Obama continues to weaponize space as Bush did.

[lordreptoid]

From my exopolitics associate, Alfred Webre. PEACE IN SPACE!

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SPACE PRESERVATION NOTE: Biden Says U.S. Will Pursue Missile Plan Russia Opposes

SPACE PRESERVATION NOTE: U.S. Missile Defense is the trojan horse of the weaponization of space. It is a $trillion-dollar weapons system to continue the research & development for space-based weapons, and the defense contract mandate for the weaponization of space. The Obama administration has now formally committed to continue the space weaponization strategy first undertaken by the GW Bush administration when it unilaterally announced the cancellation of the ABM Treaty on Dec. 13, 2002, in order to pursue U.S. Missile Defense, and hence the long-term weaponization of space. The Obama's so-called plan to ban space-weapons is hereby unmasked as a 2008 U.S. Presidential campaign propaganda ploy, or at best a disingenuous political tactic by the Obama administration.

For an authentic strategy which will result in the ban of all space-based weapons, including space-based weapons of mass-destruction, please support the Space Preservation Treaty. Text and supporting research articles and expert media interviews at:

http://www.peaceinspace.org

Thank you.
Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd
Institute for Cooperation in Space (ICIS)
Vancouver, B.C.

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The New York Times

February 7, 2009

Biden Says U.S. Will Pursue Missile Plan Russia Opposes
By HELENE COOPER and NICHOLAS KULISH

MUNICH — The United States will pursue a missile defense plan that has angered the Kremlin, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said Saturday, in a signal that the post-cold-war tensions that have flared recently between Washington and Moscow could continue into the new Obama administration.

But Mr. Biden did not say whether the administration would move forward with a plan to place the system in Eastern Europe, which had been the core of recent tensions. He also offered conciliatory words, saying, "It is time to press the reset button, and to revisit the many areas where we can and should be working together with Russia."

The highly anticipated speech, seen as the first major outline of the new administration's relations with the world, came just days after Kyrgyzstan's president announced a decision to close a United States base there that is crucial to the war in Afghanistan, which Mr. Obama has made his biggest foreign policy priority. The announcement was made in Moscow, and many American officials concluded that the Russians had pressured Kyrgyzstan as part of their campaign to reassert control over former Soviet republics.

It was unclear on Saturday if Mr. Biden's statements on missile defense were meant to suggest that the Obama administration had decided to continue some of the Bush administration's tougher stands on Russia or were part of a bargaining strategy. Russian cooperation is considered important to American attempts to stop both Iran and North Korea from continuing with their nuclear programs.

In recent weeks, Russia's leaders have also sent mixed messages: offering kind words about President Obama, then suggesting that the United States would need to do more to win Russia's support — including addressing complaints about American plans to expand NATO and ending plans for the missile defense system that the Bush administration had been pursuing.

President Bush had said that the system, which would include sites in Eastern Europe, was needed to defend against countries like Iran, but Russia has always seen it as a way of countering its own arsenal.

Mr. Biden also rejected the notion of a Russian sphere of influence and said that Mr. Obama would continue to press NATO to seek "deeper cooperation" with like-minded countries. "We will continue to develop missile defenses to counter a growing Iranian capability, provided the technology is proven and it is cost-effective," Mr. Biden said.

His wording virtually echoed the stance on missile defense that Mr. Obama took during the presidential campaign, but was notable because Mr. Biden did not announce a strategic review of the issue, which administration officials had considered as a way to defuse tensions between Washington and Moscow.

Although his language was tempered, Mr. Biden also said, "We will not agree with Russia on everything."

"For example, the United States will not recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent states. We will not — will not — recognize any nation having a sphere of influence. It will remain our view that sovereign states have the right to make their own decisions and choose their own alliances."

Mr. Biden's speech came a day after Deputy Prime Minister Sergei B. Ivanov told the same group that Moscow would not deploy its own missiles on the Polish border if the United States reviewed its missile defense plan.

But any chance for a rapprochement between the United States and Russia at this conference all but evaporated, foreign policy experts said, after the announcement on the Kyrgyz base. Mr. Obama plans to send as many as 30,000 additional troops to Afghanistan over the next two years; shaky overland supply routes through Pakistan would make it difficult for the United States to adjust to the loss of the base, in Manas, Kyrgyzstan.

Mr. Biden also talked about Iran, suggesting that the administration was both willing to be more conciliatory than Mr. Bush's, but also was willing to continue his tough policies if necessary. "We are willing to talk to Iran," Mr. Biden said, in a departure from the Bush administration. But Mr. Biden quickly tacked back to a refrain common during the last years of the Bush presidency, and spoke of offering Iran's leader a choice: "Continue down your current course and there will be pressure and isolation; abandon the illicit nuclear program and your support for terrorism and there will be meaningful incentives."

In an interview at the conference, Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the international affairs committee in the Russian Parliament, said he welcomed Mr. Biden's comments about "a need to listen to partners," as opposed to President Bush's approach "that everything is already predecided, everything is clear and should be done the way the American administration thinks about it," which would make it easier to reach agreement on many issues "including the antimissile dispute."

Mr. Biden's speech was the highlight of a security conference that attracted a host of global leaders and diplomats, most of whom seemed primed to hear how the United States and its new leadership viewed the world. They erupted into applause when Mr. Biden walked onto the stage.

But for all the talk of a new era in relations between the United States and the world, old sores remained, and with no sign of healing soon. "Let's be frank about it, there's more and more distrust between the European Union and Russia," President Nicolas Sarkozy of France said.

It was at this security conference two years ago when the new tension between the United States and Russia leapt to the fore when Vladimir V. Putin, then Russia's president, lashed out against the United States over its use of force. On Saturday, Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany struck a conciliatory note. "It is in our interest to incorporate Russia in this new security architecture," she said.

On Friday, Ali Larijani, the speaker of Iran's Parliament, said that Mr. Obama's decision to send George J. Mitchell, his new envoy, to the Middle East to listen and not to dictate was "a positive signal," but also said that, in terms of Iran, "the old carrot and stick cliché"— the very strategy that Mr. Biden outlined— "must be discarded." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/wa...gewanted=print

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[knightbk]

Very interesting, but it tells us a lot of stuff.

1. The US's spaced based weapons are essentially about maintaining their global hegemony. When a complete "strike" force is space based, they will be able to destroy enemies around the world in seconds. Armies will no longer be required and nobody will be able to fight back.

2. The fact they publicly state they are going to continue with it also tells you about the confidence they have in their economy coming back. It would be dropped otherwise with all sorts of "excusess" to save face. No doubt Obama's "it will be a catastrophe" remark is all about pushing the socialization agenda, which will allow for greater control of the country.

The economy in the US will recover, but at a lower living standard. On top of that a new series of terrorist attacks will further erode civil rights.

3. The stupid shit fantasy people put out about Nibiru and 2012 and what not is crap. If the US had some special insite, they wouldn't be wasting money on a space based military system and everything else they are worried about.



The bottom line is this:
The US wants to control the world to its advantage and they do this by using every available tool at their disposal. As we progress through time, they will be more and more required to control their people in order to do so, so "freedom" in America will become less and less. Ultimately, I bet they are something like China with a command economy, oppression and content filters.

[lordreptoid]

The stupid shit fantasy people put out about Nibiru and 2012 and what not is crap.

I disagree and have plenty of evidence to the contrary. This is not the thread for me to post it in however. Also "fantasy people" is not the way I'd describe the Mayan race and culture nor David Wilcock or Richard C Hoagland, or David Icke for that matter. I'm sure most others, silent or not, agree.

The rest I agree with for the most part... although I do NOT support any of it. Making a difference is a personal choice to each their own. I am always making a difference every moment of every day.

[knightbk]

Originally Posted by lordreptoid

I disagree and have plenty of evidence to the contrary. This is not the thread for me to post it in however. Also "fantasy people" is not the way I'd describe the Mayan race and culture nor David Wilcock or Richard C Hoagland, or David Icke for that matter. I'm sure most others, silent or not, agree.

Provided your evidence doesn't start and end on YouTube, can PM me your so called evidence. Call me a "skeptic". Convince me.

[marpat]

Anybody suprised though? space is going to be the next front in any war due to all the satellites up there that nations depend upon. Not only this but IBM's fly through space to their targets.

[knightbk]

Originally Posted by marpat

Anybody suprised though? space is going to be the next front in any war due to all the satellites up there that nations depend upon. Not only this but IBM's fly through space to their targets.

Nuclear war doesn't worry me much, but I agree, they will weaponize space.

[lordreptoid]

Provided your evidence doesn't start and end on YouTube, can PM me your so called evidence. Call me a "skeptic". Convince me.

Search those names for yourself, you'll read about the hyperdimensional quantum model evidence unfolding around us all the time. Best: Wilcock, Hoagland (maybe Icke who shows us other people's ideas anyway). Find their websites and start reading.

"You tube" is for the "me generation" (me, myself and I). Not useful at all. See my other posts and history about who I am and where I've been working.

I must go - I am leaving this thread open for others to say whatever they want. If in doubt CALL ALFRED WEBRE for yourselves. Tell him where you read this report and who "sent you" (Purple Crow). BE NICE! He's a BUSY man.

Good luck.

[miranda]

Look at all the science fiction (future fact?) films/series about space. Usually to do with one federation controlling everything, including the colonised planets.

On today's facts - absolutely. Control the space, control the satellites, control the populace. Urgh! Definitely can now see possibility of strikes from space happening ....

[whiterain]

of course it continues. the US has nothing else. people keep saying that the dollar and the pound are not backed by anything. well heres your backing

[sabre1]

Just weaponizing space for attacking places on Earth? I believe they have done more than what most people know.

I believe that they are on the moon and mars too.

[comawhite015]

wooo

dey gon shoot up some aayyleiiins

wooo!

[onourwayto2012]

Originally Posted by comawhite015

wooo

dey gon shoot up some aayyleiiins

wooo!

smartypants!

[tiamet2012]

You got that right and the crafts that we do have can do this and there are bases out there too long story but it runs deep in my story theres so much we dont know and are kept away from cause we are poor long story....

[tiamet2012]

I will say this america rules the world now and nothing anyone can do nobody until all hell breaks loose.........

we have crafts that can do alot and wipe out countrys and england is one of the followers etc long story

so buckle up for a ride cause america has the power now and if we loose a few to them ooooh wellll its all paper work and talk nothing u or anyone can change or do its out of our reach for now that is..............

You think stenphenville texas is nuts go look at what they seen and wake up cause we are broke but there is going to be a war one way to rule and get out of dept huh wow.....research it..............we rule

[rhydra]

A little less than a hundred years ago battles were fought on land and sea, the surface of the earth. Once man took to the skies in heavier than air war steeds, his warlike ways could only go further up, space is just that progression upwards. It's a sad inevitability that whatever new technology is developed, man will always find a way to use it to destroy his fellow man.

[lothia]

Obama do the same of Bush?
They always strive to be a good army? I dont like the idea of a war, and on the space worse... Why in the space anyway?
They belicism is awful. :S

[lordreptoid]

To answer "why humans create space-based weapons" (It's not as obvious as it first appears) I'd have to have you research HAARP, MK-Ultra (etc), and then read Alfred Webre's book on exopolitics for starters, then we could talk about this at length. In short: They named this battle "Star Wars" for a reason deeper than most ever know. Obama has brought UFO disclosure (thanks to our efforts to pressure him to make a public statement about same through "the million fax on Washington" and other efforts) to the front of his mission along with other efforts and still, "shockingly", wants space-based weapons up there ready to fire any direction they wish. There's several possibilities for this, some good, some "bad". Until I have any evidence, solid trusted sources on this thread, I'm open as to "why" he chooses this apparent contradiction against UFO disclosure that "they've been here all along and we're using their technology". He can't do both without losing grace. His term may be shorter than most are prepared to accept (IE: What my assorted psychics have seen about 2 years max for him, sadly - Small steps get nowhere, and big ones are shot down, one way or the other - This pattern makes me greatly dislike this world in many ways - Time is UP.)

EDIT: Not for lack of evidence either way at all, I know too much on this subject, but I'm not "deciding" which one of a few paths is "correct" yet.

[lothia]

I want read the Alfred Webre's book. I guess I not very aware of these things.

[lordreptoid]

Follow-up:

http://peaceinspace.blogs.com/peacei...ssile-def.html

Debate on U.S. Missile Defense: Frank Gaffney (CSP) vs Alfred Webre (ICIS) - Bush & Obama positions missile defense are identical and will lead to space weaponization

VANCOUVER, B.C. - U.S. Vice President Joe Biden has announced in a major speech at the Munich Security Conference that the Obama administration will continue with the development of the U.S. Missile Defense system, a system re-initiated by the G.W. Bush administration when it unilaterally announced abrogation of the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty on Dec. 13, 2001, in the aftermath of the Bush administration false flag operation of September 11, 2001. U.S. missile defense is a $trillion-dollar weapons system to continue the research & development for space-based weapons, and the defense contract mandate for the weaponization of space, and is the strategic long term-plan for space weaponization.

Despite its 2008 campaign promises to seek a ban on the weaponization of space, the Obama administration has now adopted the long-term plan of the Bush administration for promoting the weaponization of space - U.S. missile defense.

Atlanta Life Magazine recently sponsored a public debate on "The New Star Wars" between Frank Gaffney, founder and president of the Center for Security Policy in Washington, D.C., and Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd, International Director of the Institute for Cooperation in Space (ICIS) in Vancouver, B.C.

Please take a few moments out of your busy day to read this important debate between two radically different points of view about space weaponization.

The most startling conclusion you will come away with is that U.S. missile defense - the space weaponization plan of the Bush administration - is identical under the Obama administration. No change under Obama for now.

The New Star Wars: Experts debate the U.S. missile defense system (Atlanta Life Magazine)

Frank Gaffney versus Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

Please download Parts I - IV of the Gaffney-Webre debate on The New (Obama) Star Wars (PDF):


Part I: Gaffney-Webre debate on The New (Obama) Star Wars (PDF)

Download New Star Wars Debate - Part I


Part II: Gaffney-Webre debate on The New (Obama) Star Wars (PDF)

Download New Star Wars Debate - Part II


Part III: Gaffney-Webre debate on The New (Obama) Star Wars (PDF)

Download New Star Wars Debate - Part III


Part IV: Gaffney-Webre debate on The New (Obama) Star Wars (PDF)

Download New Star Wars Debate Part IV

[bowtiedaddy]

Originally Posted by lordreptoid

I disagree and have plenty of evidence to the contrary. This is not the thread for me to post it in however. Also "fantasy people" is not the way I'd describe the Mayan race and culture nor David Wilcock or Richard C Hoagland, or David Icke for that matter. I'm sure most others, silent or not, agree.

The rest I agree with for the most part... although I do NOT support any of it. Making a difference is a personal choice to each their own. I am always making a difference every moment of every day.

1012 and that hidden hand crap is just PROPAGANDA. Kind of like Zeitgeist.