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Old 22-05-2009, 11:21 PM   #1
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Was Darwin a Mason?

After a bit of online searching, the answer may be a "YES". Is this part of the reason why there is so much who har surrounding him at the moment..and now the "missing link". His son and Grandpa were Masons, so most likely he was as well.

With this info, does it change people's views on the validity of his findings, i.e. some or all of it, may have been a darstardly plan, to further the illuminati agenda??

..or am I barking up wrong trees here? Just a thought, really...

I found this article..

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=S...esult&resnum=6

..apologies if this subject has already been discussed here.
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Old 23-05-2009, 12:09 AM   #2
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This passage reportedly from Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, as quoted in John Daniel's book Scarlet and the Beast Volume II, discusses the Darwin-Masonic connection:

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Before coming to Derby in 1788, Dr. [Erasmus] Darwin had been made a Mason in the famous Time Immemorial Lodge of Cannongate Kilwinning, No. 2, of Scotland. Sir Francis Darwin, one of the Doctor's sons, was made a Mason in Tyrian Lodge, No. 253, at Derby, in 1807 or 1808. His son Reginald was made a Mason in Tyrian Lodge in 1804. The name of Charles Darwin does not appear on the rolls of the Lodge but it is very possible that he, like Francis, was a Mason.
I hope this helps.
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Old 23-05-2009, 12:41 AM   #3
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This passage reportedly from Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, as quoted in John Daniel's book Scarlet and the Beast Volume II, discusses the Darwin-Masonic connection:



I hope this helps.
Thanx for the reply grandsecretary.

Why do you think his name is not on the official roles?...if the others were?

Intriguing !
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Why do you think his name is not on the official roles?...if the others were?
Probably because he was not a Freemason. In his many writings he never mentioned being a Mason, there is no record of him ever having been initiated, and no other Mason ever mentioned that he ever saw Darwin in a Masonic Lodge.
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He was well into eugenics and bloodline breeding.....the Darwins and Wegdewoods intermarried for generations......that's the top freemason way.

.a book,...."The Next Million Years" by Charles Galton Darwin is supposed to be a NWO blueprint....it's on my list of must reads.
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He was well into eugenics and bloodline breeding.....the Darwins and Wegdewoods intermarried for generations......that's the top freemason way.
Nonsense. There's nothing in Freemasonry about eugenics or intermarriage.
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Thanx for the reply grandsecretary.

Why do you think his name is not on the official roles?...if the others were?

Intriguing !
Well there could be many reasons.

1) The rolls referred to are the rolls of The Grand Lodge of Scotland. He may have joined a lodge elsewhere.

2) He may not have been interested in, or had the time to join, a masonic lodge.

3) What cannot be denied is that the males in his family were freemasons, he was surrounded by freemasons as close colleagues and friends.

There is no doubt that even if he was not a Mason, that freemasons had a great influence upon his life.
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Apparently Newton was also a Freemason. There's even a Lodge named after him. It was said that Mazort was a member of the Illuminati (or some other organisation), I think mainly due to the symbolism on his memos.
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Apparently Newton was also a Freemason. There's even a Lodge named after him. It was said that Mazort was a member of the Illuminati (or some other organisation), I think mainly due to the symbolism on his memos.
Mozart became a Master Mason in Lodge Beneficence in Vienna 1785.

While it is not known exactly when he was initiated into the Illuminati, it seems probable that he was a member. He was a close friend of both Goethe and Adam Weishaupt, and his opera Die Zauberflote or "The Magic Flute" champions the Illuminati as the bringers of freedom and enlightenment.
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This painting is reputed to be of the Initiation of Mozart in Vienna.



Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756-1791)

He was initiated in Lodge Zur Wohltätigkeit on 14th December, 1784, passed in Zur Wahren and Eintracht Lodge on 7th January, 1785, and raised in his mother lodge, Zur Wohltätigkeit on 22nd April, 1785.

Wohltätigkeit (die): n. beneficence, kindness, doing of good, charity, giving of money or other goods to the poor.
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Mozart became a Master Mason in Lodge Beneficence in Vienna 1785.

While it is not known exactly when he was initiated into the Illuminati, it seems probable that he was a member. He was a close friend of both Goethe and Adam Weishaupt, and his opera Die Zauberflote or "The Magic Flute" champions the Illuminati as the bringers of freedom and enlightenment.
Interesting.
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Isaiah Berlin, Chicheley Professor of Social and Political Theory at the University of Oxford.

Henry Chicheley (1363-1443) Archbishop of Canterbury, Ecclesiastical Doctor of Laws, Diplomat, was born the son of a yeoman of Higham Ferrers and succeeded to a burbage. He was educated at Winchester and was amongst the earliest batch of scholars sent from the College to New College, Oxford.


In 1396, the Abbot of Colchester presents him the Parsonage of St Stephen's, Walbrook. His brother Robert had restored the church. 1397, made Archdeacon of Dorset by Richard Mitford, Bishop of Salisbury. 1399, Parson of Sherston, Wiltshire.

In 1400, he was appointed Canon of Lichfield. 1402, Archdeacon of Salisbury, Prebendary of Nantgwyly in the College of Abergwilly, Wales. 1403, Chancellor of Salisbury and canonries in the nun's churches of Shaftesbury and Wilton. 1408, Consecrated to the Bishopric of St David's. 1413, King's Ambassador to France, installed Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of All England at York. 1414, Archbishop of Canterbury. 1419 & 1420 King's Ambassador to France. Built the Cistercian College of St Bernard, now St John's, Oxford.

1437, established All Souls College, Oxford with King Henry VI as co-founder. The college statutes were largely modelled on those of new College where Chicheley was once a Fellow. Chicheley's two-fold aim was that his college should produce a learned clerical 'militia' to serve Church and State, and that it should also be a chantry where the Fellows should pray for the souls of the faithful departed and of those killed in the French wars, particularly members of the House of Lancaster with which he had close political connections.

The chair of Modern History at Oxford is still known as" The Chicheley Professor". He died of old age and infirmity at Oxford in 1443.
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