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Old 22-09-2007, 05:27 PM   #21
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Nice to see so many of these inventions comming forth I hope they will give up covering it up and let some of it be mass produced soon.
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Old 22-09-2007, 05:40 PM   #22
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Using Tesla and others tecnology we can give free energy to whole planet earth. Milions and milions of watts free. And this fools make war for petroleum!
Petroleum is the distraction,the powers that be would crap themselves if the truth were known,where would there power be then?
We are living a lie,this is not the true nature of things,we are being manipulated something rotten,but most seem to be happy in their ignorance.
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Old 22-09-2007, 05:52 PM   #23
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Yep there is without a doubt sources and knowledge of alternative energy, we are being sold big time by the present system just because it keeps just a hand fall (the ruling elite) insanely rich. On top of that they now have the global warming scam up and running on us! brainwashing people to feel guilty about their so called carbon print when its them in the first place that choose tu use fossil fuels, anybody seen that pathetic carbon print government add? well anyway just tu be a different i named my boat global warmer (it has 2 engines) yu should see the look on some peoples faces when i'm filling her up or towing her around they have all totally bought this global warming scam haven't they! not tu say that i am not aware of fossils fuels causing some environmental damage mind, but nothing on the scale that most people are being mislead tu believe.
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Old 22-09-2007, 06:19 PM   #24
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Yep there is without a doubt sources and knowledge of alternative energy, we are being sold big time by the present system just because it keeps just a hand fall (the ruling elite) insanely rich. On top of that they now have the global warming scam up and running on us! brainwashing people to feel guilty about their so called carbon print when its them in the first place that choose tu use fossil fuels, anybody seen that pathetic carbon print government add? well anyway just tu be a different i named my boat global warmer (it has 2 engines) yu should see the look on some peoples faces when i'm filling her up or towing her around they have all totally bought this global warming scam haven't they! not tu say that i am not aware of fossils fuels causing some environmental damage mind, but nothing on the scale that most people are being mislead tu believe.
...exactly...
the government,or who controls it,have quite deliberately shifted the blame on to us ordinary folk with the carbon footprint bollocks.
People need to realise that the oceans create more CO2 than we could ever create naturally.
global warming is natural,its got not nowt to do with man,we are just another species occupying the planet...........mother nature is bigger than us,cold.she may be,she has no love for the current tennant or any other past or present.
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Old 24-09-2007, 01:23 PM   #25
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Petroleum is the distraction,the powers that be would crap themselves if the truth were known,where would there power be then?
We are living a lie,this is not the true nature of things,we are being manipulated something rotten,but most seem to be happy in their ignorance.
If they only knew then they wouldn't be happy! Ignorance is the key to the whole scam. When the secret fianally comes out it's going to blow our minds!

You're dead right. It's so naive when people get this idea that the energy companies are "Desperately seeking Free Energy... honest!" It would like a Turkey trying to invent Christmas! What are we going to do? just go up to the chairman of Shell and say "Sorry, your services are no longer required"? Would they tolerate that?
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Old 24-09-2007, 02:33 PM   #26
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Companies would still need to deliver and provide an infrastructure for energy so what would it matter where they got it from? Free energy doesn't mean free cost. It means producing energy from nowhere or extremely cheaply and without cost to the environment (or that last clause should be a prerequisite).

The only real problem would be if people could create free energy machines and install them cheaply at home, but let's be serious. If this was possible then we would all be able to use plans off the net from someone who has created a free energy machine and right now you can't even get those.

If free energy existed the oil companies could even hoodwink us. Pretending to drill for oil when they are burning nothing of the sort and make even more profit by delivering us energy they are making from nowhere. In all serious, I don't think people have really thought it through other than thinking that the major oil companies would lose out. I don't necessary believe that to be the case. I think it's more likely there are no working prototypes of free energy.
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Old 24-09-2007, 03:43 PM   #27
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Companies would still need to deliver and provide an infrastructure for energy so what would it matter where they got it from? Free energy doesn't mean free cost. It means producing energy from nowhere or extremely cheaply and without cost to the environment (or that last clause should be a prerequisite).
It might not mean free cost, but it doesn’t mean extremely reduced cost. If what investigators like Stephen Greer are saying is true, we’re talking about generators small enough to keep in a cupboard, that cost a relative pittance, that could fuel everything in your house indefinitely, totally free of charge.

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The only real problem would be if people could create free energy machines and install them cheaply at home, but let's be serious. If this was possible then we would all be able to use plans off the net from someone who has created a free energy machine and right now you can't even get those.
This scenario is what would happen. So the power companies, instead of creaming thousands of pounds a year off us for an energy source they completely control, we have small machines that cost a few hundred pounds that are one time only sales. The only running profit that could be made would come through maintenance and repair and some of these devices are said to be very reliable, being fitted to craft that travel through space and even other dimensions. these generators would be completely under private control. We'd own the source of our own power! A SUV can cost less than £20,000, but in its lifetime on the road it will guzzle £100,000 worth of petrol. Are you seriously planning on going up to the chairman of Shell and saying: “Sorry, your services are no longer required.”

What’s more, this issue is not just about money. the fossil fuel industry is the pivotal engine of the global political status quo. The introduction of Free Energy would have effects that we can only begin to guess at. It would immediately end the dominance of the West over the Third World. This would be a good thing for most of us, a very good thing. but if you’re in power then it would mean the deat of your empire. Of course the powers-that-be will try to suppress Free energy; it’s a poison to them! The Elite know that for them official Disclosure is effectively an act of suicide.

It's not just about how Free Energy will make their rule impossible for its inherent properties, but also through the fact that with Disclosure will come the bombshell that Black Budget science developed Free Energy at least 60 years ago, and probably quite a bit earlier. So all the environmental destruction, all the species that have died out and forests that have been cut down, all the pollution, all the filthy chimneys and deaths from poisoning, all the six-lane highways and pylons... have been for nothing! They could have been prevented with just five words: "We know about Free Energy". Will we ever trust the elite again? The Elite know that the question is rhetorical.

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If free energy existed the oil companies could even hoodwink us. Pretending to drill for oil when they are burning nothing of the sort and make even more profit by delivering us energy they are making from nowhere. In all serious, I don't think people have really thought it through other than thinking that the major oil companies would lose out. I don't necessary believe that to be the case. I think it's more likely there are no working prototypes of free energy.
This kind of scam is an amusing idea, but impossible. Without the need for centralized power station-based electricity generation then there will be power lines, no wires, no pylons. It’s hard to see where they could disguise their source
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Old 24-09-2007, 04:08 PM   #28
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does anyone know where you can buy a free energy device to say, charge your phone or anything infact?
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Old 24-09-2007, 05:03 PM   #29
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does anyone know where you can buy a free energy device to say, charge your phone or anything infact?
Many such devices are advertized across the net. As far as I know they are all amateurish and unworkable and many are fakes. The real Free Energy deivces tend not to be shouted from the rooftops in that fashion! Things like the Searl-effect machine and the Scahuberger implosion coil have been classified by the govt, like the Nazis did their flying saucer project. In some cases, like Frank Searl and Wilhelm Reich, the inventers end up in jail!
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Old 24-09-2007, 05:35 PM   #30
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very interesting
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Old 24-09-2007, 06:01 PM   #31
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does anyone know where you can buy a free energy device to say, charge your phone or anything infact?

www.keelynet.com
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Old 24-09-2007, 07:06 PM   #32
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Anyone want to get ahold of the joe cell parts and instructions/book can check this site http://www.nutech2000.com I might just attempt to try this one day (with some help)!

If the link doesn't work just google joe cell parts and the website nutech2000 will come up.

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Old 25-09-2007, 06:35 PM   #33
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Anyone want to get ahold of the joe cell parts and instructions/book can check this site http://www.nutech2000.com I might just attempt to try this one day (with some help)!

If the link doesn't work just google joe cell parts and the website nutech2000 will come up.
Dont build the joe cell it dosnt work, you'll keep getting wet when u have to take it apart! try a meyer replication or some of the others detailed in the warcar group or on panacea uni website- trust me i tried!
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