Is swine flu a double bluff? - Page 2

radford · 14-07-2009, 08:03 PM

Just to remind you the current Swine Flu is weak and has caused fewer deaths than seasonal flu by a long way.

If it mutates into a deadly disease in the Autumn/Fall then "how" will that happen - it is unlikely to happen in the Whole world because mutant strains will be fairly local.

Therefore as it stands it would be totally stupid to take a vaccine against a Swine Flu which is not much worse than the common cold.

If the country you are in becomes a hot bed for the mutant strain then it is worth considering I suppose but only if you see people dying who are healthy.

The best thing to do is be patient and see what happens. You are in no danger from Swine Flu at the moment. All of those who have died and been tested had underlying health problems. The latest 3 in the UK are being tested. But to take a vaccine when only 3 people in the whole country have died when it is supposed to be an epidemic seems to me like an over-reaction.

Therefore based on common sense taking the vaccine is a bit like taking a load of Paracetemol on the offchance you might get a bad headache one day in the future. It is going to do you no good and might actually hurt you - so wait until YOU KNOW you HAVE to take a vaccine. Even then it is worth considering that it probably wont protect you because it has not been tested and so may only have a small chance of success against the Swine flu.

I will prefer to use my own God given immunity and pray. I am not afraid of flu and never have been. This is a media scare and if the media was not reporting this then I would bet it would not have effected any of your lives in the main.

Enjoy life and lets stop them scaring us into actions that are not necessary.

markas32 · 14-07-2009, 08:06 PM

My brother has just been told his daughter my neice has swine flu, my neighbour recently got sent home for it, aswas his wife and kids.
However the big thing is none have been tested, but instead been diagnosed from someone on the end of the phone nhs direct, can we really say this is growing as fast as they say when it isnt even being tested for.
What do you think

timelord · 14-07-2009, 08:08 PM

There is talk in my workplace about this jab being made compulsory for it's workers, and refusal will lead to misconduct and potentially loss of job.

Of course our union has decided to side with management and not with the people who pay for it to represent our best interests.

the_dishwasher · 14-07-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by markas32

My brother has just been told his daughter my neice has swine flu, my neighbour recently got sent home for it, aswas his wife and kids.
However the big thing is none have been tested, but instead been diagnosed from someone on the end of the phone nhs direct, can we really say this is growing as fast as they say when it isnt even being tested for.
What do you think

yep there doing this to everyone, if you have normal flu symptoms - oh no! You've got swine flu! I would try not to worry too much, even if it is most people are fine within a week and dont really suffer anything other than a few days at home

the_dishwasher · 14-07-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by timelord

There is talk in my workplace about this jab being made compulsory for it's workers, and refusal will lead to misconduct and potentially loss of job.

Of course our union has decided to side with management and not with the people who pay for it to represent our best interests.

DOes that mean your going to take it? I still wouldnt have it and walk out on the job , but thats just me personally.

skunksmash · 14-07-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by strt

Triple bluff? They know that we know that they can use this vaccination as real medicine with no tricks so they microchip it anyway?

god......where does it truly end.

it is a real mind f**k, how many steps ahead could we possibly get with limited resources, contacts & money..??, TPTB could be ten steps ahead & we feel liberated b/c we just jumped forward by 2

, they have unlimited ability, 1000's of ''think tanks'' producing endless scenarios...

all we have is Google (which is owned by them), various book outlets & the odd insider contact who may have the tiniest shred of a story...

but i do think for some reason its all about to end.....

SK

mightyoak · 14-07-2009, 08:22 PM

My Father in law is in Hospital at the moment He very seriously poorly The docs ain't give him long to live bless him He is 82 tho so had a good innings.

However the point I'm posting is to tell you the ward he was on, which was a respiratory ward. HAD one case off swine flu 3 DAYS ago They now have five cases and have move father in law along with a few others, to differing wards. The ward is now going to used for the forthcoming influx off patients with swineflu. As told to us by the "Director off nurses" The head honcho apparently.

radford · 14-07-2009, 08:24 PM

Pre-empt this vaccination :

1. Decide to have swine flu

2. Take lemsip to work and sniffle - cover yourself in Vicks Vaporrub so you smell flu like.

3. Tell your colleagues you are going to your GP

4. Ring your GP and tell them you have Flu

5. They dont do a test and tell you that you have Swine Flu

6. Take 5 days off work because the Doctor has told you that you have had Swine Flu.

7. Come back and you have a medical record that says that you have had swine flu and therefore you dont need the vaccine because you have the anti-bodies already. So they dont sack you.

All totally above board and all in line with current Government policy to say that anyone who has a cold has Swine Flu in order to PANIC everyone else - you will be helping the panic but save yourself the vaccine.

Simple :-)

PS and you get 5 days to put your feet up and boost your immune system by resting.

banphrionsalola · 14-07-2009, 08:25 PM

A "Swine Flu Group" has been setup in our workplace

I nearly fell over today when my boss told me. He says its just a precautionary step that Heads of Departments are identifying key areas of services that need to stay up if less staff in and they will put a plan in place to keep show on the road.

the_dishwasher · 14-07-2009, 08:26 PM

@radford

lol! Now this is how we should be thinking about everything! How can we make work it for us? Well Done!

beldazar · 14-07-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banphrionsalola

A "Swine Flu Group" has been setup in our workplace

I nearly fell over today when my boss told me. He says its just a precautionary step that Heads of Departments are identifying key areas of services that need to stay up if less staff in and they will put a plan in place to keep show on the road.

radford · 14-07-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightyoak

My Father in law is in Hospital at the moment He very seriously poorly The docs ain't give him long to live bless him He is 82 tho so had a good innings.

However the point I'm posting is to tell you the ward he was on, which was a respiratory ward. HAD one case off swine flu 3 DAYS ago They now have five cases and have move father in law along with a few others, to differing wards. The ward is now going to used for the forthcoming influx off patients with swineflu. As told to us by the "Director off nurses" The head honcho apparently.

THat sounds real - supposedly it is effecting the lungs according to what I have read.

5 cases at a hospital or even one ward is still not that many people. IN normal flu epidemics hospitals often have to turn over 3 or 4 wards especially to old people with flu.

Take care.

the_dishwasher · 14-07-2009, 08:34 PM

I dont know if anyone remebers, but one or 2 years ago, the BBC ran one of their Oh so informative Panarama Scare-shows. In it, it went on about the inevitable on-coming pandemic of bird-flu, and how it would most likely kill young ppl, thru there immune systems, as being young and healthy their immune system would over (which it said would affect the lungs most) by creating too many antibodies and the bodies would end up killing off its own lungs.

timelord · 14-07-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the_dishwasher

DOes that mean your going to take it? I still wouldnt have it and walk out on the job , but thats just me personally.

I'm not taking the vaccine.

candykorn_85 · 14-07-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radford

Pre-empt this vaccination :

1. Decide to have swine flu

2. Take lemsip to work and sniffle - cover yourself in Vicks Vaporrub so you smell flu like.

3. Tell your colleagues you are going to your GP

4. Ring your GP and tell them you have Flu

5. They dont do a test and tell you that you have Swine Flu

6. Take 5 days off work because the Doctor has told you that you have had Swine Flu.

7. Come back and you have a medical record that says that you have had swine flu and therefore you dont need the vaccine because you have the anti-bodies already. So they dont sack you.

All totally above board and all in line with current Government policy to say that anyone who has a cold has Swine Flu in order to PANIC everyone else - you will be helping the panic but save yourself the vaccine.

Simple :-)

PS and you get 5 days to put your feet up and boost your immune system by resting.

Then, what happens when you really do get the flu? hahaha..

radford · 14-07-2009, 08:38 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8150609.stm

The current scare was caused by someone who did not die of swine flu.

The girl did not either in my view.

Still no one has died without an underlying cause in the UK.

radford · 14-07-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by candykorn_85

Then, what happens when you really do get the flu? hahaha..

LOL

Good point - say you now have seasonal flu. They arent testing so no one will ever know :-)

wakeuptime · 14-07-2009, 08:57 PM

For anyone even considering taking the shot --- the Mayo Clinic recently did a study that showed you're three times more likely to get the flu if you take a flu shot. That doesn't mention the mercury and all the other junk they sneak into these things.

Jab free world.

whitenight639 · 14-07-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kryst

I've also been thinking and worrying about this lately.

In my mind there are only a few options:

The full-blown virus is actually in all the vaccination shots *seems unlikely as the mass murder of the 'home populations' would massively reduce productivity for the NWO*
The full-blown virus is in some of the vaccination shots, making it possible to target and kill specific groups or people with no way of being accountable*possible and probably would happen anyway*
The whole epidemic and vaccination is a fear mongering exercise with no real threat *possible but seems highly unlikely at this stage*
The virus is real and the illuminati/NWO are carrying out their global mass-culling exercise, but the vaccination will protect the main herd while killing their opponents *this seems to be the most logical, as the NWO could blame people for not taking it and wouldn't be accountable in the eyes of the herd. They would be left with a race mostly consistent of sheeple genes*

To me, I just cannot ignore the fact that only people that are loyal to the government would take the vaccine. Yes, the flu could mutate, but if it is genetically engineered, an almost perfect vaccine or cure could also be genetically engineered.

If the vaccination isn't 'real', why would they plan to vaccinate the entire population? Why would they kill their own tax-cattle and leave the rest of the world unharmed?

All those people who don't trust the government or are against it and currently pose a threat may react in a similar way. Their first reaction to this vaccine would be 'NO WAY AM I TAKING THAT CRAP!' - a clever way to selectively breed compliant livestock.

I also remember reading the 21. steps of the illuminati agenda - it said they wanted to remove 'none-productive consumers' (people without taxable jobs, such as the masses in 3rd world countries). Surely it's much easier to selectively save than selectively destroy? It's just like farming.

Personally, I think this is a double bluff. I'm taking the vaccine along with all my friends and family. If I die, at least I won't die alone.

ok thinking about this..

1. if this swine flu has been genetically engineered (highly likely from what ive read) i would imagine they have taken many years to perfect this virus, but judging by the reported death toll from it so far its either not been made to mutate just yet, maybe it has a very long incubation period where its realy nasty stuff happens? (im no doctor it might not be possible). Or maybe its designed to make people infirtile or less furtile, or maybe thats the job of the vaccines? see i think they will try kill many but i imagine they dont want totaly anarchy right now cos all us 6 billion workers are keeping there asses in chartered planed and luxaries we cant even imagine.

What i do know is all the toxic vaccines we know of do pass lengthy tests, so there not designed to kill too many or peeps wouldnt take em, however this vaccine is bieng rushed thru in 5 days!!

I also know that while this virus may have been genetically fucked with it is still a biological thing, unlinke a chemical cocktail of god knows what, ill take my chances with the more natural!! n pitty any fool that tries to stick me with that shit.

whitenight639 · 14-07-2009, 09:18 PM

speaking to my friend today and her mates brother or sister have swine flu so im expecting to get it in the next few days.

14-07-2009, 08:06 PM	#22
markas32 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 486	swine flu is it a con My brother has just been told his daughter my neice has swine flu, my neighbour recently got sent home for it, aswas his wife and kids. However the big thing is none have been tested, but instead been diagnosed from someone on the end of the phone nhs direct, can we really say this is growing as fast as they say when it isnt even being tested for. What do you think

14-07-2009, 08:22 PM	#27
mightyoak Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 429	My Father in law is in Hospital at the moment He very seriously poorly The docs ain't give him long to live bless him He is 82 tho so had a good innings. However the point I'm posting is to tell you the ward he was on, which was a respiratory ward. HAD one case off swine flu 3 DAYS ago They now have five cases and have move father in law along with a few others, to differing wards. The ward is now going to used for the forthcoming influx off patients with swineflu. As told to us by the "Director off nurses" The head honcho apparently. __________________ The most important thing I’ve learned is not to trust learned people at face value, but seek a second, third or fourth perspective, oftentimes from other, equally uneducated people like myself. Humans, especially many college educated ones, possess a predictable tendency to lie, cheat and steal, or otherwise hoodwink lesser educated or more gullible souls..............

14-07-2009, 08:24 PM	#28
radford Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 388	Have a SWINE FLU week !!! Pre-empt this vaccination : 1. Decide to have swine flu 2. Take lemsip to work and sniffle - cover yourself in Vicks Vaporrub so you smell flu like. 3. Tell your colleagues you are going to your GP 4. Ring your GP and tell them you have Flu 5. They dont do a test and tell you that you have Swine Flu 6. Take 5 days off work because the Doctor has told you that you have had Swine Flu. 7. Come back and you have a medical record that says that you have had swine flu and therefore you dont need the vaccine because you have the anti-bodies already. So they dont sack you. All totally above board and all in line with current Government policy to say that anyone who has a cold has Swine Flu in order to PANIC everyone else - you will be helping the panic but save yourself the vaccine. Simple :-) PS and you get 5 days to put your feet up and boost your immune system by resting.

14-07-2009, 08:25 PM	#29
banphrionsalola Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Eire Posts: 106	A "Swine Flu Group" has been setup in our workplace I nearly fell over today when my boss told me. He says its just a precautionary step that Heads of Departments are identifying key areas of services that need to stay up if less staff in and they will put a plan in place to keep show on the road. __________________ “Yesterday is but a dream, tomorrow but a vision. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well, therefore, to this day. Such is the salutation to the dawn.”

14-07-2009, 08:26 PM	#30
the_dishwasher Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Huddersfield, UK Posts: 107	@radford lol! Now this is how we should be thinking about everything! How can we make work it for us? Well Done! Last edited by the_dishwasher; 14-07-2009 at 08:27 PM.

14-07-2009, 08:03 PM	#21
radford Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 388	Just to remind you the current Swine Flu is weak and has caused fewer deaths than seasonal flu by a long way. If it mutates into a deadly disease in the Autumn/Fall then "how" will that happen - it is unlikely to happen in the Whole world because mutant strains will be fairly local. Therefore as it stands it would be totally stupid to take a vaccine against a Swine Flu which is not much worse than the common cold. If the country you are in becomes a hot bed for the mutant strain then it is worth considering I suppose but only if you see people dying who are healthy. The best thing to do is be patient and see what happens. You are in no danger from Swine Flu at the moment. All of those who have died and been tested had underlying health problems. The latest 3 in the UK are being tested. But to take a vaccine when only 3 people in the whole country have died when it is supposed to be an epidemic seems to me like an over-reaction. Therefore based on common sense taking the vaccine is a bit like taking a load of Paracetemol on the offchance you might get a bad headache one day in the future. It is going to do you no good and might actually hurt you - so wait until YOU KNOW you HAVE to take a vaccine. Even then it is worth considering that it probably wont protect you because it has not been tested and so may only have a small chance of success against the Swine flu. I will prefer to use my own God given immunity and pray. I am not afraid of flu and never have been. This is a media scare and if the media was not reporting this then I would bet it would not have effected any of your lives in the main. Enjoy life and lets stop them scaring us into actions that are not necessary.

14-07-2009, 08:08 PM	#23
timelord Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 648	There is talk in my workplace about this jab being made compulsory for it's workers, and refusal will lead to misconduct and potentially loss of job. Of course our union has decided to side with management and not with the people who pay for it to represent our best interests.

14-07-2009, 08:34 PM	#33
the_dishwasher Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Huddersfield, UK Posts: 107	I dont know if anyone remebers, but one or 2 years ago, the BBC ran one of their Oh so informative Panarama Scare-shows. In it, it went on about the inevitable on-coming pandemic of bird-flu, and how it would most likely kill young ppl, thru there immune systems, as being young and healthy their immune system would over (which it said would affect the lungs most) by creating too many antibodies and the bodies would end up killing off its own lungs.

14-07-2009, 08:38 PM	#36
radford Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 388	Gp did not have swine flu http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8150609.stm The current scare was caused by someone who did not die of swine flu. The girl did not either in my view. Still no one has died without an underlying cause in the UK.

14-07-2009, 08:57 PM	#38
wakeuptime Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,513	For anyone even considering taking the shot --- the Mayo Clinic recently did a study that showed you're three times more likely to get the flu if you take a flu shot. That doesn't mention the mercury and all the other junk they sneak into these things. Jab free world.

14-07-2009, 09:18 PM	#40
whitenight639 Premier Subscribers Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,138	speaking to my friend today and her mates brother or sister have swine flu so im expecting to get it in the next few days. __________________ "The ultimate ignorance is the rejection of something you know nothing about and refuse to investigate" "The only way to make a dream come true is to wake up!"