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Old 02-01-2013, 11:09 PM   #1121
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Has anyone been able to show that the shuttle was capable of getting through the Van Allen belt?
The space shuttle never flew to the Moon. if you mean Apollo, it went around the outer edges.


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It would need to be lined with lead for the astronaughts to withstand the levels of radiation, which means it wouldn't get into space, obviously.
You are parroting other people without checking the veracity of that statement. It is complete baloney.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:09 PM   #1122
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This is a very very long thread and I haven't kept up with it.

Has anyone been able to show that the shuttle was capable of getting through the Van Allen belt?
It would need to be lined with lead for the astronaughts to withstand the levels of radiation, which means it wouldn't get into space, obviously.


Personally I do not believe they went to the moon.


This thread is only one of many things you've apparently not kept up with.

By "shuttle" do you mean "Apollo Command/Service Module" or do you refer to the Space Transportation System orbiter?
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:17 PM   #1123
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The space shuttle never flew to the Moon. if you mean Apollo, it went around the outer edges.

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You are parroting other people without checking the veracity of that statement. It is complete baloney.
Asking a question about something rather than keeping my mouth shut and assuming I'm right.
If I want to ask a question I'll ask it lol.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:21 PM   #1124
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This thread is only one of many things you've apparently not kept up with.

By "shuttle" do you mean "Apollo Command/Service Module" or do you refer to the Space Transportation System orbiter?
Look at you all 'rolling your eyes'
Did you see your brain you rolled your eyes so hard?

Tsk.....is it tedious??

Sorry flight commander Apollo, I didn't realise I'd get such a wankish response for asking a simple question.
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:15 AM   #1125
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Look at you all 'rolling your eyes'
Did you see your brain you rolled your eyes so hard?

Tsk.....is it tedious??

Sorry flight commander Apollo, I didn't realise I'd get such a wankish response for asking a simple question.
At this point you've had 2 of 3 parts of your "question" addressed --

a) the shuttle didn't go to the moon, and I've given you the proper google terms so you could perhaps brush up on the topic should you be so inclined
b) TG has posted (for about the millionth time) the graphic showing the actual flight path of the Apollo moon shots, which traverse only in the very edges of the Van Allen Belt

If you would like to discuss the specifics of the radiation forms found in the VAB and what kind of materials can be used to shield from them, I would suggest brushing up on those things as well to avoid wasting everyone's time.

I rolled my eyes because you asked a foolish question revealing very little familiarity with the subject matter at hand, but passing familiarity with oft-repeated false information. I've seen both too many times here among the so-called Truth Seekers in many subjects.

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I was given some advice once in a 9/11 thread here:
"If you don't know what you're talking about, shut the hell up until you've done your homework."

Broadly applicable advice, wouldn't you say?

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Old 03-01-2013, 02:32 AM   #1126
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At this point you've had 2 of 3 parts of your "question" addressed --

a) the shuttle didn't go to the moon, and I've given you the proper google terms so you could perhaps brush up on the topic should you be so inclined
b) TG has posted (for about the millionth time) the graphic showing the actual flight path of the Apollo moon shots, which traverse only in the very edges of the Van Allen Belt

If you would like to discuss the specifics of the radiation forms found in the VAB and what kind of materials can be used to shield from them, I would suggest brushing up on those things as well to avoid wasting everyone's time.

I rolled my eyes because you asked a foolish question revealing very little familiarity with the subject matter at hand, but passing familiarity with oft-repeated false information. I've seen both too many times here among the so-called Truth Seekers in many subjects.

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I was given some advice once in a 9/11 thread here:
"If you don't know what you're talking about, shut the hell up until you've done your homework."

Broadly applicable advice, wouldn't you say?

I asked a question and you are talking to me like I'm an idiot.

What's with the hostility?
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:49 AM   #1127
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I asked a question and you are talking to me like I'm an idiot.

What's with the hostility?
Frustration. You asked a silly question using terminology that indicates preconceived notions and zero research. It happens over and over at DIF and it really doesn't make truth seekers look good. I've make endless carefully written, detailed responses with charts and graphs and pretty pictures and links to multitudes of sources both from NASA and from third party researchers. It seems to have had zero impact, and then you come in talking about lead for gods' sake as if that's the only way to shield radiation.

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Old 03-01-2013, 02:52 AM   #1128
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So at this point you've gotten all the answer you're likely to get until you come back with just about one teaspoon full of clue.

Look at the graphics TG posted. Respond to that. Look up the difference between space craft referred to as "shuttle" and every other spacecraft, and clarify your question. Look up Van Allen Belt and find out what kind of radiation it has and how many different rockets were sent into it to study it before the Apollo missions, and since.
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:56 AM   #1129
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Frustration. You asked a silly question using terminology that indicates preconceived notions and zero research. It happens over and over at DIF and it really doesn't make truth seekers look good.
Responding with barbed comments because you've done more research than me. (More than a teaspoon full)

No problem.

Thanks for your time.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:48 AM   #1130
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Responding with barbed comments because you've done more research than me. (More than a teaspoon full)

No problem.

Thanks for your time.
Read my quote. Time marches on, but I all the more disbelieve the story propped up.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:55 PM   #1131
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Deanna Spingola Interview with Bart Sibrel of "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" 03 / 16 / 2012

http://k004.kiwi6.com/hotlink/403ze9...a_20120316.mp3


Updated links for:


A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon (Full Movie) -

http://krishnatube.com/video/490/A-F...ay-to-the-Moon



Astronauts Gone Wild - Bart Sibrel

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Old 03-01-2013, 01:14 PM   #1132
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Every time I see videos about Bart Sibrel and his deceitful money making machine I get this feeling of deja vu.



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Old 10-09-2013, 07:38 PM   #1133
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Brand new streaming link for the Spingola / Sibrel audio which was deleted by the original poster:


Deanna Spingola Interview with Bart Sibrel of "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" 03 / 16 / 2012

http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/x7lr7w...o_the_moon.mp3


A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon

http://krishnatube.com/video/490/A-F...ay-to-the-Moon


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4



Astronauts Gone Wild

http://vimeo.com/24508433


Wagging the Moondoggie - David McGowan

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html


Dave McGowan blows the Apollo lies to shreds with simple logic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdeplQFbDBs

http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/qkt6hb...mple_logic.mp3



Greenwood graduating class of 1974, McGowan 5th from right, bottom row








McGowan & future wife no. 2





“PAST, n. That part of Eternity with some small fraction of which we have a slight and regrettable acquaintance. A moving line called the Present parts it from an imaginary period known as the Future. These two grand divisions of Eternity, of which the one is continually effacing the other, are entirely unlike. The one is dark with sorrow and disappointment, the other bright with prosperity and joy. The Past is the region of sobs, the Future is the realm of song. In the one crouches Memory, clad in sackcloth and ashes, mumbling penitential prayer; in the sunshine of the other Hope flies with a free wing, beckoning to temples of success and bowers of ease. Yet the Past is the Future of yesterday, the Future is the Past of to-morrow. They are one --the knowledge and the dream.” ~ Ambrose Bierce

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Old 26-08-2014, 07:37 AM   #1134
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Abirato Radio - ep123-Cluesquiz #2-NASA with Simon Shack, Hoi Polloi, James Stigmeyer, Jan Erik and KHammad





These two comments from the above audio (starting at around the 2 hour 13 minute mark) I found most insightful:

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Abirato: I think they're at the forefront of American exceptionalism. If we can convince Americans that we're all powerful, boy, what else could we do with this spaceship America? We could rule the world! We have ultimate power. We rule space, don't dare go there. It's just promoting the American myth. Plus NASA started harvesting a new and emerging technology called the Television so they could use that as a weapon against the people. And who knows how much of the story they thought would catch on? Who knows for sure if they thought everyone was going to buy it? I think, for a while, there must have been a period when they thought 'Are people going to believe this'? And then they saw how . . . it worked! And I think that just gave them strength to carry on the hoax. I think they always create a lot of these hoaxes with the intention of saying 'Oh well, if it doesn't work or people catch one, we could easily exit the hoax by saying it was a drill, I don't know why you guys thought it was real. We might have added this reality just to help people in the drill understand it, and to test them. But perhaps when they see everyone still buys into all these, they just go with it, they just roll with it! And they keep going at it. Maybe on all the PsyOps of the day today they're always ready to say 'OK, yeah, it was just a reality-based drill and why are you guys making this big deal about it'? But no, everyone buys into it.

Hoi Polloi: I believe one of the reasons they do it is to control the 'big questions': 'why are we here? Who are we? What is the meaning of life?' And they basically encapsulate all that into their science-religion, their science-ism or scientism. It's the modern new-world religion basically. Even people who are purportedly Christian or Muslim or Buddhist or whatever, they still bow down to the high-priest of science. So it's a way of controlling people en-masse using religion. It's using the old tricks of religion but in this guise of being 'investigations.'

http://cluesforum.info/viewforum.php...c523f1ea316c05


"Deception, flattering, lying, deluding, talking behind the back, putting up a false front, living in borrowed splendor, wearing a mask, hiding behind convention, playing a role for others and for oneself — in short, a continuous fluttering around the solitary flame of vanity — is so much the rule and the law among men that there is almost nothing which is less comprehensible than how an honest and pure drive for truth could have arisen among them." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche, "On Truth and Lies in an Extra-Moral Sense" (1873)

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Old 30-08-2014, 08:19 AM   #1135
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http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2391584#p2391584


"The American people don't believe anything until they see it on television" ~ Richard Nixon

“It is not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.” - Henry Kissinger

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Old 30-08-2014, 05:45 PM   #1136
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Could be. Anything is possible. Neat thought.
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