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Old 07-04-2009, 09:18 PM   #21
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You can all sit and come up with all the excuses you would like to avoid taking 60 seconds out of your day to hope for peace and tranquility in the world. You are only revealing the state of your own mind in your angry refusal to wish for peace.

It is not only bizarre, but rather humorous.
Yes, I am laughing my ass of already

Think it is 60 minutes however...
Donīt care, I am in!
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:34 AM   #22
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You can all sit and come up with all the excuses you would like to avoid taking 60 seconds out of your day to hope for peace and tranquility in the world.
I think most having been hoping for peace since day dot. Hoping and dreaming on a designated date doesn't seem like it will do much either - these events are not new - in fact the world is in an even worse state now.

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I'm not angry, although you do seem angry at my refusal to go along with this. By refusing these silly events doesn't mean I oppose peace.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:49 AM   #23
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I think most having been hoping for peace since day dot. Hoping and dreaming on a designated date doesn't seem like it will do much either - these events are not new - in fact the world is in an even worse state now.

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You've acknowledged yourself on another thread, that tptb harvest energy. So if you know energy direction is powerful (or why would they bother doing it?), it makes no sense for you to ridicule the prospect of directing energy for mankind's benefit.
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:49 AM   #24
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Mid 90's in the UK there was I think a political party (but not certain they where a political party) who meditated in groups and some groups would travel to different towns/cities to set up other groups the aim was to with thought power to create a more peaceful environment in Towns and Cities etc.

They claimed crimes rates had dropped and people became more friendly (I can't remember much but almost sure they delivered leaflets explaining what they do) But may have included some kind of "Bhakti yoga" They may have also been connected to those laughter therapy groups where they all sit/roll around laughing
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:53 AM   #25
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Mid 90's in the UK there was I think a political party (but not certain they where a political party) who meditated in groups and some groups would travel to different towns/cities to set up other groups the aim was to with thought power to create a more peaceful environment in Towns and Cities etc.

They claimed crimes rates had dropped and people became more friendly (I can't remember much but almost sure they delivered leaflets explaining what they do) But may have included some kind of "Bhakti yoga" They may have also been connected to those laughter therapy groups where they all sit/roll around laughing
It was the Natural Law Party and they used Yogic Flying techniques amongst others.

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Old 08-04-2009, 10:54 AM   #26
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It was the Natural Law Party and they used Yogic Flying techniques amongst others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Law_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogic_Flying
You have a mind like an encyclopedia, Logic Bomb - I've noticed this before.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:06 AM   #27
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You've acknowledged yourself on another thread, that tptb harvest energy. So if you know energy direction is powerful (or why would they bother doing it?), it makes no sense for you to ridicule the prospect of directing energy for mankind's benefit.
The problem I have is the fact it's a free will violation and smacks of control. Is that the way forward? To bend everything to our will? To dream we're 'magicians'?

Count me out.
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It was the Natural Law Party and they used Yogic Flying techniques amongst others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Law_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogic_Flying
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You have a mind like an encyclopedia, Logic Bomb - I've noticed this before.
It's a selective memory gilly. I somehow retain reams of useless info but ask me where I last left my lighter and skins and I'll be struggling
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:17 AM   #30
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It was the Natural Law Party and they used Yogic Flying techniques amongst others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Law_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogic_Flying
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In the 1992 general election, 310 candidates stood for the NLP in the UK, garnering 0.19% of the vote; every candidate lost his or her deposit, for failing to receive at least 5% of the vote.[2] A significant number of constituencies were contested by nationals of countries outside the UK, including
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, as British electoral law allows any member of a
country to stand for
. A week before the 1992 general election,
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for the NLP.[3] Although they declined to stand for election, Harrison put on a fund-raising concert for the NLP during the campaign


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The problem I have is the fact it's a free will violation and smacks of control. Is that the way forward? To bend everything to our will? To dream we're 'magicians'?

Count me out.
As stated in the other thread (Chopra & Obama), that's incorrect.

You can direct energy to go where, it will, "create the highest common good". That way, you don't need to go into specifics that could be detrimental to anyone's free-will - and I don't believe the universal life-force energy has confusion in defining what's 'right/ good' & 'wrong/bad', like humans do.

If you look at things like the teachings of Reiki, for eg, it's a harnessing & accellerating of the life-force energy, which is impossible to utilise for harmful purposes.

We can't riot, because it corrupts us.

We can't protest, because we'll be labelled rioters.

We can't do nothing - what about our kids' protection?

This is something that nobody can come up with a legitimate excuse for not trying.

(oh, and please stop referring to it as dreaming - that's a different thing altogether, as you already know, and the use of that word smacks of trying to deter others via ridicule - see DI's material on that subject).
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:49 AM   #32
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Well gilly I am guilty of not participating in the Fire The Grid and a couple of other 'events' intended to send love into the matrix.

My intuition said "no" because there are those on this planet who know and understand how to use energy (positive or negative) a lot better than we do. I was peeved that I couldn't take part, but I knew the energy was going to be harnessed (regardless of my own intention for it) and directed elsewhere to further the agenda.

These planned and widely publicised 'events' are sitting ducks for the ptb to harness, but I do believe the smaller events we planned behind the scenes had the most brilliant effect. soglad (who is not posting much these days) organised a few 'behind the scenes' events, and I always knew the energy went to where we intended it to go......i.e. to fire the grid with love.
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Well gilly I am guilty of not participating in the Fire The Grid and a couple of other 'events' intended to send love into the matrix.

My intuition said "no" because there are those on this planet who know and understand how to use energy (positive or negative) a lot better than we do. I was peeved that I couldn't take part, but I knew the energy was going to be harnessed (regardless of my own intention for it) and directed elsewhere to further the agenda.

These planned and widely publicised 'events' are sitting ducks for the ptb to harness, but I do believe the smaller events we planned behind the scenes had the most brilliant effect. soglad (who is not posting much these days) organised a few 'behind the scenes' events, and I always knew the energy went to where we intended it to go......i.e. to fire the grid with love.
I have to say, I'm more keen on people on this forum banding together, than joining anything instigated elsewhere for that reason. But synchronised amongst ourselves, I feel it's something that could be beneficial, and only a small % seem interested.

Re Fire the Grid, btw, did you notice that woman who was spokesperson for the event (who's son "died" & was revived) disappeared completely after the event? So yes, I do think that was suspicious.
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You can direct energy to go where, it will, "create the highest common good". That way, you don't need to go into specifics that could be detrimental to anyone's free-will - and I don't believe the universal life-force energy has confusion in defining what's 'right/ good' & 'wrong/bad', like humans do.
Assumptions. How do you know?

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If you look at things like the teachings of Reiki, for eg, it's a harnessing & accellerating of the life-force energy, which is impossible to utilise for harmful purposes.
It could be if someone reversed the symbols. The difference between these events and going to a reiki practitioner is a person asks, thus no free will violation.

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We can't riot, because it corrupts us.

We can't protest, because we'll be labelled rioters.

We can't do nothing - what about our kids' protection?

This is something that nobody can come up with a legitimate excuse for not trying.
Limelady just did. Also, it is a free will violation based on control - to make the world become as you see fit regardless of everybody else. Now, it would seem illogical - everyone want peace, right? The thing is there is a very real problem causing this destruction - psychopaths etc. If there was knowledge and understanding of the situation people would identify the problem and we would then have a different world. That would be progression.

You can't make someone grow a conscience, no matter how much energy you put into this thing.

I'm sure all the 4D critters are just waiting for your loosh.
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Re Fire the Grid, btw, did you notice that woman who was spokesperson for the event (who's son "died" & was revived) disappeared completely after the event? So yes, I do think that was suspicious.
She's back for FTG part 2 for July this year. I'm sure more gullible fools will take part.

But taking part in events with Blossom "aliens will show up" Goodchild isn't suspicious?
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Assumptions. How do you know?



It could be if someone reversed the symbols. The difference between these events and going to a reiki practitioner is a person asks, thus no free will violation.



Limelady just did. Also, it is a free will violation based on control - to make the world become as you see fit regardless of everybody else. Now, it would seem illogical - everyone want peace, right? The thing is there is a very real problem causing this destruction - psychopaths etc. If there was knowledge and understanding of the situation people would identify the problem and we would then have a different world. That would be progression.

You can't make someone grow a conscience, no matter how much energy you put into this thing.

I'm sure all the 4D critters are just waiting for your loosh.
Well as sad as I am to say this, you have hit the nail on the head as to why I couldn't/wouldn't participate. Until we can be sure our energy is not feeding 4D (or elsewhere) I will not participate in publicised staged events.

I do think 'something' has control of the grid and how the energy is used to manipulate this planet into subservience, and I'd dearly love to be able to regain control over it as I am certain our planet is being held in a very low vibration quite deliberately..

Who knows.....taking BACK the control of the grid could even be the X factor (the key?) David spoke of during his recent Project Camelot interview.
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Assumptions. How do you know?

It's taught in Reiki instruction.


It could be if someone reversed the symbols. The difference between these events and going to a reiki practitioner is a person asks, thus no free will violation.

Wrong. I've no idea what, if anything, happens on reversing the symbols. But if the symbols were reversed, it wouldn't be Reiki, would it! Reiki energy is incorruptible.

In Reiki, it's acceptable to do a healing without specific permission of the intended recipient - so long as you instruct the energy, that if that person's higher self genuinely does not want it, it be directed instead, to wherever it will "be of the highest common good for humanity". You don't use your own, possibly flawed, judgement as to what the highest good is. It knows.


Limelady just did. Also, it is a free will violation based on control - to make the world become as you see fit regardless of everybody else. Now, it would seem illogical - everyone want peace, right? The thing is there is a very real problem causing this destruction - psychopaths etc. If there was knowledge and understanding of the situation people would identify the problem and we would then have a different world. That would be progression.

For the 3rd time (including the other thread), it is not free will-violition based at all, if you are instructing it to go specifically where it will do the highest common good. You do not need to determine what that "good" is. It would only be so, if you were directing it to changing someone else's mind, or manipulating them into behaving other than as they'd like to.


You can't make someone grow a conscience, no matter how much energy you put into this thing.

That is not something I've ever suggested, as it would constitute free-will violition.


I'm sure all the 4D critters are just waiting for your loosh.
Perhaps you have a point here. But I think we're more powerful than we give ourselves credit for. At the minute, they've a vast arsenal. We've pretty much nothing but this, (which most folk are to sceptical or afraid to try), and the hope that there are some in positions of power who will resist on our behalf.
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It's taught in Reiki instruction.
That doesn't make it true.

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Wrong. I've no idea what, if anything, happens on reversing the symbols.
So you don't know it's wrong, not that I'm suggesting you try it.

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But if the symbols were reversed, it wouldn't be Reiki, would it! Reiki energy is incorruptible.
Maybe it could draw energy out instead of putting it in.....

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In Reiki, it's acceptable to do a healing without specific permission of the intended recipient - so long as you instruct the energy, that if that person's higher self genuinely does not want it, it be directed instead, to wherever it will "be of the highest common good for humanity". You don't use your own, possibly flawed, judgement as to what the highest good is. It knows. For the 3rd time (including the other thread), it is not free will-violition based at all, if you are instructing it to go specifically where it will do the highest common good. You do not need to determine what that "good" is. It would only be so, if you were directing it to changing someone else's mind, or manipulating them into behaving other than as they'd like to.
It's an assumption that the energy would go to the highest common good, vague as that is.

Example: Let's say that there's a country called Z. In this country it's very unstable with militias killing and starving the population and they are in need of aid. The plight of this country is all over the media.

A person who lives in say UK is walking down the street where there are charity workers raising money for country Z. The person is wanting to help the people of this country so they give a donation with the intent and assumption that the money will purchase aid and go to the common good.

The money raised goes to the country but is funneled by unscrupulous people and the cash actually ends up the the hands of militias who spend it on arms that end up killing more people and making matters worse.

The person giving the money (energy) just assumes that it would go to the highest good of the people. If that could (and has) happened on this level - why wouldn't it be the same on the next level up? Why didn't the universe make sure that the money (energy) went to the the starving people?

If you look in the past people have been praying for peace for who knows how long. Just before WW2 people from every faith were praying and hoping that it wouldn't happen because the other 'great war' was still fresh in their memories. They instructed their prayers for a specific purpose - peace - yet even with that outpouring of energy 65 million people perished.


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That is not something I've ever suggested, as it would constitute free-will violition.
It's also impossible.
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lol GFL too funny.

I like the 11/11 idea more.

Sounds like a good time to crash a party to me get our focus on personal accountability and off some saviour race.

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