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View Poll Results: To vaccinate or not, that is the question
Had Vaccines - had ill effects 8 25.81%
Had Vaccines - had NO ill effects 19 61.29%
No Vaccines - have suffered from disease which can be vaccinated 3 9.68%
No Vaccines - have never suffered from disease which can be vaccinated 1 3.23%
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Old 20-04-2009, 03:38 PM   #1
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Default Vaccines: Had them or not? - results?

I think we're all coming around to the idea that Vaccines are bloody dangerous and are essentially there to keep BigPharma in business.

Vaccines are often being linked to various auto-immune diseases, as well as many others. So much so that many people are now refusing to have their children vaccinated at all.

The things I'm most curious about are firstly, whether people who've had vaccines have suffered from conditions or diseases later in life that can be linked to vaccine damage, and secondly, whether the people who have had NO vaccines have suffered in any way as a consequence.

I've seen several people on here mention that they wont be having their kids vaccinated, and I've also seen people mention that they know someone who's never had them and has always been healthy.

Anyhoo, I've decided to include a Poll so vote away folks
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Old 20-04-2009, 03:44 PM   #2
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Personally - I had meningitis not long after receiving the Mumps vaccine. Connected?
I also have mild dermatitus though I've no idea whether that can be vaccine linked or not.

My other half was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis (an auto-immune disease) approx a year after we went to Dominican Republic - a trip we needed a Yellow Fever jab for. Connected?
My other half, by the way, was only 31 when diagnosed. RA being a disease that typically hits women in their 50's or later.

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Old 20-04-2009, 03:56 PM   #3
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I'v had the usual school vacines (UK), when I was a lad - to ignorant at the time to question them.....

I cant remember any ill effects imediatly after the jab, but I dread to think what the possible future outcome may be for myself and mkillions of others!

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Old 20-04-2009, 04:13 PM   #4
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Was vaccinated as a toddler and usual vacines in school.

No Ill effects, BUT the chemicals surely would of done my body some damage to which Im unaware of. For instance how would you know if yer IQ or immune system had been obliterated from vaccines as a kid, Its just so hard to tell - unless you get some sort of disease.
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Old 20-04-2009, 04:41 PM   #5
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Childhood vaccines plus yellow fever and hep. injections whilst in the army.

I wansn't awakened to the ways then so can't waste any time on regrets now. What will be, will be...
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Old 20-04-2009, 06:45 PM   #6
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Childhood vaccines plus yellow fever and hep. injections whilst in the army.

I wansn't awakened to the ways then so can't waste any time on regrets now. What will be, will be...
Indeed, what will be will be.

I was hoping to hear from people who'd not had any vaccinations and hadn't had any of the typical illnesses/diseases.

early days yet i suppose.
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Old 20-04-2009, 07:16 PM   #7
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When my baby is born in 6 months time i have decided not to let him be vaccinated...my husband has been surprisingly supportive of this decision and admits he feels there is a case for not doing it.

does any1 have the links to where other parents have discussed this before

thank you.
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Old 20-04-2009, 07:34 PM   #8
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In my couple of years in the Army I was given dozens of vaccines, and never a single ill effect.
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Old 20-04-2009, 08:51 PM   #9
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When my baby is born in 6 months time i have decided not to let him be vaccinated...my husband has been surprisingly supportive of this decision and admits he feels there is a case for not doing it.

does any1 have the links to where other parents have discussed this before

thank you.
Not sure if this really helps, but I'm 28, never had any of the school/toddler vaccinations, not been to a G.P. for 25 odd years and I'm fine. Homeopathy all the way!
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Old 20-04-2009, 11:53 PM   #10
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I had all the usual childhood vaccines plus BCG. After being 'Awakened' didn't get boosters when went abroad recently. No illnesses as such, got adrenal fatigue/ suboptimal thyroid function which I thought could be linked to mercury (also had all my mercury fillings removed).

I am really interested in this subject and recently posted a link asking for experiences. Just had our 1st baby boy aged 14 weeks now and held off vaccinating, really wanted to hear examples of people both vaccinating/ and not to guage best/ worst case scenario's.

Still worried about Polio/ Tetanus, but lack of info not helping, my wife's not into all this so its in the balance if he gets vaccinated later.
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Old 21-04-2009, 02:53 AM   #11
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I've had no childhood vaccines since my mother was lazy! (Thank heavens)

I had measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox and probably a few other infections naturally and have life long immunity to them. None left me with any side effects or bad memories.

I have no health problems that I know of and am getting up in years. I take no medicine at all.

On the other hand a healthy person is one not yet diagnosed by a doctor. So why would I take a chance?

Ever read Overdosed America by Dr. John Abramson?

Edited - I could not participat in your poll since no category fit.
It would be: No vaccines, but had (not suffered though) most childhood diseases (gladly).

Who is looking after our kids?

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Old 21-04-2009, 03:12 AM   #12
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I voted had them with no ill effects. That being said, they were only the early childhood/school ones.

I havent had any since about 12 and if i had kids they wouldnt be having them.

For any parents out there this article may be of interest: http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/chan...m?ChannelID=47

My sisters had the anti cervical cancers one (two shots over a few months) and both had some negative reaction but a lot of girls got quite sick. The medical community's reaction in Aus was that they were typical girls overreacting.

I've always been against them and flat out refuse to have the flu jab at work. Incidently my co-worker has just had it after i advised her not to(i have a rep for being the office killjoy!). She is a severe asthmatic and now, two days later, has flu symtoms and a rash. She says she's not having it next year. Another workplace, a guy had the flu injection and was sick for the next two years i was there with chest infections, cough etc.

My boyfriend's work are also trying to 'force' them to have the flu shot. They even took him aside last week and tried the old "it will be good for the company, you'll make the boss happy" line.

After he refused they told him to go home and discuss it with me thinking id be able to convince him ... hilarious ...
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Old 21-04-2009, 07:12 AM   #13
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I didn't have any vaccines when young and got all the usual measles mumps and rubella, everyone got them in those days, Ihad them all over with first year in school, so did my siblings.I don't remember being particularly unwell, I think getting them young they can be quite mild,although I know some people can get them more severely. I do not recall anyone being left damaged by any either.

What I've noticed to day is that the media hypes these diseases into being more dangerous than they are, ie epidemics that will kill people, and younger people who were not around when these diseases were prevalent believe this hype.

Only 2 children have died of measles because they didn'thave the vaccine and they were both children who had immune system illnesses and this was the reason they had not been vaccinated on medical advice. Had the children been vaccinated the vaccines would have killed them anyway due to the seriousness of the weakened immune system

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Old 21-04-2009, 02:05 PM   #14
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I've had vaccines but would never have any other jabs in the furture, do not trust them.
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Old 21-04-2009, 07:19 PM   #15
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like auto immune diseases
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Old 23-04-2009, 02:47 PM   #16
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I didn't have any vaccines when young and got all the usual measles mumps and rubella, everyone got them in those days, Ihad them all over with first year in school, so did my siblings.I don't remember being particularly unwell, I think getting them young they can be quite mild,although I know some people can get them more severely. I do not recall anyone being left damaged by any either.

What I've noticed to day is that the media hypes these diseases into being more dangerous than they are, ie epidemics that will kill people, and younger people who were not around when these diseases were prevalent believe this hype.

Only 2 children have died of measles because they didn'thave the vaccine and they were both children who had immune system illnesses and this was the reason they had not been vaccinated on medical advice. Had the children been vaccinated the vaccines would have killed them anyway due to the seriousness of the weakened immune system
Yep , I agree. People have to think that if unvaccinated children were a "threat" to the greater kid population , they would have "proof" stuffed down our throats. They would have "proof" flooding every MSM site and programme (as these are the biggest pushers) but instead their proof never comes, only statements by PR people about upcoming threats, wihout any evidence.

Researchers are amazed how the Amish dont have any ADD/ADHD kids and believe they have a genetic immunity. I think BULLSHIT. Maybe its because they dont vaccinate?

I was given a polio innoculation back in the 60's and found out a few years ago these "vaccines" were infected with simian 40 (SV40) cancer virus. GREAT!!

I came across Dr. Vera Scheibner years ago and have read so much over the years, I will not take any "immunisation" shot again. BUT everyone has to make their own decision.

For those who have children , please research the whole aspect through the web and look for sites like Vaccine Awareness websites around the web and also other view points.

Basically I see it as ,as long as we can get clean water, uncontaminated food, clean sanitary conditions and especially for kids , a stable environment at home, (stress causes immune overreaction..according to some) then we should be ok.

I was vaccinated as a child before emigrating to Oz but missed the other jabs through school by sheer chance but it wasnt considered a problem. Whooping cough is considered a "childhood disease" NOT an "infant" disease, and some have blamed the vaccines in the very young for causing this. I had chicken pox as a child, and when my niece got it last year, I was fine, Her dad, who did not have it as a kid, got real sick with it.

I remember when I had it, mothers in the street bringing their kds over so they catch it from me!!

Mothers know best

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Old 23-04-2009, 03:18 PM   #17
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I voted had vaccines with ill effects, had the flu jab quite a few years ago and felt not too good afterwards. Cannot remember if I was jabbed when a child as parents passed, so cannot ask ! Do remember as a child having jabs at school, had smallpox and other travel related jabs. I did get chicken pox in my 20's, and was pregnant at the time, but had a miscarriage, don't know if that was related.

All I can say now is I would not recommend any parent giving their kids jabs these days.
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Old 24-04-2009, 05:58 PM   #18
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Had vaccines as a kid and recently, no ill effects to report.
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