltabs.net. I explained everything on that forum that I have explained hear. Immediately after making my first post expressing my claims the harassment picked up drastically. I showed up to work one day to get my pay check. It was nowhere to be found. On the dry erase board it said," Thank you David. Thanks for your donation." Employees said they heard my named mentioned on 101.5X. Which is the biggest radio station in Austin. Patrick is good friends with the DJs. Patrick and Brandy took me aside later that night. They told me that somebody heard my named mentioned on 101.5 FM for giving a donation to a BLOOD DRIVE!!!! Keep in mind. My paycheck was missing. Brandy was like," So that wasn't you." I replied ,"No." Patrick said," HMM. That's strange. It must have been your doppelganger."

I was pissed off at this point. Patrick said,"Cmon Brandy. Come outside with me. I need to talk to you." They walk outside. Arwyn was at the front counter. For some strange reason, she decided to bring an X-Files VHS set to work with her that day. It was sitting on the front counter in plain view. Brandy walks back into the restaurant. She comes over to me and says," You better be careful." The X-Files VHS set was sitting on the counter right next to her. She had an extremely serious look on her face. I walked off. They were clearly warning me not to talk about them.

There was a time when I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine about all of this. I was expressing my anger over the situation. I actually said that I wanted to punch that girl Arwyn in the face. The next day I was working with Arwyn. Patrick came over to me and said," Man David. Don't you just want to punch Arwyn in the face sometimes." I was replied," No. What are you talking about?" Brandy said," Oh, there just playing around with each other." I was talking with Arwyn a couple of months prior to this. She said," Sometimes when I watch the X-files, I get all paranoid and start looking for bugs behind the pictures around the house." After this experience I understood the significance of her statement. They could hear what I was saying ( or at least knew that I said it) in a personal conversation I was having with a good friend of mine.

The company that provided the dough for this restaurant is called "The New World Bakery."Their logo is similar to the Royal Family Seal.

http://www.thenewworldbakery.com/

This isn't everything, I've experienced. It's only about half of everything that has happened over the last 3 years. I'll be back with more later.