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Murder and Genocide ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH religion, the murder of a Jew is a capital offense and one of the three most heinous sins (the other two being idolatry and adultery). Jewish religious courts and secular authorities are commanded to punish, even beyond the limits of the ordinary administration of justice, anyone guilty of murdering a Jew. A Jew who indirectly causes the death of another Jew is, however, only guilty of what talmudic law calls a sin against the 'laws of Heaven', to be punished by God rather than by man. When the victim is a Gentile, the position is quite different. A Jew who murders a Gentile is guilty only of a sin against the laws of Heaven, not punishable by a court. To cause indirectly the death of a Gentile is no sin at all. Thus, one of the two most important commentators on the Shulhan Arukh explains that when it comes to a Gentile, 'one must not lift one's hand to harm him, but one may harm him indirectly, for instance by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice .., there is no prohibition here, because it was not done directly: He points out, however, that an act leading indirectly to a Gentile's death is forbidden if it may cause the spread of hostility towards Jews. A Gentile murderer who happens to be under Jewish jurisdiction must be executed whether the victim was Jewish or not. However, if the victim was Gentile and the murderer converts to Judaism, he is not punished. All this has a direct and practical relevance to the realities of the State of Israel. Although the state's criminal laws make no distinction between Jew and Gentile, such distinction is certainly made by Orthodox rabbis, who in guiding their flock follow the Halakhah. Of special importance is the advice they give to religious soldiers. Since even the minimal interdiction against murdering a Gentile outright applies only to 'Gentiles with whom we [the Jews] are not at war', various rabbinical commentators in the past drew the logical conclusion that in wartime all Gentiles belonging to a hostile population may, or even should be killed. Since 1973 this doctrine is being publicly propagated for the guidance of religious Israeli soldiers. The first such official exhortation was included in a booklet published by the Central Region Command of the Israeli Army, whose area includes the West Bank. In this booklet the Command's Chief Chaplain writes: When our forces come across civilians during a war or in hot pursuit or in a raid, so long as there is no certainty that those civilians are incapable of harming our forces, then according to the Halakhah they may and even should be killed... Under no circumstances should an Arab be trusted, even if he makes an impression of being civilized ... In war, when our forces storm the enemy, they are allowed and even enjoined by the Halakhah to kill even good civilians, that is, civilians who are ostensibly good. http://radioislam.org/historia/shahak/english.htm Last edited by runciter; 24-07-2009 at 01:01 PM. |
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Yes, although I would say more... shows how humanity has died...
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Its hate all right, though that hate has been expressed through most religions through time... and today... not just Islam.
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Yes it can be viewed this way in some texts...
As it is relevant in all religions.. and their holy wars and predictions, with reasons to hold on to their god. Quote:
and it is a fault in humanity...
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i don't think there's a fault in humanity itself, we're only using badly our freedom. |
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I am truly sorry for the hell that these poor people are being put through by the zionists.
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Religion is a fault in humanity, because the very need for it = a detachment from "god" in the first place... this is simply the truth... not going to argue you about it..
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Quite shocking...
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an amazing thread that deserves to be linked here:
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I realy truely hate the world we are evil and stuck up, i am embarised to be alive......
If you where an Alien would you come down and help this planet....I wouldn't |
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where everyone gets it wrong is in saying that the Zionists of Israel are repeating in Palestine what was done to them in Germany.
Bullshit. The Nazis were Jewish. The Zionists of Israel are repeating in Palestine what they did to the 'false jews', catholics, and their political enemies in Germany. The Zionists funded Hitler in order to force the repatriation of the middle East by European Jews. The Zionist banking elite also arranged for the Jewish refugees of Europe to be denied asylum everywhere in the world so that they would be forced to go to Israel and help form the new Zionist state. Without Hitler , the Zionists never would have been able to populate Israel, because hundreds of thousands of Jews never would have voluntarily left Europe to fight a war against Islam for the expansion of Israel. |
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great thread
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