Evidence for 2012. - Page 2

majorlee · 26-03-2009, 03:56 PM

yeah i agree

only the sleeping sheep will not see the massive changes coming

i keep positive and look forward to our amazing future but keepin firmly seated in the present

roll on 2012 - whatever it has in store, its gunna be dead interesting

peace

hank_scorpio · 26-03-2009, 09:05 PM

Were in full control of our own futures and always have been. Im not waiting for ANYTHING im concentrating on becoming self-sufficient and at the point where I won't need money.

Mayan calender says 3500 years 'niburu' comes, why is there no evidence of this claim. Maybe the translator made a mistake. Anybody even thought of that?

Fuck I can't wait for 2012 now just so people will shut the fuck up. But then again when 2012 comes, ummm it wasn't 2012 it was 2024....Thats what WILL and always happened. Planet X has been coming for decades now the dates keep changing...

2012 the big solar storm IS what will cause massive damage to the energy infrastructure if this species hasn't destroyed itself by then.

barbitone · 26-03-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hank_scorpio

Mayan calender says 3500 years 'niburu' comes,

Is that right? 'You sure about that?

lezenko · 28-03-2009, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hank_scorpio

Mayan calender says 3500 years 'niburu' comes, why is there no evidence of this claim. Maybe the translator made a mistake.

How ironic hahah

thirdwave · 28-03-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hank_scorpio

Were in full control of our own futures and always have been. Im not waiting for ANYTHING im concentrating on becoming self-sufficient and at the point where I won't need money.

I dont think anyone is... however they are interesting facts.

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Mayan calender says 3500 years 'niburu' comes, why is there no evidence of this claim. Maybe the translator made a mistake. Anybody even thought of that?

The Mayans said nothing about Niburu. you are talking about the Semerians who were about before the Mayans...

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Fuck I can't wait for 2012 now just so people will shut the fuck up.

I doubt very much you will notice anything, if you have not noticed anything different already.

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But then again when 2012 comes, ummm it wasn't 2012 it was 2024....Thats what WILL and always happened. Planet X has been coming for decades now the dates keep changing...

What is it you assume people are expecting in that date?

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2012 the big solar storm IS what will cause massive damage to the energy infrastructure if this species hasn't destroyed itself by then.

Well maybe this is what will happen?. What will physically happen (if anything) on this date is very much anyone's guess...

soxism · 29-03-2009, 05:14 PM

If people do their Research Also... Remember how much the Myans Loved their Sun!

The Sun every x amount of years changes it magnetic poles. So South becomes North, and North Becomes South.. It also indicated Massive Massive Activity within the Sun...

2012 just happens to be the year that Our Sun changes its Magnetic poles.

Already The Global warming Bullshit Feed to us, 'they' always seem to forget to mention the MAJOR influencing factor of heat on earth.. The SUN!

With More Electro magnetic activity within the Sun means an increase in many form, but for this point, Heat...

So.. Lets work with;

if we are All Energy.. why wouldnt the Sun's Electro activity effect us on a conscience level?
if we are all an infinite conscientiousness, and the Sun is coming to full power around 2012...

Why wouldn't that indicate that we will proceed to be more "mentally" stimulated and the possibility of a mass awakening... maybe even for some being able to connect to the 4th dimention

Its my view that much of the 2012 stuff that has to do with Fear is all the illuminati's disinformation... If they keep us fearful we keep empowering them.. we have nothing to worry about 2012.. The more i read, the more im starting to think even Planet X is all Disinformation Fear.. if it was real, it most certinally wouldnt be in the 3rd Dimention or how ever we see it.

Also to Ask yourself, why is it that 2012 is such an important date to the illuminati.. why do they not want us to learn the truth?

broadperspective · 29-03-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by soxism

So.. Lets work with;

if we are All Energy.. why wouldnt the Sun's Electro activity effect us on a conscience level?
if we are all an infinite conscientiousness, and the Sun is coming to full power around 2012...

Why wouldn't that indicate that we will proceed to be more "mentally" stimulated and the possibility of a mass awakening... maybe even for some being able to connect to the 4th dimention.

Also to Ask yourself, why is it that 2012 is such an important date to the illuminati.. why do they not want us to learn the truth?

I agree and I would add that besides the sun, there might also be other ''energy'' influences coming from unknown phenomenas....within and outside our galaxy.

disorder2k8 · 29-03-2009, 08:54 PM

note sure if anyone has posted this
Dr. Michio Kaku - 2012 Solar Storms Are Coming
http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/...ms_Are_Coming/

soxism · 30-03-2009, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by disorder2k8

note sure if anyone has posted this
Dr. Michio Kaku - 2012 Solar Storms Are Coming
http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/...ms_Are_Coming/

I haven't Read THIS particular article, but if it has anything Massively Negative in it, like the end of the world blah, i'll palm it off as propaganda

EDIT: So I Had a quick watch.. "A short interview from fox news" ...Fox News.. Like Hell anything they give you is "News"... and untill i've done research i wouldnt be too quickly to believe Dr Michio Kaku either..

The Video is Full of FEAR.. Oh No Watch out! It will Wipe out TV, GPS oh No! Etc....

Yes the Sun will be Massively More Active. But it WILL NOT Destory Earth.. as they want you to keep believing...

Seriously Stop buying into such our right propoganda

branjo · 30-03-2009, 10:17 AM

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If the event aspect of 2012 were to happen right now there would be evidence to support that it may do us harm, "but as we are now".

Many scientists have began to see a development in the Biology of human beings, I will take Bruce Lipton for example, as he is for me the introduction to the Jaw dropping world of New Biology and is a man that should be listened to.

He has said in a very entertaining and enlightening way that the environment is the deciding factor of who you are and what your are, interesting.

The cell membrane is what receives the changes in the environment not the DNA, the DNA is told what to do by the environment that is dictating it. When the environment changes, and it is changing in amazing ways and so will our planet, ie heating up, slowing its rotation, loosing magnetism, and gaining in frequency.

So by that basic understanding when our own environment changes, we will be also changing and there is no doubt in any of our minds that things are indeed changing around us, in every perceivable way.
So if our skin (which is our body's membrane) begins to receive more or a different kind of radiation the internal organs will adapt to it, they will do this by each individual cell membrane receiving a signal and the DNA within it will change to what ever the new environment demands. Who knows what we may be immune to or be able to withstand.

If you could tell a caterpillar "go to sleep and when you wake up you will be able to fly" I bet it would say "I know" or "Bollocks, you're off your rocker pal".

So judging the effects or possible effects of 2012 here and now, isn't going to give a good point of reference because we are in the midst of changing every single thing about ourselves. We think we are all learning about this kind of stuff because we are getting older and more mature, partly true but we also have to understand that our environment is dictating we have to change or else we will slip into a slow coma and that will be the end of this particular civilization cycle, not out of catastrophe, but out of a refusal to adapt. We must raise our own frequency and stop gravitating to anyone else like an emotional crutch. Our best chance is to listen to our very own soul that has probably gone through this event many times before, it just has fun seeing the ego freak out every time ..lol

Refusal to adapt is the number one cause of the extinction of any species, like if your a tree dwelling monkey and a big fire wipes out your forest, you are going to have to eat different foods and learn how to run or you'll either starve or get eaten by something faster or hungrier.

Lately drastic changes are happening within us all and I find myself constantly reminded that I am doing and saying things that I vowed never to say or do. I am actually trying to develop a spiritual connection with the world around me when before, I couldn't have cared any less, and thought it safer to just giggle with the rest at the person who would say such a thing.

The most coolest aspect that I think we have enough information for now is that if your bedroom gets the sun in the morning then you are going to have to move to the other side of the house if you want it to stay that way.

Its more common sense really that if you pass the equator on earth the natural rotation of the vortex will slow, stop and spin in the other direction.
Why would the Galactic equator be any different?, the reason the magnetic poles are jumping around the planet is because the force that held them in place is getting weaker so the deviation happens, maybe because of the "moon" too which sparks of an entirely different debate as to its natural purpose or its given purpose. <---Insert Richard Hoagland video here--->

There is a 4 hour lecture by Greg Braden who is feckin awesome btw, and he can make this a lot clearer than I possibly could, but he brings up ancient Hopi (I think its Hopi) and Peruvian ancient knowledge, the Hopi talk about the long day, and the tribes of Peru talk of the long night (opposite sides of the Earth). The Hopi say the sun rose as normal as it did everyday "in the west! and set again in the east" and then "rose again in the east and set in the west" this caused intense focus of heat for a part of the planet that was used to a cycle of heat and cold in the proper timescale, the Peruvians had the opposite effect, no sun, until it returned from the same side it set.

Who knows this could be the reason for the desolate areas of the world, an intense solar (or lack of) period could disrupt the plant and animal kingdom enough to confuse it and produce enough of a rift in the Eco system, maybe enough to possibly ruin it?

If we have even the slightest bit of knowledge that this has happened before then its happened for a hell of a long time before that. The earth could land on completely different areas every time and bake the crap out of them, I don't think we will be like running through the streets on fire but I think everyone should invest in a good hat and shades or gloves and a scarf, lol.

If the Earth slows to a stop and rotates the other way, I doubt it would send you flying like a bus driver slamming on the brakes and everyone ending up with noses pushed against the windscreen, it will be as gradual as it can be. I have heard about this time period being as long as 3 days, or one 72 hour day...lol. Who knows for sure really?

So 2012 for me will either be a bloody hot week or very cold week, but not anything we can't handle, we aren't as helpless as the countless Youtube videos talking about death and destruction and how its the end try to make it out to be. If you believe its the end then I would borrow as much money from a bank as you can get and have an awesome time, but I think we all know deep down you would have to pay it back.....lol.

If this band of energy is freaking you out then the last time we went through it, 26,000 years ago would mean that we all died and are not actually here or else its completely survivable. But now the new twist is, this time around there will be an evolutionary step attached to it....ooooh! who knows maybe I will be able to lift the DVD remote with my thoughts. Beats getting up off my lazy arse to go get it.

Well maybe I didn't cross all the T's or dot the I's with my slant on the information the right way but this is my general wonderment of this absolutely amazing time to be alive. Always trying to learn always trying to make sense, and always prepared to be wrong

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soxism · 30-03-2009, 11:16 AM

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Interesting Read Branjo.. Shall looking into this Bruce Lipton a bit more...

disorder2k8 · 30-03-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by soxism

I haven't Read THIS particular article, but if it has anything Massively Negative in it, like the end of the world blah, i'll palm it off as propaganda

EDIT: So I Had a quick watch.. "A short interview from fox news" ...Fox News.. Like Hell anything they give you is "News"... and untill i've done research i wouldnt be too quickly to believe Dr Michio Kaku either..

The Video is Full of FEAR.. Oh No Watch out! It will Wipe out TV, GPS oh No! Etc....

Yes the Sun will be Massively More Active. But it WILL NOT Destory Earth.. as they want you to keep believing...

Seriously Stop buying into such our right propoganda

He didnt say it would destroy earth, he just said it would knock out anything electrical, which a solar/magnetic/electrical wave can potentially do

branjo · 30-03-2009, 06:08 PM

You will not be disappointed Soxism, Bruce Lipton is an extremely interesting Guy, he doesn't bombard you with crazy sounded technical terms, whatever he talks about he reduces the explanation to something we can all understand. I find this a very important thing to be able to do, as it doesn't alienate the beginner like me right of the bat, ya know.

He had done an experiment where he actually removed the DNA from a cell and then changed the environment of the single cell and the cell did nothing different, just kept on plodding along doing what it was doing before the DNA was removed, but didn't react to the environment. When he put it back in it started to react again, So the DNA is basically like a box of tools the Cell needs to adapt and change.

He is a very spiritual man as well and understands that DNA is directly affected by the emotions not only of the person owning them but by the other people around us which is part of our environment too. So the most basic advice of "Staying Positive" is scientifically proven to be a very large part of healing and our immune systems

Stress being put on a person lowers their immune system and shortens the spiral of the DNA where as feelings of joy will turn it into the long gentle spiral we are used to seeing, Death leaves it looking like train tracks.

Sorry to run off at the fingers again, but its kind of exciting info for someone like me who while in school would have used any old excuse to get out of boring science's cause I just didn't get it, not that many teachers did anything but read from a book too.

Another few of guys worth checking out ( if you haven't already that is) that will leave you feeling quite different after you hear what they have to say are,

Greg Braden - Who deals with Ancient spirituality and the holographic/fractal design
David Wilcock - 2012 and what it could mean, lots of information of a number of things
Nassim Haramein - Physics and the structure of the Vacuum, Sacred Geometry and the Unification of Einstein field equations through the dynamics of "spin". Plus he touches on the ancients and historical events from our own young history, a top notch "self taught" physicist.
Terence Mckenna - The man was a wealth of knowledge on Shamanistic cultures and the multidimensional aspect to sacred plants, and 2012, a truly wonderful man, that is missed.
Stephen Greer - Zero point energy and Alien Hoaxes to induce fear of ET's, the "enemies where there are none" approach to ET encounters.

Hand on heart I can honestly say these guys have undeniably changed my perspective.

Im glad more and more of us are taking an interest in the calm and rational sense of 2012 and not just screaming about all the fear that will inherently come with it, look at "Y2k" it was just the "possibility" of electrical systems needing recalibrating and look at the crazy's that came out about that one....lol. Fear is the only thing that has ever kept the human race down, and now somehow we are all on the same page, no one not even the indigenous tribes of the world haven't heard about the Galactic alignment and the event of 2012.

Whatever happens we need to meet it with open eyes and open hearts or through fear our cells will just shut down our DNA and that could be the excuse for those to say "I told you so". For me the future is exceedingly bright, and I aim to accept what ever the Universe has in store for me, lol cause if we don't, what are we gonna do, argue with it?

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soxism · 30-03-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by branjo

You will not be disappointed Soxism

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Greg Braden - Who deals with Ancient spirituality and the holographic/fractal design
David Wilcock - 2012 and what it could mean, lots of information of a number of things
Nassim Haramein - Physics and the structure of the Vacuum, Sacred Geometry and the Unification of Einstein field equations through the dynamics of "spin". Plus he touches on the ancients and historical events from our own young history, a top notch "self taught" physicist.
Terence Mckenna - The man was a wealth of knowledge on Shamanistic cultures and the multidimensional aspect to sacred plants, and 2012, a truly wonderful man, that is missed.
Stephen Greer - Zero point energy and Alien Hoaxes to induce fear of ET's, the "enemies where there are none" approach to ET encounters.

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Im glad more and more of us are taking an interest in the calm and rational sense of 2012 and not just screaming about all the fear that will inherently come with it, look at "Y2k" it was just the "possibility" of electrical systems needing recalibrating and look at the crazy's that came out about that one....lol. Fear is the only thing that has ever kept the human race down, and now somehow we are all on the same page, no one not even the indigenous tribes of the world haven't heard about the Galactic alignment and the event of 2012.

Greatly Appreciate the info branjo.. On your list The Last Two Names Really Leap out at me.. How Highly Icke speaks of Credo Mutwa i have been wanting some more reliable info about Shamanistic cultures and the multidimensional aspect..

Will Look forward to reading!

shrouded · 30-03-2009, 10:30 PM

I'm glad so many people have taken the time to view the image,

I agree with Branjo's way of thinking completely.

There is no need to fear the future no matter what is going to happen. We will never know for sure until those days come and go and we can turn on the news or look out of the window and see it physically for ourselves.

What I do know is that 2-3 years ago I did'nt have a clue about any of this stuff. I thought the universe was too much of a paradox to even waste time with, ET's were science fiction and scare tactics and spiritualism was a nice word for crazy people.

it seems almost daily that i feel more connected with the earth and the true environment around me. I know some people might not grasp what i'm saying, but it feels alot like waking up. I study cell biology at university and the complexity of cells and genetics is incredible. For anyone to to say "The body ould never do this or that could never happen" really does not appreciate just what the body does on a daily basis anyway just to keep you free to say how useless it is.

23/12/2012 is an important day for humanity, but it is the build up towards that day by human beings that is far more important.

You could scan the internet all day and night reading countless theories, everything from the end of the world to an alien invasion, but I would honestly suggest just enjoying life and finding the real beauty and symmetry in nature and the world around you.

( oh and just stock up on alcohol in case it is bad news

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watson_k · 31-03-2009, 12:33 AM

Errr...Has the date changed from 21st December 2012 to 23rd ?

branjo · 06-04-2009, 09:22 AM

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Errr...Has the date changed from 21st December 2012 to 23rd ?

Best to just not plan anything for the whole weekend, just in case

mister x · 06-04-2009, 11:40 AM

Hi,

I wanted to share and ask something that was brought to my attention a couple of days ago, and psych... you'll like this one mate, hold onto your hat.

In a political forum I attend a new user joined only 3 days ago. His first post was in a thread I had 'posted in' the day before answering another user's remarks/question. Here is what he said verbatim:

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Hey, I'm new to this site. My friend told me about it because I was banned from another site. Maybe some of you have heard of it? It's called Prisonplanet.com They banned me because I have hard evidence of something HUGE that the media has been lying about. I am not going to say or show what I have until I am given the ok. I do not wish to be banned again for speaking the truth and backing it with PURE PROOF. I just want to let people know what's out there so that they can possibly prepare and not take these days for granted. You see, people say "well i'd rather not know" I just can't see how that is. If you don't know, then you may take these days for granted. If you KNOW, then you can live each day the best that you can and start preparing for what is coming. Once again....I have HARD evidence and WANT to share it, but I will not until I am given the ok. I was banned once and everything that I posted was deleted because of my evidence.

Two hours later, another well known user of the board responds to him with this:

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Prisonplanet shows you having 44 posts. So maybe all of your work was not deleted.
I would suggest you read the forum rules... and then make appropriate posts.

Soon after, I sent him a PM telling him that I wanted to see what he had whether or not he posted it in the forum and left him with my email. To which he replied the next day with this, verbatim:

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I read your last post. I like the way you think. I'm a very suspicious person now. I didn't use to be until I started digging deep in the conspiracies that make up this world. My evidence is of Nibiru or some may call it "Planet X". Here's what I am trying to show people

... and he included a jpeg to which I then respond asking him WHERE and WHEN he took the picture and if he had any more, and he responded with:

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First off, my cellphone doesn't shoew the exact dates of the pictures, but they are very recent. I've been taking hundreds of pictures of this thing for a few weeks now. I don't have an exact date, but I CAN tell you that I took more pictures yesterday and they are exactly the same. 2nd, I live in Illinois. So you were right about me being in the northern hemisphere. Here's the thing, you can DEFINATELY capture it yourself. You were actually able to see it down there before I was able to. People just didn't know it was there though. Another thing.....I wish that I could send you all of my pictures. Like I said, I have hundreds, but i'm unable to transfer my pictures from my phone on to my computer. I'm also unable to send or receive pictures. So what I had to do to get THAT pic on was I had to bluetooth it to my sister and then she emailed the picture to me and so I finally had it on my computer. Before this happened I tried talking to people about this subject and I caught TONNSS of crap from people. People were swearing at me, calling me a false prophet....crazy. But then I was finally able to post my pic and people immediately started giving me public apologies. A mass amount of people woke up, and then I was banned. Actually made me feel good because I knew I hit a nerve on the media. And I will NOT stop. I can probably get my sister to email me maybe 2 more pics if you'd like. It costs her money otherwise I'd have her send them all. In order for you to capture it you'll need to either turn the contrast all the way down or you can use a filter. And then you should be able to capture it. Let me know what you get.

Anyway, what I'd like to ask if is any of you people could try and get a picture of it ASAP and post it here. I live near Melbourne Victoria in Australia and the clouds have rolled in thick and are due to stay for at least a week, so we won't have a clear sky for a while.

I'd appreciate anyone making an effort to verify this.

Here's the picture he sent:

http://xs138.xs.to/xs138/09151/nibiruillinois829.jpg

Thanks.

branjo · 06-04-2009, 12:28 PM

I live in those parts and I will take a look in about an hour or two when the Sun comes up, although is snowed last night lets hope for clear skies, I have extremely sensitive eyes these days, basically I spend most of my free time in the dungeon (Basement) with my various PC's. I will hunt out my digicam and put my shades on it, if I see anything, it will go straight on my next post.

I don't think anyone would have a problem here with a pic, I mean if its there its there, no bones about it. If it isn't i'll let you know, be a bit of a stretch but like I said I never look at the sun so its not something I would notice anyway.

And if it were that close, really we would be feeling a hell of a lot of turmoil, well I would think the gravity from it would be enough to notice,

Jaye on the other doesn't take his eyes off it...

dallas18 · 06-04-2009, 12:41 PM

wow that quite big

29-03-2009, 05:14 PM	#26
soxism Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 138	If people do their Research Also... Remember how much the Myans Loved their Sun! The Sun every x amount of years changes it magnetic poles. So South becomes North, and North Becomes South.. It also indicated Massive Massive Activity within the Sun... 2012 just happens to be the year that Our Sun changes its Magnetic poles. Already The Global warming Bullshit Feed to us, 'they' always seem to forget to mention the MAJOR influencing factor of heat on earth.. The SUN! With More Electro magnetic activity within the Sun means an increase in many form, but for this point, Heat... So.. Lets work with; if we are All Energy.. why wouldnt the Sun's Electro activity effect us on a conscience level? if we are all an infinite conscientiousness, and the Sun is coming to full power around 2012... Why wouldn't that indicate that we will proceed to be more "mentally" stimulated and the possibility of a mass awakening... maybe even for some being able to connect to the 4th dimention Its my view that much of the 2012 stuff that has to do with Fear is all the illuminati's disinformation... If they keep us fearful we keep empowering them.. we have nothing to worry about 2012.. The more i read, the more im starting to think even Planet X is all Disinformation Fear.. if it was real, it most certinally wouldnt be in the 3rd Dimention or how ever we see it. Also to Ask yourself, why is it that 2012 is such an important date to the illuminati.. why do they not want us to learn the truth? __________________ 'Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.' - Einstein All matter, is merely Energy condensed to a slow vibration. Last edited by soxism; 29-03-2009 at 05:16 PM.

26-03-2009, 03:56 PM	#21
majorlee Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Terran Posts: 4,573	yeah i agree only the sleeping sheep will not see the massive changes coming i keep positive and look forward to our amazing future but keepin firmly seated in the present roll on 2012 - whatever it has in store, its gunna be dead interesting peace

26-03-2009, 09:05 PM	#22
hank_scorpio Inactive Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Terra Posts: 503	Were in full control of our own futures and always have been. Im not waiting for ANYTHING im concentrating on becoming self-sufficient and at the point where I won't need money. Mayan calender says 3500 years 'niburu' comes, why is there no evidence of this claim. Maybe the translator made a mistake. Anybody even thought of that? Fuck I can't wait for 2012 now just so people will shut the fuck up. But then again when 2012 comes, ummm it wasn't 2012 it was 2024....Thats what WILL and always happened. Planet X has been coming for decades now the dates keep changing... 2012 the big solar storm IS what will cause massive damage to the energy infrastructure if this species hasn't destroyed itself by then.

29-03-2009, 08:54 PM	#28
disorder2k8 Inactive Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,996	note sure if anyone has posted this Dr. Michio Kaku - 2012 Solar Storms Are Coming http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/...ms_Are_Coming/

30-03-2009, 10:17 AM	#30
branjo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: No longer with this forum Posts: 2,282	Begin rant ----------- If the event aspect of 2012 were to happen right now there would be evidence to support that it may do us harm, "but as we are now". Many scientists have began to see a development in the Biology of human beings, I will take Bruce Lipton for example, as he is for me the introduction to the Jaw dropping world of New Biology and is a man that should be listened to. He has said in a very entertaining and enlightening way that the environment is the deciding factor of who you are and what your are, interesting. The cell membrane is what receives the changes in the environment not the DNA, the DNA is told what to do by the environment that is dictating it. When the environment changes, and it is changing in amazing ways and so will our planet, ie heating up, slowing its rotation, loosing magnetism, and gaining in frequency. So by that basic understanding when our own environment changes, we will be also changing and there is no doubt in any of our minds that things are indeed changing around us, in every perceivable way. So if our skin (which is our body's membrane) begins to receive more or a different kind of radiation the internal organs will adapt to it, they will do this by each individual cell membrane receiving a signal and the DNA within it will change to what ever the new environment demands. Who knows what we may be immune to or be able to withstand. If you could tell a caterpillar "go to sleep and when you wake up you will be able to fly" I bet it would say "I know" or "Bollocks, you're off your rocker pal". So judging the effects or possible effects of 2012 here and now, isn't going to give a good point of reference because we are in the midst of changing every single thing about ourselves. We think we are all learning about this kind of stuff because we are getting older and more mature, partly true but we also have to understand that our environment is dictating we have to change or else we will slip into a slow coma and that will be the end of this particular civilization cycle, not out of catastrophe, but out of a refusal to adapt. We must raise our own frequency and stop gravitating to anyone else like an emotional crutch. Our best chance is to listen to our very own soul that has probably gone through this event many times before, it just has fun seeing the ego freak out every time ..lol Refusal to adapt is the number one cause of the extinction of any species, like if your a tree dwelling monkey and a big fire wipes out your forest, you are going to have to eat different foods and learn how to run or you'll either starve or get eaten by something faster or hungrier. Lately drastic changes are happening within us all and I find myself constantly reminded that I am doing and saying things that I vowed never to say or do. I am actually trying to develop a spiritual connection with the world around me when before, I couldn't have cared any less, and thought it safer to just giggle with the rest at the person who would say such a thing. The most coolest aspect that I think we have enough information for now is that if your bedroom gets the sun in the morning then you are going to have to move to the other side of the house if you want it to stay that way. Its more common sense really that if you pass the equator on earth the natural rotation of the vortex will slow, stop and spin in the other direction. Why would the Galactic equator be any different?, the reason the magnetic poles are jumping around the planet is because the force that held them in place is getting weaker so the deviation happens, maybe because of the "moon" too which sparks of an entirely different debate as to its natural purpose or its given purpose. <---Insert Richard Hoagland video here---> There is a 4 hour lecture by Greg Braden who is feckin awesome btw, and he can make this a lot clearer than I possibly could, but he brings up ancient Hopi (I think its Hopi) and Peruvian ancient knowledge, the Hopi talk about the long day, and the tribes of Peru talk of the long night (opposite sides of the Earth). The Hopi say the sun rose as normal as it did everyday "in the west! and set again in the east" and then "rose again in the east and set in the west" this caused intense focus of heat for a part of the planet that was used to a cycle of heat and cold in the proper timescale, the Peruvians had the opposite effect, no sun, until it returned from the same side it set. Who knows this could be the reason for the desolate areas of the world, an intense solar (or lack of) period could disrupt the plant and animal kingdom enough to confuse it and produce enough of a rift in the Eco system, maybe enough to possibly ruin it? If we have even the slightest bit of knowledge that this has happened before then its happened for a hell of a long time before that. The earth could land on completely different areas every time and bake the crap out of them, I don't think we will be like running through the streets on fire but I think everyone should invest in a good hat and shades or gloves and a scarf, lol. If the Earth slows to a stop and rotates the other way, I doubt it would send you flying like a bus driver slamming on the brakes and everyone ending up with noses pushed against the windscreen, it will be as gradual as it can be. I have heard about this time period being as long as 3 days, or one 72 hour day...lol. Who knows for sure really? So 2012 for me will either be a bloody hot week or very cold week, but not anything we can't handle, we aren't as helpless as the countless Youtube videos talking about death and destruction and how its the end try to make it out to be. If you believe its the end then I would borrow as much money from a bank as you can get and have an awesome time, but I think we all know deep down you would have to pay it back.....lol. If this band of energy is freaking you out then the last time we went through it, 26,000 years ago would mean that we all died and are not actually here or else its completely survivable. But now the new twist is, this time around there will be an evolutionary step attached to it....ooooh! who knows maybe I will be able to lift the DVD remote with my thoughts. Beats getting up off my lazy arse to go get it. Well maybe I didn't cross all the T's or dot the I's with my slant on the information the right way but this is my general wonderment of this absolutely amazing time to be alive. Always trying to learn always trying to make sense, and always prepared to be wrong ----------- End rant

30-03-2009, 06:08 PM	#33
branjo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: No longer with this forum Posts: 2,282	You will not be disappointed Soxism, Bruce Lipton is an extremely interesting Guy, he doesn't bombard you with crazy sounded technical terms, whatever he talks about he reduces the explanation to something we can all understand. I find this a very important thing to be able to do, as it doesn't alienate the beginner like me right of the bat, ya know. He had done an experiment where he actually removed the DNA from a cell and then changed the environment of the single cell and the cell did nothing different, just kept on plodding along doing what it was doing before the DNA was removed, but didn't react to the environment. When he put it back in it started to react again, So the DNA is basically like a box of tools the Cell needs to adapt and change. He is a very spiritual man as well and understands that DNA is directly affected by the emotions not only of the person owning them but by the other people around us which is part of our environment too. So the most basic advice of "Staying Positive" is scientifically proven to be a very large part of healing and our immune systems Stress being put on a person lowers their immune system and shortens the spiral of the DNA where as feelings of joy will turn it into the long gentle spiral we are used to seeing, Death leaves it looking like train tracks. Sorry to run off at the fingers again, but its kind of exciting info for someone like me who while in school would have used any old excuse to get out of boring science's cause I just didn't get it, not that many teachers did anything but read from a book too. Another few of guys worth checking out ( if you haven't already that is) that will leave you feeling quite different after you hear what they have to say are, Greg Braden - Who deals with Ancient spirituality and the holographic/fractal design David Wilcock - 2012 and what it could mean, lots of information of a number of things Nassim Haramein - Physics and the structure of the Vacuum, Sacred Geometry and the Unification of Einstein field equations through the dynamics of "spin". Plus he touches on the ancients and historical events from our own young history, a top notch "self taught" physicist. Terence Mckenna - The man was a wealth of knowledge on Shamanistic cultures and the multidimensional aspect to sacred plants, and 2012, a truly wonderful man, that is missed. Stephen Greer - Zero point energy and Alien Hoaxes to induce fear of ET's, the "enemies where there are none" approach to ET encounters. Hand on heart I can honestly say these guys have undeniably changed my perspective. Im glad more and more of us are taking an interest in the calm and rational sense of 2012 and not just screaming about all the fear that will inherently come with it, look at "Y2k" it was just the "possibility" of electrical systems needing recalibrating and look at the crazy's that came out about that one....lol. Fear is the only thing that has ever kept the human race down, and now somehow we are all on the same page, no one not even the indigenous tribes of the world haven't heard about the Galactic alignment and the event of 2012. Whatever happens we need to meet it with open eyes and open hearts or through fear our cells will just shut down our DNA and that could be the excuse for those to say "I told you so". For me the future is exceedingly bright, and I aim to accept what ever the Universe has in store for me, lol cause if we don't, what are we gonna do, argue with it? .

30-03-2009, 10:30 PM	#35
shrouded Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: I havent dcided yet Posts: 136	I'm glad so many people have taken the time to view the image, I agree with Branjo's way of thinking completely. There is no need to fear the future no matter what is going to happen. We will never know for sure until those days come and go and we can turn on the news or look out of the window and see it physically for ourselves. What I do know is that 2-3 years ago I did'nt have a clue about any of this stuff. I thought the universe was too much of a paradox to even waste time with, ET's were science fiction and scare tactics and spiritualism was a nice word for crazy people. it seems almost daily that i feel more connected with the earth and the true environment around me. I know some people might not grasp what i'm saying, but it feels alot like waking up. I study cell biology at university and the complexity of cells and genetics is incredible. For anyone to to say "The body ould never do this or that could never happen" really does not appreciate just what the body does on a daily basis anyway just to keep you free to say how useless it is. 23/12/2012 is an important day for humanity, but it is the build up towards that day by human beings that is far more important. You could scan the internet all day and night reading countless theories, everything from the end of the world to an alien invasion, but I would honestly suggest just enjoying life and finding the real beauty and symmetry in nature and the world around you. ( oh and just stock up on alcohol in case it is bad news )

31-03-2009, 12:33 AM	#36
watson_k Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 300	Errr...Has the date changed from 21st December 2012 to 23rd ?

06-04-2009, 12:28 PM	#39
branjo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: No longer with this forum Posts: 2,282	I live in those parts and I will take a look in about an hour or two when the Sun comes up, although is snowed last night lets hope for clear skies, I have extremely sensitive eyes these days, basically I spend most of my free time in the dungeon (Basement) with my various PC's. I will hunt out my digicam and put my shades on it, if I see anything, it will go straight on my next post. I don't think anyone would have a problem here with a pic, I mean if its there its there, no bones about it. If it isn't i'll let you know, be a bit of a stretch but like I said I never look at the sun so its not something I would notice anyway. And if it were that close, really we would be feeling a hell of a lot of turmoil, well I would think the gravity from it would be enough to notice, Jaye on the other doesn't take his eyes off it...

06-04-2009, 12:41 PM	#40
dallas18 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 80	wow that quite big