What about secession from the government?

rhydra · 04-03-2009, 05:42 PM

For those of us who lack the money and resources to emigrate and vote without feet and those of us who know that an "X" on a piece of paper is really as worthless as the paper it is written on I have an idea.
Why not secede from the system. The government want to control and destry it's citizens inch by inch, bit by bit, using them as a resource and to support the parasitic ruling classes while restricting their freedom of speech, assembly, information and in some cases even the basic necessities like shelter and medical treatment.
it is time to turn our backs on the state which will only change in name only every four or five years and strike out with our own system of government and representation, indeed, there should be no taxation without representation, who represents us? The banks are repesented, the multinationals are, the arms dealers are, the people who pay the wages of the MPS and ministers, government and shadow are seen as an annoyance, in inconvenience to be ignored as much as possible. If the people of this country can't be ignored then there are other means to deal woth them, usually the criminal law.
So it's is time to discuss a state within a state, renouncing one's citizenship, our own banks and financial infrastructure based on actual wealth not mickey mouse finances of the Fred Goodwinocracy, own healthcare system, representation, justice and education system.

The people of Britain have to declare independence from this government and state.

armoured_amazon · 04-03-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rhydra

The people of Britain have to declare independence from this government and state.

How do we do it?

dreamweaver · 04-03-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by armoured_amazon

How do we do it?

Become freemen on the land?

armoured_amazon · 04-03-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamweaver

Become freemen on the land?

I'm still figuring that out....

apekteina lordosis · 04-03-2009, 06:10 PM

it's a great idea and perhaps the internet could be a tool for compiling votes on an issue by issue basis. perhaps a open source peer2peer type system to ensure no one fiddles with the counts.

wakeupworld · 04-03-2009, 07:07 PM

Yes a great idea for us to turn our backs on the state.
The government would have nothing to govern if we all did this.
I disagree with the idea however of forming our own government.
There would still be corruption I`m sorry to say even from a well meaning starting point.
The freeman option looks to be a good way to cease being empowered by the state.

rhydra · 05-03-2009, 04:15 PM

It's all about subservience to the state, if you can just say, sorry, nothing to do with me, not my government, you don't represent me, I don't have to move into another country, A: I can't afford to do and B: I have no allegiance to those who govern this country because they don't have the best interests of the people of this country.

dlb2007 · 05-03-2009, 04:19 PM

how about WE call an election

04-03-2009, 05:42 PM	#1
rhydra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 8,469	What about secession from the government? For those of us who lack the money and resources to emigrate and vote without feet and those of us who know that an "X" on a piece of paper is really as worthless as the paper it is written on I have an idea. Why not secede from the system. The government want to control and destry it's citizens inch by inch, bit by bit, using them as a resource and to support the parasitic ruling classes while restricting their freedom of speech, assembly, information and in some cases even the basic necessities like shelter and medical treatment. it is time to turn our backs on the state which will only change in name only every four or five years and strike out with our own system of government and representation, indeed, there should be no taxation without representation, who represents us? The banks are repesented, the multinationals are, the arms dealers are, the people who pay the wages of the MPS and ministers, government and shadow are seen as an annoyance, in inconvenience to be ignored as much as possible. If the people of this country can't be ignored then there are other means to deal woth them, usually the criminal law. So it's is time to discuss a state within a state, renouncing one's citizenship, our own banks and financial infrastructure based on actual wealth not mickey mouse finances of the Fred Goodwinocracy, own healthcare system, representation, justice and education system. The people of Britain have to declare independence from this government and state. __________________ Man is a tool created by the Universe to mark time.

05-03-2009, 04:15 PM	#7
rhydra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 8,469	It's all about subservience to the state, if you can just say, sorry, nothing to do with me, not my government, you don't represent me, I don't have to move into another country, A: I can't afford to do and B: I have no allegiance to those who govern this country because they don't have the best interests of the people of this country. __________________ Man is a tool created by the Universe to mark time.

04-03-2009, 06:10 PM	#5
apekteina lordosis Inactive Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,605	it's a great idea and perhaps the internet could be a tool for compiling votes on an issue by issue basis. perhaps a open source peer2peer type system to ensure no one fiddles with the counts.

04-03-2009, 07:07 PM	#6
wakeupworld Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 719	Yes a great idea for us to turn our backs on the state. The government would have nothing to govern if we all did this. I disagree with the idea however of forming our own government. There would still be corruption I`m sorry to say even from a well meaning starting point. The freeman option looks to be a good way to cease being empowered by the state.

05-03-2009, 04:19 PM	#8
dlb2007 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,214	how about WE call an election