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Old 30-04-2009, 05:22 PM   #41
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Thanks for that Rense interview with Tim Ritfan?
That guy says it all! He puts this whole agenda in a nutshell. I must check out his website again.
Everything else is just tinkering around the edges. David Icke could learn so much from this guy. We all can.

What he is saying puts everybody else in the shade.

Listen to that interview everybody.
Hy Tyler,

Can you post a link to the interview with Tim Ritfan. I have search Rense for it and can't find it.
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Old 30-04-2009, 05:32 PM   #42
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WARNING - VERY DEEP RABBIT HOLE AHEAD:

hour 1 Jeff Rense with Tim Rifat 28.4.09

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/...042809_hr1.mp3

hour 2 Jeff and Tim Rifat -

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/...042809_hr2.mp3

accompanying webpage - be warned once more! - If you're not familiar with the REAL satanic agenda - listen to p2 first then I dare you not to want to listen to p1!!

http://www.mindovermatter.ru/RVScien...adio_show.html
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Old 30-04-2009, 05:57 PM   #43
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What is that? First the Obama´s Air Force One over Manhattan, now a car that "accidentally" crush near royal family?

This world is fu***crazy right now!
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Old 30-04-2009, 06:22 PM   #44
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Phew - good job the obelisk was there to soak up all that FEAR and emotion into the Earth grid eh...

....and on the eve of Beltane/Baaltane, 1st May!!! Dance around that obelisk now like a good pagan!!


another sacrifice?!
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Old 30-04-2009, 07:24 PM   #45
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There are some interesting shapes around this area including pyramid shapes and what I also see as an inverted Kabalah diagram







Ok , I know this is pure speculation but I just thought the sahpes looked familiar and then I remmebered the Kabalah diagram. The region looks loike an inverted Kabalah diagram to me.




Het Loo palace


In my inverted Kabalah diagram, the "De Naade" obelisk that was hit by the car is representing the "Tiferet" spot on the diagram. I have no clue what these things mean (or even if my diagram is purely inccorect speculation).



If my idea is correct (I stress that I am not claiming this to be the truth) I wonder what the black car hitting that obelisk would mean. I also wonder if an inverted Kabalah has significance.

I wonder if that obelisk is on some point on ley lines or whatever.

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The whole design of these shapes appears to be about 1 degree off from north/south alignment ... I wonder what this means?
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Old 30-04-2009, 07:30 PM   #46
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Here's a link to google maps for the area to see the shapes more clearly

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&sourc...87461&t=k&z=14
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Old 30-04-2009, 08:30 PM   #47
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Interesting post..

If you are correct the obelisk is indeed supposed to symbolise the Tiferet.

Wikipedia says the following: It has the common association of "Spirituality", "Balance", "Integration", "Beauty", "Miracles", "Compassion", and "Masculinity".

The car hitting it must have been meant to disturb all these characteristics. By the way, as David Icke said the obelisk is there to draw in the male energy so this corresponds with the Masculinity trait

Is there some one that knows more about the Kabbalah thing?
Does somebody have other speculations?
Also, what is the pagan fest celebrated at the 1st of may?
And, who else believes rituals must be taking place at this very moment?!
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Old 30-04-2009, 08:31 PM   #48
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WARNING - VERY DEEP RABBIT HOLE AHEAD:

hour 1 Jeff Rense with Tim Rifat 28.4.09

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/...042809_hr1.mp3

hour 2 Jeff and Tim Rifat -

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/...042809_hr2.mp3

accompanying webpage - be warned once more! - If you're not familiar with the REAL satanic agenda - listen to p2 first then I dare you not to want to listen to p1!!

http://www.mindovermatter.ru/RVScien...adio_show.html
Quite chilling scenarios, well worth the listen, thx
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Old 30-04-2009, 08:36 PM   #49
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Here's a link to google maps for the area to see the shapes more clearly

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&sourc...87461&t=k&z=14
ZeteticOvoid - I want you to know that the info you posted on Het Loo and Appledoorn is VERY interesting to me - even without the incident of the BLACK car hitting the OBELISK today which are both are aspects of Saturn/satan - aka Baal....

I'm trying to link possible leylines with Appledoorn but don't have a map/atlas showing The Netherlands in enough detail and I have no geographic knowledge of the country at all I'm sorry to say.

One thing I did notice on the large topsy-turvey potential Kabbalistic 'tree' is the 'Kingsline' which runs right through what appears to be the 'base chakra' - the king of that chakra - aka the obelisk - aka penis, is obviously Baal/satan...

Is Appledoorn anywhere near the leyline on this site?:

http://www.leylijnen.com/strongleylines.htm

Your posts are fascinating - thank you for taking the time and trouble to draw our attention to it - we need to consider all of this kind of architecture/town/city planning.... It's obviously NOT there by accident.

The name 'Bilderberg' is interesting if you break it down....'Bilder' obviously refers to 'mason' and 'berg' refers to a hill/mountain.....

'Or' refers to gold - 'ange' = angel.....'the' fallen angel maybe??

I think I'm right when I say that William of Orange was the 'tool' by which the Rothschilds and their 'controller'/cohorts undertook a 'soft' invasion of England and 'took over' the Bank of England in 1694....we're looking at another facet of those who would 'rule the world', continued through Beatrix and the British "royals" amongst others of the 'black nobility' today....

I'll continue to think on and about your info - thank you again for your valuble input.

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This is the registration of the car - FZ-VL-03.

Photo on http://www.telegraph.co.uk/
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Old 30-04-2009, 08:39 PM   #51
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There are some interesting shapes around this area including pyramid shapes and what I also see as an inverted Kabalah diagram







Ok , I know this is pure speculation but I just thought the sahpes looked familiar and then I remmebered the Kabalah diagram. The region looks loike an inverted Kabalah diagram to me.




Het Loo palace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Het_Loo


In my inverted Kabalah diagram, the "De Naade" obelisk that was hit by the car is representing the "Tiferet" spot on the diagram. I have no clue what these things mean (or even if my diagram is purely inccorect speculation).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiferet


If my idea is correct (I stress that I am not claiming this to be the truth) I wonder what the black car hitting that obelisk would mean. I also wonder if an inverted Kabalah has significance.

I wonder if that obelisk is on some point on ley lines or whatever.

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The whole design of these shapes appears to be about 1 degree off from north/south alignment ... I wonder what this means?

lol why do you think its inverted ,

if you look from other side it lookz normal.

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Old 30-04-2009, 08:39 PM   #52
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In this video it doesn't appear the car was going for the bus but directly for the obelisk
The car was severly damaged by the bystanders it had ploughed through, hence the body sized dent in the roof. Don't under estimate the amount of damage a 13 stone body can do to a modern car. The time the car made it through the crowd the driver was no longer in control of the vehicle. It would have hit something eventually,the obelisk just happened to be thing in the way at the time, had it been a few degrees to the left you would now be wondering about the ethereal significance of the water fountain.
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Old 30-04-2009, 08:58 PM   #53
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"lol why do you think its inverted ,

if you look from other side it lookz normal."
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What I meant by an inverted Kabalah diagram was that it matched the orientation of the map (with north as top) only if it's rotated 180 degrees.

If you wish to rotate the map 180 degrees then the Kabalah wouldn't need to be rotated 180 degrees.

The question to ask is if the orientation of the city roads and buildings in relation to north is important to remain unrotated and whether an inverted Kabalah has some importance (as in reversing any symbolic meaning of the point. Similarly in Washington DC we have the inverted pentagram shape in the roads near the White House and other important landmarks.

If the Kabalah diagram can be seen as lining up with energy spots in the body (like chakras), then an inverted one could symbolise an upside down person

This could be similar to the 'Hanged Man' tarot card which also contains secret symboolism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hanged_Man_(tarot_card)



I'm wondering if there is something to all of this whether the car hitting that obelisk could be symbolic of reversing the meaning ..... or possibly having some real affect on some energy (although I'm still not really following that idea fully ...but I am open to learning more about the idea).


I wonder if from the video it can be determined if the bus with the Queen was directly in the vetical line from the Obelisk . Maybe it was all timed so the bus would be in a certain position?


It's all speculation I guess. I'd like to learn more about some of those buildings thoughand the history of how the palace and streest were designed.
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"The time the car made it through the crowd the driver was no longer in control of the vehicle. It would have hit something eventually,the obelisk just happened to be thing in the way at the time, had it been a few degrees to the left you would now be wondering about the ethereal significance of the water fountain."
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Yes that could be true which is why I said it was all speculation.

But the obelisk does have significance to powers-that-be ( one in Washington DC, one at the Vatican and the Cleopatra's needle in London for example).

It's also an assumption to claim that the driver was not purposefully heading for the obelisk.
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It's also an assumption to claim that the driver was not purposefully heading for the obelisk.
So lets get this straight, you think there's the possibilty that after driving through a crowd of people, and rather than aiming at a bus with the entire royal family on it, his/her intention was to slowly roll into a lump of stone?

Would have been a damn site easier if they'd done it a few hours later. With no one in the way they could hit the obelisk with some decent speed.
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Old 30-04-2009, 11:18 PM   #56
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How about that monument - I wonder what is written on the obelisk plaque ? Will try and find out.
I live nearby. I could make some pictures if you want.
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"So lets get this straight, you think there's the possibilty that after driving through a crowd of people, and rather than aiming at a bus with the entire royal family on it, his/her intention was to slowly roll into a lump of stone?

Would have been a damn site easier if they'd done it a few hours later. With no one in the way they could hit the obelisk with some decent speed."
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Yes I think it's possible he was aiming for the obelisk. Of course I am not saying I know this or 100% believe it. It is merely a suspicion.


Why would he drive into the obelisk when nobody was there? The fact that he drove into the crowd and near the royals of Netherlands makes this into a world-wide news story. I doubt we would have heard about a single car accident hitting some obelisk in some town in Netherlands if he had done it without anyone around.

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I have already seen and figured out the following

> ... how the people who orchestrated 9/11 had Flight 11 hit WTC exactly at the rising time of Mercury from New York on that day.

> ... I have measured how the wall height of the Pentagon wall at 77feet 3.5inches matches the numerals of the longitude of a spot within the impact zone of "Flight 77" (or whatever it really was) on the wall of the Pentagon of 77degrees 3.5 arc minutes west longitude . There are numerous dimensions listed on the Pentagon website.

> ... I have measured how the Flight 77 impact occured at the same moment as the rising time of the bright star Spica in the constellation Virgo and I have read some of the sigificance of that star within Freemasonic descriptions. This particular star may lead back in importance to the earliest time of the start of agriculture by humans as at that time, the precession of the equinox's 27000 year circle had Spica as positioned as a calendar signpost people used for their growing cycles. This star is visualized as the wheat in the hand of Virgo ... it was the star of the initial Earth Mother religion of very early agriculture.

> ... I have seen all the 77 numbers involved with the Pentagon on 9/11 (they plan these things because they believe in numerolgy of patterns)

There are timings, patterns, numbers that people in real power are orchestrating their events around. They love numerology, astronomical alignments, timed patterns and it not only shows in the building designs, angles and dimensions of buildings but also at the times of groundbreaking cermonies and other events (so some of these events were done when certain stars where at 33 degrees to the horizon as an example).


So yes, I think it might be possible that this area in the Netherlands has a design of ancient hidden knowledge just as the street layout in Washington DC has an inverted pentagram and other features.
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I live nearby. I could make some pictures if you want.
That would be good, oneup. Would be interesting to see all the details on the obelisk.

BTW, the letters and numbers of the car registration add up to 13, if you use the alphabet as numbers. May be meaningless, but it is one of their favourite numbers.
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"So lets get this straight, you think there's the possibilty that after driving through a crowd of people, and rather than aiming at a bus with the entire royal family on it, his/her intention was to slowly roll into a lump of stone?

Would have been a damn site easier if they'd done it a few hours later. With no one in the way they could hit the obelisk with some decent speed."
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Yes I think it's possible he was aiming for the obelisk. Of course I am not saying I know this or 100% believe it. It is merely a suspicion.


Why would he drive into the obelisk when nobody was there? The fact that he drove into the crowd and near the royals of Netherlands makes this into a world-wide news story. I doubt we would have heard about a single car accident hitting some obelisk in some town in Netherlands if he had done it without anyone around.

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I have already seen and figured out the following

> ... how the people who orchestrated 9/11 had Flight 11 hit WTC exactly at the rising time of Mercury from New York on that day.

> ... I have measured how the wall height of the Pentagon wall at 77feet 3.5inches matches the numerals of the longitude of a spot within the impact zone of "Flight 77" (or whatever it really was) on the wall of the Pentagon of 77degrees 3.5 arc minutes west longitude . There are numerous dimensions listed on the Pentagon website.

> ... I have measured how the Flight 77 impact occured at the same moment as the rising time of the bright star Spica in the constellation Virgo and I have read some of the sigificance of that star within Freemasonic descriptions. This particular star may lead back in importance to the earliest time of the start of agriculture by humans as at that time, the precession of the equinox's 27000 year circle had Spica as positioned as a calendar signpost people used for their growing cycles. This star is visualized as the wheat in the hand of Virgo ... it was the star of the initial Earth Mother religion of very early agriculture.

> ... I have seen all the 77 numbers involved with the Pentagon on 9/11 (they plan these things because they believe in numerolgy of patterns)

There are timings, patterns, numbers that people in real power are orchestrating their events around. They love numerology, astronomical alignments, timed patterns and it not only shows in the building designs, angles and dimensions of buildings but also at the times of groundbreaking cermonies and other events (so some of these events were done when certain stars where at 33 degrees to the horizon as an example).


So yes, I think it might be possible that this area in the Netherlands has a design of ancient hidden knowledge just as the street layout in Washington DC has an inverted pentagram and other features.
A very well thought-out and detailed post. You've done a lot of work, zetetic0void. Will be interested in following this further with you.
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Allot of things smell fishy...
Everyone reacts,reporters snap pictures,the camera follows,people react in shock....but the coppers don't even seem to notice the car,exept for the few that where in the way of it....you would at least see a swift reaction from trained people like cops.

Second:
After the crash you'll see the royal family rise and react with shock,almost everyone reacts except the Queen (in red as mentioned before),she just sits there stone cold as if nothing happenend.....

Third:
The security is so tight with a royal parade,no car without some kind of ID can pass the checkpoints,but somehow,a suzuki swift reached the main collum.....there where allot of streets closed because of the parade,every street with a police checkpoint.The suspect sure could have run trough those checkpoints,no biggie,but why didn't the cops react when he drove on the closed road,why didn't they communicate with their walky talkies????
Why didn't they tell the cops within the parade that a car entered the closed area.....????where they sleeping,celebrating queensday???Doesn't really makes sence to me.....

This could be mentioned before in the thread,to lazy to read the whole bunch
And i could be paranoia lol,but this is what i see,did anyone else notice it???
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