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Old 10-04-2009, 02:05 AM   #41
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It's an assumption that the energy would go to the highest common good, vague as that is.
It is not an assumption. If you know the principles of energy, then you know that all energy works via it's intended use. Free will is more than just two words representing a vague concept of autonomy. It is the secret to magic, which is just energy science. Intention is one of the most important things in the universe.

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Example: Let's say that there's a country called Z. In this country it's very unstable with militias killing and starving the population and they are in need of aid. The plight of this country is all over the media.

A person who lives in say UK is walking down the street where there are charity workers raising money for country Z. The person is wanting to help the people of this country so they give a donation with the intent and assumption that the money will purchase aid and go to the common good.

The money raised goes to the country but is funneled by unscrupulous people and the cash actually ends up the the hands of militias who spend it on arms that end up killing more people and making matters worse.

The person giving the money (energy) just assumes that it would go to the highest good of the people. If that could (and has) happened on this level - why wouldn't it be the same on the next level up? Why didn't the universe make sure that the money (energy) went to the the starving people?
That energy was wasted because the intent of the person was to give their money to a charity and let someone else handle the dirty work, because they would rather buy off their guilt than actually do anything. Intention still played a major role in that energy payoff. Laziness + guilt = money + energy

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If you look in the past people have been praying for peace for who knows how long. Just before WW2 people from every faith were praying and hoping that it wouldn't happen because the other 'great war' was still fresh in their memories. They instructed their prayers for a specific purpose - peace - yet even with that outpouring of energy 65 million people perished.
They are praying and then listening for answers they want to hear. They don't listen to what "God" actually tells them or we wouldn't be in this mess. They directed their prayers toward false idols and this energy was harnessed by the occult masterminds that currently rule the planet to create a massive manifested nightmare. In other words, they idiotically trusted that their leaders weren't fucking them, because they believed their leaders were authentically representing "God."




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Old 10-04-2009, 03:49 AM   #42
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i've thought of this before but didnt say anything.

i'm wondering if we could get something started where interested people
will gather every week/month to do the same thing... ideally everyday.
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:23 AM   #43
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I have thought long and hard about this.

I do believe that our energy is very powerfull and can be used against us........if we put it into fear based "pleading".
No matter how peacefull it is , if its coming from a place of fear.... it has a "save us!" vibration.
Which I believe saps us of our power, and keeps us traped.


I think its very benificial to be conciously gratefull for anything in life that brings you joy.
No matter how small.
I am going to take part in this visualisation, I will sit quietly and focus on love for Mother Earth and Natures Beauty.

It always grounds me and clears away emotional cobwebs when I do this.

If it helps with something bigger, thats an added bonus.

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Old 10-04-2009, 07:48 AM   #44
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I do believe that our energy is very powerfull and can be used against us........if we put it into fear based "pleading".
No matter how peacefull it is , if its coming from a place of fear.... it has a "save us!" vibration.
Which I believe saps us of our power, and keeps us traped.


I think its very benificial to be conciously gratefull for anything in life that brings you joy.
No matter how small.
I am going to take part in this visualisation, I will sit quietly and focus on love for Mother Earth and Natures Beauty.

It always grounds me and clears away emotional cobwebs when I do this.

If it helps with something bigger, thats an added bonus.
It's your own mind-set that's important - you need to dwell on the knowledge that there is an infinite life-force energy that you can "conduct" for pure good - so what you're doing is not pleading for deliverence at all. You're not pleading for anything - you're recognising that you're on the driving seat, and it's nothing but positive. You're filled with, and part of that energy, so you're not appealing to a third party for mercy.

I realise that that's my interpretation, but it's what resonates to me as being the truth.

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Old 10-04-2009, 09:11 AM   #45
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It's your own mind-set that's important - you need to dwell on the knowledge that there is an infinite life-force energy that you can "conduct" for pure good - so what you're doing is not pleading for deliverence at all. You're not pleading for anything - you're recognising that you're on the driving seat, and it's nothing but positive. You're filled with, and part of that energy, so you're not appealing to a third party for mercy.

I realise that that's my interpretation, but it's what resonates to me as being the truth.

I think thats a great interpretation Gilly, I agree with you.

Its the followers of the Federation of Light Stuff that worries me....But thats a whole nother thread.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:38 AM   #46
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You can direct energy to go where, it will, "create the highest common good". That way, you don't need to go into specifics that could be detrimental to anyone's free-will - and I don't believe the universal life-force energy has confusion in defining what's 'right/ good' & 'wrong/bad', like humans do.
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Assumptions. How do you know?
Me and my bike coming to Weymouth on Sunday [heading to Jurassic Coast].
I will find you there and I will kick your skinny ass to see some electron or [neutron] flux out of your miserable left over!
Direct energy - to create some highest common good!! ;]]

Good thread, folks.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:32 AM   #47
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It is not an assumption. If you know the principles of energy, then you know that all energy works via it's intended use. Free will is more than just two words representing a vague concept of autonomy. It is the secret to magic, which is just energy science. Intention is one of the most important things in the universe.
If you want to indulge in restrictive, manipulative 'magic' then that's your choice.

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That energy was wasted because the intent of the person was to give their money to a charity and let someone else handle the dirty work, because they would rather buy off their guilt than actually do anything. Intention still played a major role in that energy payoff. Laziness + guilt = money + energy
And people sitting around trying to change the universe with wishful thinking that the universe will do their bidding isn't lazy? It's the path of entropy.

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They are praying and then listening for answers they want to hear. They don't listen to what "God" actually tells them or we wouldn't be in this mess. They directed their prayers toward false idols and this energy was harnessed by the occult masterminds that currently rule the planet to create a massive manifested nightmare. In other words, they idiotically trusted that their leaders weren't fucking them, because they believed their leaders were authentically representing "God."
Oh, so it would of worked if it hadn't been for those meddling kids. Nothing to do with lack of knowledge or anything. Or psychopathy.

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What would you know about it?
Studies and data. If you think you can give a psychopath a conscience with the power of 'magic', then why not create a study of your own and publish the results so people could analyze the data.

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Me and my bike coming to Weymouth on Sunday [heading to Jurassic Coast].
I will find you there and I will kick your skinny ass to see some electron or [neutron] flux out of your miserable left over!
Direct energy - to create some highest common good!! ;]]
They're letting you out on day release?
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:55 AM   #48
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Hello there,
Yes I remember endlessvista posting something about this approximately a week
ago. Unfortunately the original posting became swamped under lots of other other messages.

If it is the same event then Maxwell Igan at the Crowhouse is organising it. The details are here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCuwUL0yFg0

Apparently it is already up to 10,000 people and Max Igan is going to have some university measure the effects of the Intention on the earth's magentic levels before, during and after the event. I think he is trying to get Gregg Braden in on it too.

Can't wait, I am going to go to the top of a mountain were I live.

10AM GMT tomorrow folks. Worth a try I think.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:57 AM   #49
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And this all will happen while we sit around and do nothing.

Good, you do not bother. I think there is a special on Living TV were Jade will be choosing her coffin. Go watch that instead and mutter about "the man".

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Well gilly I am guilty of not participating in the Fire The Grid and a couple of other 'events' intended to send love into the matrix.

My intuition said "no"

Maybe you are wrong. Have you ever though about that?
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:09 PM   #51
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Look at how angry and insulting people are to those who offer an alternative point of view.

These are the people creating 'peace and love'.
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Well gilly I am guilty of not participating in the Fire The Grid and a couple of other 'events' intended to send love into the matrix.

My intuition said "no"

Maybe you are wrong. Have you ever though about that?
My intuition [inner voice] telling me frequently:
1. You late. do it tomorrow
2. You tired now. better take some sleep
3. Smoke a cig, right now!
4. Do this/that first!
5. Someone will do it for you. no worries
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intuition is simple, just like me

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I think thats a great interpretation Gilly, I agree with you.

Its the followers of the Federation of Light Stuff that worries me....But thats a whole nother thread.
I agree. People waiing for aliens, Venus Project, their guru's next book, Alex Jones next bombastic bullshit outburst...they have transferered all responsibility onto a third party so they do not have to do anything themselves except sit at home and mutter to themselves while hoping someone comes along and changes the channel for them.

Something like what Max Igan is planning gives each and everyone of us a personal stake to try something. What's the problem?

I am simply amazed that same people who belive that shapeshifting reptilians attacked the WTC are so quick to put down what Max Igan is trying to undertake even though there is excellent scientific data to back up the effects of such actions.

Look, the people here who are taking part in the Max Igan experiement will do it, the ones who think it is a waste of time and want to "fight the system" (by watching youtube videos of course) you go on and do that. OK?

Just because you lot have drawn a circle around your personal potential and locked yourselves in there, please do not complain if you are feeling lonely and certainly do not try to pull the rest of us who want to do this into your little grumpy domain.

Thanks. But I am doing this and looking forward to it.
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My intuition [inner voice] telling me frequently:
1. You late. do it tomorrow
2. You tired now. better take some sleep
3. Smoke a cig, right now!
4. Do this/that first!
5. Someone will do it for you. no worries

Well at least you are honest.
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Look at how angry and insulting people are to those who offer an alternative point of view.

These are the people creating 'peace and love'.
You are just a troll.
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Look at how angry and insulting people are to those who offer an alternative point of view.

These are the people creating 'peace and love'. :rolleyes
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They're letting you out on day release?
You know I was kidding, mate... ;]
[I wont kick your ass, although you diserve it like hell; I'll be there on Sunday anyway]

But I know, that you know...and your rampage mission here is because of
your inner voice, your "intuition" which is not yours, as a matter of fact.

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I had forgotten all about this, thanks for keeping the thread up guys!
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:25 PM   #58
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You are just a troll.


I rest my case.
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:32 PM   #59
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Why does it have to be on that day? Why not let the way you live symbolise whatever you want to symbolise - every day?

If this works, will it not only be temporary? As it is only for that day? What about changing the world around you by changing yourself?
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[I wont kick your ass, although you diserve it like hell; I'll be there on Sunday anyway]
Why do I deserve it?

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But I know, that you know...and your rampage mission here is because of
I'm not on any "rampage mission".

It seems alternative views are not welcome so I'll get my coat and leave.

Good luck to all.
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