e cigs

debs67gb · 13-03-2009, 09:16 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7941021.stm

methinks government have their knickers in a twist cos they aint getting a huge percentage off em :-)

gilly · 13-03-2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debs67gb

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7941021.stm

methinks government have their knickers in a twist cos they aint getting a huge percentage off em :-)

Yes, I'll bet there are loads of kids forking out 40 quid for the starter packs, then swallowing the cartiridges & choking on them - NOT.

They don't even try to make their bull shit plausible any more.

1971 · 13-03-2009, 10:03 AM

me and OH have these, i havent used mine for a few weeks but when i did they are actually quite nice, they do give you a bit of a buzz, its like clean smoking.

debs67gb · 13-03-2009, 10:05 AM

ahhh 1971 I wondered how you had gone on with them - and no children grasped the capsule from within and killed themselves with a deadly nicotine dose then?

pinkgrapefruit · 13-03-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debs67gb

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7941021.stm

methinks government have their knickers in a twist cos they aint getting a huge percentage off em :-)

Quote:

Ministers are being urged to restrict the sale of 'electronic' cigarettes amid fears they could be harmful.

Retailers say they are a healthy alternative to real cigarettes because their users can inhale nicotine without tar, tobacco or carbon monoxide.

But trading standards officers say children could buy them and be exposed to dangerous levels of the drug.

Right, okay... So just like the restricted sale of alcohol then? ...Because afterall, children could buy it and be exposed to dangerous levels of the drug.

So it wont be long before E-Cigs are available as lost leaders in Tesco's then?

Methinks yooam right Debs.

olas · 13-03-2009, 12:46 PM

Macanudo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by debs67gb

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7941021.stm

methinks government have their knickers in a twist cos they aint getting a huge percentage off em :-)

1971 · 13-03-2009, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debs67gb

ahhh 1971 I wondered how you had gone on with them - and no children grasped the capsule from within and killed themselves with a deadly nicotine dose then?

actually i got to dig it out and start stopping again...start stopping does that make sense!! no children in my house so no nasty accidents! lol
So far 4 other people i know have also purchased them.

kiwimaj · 13-03-2009, 04:58 PM

..MAYBE IT HAS SOMETHING TO WITH THIS....

I have heard that pure nicotine is actually GOOD for you...

Nicotine - Are We Ignoring Its Health Benefits

For many these will seem a strange statement however current medical research actually supports the view that nicotine could actually have some serious health benefits.

The problem for many people is that Nicotine is responsible for the addiction of cigarette smoking, so must be bad for you.

They cannot accept that Nicotine could possibly be good for you and simply make it guilty by association.

Let's check out the facts.

Nicotine is NOT responsible for smoking deaths by cancer

Nicotine is actually one of around 4,000 chemicals that are consumed during cigarette smoking.

In addition to tar, there is also carbon monoxide, ammonia and arsenic. In fact, at least 43 of the chemicals in tobacco smoke are known to cause cancers of the lung, throat, mouth, bladder and kidneys.

Nicotine is ONLY the ingredient responsible for the addiction; it is some of the other compounds that are primarily responsible for the harmful health effects of smoking cigarettes.

There is no evidence to date that indicates that nicotine itself can cause cancer.

Nicotine in its natural state is safe and non toxic

Nicotine is a naturally occurring compound.

Trace elements can be found in common foods and vegetables such as potatoes, tomatoes, cauliflower and is also found in some teas.

In its natural state, and when ingested through the digestive system, nicotine is safe and non-toxic.

It does not present the health hazards associated with smoking cigarettes.

Medical research

Many studies including some sponsored by the federal government, have shown that nicotine may in fact delay the onset and effects of both Parkinson's and Alzheimer's diseases.

Furthermore, it may also improve symptoms of attention deficit disorder and also Tourettes syndrome.

Nicotine has also been found to influence mood, mental alertness, and addiction.

Scientists have discovered that nicotine acts on nerve cells to enhance the release of neurotransmitters, chemicals that relay messages within the brain and nicotine increases a person's ability to focus and pay attention.

Nicotine is also known to switch on receptors on the surface of cells in certain parts of the brain, causing these neurons to release the Neuro-transmitter dopamine, a chemical that is responsible for feelings of pleasure.

Why don’t we take the potential benefits of Nicotine seriously?

Efforts by the anti smoking lobby to stop smoking, have seen nicotine's potential benefits not get the recognition they deserve. Nicotine is simply seen as being bad due to its association with smoking, even though it is just one of numerous chemcials contained in a cigarette.

This is really like saying wheat is bad for you as some beers use wheat in the brewing process and people die of alcohol abuse. Of course, wheat in it's natural state is not the cause of death and we all know that, however we are less open minded on our view of nicotine.

Decide for yourself

Medical research into Nicotine shows by itself, in its natural state, it is safe and non toxic and medical evidence at present suggests that Nicotine could actually have serious health benefits.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Nicotine--...its?&id=291157

Its like so many previously NATURAL products, the PTB have adulterated it to oblivion and turned it into the "evil weed"..Pro cannibus users will atest to this, I am sure. Notice how they are jumping up and down over this..if they are really and truly concerned with the health of this country, then why don't they ban other truly noxious crap, like MCDONALDS, KFC, BURGER KING, to name just a few.....or could it be to do with the fact they wouldn't get the same taxation from the e-cigs, like mainstream fags give them...hmmm...it always comes down to money, and control.

mightiswrong · 13-03-2009, 05:41 PM

I have smoked some wild natural tobacco from south america and it was definately a whole different buzz. It was for smoking while on ayunaushka (sp) so tobacco is ofcourse a spiritual drug. peace pipe etc. The south american stuff was way nicer although very harsh. probably home grown would be similar and could be turned into a liquid for esmoking (government would love that)

I am happy with my ecig although I still smoke analogues but have cut down and will see about stopping.

I have read that there is something in the tobacco that makes the nicotine stay longer in the body and this explains why the ecig is somehow not as satisfying but i think it just takes getting used to. I have certainly found that having a good vape will stop me going out to buy cigies.

the nine · 14-03-2009, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debs67gb

ahhh 1971 I wondered how you had gone on with them - and no children grasped the capsule from within and killed themselves with a deadly nicotine dose then?

I call for the immediate withdrawal of all drawing pins under the health and safety issue..

13-03-2009, 09:16 AM	#1
debs67gb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,956	e cigs http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7941021.stm methinks government have their knickers in a twist cos they aint getting a huge percentage off em :-)

13-03-2009, 10:03 AM	#3
1971 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Posts: 410	me and OH have these, i havent used mine for a few weeks but when i did they are actually quite nice, they do give you a bit of a buzz, its like clean smoking. __________________ Are we a spiritual being having a human experience or are we a human being having a spiritual experience?

13-03-2009, 04:58 PM	#8
kiwimaj Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, England Posts: 3,245	Pure Nicotine, the health BENEFITS ..MAYBE IT HAS SOMETHING TO WITH THIS.... I have heard that pure nicotine is actually GOOD for you... Nicotine - Are We Ignoring Its Health Benefits For many these will seem a strange statement however current medical research actually supports the view that nicotine could actually have some serious health benefits. The problem for many people is that Nicotine is responsible for the addiction of cigarette smoking, so must be bad for you. They cannot accept that Nicotine could possibly be good for you and simply make it guilty by association. Let's check out the facts. Nicotine is NOT responsible for smoking deaths by cancer Nicotine is actually one of around 4,000 chemicals that are consumed during cigarette smoking. In addition to tar, there is also carbon monoxide, ammonia and arsenic. In fact, at least 43 of the chemicals in tobacco smoke are known to cause cancers of the lung, throat, mouth, bladder and kidneys. Nicotine is ONLY the ingredient responsible for the addiction; it is some of the other compounds that are primarily responsible for the harmful health effects of smoking cigarettes. There is no evidence to date that indicates that nicotine itself can cause cancer. Nicotine in its natural state is safe and non toxic Nicotine is a naturally occurring compound. Trace elements can be found in common foods and vegetables such as potatoes, tomatoes, cauliflower and is also found in some teas. In its natural state, and when ingested through the digestive system, nicotine is safe and non-toxic. It does not present the health hazards associated with smoking cigarettes. Medical research Many studies including some sponsored by the federal government, have shown that nicotine may in fact delay the onset and effects of both Parkinson's and Alzheimer's diseases. Furthermore, it may also improve symptoms of attention deficit disorder and also Tourettes syndrome. Nicotine has also been found to influence mood, mental alertness, and addiction. Scientists have discovered that nicotine acts on nerve cells to enhance the release of neurotransmitters, chemicals that relay messages within the brain and nicotine increases a person's ability to focus and pay attention. Nicotine is also known to switch on receptors on the surface of cells in certain parts of the brain, causing these neurons to release the Neuro-transmitter dopamine, a chemical that is responsible for feelings of pleasure. Why don’t we take the potential benefits of Nicotine seriously? Efforts by the anti smoking lobby to stop smoking, have seen nicotine's potential benefits not get the recognition they deserve. Nicotine is simply seen as being bad due to its association with smoking, even though it is just one of numerous chemcials contained in a cigarette. This is really like saying wheat is bad for you as some beers use wheat in the brewing process and people die of alcohol abuse. Of course, wheat in it's natural state is not the cause of death and we all know that, however we are less open minded on our view of nicotine. Decide for yourself Medical research into Nicotine shows by itself, in its natural state, it is safe and non toxic and medical evidence at present suggests that Nicotine could actually have serious health benefits. http://ezinearticles.com/?Nicotine--...its?&id=291157 Its like so many previously NATURAL products, the PTB have adulterated it to oblivion and turned it into the "evil weed"..Pro cannibus users will atest to this, I am sure. Notice how they are jumping up and down over this..if they are really and truly concerned with the health of this country, then why don't they ban other truly noxious crap, like MCDONALDS, KFC, BURGER KING, to name just a few.....or could it be to do with the fact they wouldn't get the same taxation from the e-cigs, like mainstream fags give them...hmmm...it always comes down to money, and control. __________________ It's time to wake up and step outside of the square thing... When you wake up, you can finally see the puppet master and who wants to be a puppet??

13-03-2009, 05:41 PM	#9
mightiswrong Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,586	I have smoked some wild natural tobacco from south america and it was definately a whole different buzz. It was for smoking while on ayunaushka (sp) so tobacco is ofcourse a spiritual drug. peace pipe etc. The south american stuff was way nicer although very harsh. probably home grown would be similar and could be turned into a liquid for esmoking (government would love that) I am happy with my ecig although I still smoke analogues but have cut down and will see about stopping. I have read that there is something in the tobacco that makes the nicotine stay longer in the body and this explains why the ecig is somehow not as satisfying but i think it just takes getting used to. I have certainly found that having a good vape will stop me going out to buy cigies. __________________ "People will see what children can be - People will learn life in paradise." "What is fearsome is powerless to affect a fearless man." "No matter how omnipotent a monster may seem, once it is forgotten it ceases to exist altogether." Last edited by mightiswrong; 13-03-2009 at 05:50 PM.

13-03-2009, 10:05 AM	#4
debs67gb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,956	ahhh 1971 I wondered how you had gone on with them - and no children grasped the capsule from within and killed themselves with a deadly nicotine dose then?