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Old 23-02-2009, 05:46 AM   #1
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Default Underwater cities off Cuba part of lost Atlantis

Underwater cities off Cuba could be part of lost Atlantis

Skepticism and Science are defeated

Video- the lost hall of records of Atlantis' history
http://www.mysterious-america.net/yucatandvdclip1.html

Video talking about an area where atlantis was
http://www.mysterious-america.net/atlantisclip9.html

Video with images of the underwater cities off Cuba-

The world's mysterious places

Edgar Cayce on Atlantis
http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/juliet.htm

Article about Plato's description
http://www.cycleoftime.com/articles_...p?codArtigo=68

The Ancient Hebrew Kabbalistic and Magic Alphabets
http://www.prs.org/gallery-kabblh.htm

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"Its figures are supposedly derived from the constellations. Advanced students of occult philosophy will come upon many valuable documents in which these figures are used. Under each letter of the first alphabet above is its equivalent in English. Above each letter of the other three alphabets is its Hebrew letter equivalent."
Tarot and hebrew Alphabet are both 22 parts + the name of god YHVH. Greek and even English could be more distantly related, english alphabet is 26 parts. Tarot is where heiryoglyphs come from
http://www.crystalinks.com/tarot.html


40,000 year old footprints in mexico cause evolutionists to scramble to make desperate and irrational exuses.
http://www.ljmu.ac.uk/NewsCentre/64361.htm
http://www.mexicanfootprints.co.uk/default.htm

lol! "evolutionists uhappy with results!" Notic how they claim, "it must be either a whole magnitude wrong and they must be way older, or they're not footprints at all then probably, or this or that excuse, but it can't be what the dating methods indicated!" Lol @ scrambling to make excuses and reinterpret things
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0..._footprints.asp



Ice Age civilizations destroyed

Earth changes, we know the exact dates
http://www.grahamhancock.com/underworld/
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/gornitz_09/
http://www.agiweb.org/geotimes/june02/NN_ice.html
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The rate of sea level rise slowed between 14,000 and 12,000 years ago during the Younger Dryas cold period and was succeeded by another surge, "meltwater pulse 1B", 11,500-11,000 years ago, when sea level may have jumped by 28 m according to Fairbanks,

ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET KEY TO SUDDEN SEA LEVEL RISE IN THE PAST
http://eobglossary.gsfc.nasa.gov/Newsroom/...0203288330.html
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"This event happened near the end of the last Ice Age, a period of de-glaciation that lasted from about 21,000 years ago to 12,000 years ago," Clark said. "The average sea level rise during that period was about eight millimeters per year. But during this meltwater pulse there was an extremely rapid disintegration of an ice sheet and sea levels rose much faster than average."

The amount of sea level rise that occurred during a single year of that period, Clark said, is more than the total sea level rise that has occurred in the past 100 years.
The reality is that sea levels rose quite rapidly.


Ice age map, but they forgot Atlantis, anyways we see most of the world was Frozen, and Africa was covered in lakes and water prior to 10,500 BC. In any case most the the habitable lands centered at the equator prior t0 10,500BC are now under water-


Glaciers before 10.500 BC


Glaciers after 10,500 BC they melted and the earth's tilt axis shifted



The "Bullard" fit should be called the "Bullshit" fit
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/sunken.htm
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A 'compelling' piece of evidence that all the continents were once united in one large landmass is said to be the fact that they can be fitted together like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. However, although many reconstructions have been attempted, none are entirely acceptable. In the Bullard et al. computer-generated fit, for example, there are a number of glaring omissions. The whole of Central America and much of southern Mexico -- a region of some 2,100,000 km² -- has been left out because it overlaps South America. The entire West Indian archipelago has also been omitted. In fact, much of the Caribbean is underlain by ancient continental crust, and the total area involved, 300,000 km², overlaps Africa. The Cape Verde Islands-Senegal basin, too, is underlain by ancient continental crust, creating an additional overlap of 800,000 km². Several major submarine structures that appear to be of continental origin are also ignored, including the Faeroe-Iceland-Greenland Ridge, Jan Mayen Ridge, Walvis Ridge, Rio Grande Rise, and the Falkland Plateau.
Map


There is simply no fit. They don't even fit together. Look at the ends of africa and south america, they don't fit!


We also see that this area was once the edge of a continent now lost in the Atlantic Ocean. Obviously a continent existed between north and south america in the Atlantic Ocean, Plate tectonics is nonsense



What kind of catacalysm hit the globe so hard that we forgot about a whole continent full of pyramids, civilized and indeginous cultures?
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Rumours of Cataclysm

Following Columbus' celebrated landfall in the Bahamas in 1492, Spanish explorers heard stories from the indigenous peoples of the Caribbean and Bahamas that spoke of a flood which had devastated the archipelagos. It was said to have split apart a much larger landmass, killing the inhabitants and leaving the many thousands and islands and cays that remain today. Some of these stories include clues which hint at a much greater catastrophe. One from Tobago speaks of 'the ole moon breaking', while others from Venezuela and the Yucatan allude to a period of darkness, fire falling from the sky and the presence overhead of a fiery snake. Had some cosmic impact caused a massive cataclysm that devastated the Bahamas and Caribbean?



Some theories claim a dramatic destruction of the western hemispehere was more likely and also corroberates with Plato and Bacon's account of the destructiojn of Atlantis.
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The presence of around 500,000 elliptical craters, ranging from a few hundred metres to 11 kilometres in size, across the entire eastern seaboard of the United States, from New Jersey down to Miami, is perhaps the greatest clue. Modern theories are that these so-called Carolina Bays (after the states in which they were first noted during aerial surveys in the 1920s) were caused by a comet which entered the earth's atmosphere from the north-west over Alaska and disintegrated into millions of pieces that detonated above the ground, very much in the manner of the small comet which caused the Tunguska event in Siberia in June 1908.

The effects of the catastrophe, some time around the end of the last Ice Age, were extreme. Not only would it have caused a wall of fire and wind, which would have laid flat large areas of Tundra forest and decimated flora and fauna, but the resulting dust clouds would have created a 'nuclear winter' which seems to have resulted in a temporary re-advance of the ice fields that had covered much of North America, Europe and Asia for the previous 40,000 years. Moreover, hundreds and thousands of fragments of the comet falling in the western Atlantic basin would have produced tsunami waves of immense proportions which would have temporarily drowned both the eastern seaboard of the United States and the islands of the Bahamas and Caribbean, wiping out entire populations (a few must have got away to tell the tale, as it told in the creation myths of the indigenous peoples of both Central and North America, and also those of the Caribbean).

Could memories of this cataclysmic event have been preserved across millennia until they were recounted eventually to Spanish explorers that reached in the Bahamas and Caribbean in the wake of 1492? If so, were the same tales told to Phoenician and Carthaginian voyagers who visited these same islands prior to Plato's age? Did Plato come to hear not only of the islands which existed in the outer ocean, but also of the cataclysm which once devastated this self same region? Did it cause the landmass to be inundated by flood waters, splitting it into individual islands - temporarily at first, but then more permanently when eventually the ice fields of North America, Europe and Asia finally began to melt, causing the sea-level to rise by as much as 100 metres? Thus was the sinking of Atlantis a memory of the submergence of both the former Bahaman landmass and the low-lying regions of the Caribbean? Certainly we can say that all this took place around the very same time that Plato tells us Atlantis was destroyed by 'one terrible day and night of earthquakes and floods'. Moreover, if the Caribbean islands did once form part of Atlantis, then it would mean that part of the landmass was still above water today
Just looking at the area in question you can clearly see the submerged ancient lands.


The Aztecs and Mayans have stories were they claim the came from the cuba area before the great disaster.



ocean images. Bright white silicon roads and tunnels-
http://s8int.com/WordPress/?p=301
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Author R.J. Archer passed along some interesting new information on the Cuba underwater site. Apparently submerged lines have been discovered in various parts of the world which could have been roads. The new photos are actually by Satellite discoveries. A quote from his Blog:

“While the true nature of these linear patterns is not yet known, Satellite Discoveries has determined that the width of the lines is in the photos is consistent with the width of roads! If they are roads, the underwater ruins known as MEGA may turn out to be just the tip of the iceberg (no pun intended) when it comes to Caribbean mysteries.

Unfortunately, the Cuban sites are inaccessible to most of us, but the Florida site is only 90 to 110 feet deep and accessible with SCUBA gear. Who’s going to be the first to know what’s out there?”
Website with satellite images
http://www.nwidi.org/TheMegaBlog/

actual images=
http://www.nwidi.org/TheMegaBlog/photos/ma...26/425x292.aspx
http://www.nwidi.org/TheMegaBlog/photos/im...19/500x351.aspx
http://www.nwidi.org/TheMegaBlog/photos/im...14/500x310.aspx
http://www.nwidi.org/TheMegaBlog/photos/im...13/491x375.aspx
http://www.nwidi.org/TheMegaBlog/photos/im...14/500x310.aspx
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Old 23-02-2009, 05:47 AM   #2
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Bermuda


Articles on the new underwater finds. It cost 2$ million in grants just to research it a little bit-
http://www.cdnn.info/industry/i021017/i021017.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1374107/posts
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&cl...97554324900B252
http://www.s8int.com/water27.html

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"A clear explanation does not exist of how these structures formed by natural means. Offered this point of view as a geologist, I admit the possibility that it could be a question of not natural, that is to say structures, created by man, or some intelligent entity." - Manuel Iturralde of the National Museum of Natural History, Havana, considered to be the foremost geologist of Cuba.
and more recent-
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4801
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National Geographic Magazine will sponsor another underwater exploration of the sunken city off the Coast of Cuba this fall. Russian-Canadian oceanographer Pauline Zelitsky will head the expedition. Political differences prevent the US from participating, and much of the work has been done by France and Russia. So far, the exploration has been done by remote-controlled mini submarines, armed with video cameras. Their provocative images have shown what look like stepped pyramids, extending as far as South America (where these types of pyramids were built by the Mayans).

Zelitsky's theory is that a peninsula once stretched from the Yucatan to Cuba, which collapsed due to seismic activity. This reinforces the theory that early man did not arrive in the Americas by crossing the Bering Straits (a land bridge from Russia which no longer exists) but instead arrived from Asia via the Pacific Ocean. British archeologists have found human footprints in Puebla, Mexico that are 40,000 years old. On her early expeditions, Zelitsky discovered an underwater city with not only pyramids, but geometrically precise passages, tunnels and temples, many carved with ancient symbols.
The huge underwater man made megaltihs 2000 feet down-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/992589/posts
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmar5i.htm
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmar6i.htm
http://www.timstouse.com/EarthHistor...tis/bimini.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/interview2_ADC.html

Even National Geographic admits that there are prehistoric civilization submerged under the sea that could shed some light on possibly many flood legends, one of which could be atlantis
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...nkencities.html


Pyramids off the coast of Cuba



Info

High quality sonar images
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According to the investigators, these structures seem to be remains of streets, pyramids and buildings. Most of these blocks have gigantic dimensions, reaching to five meters of height and several tons of weight.
Massive underwater Megaliths


Internal Cross-


The contrast bertween dark and light on these structures according to investigators is probably because they are metal-




September 24, 2003 Havana, Cuba - It was a summer day in 2000 that the first surprising side scan sonar images of what looked like architecture were seen a half mile down off the western tip of Cuba. The ocean floor there is very flat and covered with white sand. The camera was run by the Remote Operated Video control room on the "BIC Ulises" ship owned and operated by engineer and oceanographer, Paulina Zelitsky, and her husband and business partner, Paul Weinzweig ­ co-owners of Advanced Digital Communications International, Inc. ­ or ADC International, Inc. Paulina was born and educated in the Soviet Union and was assigned to work in Cuba. Later, after she married Paul, a Canadian citizen, ADC was based in Canada. More recently, ADC International has become an international business company incorporated in the Commonwealth of the Bahamas to conduct deep ocean bottom survey in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico.

ADC International's research vessel, "BIC Ulises," an advanced deep ocean bottom
survey work platform. Photograph © 2002 by ADC International, Inc.


Real time video imaging and ROV control board, "BIC Ulises."
Photograph © 2002 by ADC International, Inc.


Graphic of side scan sonar scanning ocean
bottom © 2002 by ADC International, Inc.



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But it obviously didn't come from Cuba. That's one thing. The stone we recovered from ocean bottom is very polished granite. All of the peninsula of northwest part of Cuba, all of this peninsula is limestone, very fractured limestone. So, geologically, it (megalithic granite structures) is totally foreign to Cuba. But it's also not known in Yucatan because Yucatan is also limestone, not granite. Granite is found only in the center of Mexico.

It covers approximately a beautiful, beautiful, flat, clean area. Nothing else in this area. And it covers approximately 20 square kilometers of this area. It's flat, completely flat. Huge white silicon field. In the middle of all of that are these megalithic structures surfacing out of it.

Squared off large block of granite-like stone amid megalithic structures
a half mile deep covering an estimated 10 square kilometers.


Pyramid shape seems "carved out of" massive rectangular stone
that can be seen behind the pyramid glowing in the glare of the ROV's light-
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Rocks not belonging in that part of the world-
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The following pictures show two megaliths, one resembling a cube and the other a pyramid, a few cubic meters in volume.

The lithological composition of the rocks forming MEGA and the submarine structures cannot be accurately identified without conducting direct observations of the elements and taking sediment and rock samples is required. The few samples available up today are of rocks exotic to the nature of the megaliths, as they are rounded erosional elements. Two rock fragments recovered from inside one of the submarine features in MEGA are identified as a volcaniclastic sandstone and a carbonate breccia. Both are old rocks, probably not related to the composition of the megaliths, so they are of allochthonous origin. How these rocks reached the area of the megaliths is not yet understood.
Detailed and intelligently shaped


Rounded, megalithic granite-like rock with unidentified line detail.
Video image © 2002 by ADC International, Inc.


Another mystery - what is the triangular object that in the video seems
to be resting independently on the large, curved megalithic stone?
Video image © 2002 by ADC International, Inc.



24 miles across terra forming



Also, one method of very fast travel in those days was through underground inner earth tunnels.

Satellite images showing what they are calling a trench going from an island out in the middle of the atlantic connecting to the sunken city off Cuba

The image below also shows the same area with a red line overlaid on top of the existing underwater line. The red line turns into white where the line is visibly implied to reveal a direct alignment with the area to the West of the Cuba Island where a sunken city has been found. Read more about the Cuban underwater city in Andrew Collins' special report
http://www.altarcheologie.nl/middle_...nderwater!.htm





More info on how the land sank into the Atlantic ocean
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This is very interesting because this is evidence that the whole surface sank to the depth of 700 meters (2,297 feet, or about a half mile down).

The area has been seismically active for thousands of years. And what we find on the ocean bottom are fractures from which the magma and volcanic ash came out. From these structures we were able to delineate a configuration of the land that sank because you can see them clearly. The land that sank is very obvious from our image of the ocean bottom. And you can see bays, like harbors, and it's all at the depths of 900 and 700 meters.

Geologically, does Dr. Iturralde-Vinent and others have any idea what happened volcanically? Was it one large eruption or series of eruptions?

Series of eruptions and as he is saying, it is still active. A series of eruptions that created major tectonic movement to such a degree that land is sinking. For example, Cuba has sank and re-emerged a couple of times! But that was long ago, geologically. Now, what happened more recently geologically is that land sank that joined to Yucatan �_ islands between Yucatan and Cuba, they sank.

Belize . Massively drilled botomless holes. To exctract molten power from deep iside the earth, which created unstable land and Atlantis eventually sank from unnatural volcanoes, drilled holes, and widespread severe environmental destruction and pollution which made the earth more unstable

Click on link
http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/t...tbluehole.html
http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/ar...blueholemed.jpg




Sattelite discoveries
http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/

Lighthouse Reef
Latitude: 17.5 Longitude: -87.5


Latitude: 17.36453 Longitude: -87.51448
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An enlargement below shows linear and angled features.
Latitude: 17.36495 Longitude: -87.55513


More linear and angled features in the enlargement below:


More patterns on the Chinchorro Bank, North of the 'blue hole':
Latitude: 18.62085 Longitude: -87.33363




Florida Keys
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This image study includes underwater circular features in linear formations near the Green Mangrove Key, Buchanan Keys and Barnes Key in Florida. Circles in linear formations can also be seen near the Southern tip of Florida on land.




On land in Florida



Giant drilled holes
http://www.noc.soton.ac.uk/gg/classr...007/about.html


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...9-30417,00.html
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070...sed_mantle.html
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Seafloor Off Mid-Atlantic Coast Highly Charged with Gas-Vigorous gas expulsion could weaken shelf edge
http://www.nsf.gov/od/lpa/news/press/00/pr0038.htm


Informtion about Atlantean drilled holes, sinkholes caused by environmental damage in 10,500 BC, and the gravity anomolies caused by Atlantean drilling and industrial work.
http://www.cknw.com/news/news_local.cfm?ca...=news_local.cfm
http://www.backyardnature.net/n/05/050102.htm


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Gravity anomaly map of the Chicxulub Crater area. Red and yellow indicate gravity highs; green and
blue indicate gravitylows. The white line indicates the coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. White dots are
sinkholes, called "cenotes." Credit: Geological Survey of Canada


Power and technology far back in history-
http://www.s8int.com/water1.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic2.html
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1582
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=960
http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue18/18bermuda.html


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Most intriguingly, researchers using sonar equipment have discovered, at a depth of about 2,200 feet (700-800 meters), a huge land plateau with clear images of what appears to be urban development partly covered by sand.




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Sure looks like some big ol cosmic duck stomped on that territory south o' Cuba. Origin of accounts of THE FLOOD?






Beaches under the Atlantic
http://atlantis.haktanir.org/ch12.html
http://atlantis.haktanir.org/
http://atlantis.haktanir.org/ch7.html

more-
http://www.grahamhancock.com/underworld/Cr...tlantis.php?p=1

and-
http://www.echeat.com/essay.php?t=28714
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Many scientists refuse to accept Atlantis because it could discredit their own theories. For example, some of them still believe that sea level is constant since millions and millions years ago: this is unacceptable because sand, canyons and complex mountains under sea prove those areas were not covered by water before. Egyptologists believe the Sphinx was built by Chefren because they found his statue near the Sphinx’s temple, because the face of the great monument looks like his one (but was proved by specialised identifiers they’re different) and because Titmouse IV erected a obelisk in which declare that Chefren took off the sand that partially submerged the Sphinx.

If Atlantis really existed the history should be rewritten and it frightens a lot of scientifists. Also teachers are scared of this fact. Check this out, if the excistince of Atlantis becomes proven. The hole theorie of the Bible, historicy changes, everything becomes different. We don’t talk anymore about the first civilization in 4004 BC, no we start to talk about the first civilazation in 12000. Before the latest ice-time. Maybe, they even lived together with the dinosaurs, but that would get us too far.


Prehistoric nuclear reactor at Oklo, Gabon republic in Africa
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Here at s8int.com, we smell a rat. Below in an article entitled "Oklo, An Unappreciated Cosmic Phenomenom", "science" has applied several of its tried and true methodologies to "orthodoxize" that which otherwise would be a very strange and startling occurrence.

If you could go back and read the news and scientific articles at the time, you could contrast the shock, dismay and confusion caused by the initial announcement that nuclear material had been mined in the past and that the byproduct plutonium had been created at Oklo, --with the blase way the exlanation for the phenomenon is presented today.

In 1972, a French analyst named Bougzigues working at the Pierrelatte nuclear fuel processing plant detected a small but significant change in an important ratio between Uranium 235 and Uranium 238. The proper ratio is well known and well established in that field so that the change indicated that something way out of the ordinary was going on.

The initial suspicion was that someone had included spent fuel in with the recently mined ore. This was quickly ruled out because there was no radiation signature associated with the mystery uranium..

The mystery uranium was eventually traced back to the Gabon mine at Oklo. You need to understand that what was so incredible was that a nuclear reaction had occurred such that plutonium was created and that the nuclear reaction itself had been “moderated”! This means that once a reaction is initated, if you want to harness the power output in a controlled manner, you had better be able to keep it from exploding and releasing all the energy at once. .

At that time, people were speculating about aliens and advanced ancient civilizations. Some months after the discovery rocked the scientific world, someone came up with a somewhat dubious explanation which over time has taken on the patina of absolute certainty. It was a natural reactor which occurred billions of years ago. .

There are at least six zones of depleted uranium (usually means mined)with plutonium as a by product! You've got to really be trying to manufacture plutonium--its a complicated process.

Yet,scientists studying these zones have A Prori of course, decided not to consider that man was involved.

1)They place its occurrence safely "billions" of years ago. 2)They assume that a breeding reaction could occur naturally when no such evidence of that exists and creating a breeder reactor was once a technological holy grail which was diificult to achieve on purpose 3)They theorize that although it must have happened naturally in the distant past, that we need not worry about it occurring now, as conditions differ.4)Nature designed the reactor such that its spent fuel and dangerous byproducts were "contained".

Scientists use the principal of uniformism to draw conclusions about the future and the past. If they cannot use this "principle", then they can not draw any conclusions because they could not state that the conditions in the universe that exist now, always existed.

Here though as often happens, they have to assume that the past was vastly different as it related to the possibility of naturally occurring breeder reactions.

Again, scientists from other countries were skeptical when first hearing of these natural nuclear reactors. Some argued that the missing amounts of U-235 had been displaced over time, not split in nuclear fission reactions. "How," they asked, "could fission reactions happen in nature, when such a high degree of engineering, physics, and acute, detailed attention went into building a nuclear reactor?"

Perrin and the other French scientists concluded that the only other uranium samples with similar levels of the isotopes found at Oklo could be found in the used nuclear fuel produced by modern reactors. They found that the percentages of many isotopes at Oklo strongly resembled those in the spent fuel generated by nuclear power plants,







Interesting info on the remains of one of the oldest cities ever found-
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When excavations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro reached the street level, they discovered skeletons scattered about the cities, many holding hands and sprawling in the streets as if some instant, horrible doom had taken place. People were just lying, unburied, in the streets of the city.

And these skeletons are thousands of years old, even by traditional archaeological standards. What could cause such a thing? Why did the bodies not decay or get eaten by wild animals? Furthermore, there is no apparent cause of a physically violent death.

These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on par with those at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal.

Other cities have been found in northern India that show indications of explosions of great magnitude. One such city, found between the Ganges and the mountains of Rajmahal, seems to have been subjected to intense heat. Huge masses of walls and foundations of the ancient city are fused together, literally vitrified! And since there is no indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro or at the other cities, the intense heat to melt clay vessels can only be explained by an atomic blast




also-
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Another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay. The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of antiquity.

No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world's only known "impact" crater in basalt. Indications of great shock (from a pressure exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat (indicated by basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site. David Hatcher Childress in Nexus Magazine
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Caucasian mummies found in South America in a deep underground tunnel 85 feet underground. They were the Chachapoyas and the incans called them "the people of the clouds" becasue they lived among the clouds in remote areas. The "Bearing Strait" land bridge theory is now down the toilet lol!.
http://www.meta-religion.com/Archaeo...ies_amazon.htm

Aaaahhhh!




South american cenotes, sinkholes, and underground tunnels
http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/02/23/trave...pes/23Cave.html
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Trim the jungle down to its roots, scrape away 10,000 years of sediment and mud, and the northern Yucatán is a billion-hole brick of porous stone, flat as a tortilla with hardly a lake in sight. Rivers are practically nonexistent. The area’s odd geology — a subterranean universe of caverns, karst tunnels and cenotes, some hundreds of feet deep — has created a landscape found at few other places on the planet.

“Cenotes are to the Yucatán Peninsula what the Alps are to Switzerland,” said Sam Meacham, director of Centro Investigador del Sistema Acuífero de Quintana Roo, or Cindaq, a nonprofit scientific and educational organization based in Playa del Carmen. “Similar features exist in other parts of the world; however, not in the abundance or natural beauty that we have here.”






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Many prehistoric creatures can even be found in these underground tunnels
http://www.mammothsite.com/Tour.html

Yeah Science basically doesn't know what it's talking about-
http://www.backyardnature.net/n/05/050102.htm
http://www.gue.com/Exploration/Cave/q3_3c.htm

Incan farming-


Modern mining


The red arrow in the picture directly above is pointing to a huge mining truck. It takes the truck over two hours to get from the bottom of the mine to the top.



John Sparkman is dwarfed as he looks into a sinkhole near Picher, Okla., Saturday, April 6, 2008. Years of lead and zinc mining has left turned the town into a superfund site with sinkholes, lead-laced mountains of rocn, and tainted water.


Modern sinkholes


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Open-pit diamond mine in Kimberley - it is the largest hole excavated by hand (although some claim it is second largest). Anyway, it is huge!


I remember seeing on a show something about the layout of the places where the pyramids were built on different continents, Egypt and mexico , being 1/100,000th of the earths suface, perhaps using earth meridians, no one knew for sure how they measured it


http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm

Clearly if we want to have a greater understanding of relgion and the history of religon, human origins, "the garden of Eden", etc., then we have to study many flood myths all around the world to find independant corroboration and correlations between stories. Obviously one of the most important relevant flood myths to study then, is the story of Atlantis

The base of the Pyramid at Teotahuacan and the Great Pyramid of Giza-, are the exact same size btw.

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Now, here is something quite shocking to science! Mexican and Central american style step-pyramids found in the Canary islands on the other side of the Atlantic, closer to Spain than to Mexico. Discovered by Dr. Heyerdahl who has done extensive research on the pyramids of Peru

http://www.ferco.org/ferco_pyramids.html
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com...s.php?id=58855
http://www.crystalinks.com/pyramidspain.html

and
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/G...Pyramid-of-Giza
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/M...ematical-Papyri





Originally the Pyramids had a nice shiny outer coating, and capstones at the top.

Even today, possibly 10s of thousands of years later, they dwarf modern Cairo buildings. The bottom layout area is larger than many many football fields. Each layer is perfectly level.


Chinese and Tibetan Pyramids.



Redating the sphinx-
http://members.aol.com/davidpb4/sphinx1.html
http://www.lyghtforce.com/Giza/


Also, Atlantis is associated with Egypt in some cases. The knowledge of the history about it is said to come from Egypt, who kept records of Atlantis' existence. The ancient Greeks thought Giza to be a wonder of the ancient world,

http://www.lyghtforce.com/Giza/
http://www.keysofenoch.org/html/giza_update.html
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"2. Tunnels & Chambers Under The Great Sphinx

(I) In a series of expeditions between 1991 and 1993 led by John Anthony West, and independent Egyptologist, scientific investigators conducted geological and seismic surveys around the Great Sphinx of Egypt. The chief geologist was Dr. Robert Schoch, Professor of Geology at Boston University, and the chief seismologist was Thomas Dobecki from the highly-respected Houston consulting firm, McBride-Ratclif & Associates.

(II) The team's conclusions were as follows:

A. Geology, The pattern of erosion on the Sphinx indicates that it was carved at the end of the last Ice Age, when heavy rains fell in the eastern Sahara - perhaps more than 12,000 years ago. This contrasts starkly with the 'orthodox' Egyptological dating for the Sphinx of around 4,500 years ago.

B. Seismography. The seismic survey indicated the existence of several unexplored tunnels and cavities in the bedrock beneath the Sphinx, including a large rectangular chamber at a depth of some 25 feet beneath the monuments front paws."
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" The idea of there being a secret chamber buried somewhere beneath the Sphinx was first popularized by renowned psychic Edgar Cayce in 1932. Cayce believed that this secret chamber contained an ancient Hall of Records, which contained, among other things, manuscripts detailing the history of mankind much further back than we are currently aware - possibly even back to the world before the Flood. He also predicted that the Hall would be discovered sometime around the year 2000.

In recent years, this prophecy may have come true. Scientists using an array of techniques, searching on and around the Sphinx, have discovered one or more large, box-shaped, hollow areas just below the Sphinx. One of these enclosures is located beneath of the paws of the Sphinx, just where Cayce had predicted the Hall of Records would be found. Bauval explains,

The Giza necropolis, it seems, has finally decided to discharge all its secrets at once. For not far from the Great Pyramid, in a shallow enclave to the East, is the Great Sphinx. It, too, may be guarding a treasure-trove under its belly: a "Hall of Records" of a civilization long lost in the mist of time. There, too, with amazing synchronicity, an entrance to such a vault has been known since 1993. Why have these "chambers" not yet been opened? What could be within them? Could the Egyptian authorities know more than they are letting on?"
http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journ...tumn/Sphinx04/
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/phoenix/h...ecordsfront.htm

From the Egyptologists themselves
http://www.towers-online.co.uk/pages/sphinx.htm
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Florida State University, on behalf of the Schor Expedition, carried out a remote sensing survey around the Sphinx and elsewhere on the plateau for three weeks in April 1996. They claimed to have found "rooms and tunnels" in front of the Sphinx and running from the rear of the Sphinx. Several other projects have made similar claims:

SRI International did an electrical resistivity and acoustical survey in 1977-78.

In 1987 a Japanese team from Waseda University (Tokyo), under the direction of Sakuji Yoshimura carried out an electromagnetic sounding survey of the Khufu Pyramid and Sphinx. They reported evidence of a tunnel oriented north-south under the Sphinx, a water pocket 2.5 to 3 m below surface near the south hind paw, and another cavity near the north hind paw.

In 1991 a team consisting of geologist Robert Schoch (Boston University), Thomas Dobecki, and John Anthony West carried out a survey of the Sphinx using seismic refraction, refraction tomography, and seismic reflection. The investigators interpreted their data to indicate shallower subsurface weathering patterns toward the back and deeper weathering toward the front, which they take to indicate that the back of the Sphinx and its ditch were carved by Khafre later than the front. They interpret their data to likewise indicate subsurface cavities in front of the front left paw, and from the left paw back along the south flank.


We cannot give permission to dig into the natural rock of the Sphinx, or to drill into the Sphinx on the basis of anomalies, especially now that our highest priority is to conserve the Sphinx. Remote sensing programs should anyway be carried out elsewhere to test the techniques, and to demonstrate that it works before it is used to make sensational claims of secret rooms in the Sphinx.

Meanwhile, we struggle in our department to save the Sphinx and many other sites and monuments for future generations. We work hard to organize the site for tourism, so all can enjoy our monuments, and we try to balance tourism with conservation. But now other priorities are far more urgent, and we cannot allow digging and drilling into the Sphinx on the off-chance that somehow we have missed the only evidence of a lost civilization!"
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it appears something fishy is going on at Giza, something is being covered up for sure


from-
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/HO-OSIRIS.html
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/Kham.html

"The previous photographs of this area, showed the sarcophagus to be surrounded by solid dirt. Non of the water is evident in Dr.. Borris Said's photographs from 1997.
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1999 as seen on live tv, all this water magically appeared there, and they claim ithey found it like that. But the previous site I linked shows there was no pillars or water there in 1997





Article on the Pyramids
http://www.sacredsites.com/africa/eg...t_pyramid.html

Pyramids had two purposes. One was for a final spiritual initiation. The long hallway up the pyramid, at one time had magnificent images along it of the stages of spiritual development and the Tarot images. The initiate would be placed in total darkness in the pyramid with a certain ointment on them, and a final enlightenment or near( or complete) death experience would be brought on.

They were also power plants. At the very top of the pyramids was placed a capstone of gold with a crystal(maybe quartz?) in it, which I think absorbed and focused rays from the sun. In the center of the pyramid would be placed a large electric capacitor. With the power of the capacitor, and the crystal at the top. Anyways, I'm not too great at explaining or understanding all the exact details. But the Pyramids allowed wireless tranmission to power lights and vehicles, or ships even at one time, without wires or fuel.

They were actually built 10,500 BC as opposed to the conventional dating of 2,500 BC. Underneath the Sphinx is Grandmaster Thoth's terrestial airship. In recent times Dr. Robert Schoch and John Anthony West discovered the rain weathering patterns on the Sphinx provides hard evidence that that type of weathering could only happen from 10,000 BC to 5000 BC. Author Graham Hancock has demonstrated that the shafts of the Great Pyramid point directly to certain stars and contellations. But it doesn't match the stars in 2,500 BC, it matches the sky in 10,500 BC.

Also, I think I remember reading that there isn't even supposed to be granite in those parts of the sea near Cuba, Florida or Mexico. On a Graham Hancock show I remember him interviewing an old man who remembered tons of granite being excavated and taken from the bimini road area in like the 30s or 40s.

On each corner of the the bimini blocks, are very manmade looking sort of small pillars or legs, holding the blocks 6 inches or a foot above the ground.
http://edgarcayce.org/am/androspressrelea.html
http://edgarcayce.org/am/biminiexpedition.html

Site tht talks about the A.R.E's ( association for research and enlightenment)
search for one of the "hall of records".
http://www.mysterious-america.net/hallofrecords.html


This chapter talks about ancient technology that was used in pyramids-
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/19.htm


http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/science/sto...1481117,00.html
http://www.hfml.ru.nl/levitate.html
http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2005/06/04.html
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/.../05.html#recap
http://www.tiller.org/


http://paranormal.about.com/library/.../aa031901a.htm
http://paranormal.about.com/library/.../aa031901b.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/levitationtibet.html
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Tibetan Secrets of Levitation

In his book The Bridge to Infinity, Bruce Cathie recounts an amazing story that he says originated in a German magazine. It tells the story of astonishing feats of levitation accomplished by priests in a monastery high in the Tibetan Himalayas. Here, in English translation, are excepts from that German article:

A Swedish doctor, Dr. Jarl... studied at Oxford. During those times he became friends with a young Tibetan student. A couple of years later, it was 1939, Dr. Jarl made a journey to Egypt for the English Scientific Society. There he was seen by a messenger of his Tibetan friend, and urgently requested to come to Tibet to treat a high Lama. After Dr. Jarl got the leave he followed the messenger and arrived after a long journey by plane and Yak caravans, at the monastery, where the old Lama and his friend who was now holding a high position were now living.

One day his friend took him to a place in the neighborhood of the monastery and showed him a sloping meadow which was surrounded in the north west by high cliffs. In one of the rock walls, at a height of about 250 metres was a big hole which looked like the entrance to a cave. In front of this hole there was a platform on which the monks were building a rock wall. The only access to this platform was from the top of the cliff and the monks lowered themselves down with the help of ropes.

In the middle of the meadow. about 250 metres from the cliff, was a polished slab of rock with a bowl like cavity in the center. The bowl had a diameter of one metre and a depth of 15 centimeters. A block of stone was maneuvered into this cavity by Yak oxen. The block was one metre wide and one and one-half metres long. Then 19 musical instruments were set in an arc of 90 degrees at a distance of 63 metres from the stone slab. The radius of 63 metres was measured out accurately. The musical instruments consisted of 13 drums and six trumpets. (Ragdons).

Behind each instrument was a row of monks. When the stone was in position the monk behind the small drum gave a signal to start the concert. The small drum had a very sharp sound, and could be heard even with the other instruments making a terrible din. All the monks were singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo of this unbelievable noise. During the first four minutes nothing happened, then as the speed of the drumming, and the noise increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway, and suddenly it took off into the air with an increasing speed in the direction of the platform in front of the cave hole 250 metres high. After three minutes of ascent it landed on the platform.

Continuously they brought new blocks to the meadow, and the monks using this method, transported 5 to 6 blocks per hour on a parabolic flight track approximately 500 metres long and 250 metres high. From time to time a stone split, and the monks moved the split stones away. Quite an unbelievable task. Dr Jarl knew about the hurling of the stones. Tibetan experts like Linaver, Spalding and Huc had spoken about it, but they had never seen it. So Dr Jarl was the first foreigner who had the opportunity to see this remarkable spectacle. Because he had the opinion in the beginning that he was the victim of mass-psychosis he made two films of the incident. The films showed exactly the same things that he had witnessed.

The English Society for which Dr Jarl was working confiscated the two films and declared them classified.

Sounds like they're going back in September and October this year to examine the underwater Megaliths near the coast of Cuba. This time will be a joint project, with National Geographic involved.

"New National Geographic/Zelitsky Expedition to Cuba "Underwater City" Site Planned"
http://www.s8int.com/water27.html

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"A clear explanation does not exist of how these structures formed by natural means. Offered this point of view as geologist, I admit the possibility that it could be a question of not natural, that is to say structures, created by man, or some intelligent entity." - Manuel Iturralde of the National Museum of Natural History of the Havana, considered to be the foremost geologist of Cuba."
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Zelitsky's theory is that a peninsula once stretched from the Yucatan to Cuba, which collapsed due to seismic activity. This reinforces the theory that early man did not arrive in the Americas by crossing the Bering Straits (a land bridge from Russia which no longer exists) but instead arrived from Asia via the Pacific Ocean. British archeologists have found human footprints in Puebla, Mexico that are 40,000 years old. On her early expeditions, Zelitsky discovered an underwater city with not only pyramids, but geometrically precise passages, tunnels and temples, many carved with ancient symbols. Since natural structures can be pyramid-shaped and have straight lines as well, these carvings are especially important. There is still controversy about whether the underwater pyramid off the coast of an island in Japan was manmade or is a natural formation.
Also-
http://www.timstouse.com/EarthHistor...tis/bimini.htm

underwater finds off of gibralter-
http://www.arqueotour.com/atlantis/texts/n...-gibraltar2.htm
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Great stuff killik...I'm highly aroused at the moment and looking forward to viewing all this.
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Yes I also come more & more to the conclusion that what we have now we had long time ago already.

Now we have come around the whole circle & we are facing the same destruction again which they staged before.

The nuclear reminds they have found everywhere point's directly to this fact.

So we believe the Elite is all so smart but all they do is working to plans which either have been found by some. Or have been preserved for millions of years. But how could this be possible that some people survived the disaster may lived under ground for generations then started the entire game again.

Maybe now it's just a photocopy of what happened already before.
Would make total sense in a way. All the Alien shit is just a deception so we look up into the sky but in reality it's all here right on earth beneath our feet's.
Now the same Elite has to make the same choice; give up tell the truth release there secrets or nuke the entire Earth again.

If the informations are correct they have created the underground city's already. Or who knows maybe they are the same city's they have occupied before & they only stocked them up for there next master blaster operation.

So if this is fact then we know what's on the way if we can not stop there process.
These could have been repeated many times before not only once.

This would explain so much & all other things would make sense.
But what a job to keep all this secret.
What do we really know the entire sky we see could be a holographic projection.

But if there is a underground city where is the access North poll is this why they start the melting process to open there gateway.

Crazy stuff I must be going tropo!

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There is simply no fit. They don't even fit together. Look at the ends of africa and south america, they don't fit!

This could be a good addition to you're nice thread! May gives you a alternate viewpoint!

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Looks promising, I'll take my time to read it all.
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What about Antartica?

The purpose of that image was to show that the continental "fit" claimed by believers of plate tectonics doesn't actually fit and doesn't work.

However.....since you asked about it......

Ancient maps
http://www.sacred-texts.com/piri/index.htm


Before antarctica was supposed to have been known by humans, a map drawn showing Atlantis in the exact shape of antarctica but located in the atlantic ocean-
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A map that has Africa and America on the wrong sides for me is not to be taken seriously. Given that perhaps Antarctica is known from Chinese and Tibetan source maps, I think that were based off earlier source maps, there's a chunk of cartography missing. However, those source maps in China and Tibet do not indicate the existence of Mu, Atlantis, or Rama.
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Why would it matter whether the north or south pole is at the top of a map as long as it is accurate?
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