Can we have our Brith Certificates stricken?

[pduffy4]

Can we have our Brith Certificates stricken from the public record?

[tom bombadil]

I suppose it only matters if one revokes its intention.



This is a bump of sorts cos I dont know for sure.

[boots]

Sorry No you can't. The government's got it and will use it.

But you revoke the name on it. It's a strawman and your not it.


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[pleasuredome]

Originally Posted by pduffy4

Can we have our Brith Certificates stricken from the public record?

who says it's yours anyway?

[hagbard_celine]

You can destroy your copy.

I've lost mine, but if I ever find it I'll burn it. I've already done that to my passport.

what about driving licenses. I've lost mine (lieterally mislaid! I didn't get done for drink-driving or anything!), but is it still stored at the DVLA.

[dondaz]

what about driving licenses. I've lost mine (lieterally mislaid! I didn't get done for drink-driving or anything!), but is it still stored at the DVLA.

Most definately. I got a provisional license in 1983, lost it in 1984, finally got a replacement 1995 but lost it that same year and never tried to get one again.

Never took a driving test or ever applied for a full license and have been driving without their permission ever since. But I'm sure they will try to use the 'provisional contract' against me one day, not that they will ever convince me to 'apply' for their permission to do something that is completely lawful.

I have been done for driving without a licence quite a few times in the past and been banned for not having one, then sent to prison on remand for 3 months and when I went to court I got community service for not keeping to their ban in 1992.

They won't be getting me to ever contract with them again, that's for sure!

[the worm that turned]

Originally Posted by dondaz

Most definately. I got a provisional license in 1983, lost it in 1984, got a replacement 1995 lost it that same year and never tried to get one again. Never took a driving test or ever applied for a full license and have been driving without their permission ever since. But I'm sure they will try to use the 'provisional contract' against me one day, not that they will ever convince me to 'apply' for their permission to do something that is completely lawful.

I have been done for driving without a licence quite a few times in the past and been banned for not having one, then sent to prison for not keeping to their ban in 1992. They won't be getting me to ever contract with them again, that's for sure!

You Rock! So if you don't mind divulging, do you bother with insurance, tax and MOT?

[dondaz]

You Rock! So if you don't mind divulging, do you bother with insurance, tax and MOT?

I've always had MOT on my cars, for my own peace of mind that the car is safe. Insurance, never had any. Never crashed into anyone or anything, though I've had people crash into me a couple of times.

My missus is 'legal' in the car we have right now, MOT, insurance and tax, but I drive it here and there without being 'legal', which is completely lawful. I have had the police behind me many times in the past 6 months & they've not pulled me yet. They know the car is insured for just a female so I think they are apprehensive of pulling me because of what I do with filming and exposing their scams.

I think they have been told to give me a wide birth, but I am expecting them to try it on soon and pull me over to try their statute scams in the hope of getting one over on me for exposing them in my vids. I am ready for them and will tell all the police about the system of control they are supporting, as will be revealed in my film, and they don't like us waking their drones up with the truth!

[pleasuredome]

Originally Posted by dondaz

I've always had MOT on my cars, for my own peace of mind that the car is safe. Insurance, never had any. Never crashed into anyone or anything, though I've had people crash into me a couple of times.

My missus is 'legal' in the car we have right now, MOT, insurance and tax, but I drive it here and there without being 'legal', which is completely lawful. I have had the police behind me many times in the past 6 months & they've not pulled me yet. They know the car is insured for just a female so I think they are apprehensive of pulling me because of what I do with filming and exposing their scams.

I think they have been told to give me a wide birth, but I am expecting them to try it on soon and pull me over to try their statute scams in the hope of getting one over on me for exposing them in my vids. I am ready for them and will tell all the police about the system of control they are supporting, as will be revealed in my film, and they don't like us waking their drones up with the truth!

cool. seem you've rearmed yourself with all this freeman info now, so if they were hesitant before, they going to be even more hesitant now lol.

just out of interest, how did you go about claiming against the other parties insurance for the damage done to your car in the accidents?

[dondaz]

just out of interest, how did you go about claiming against the other parties insurance for the damage done to your car in the accidents?

They've been just minor bumper/back light smashes, So never bothered trying to claim. In 2001 I had a drunk driver crash into me. I pulled out into a one way section of road and this car came bombing down the wrong way and writ both cars off. I was ok and so was he. He was totally off his head with drink, walking up and down the road ranting to himself. This was 11.30 at night. I thought it wise at the time to get out of there before the old bill came along, not knowing what I know now! My car was still drivable so I drove the couple of miles home doing 10mph. The car was only worth a couple hundred quid so I just brought another one and the scrapman had the old one.

Sorted. Just don't buy a flashy car folks and you won't lose out so much. I would think, under those circumstances and with what I know now, the other parties insurance should still pay out because their driver was at fault, clearly. Obviously you would have to deal with the insurance company yourself and obviously they would try to not pay out unless they had your insurance details, which is irrelevent when you think about it!

[pleasuredome]

Originally Posted by dondaz

They've been just minor bumper/back light smashes, So never bothered trying to claim. In 2001 I had a drunk driver crash into me. I pulled out into a one way section of road and this car came bombing down the wrong way and writ both cars off. I was ok and so was he. He was totally off his head with drink, walking up and down the road ranting to himself. This was 11.30 at night. I thought it wise at the time to get out of there before the old bill came along, not knowing what I know now! My car was still drivable so I drove the couple of miles home doing 10mph. The car was only worth a couple hundred quid so I just brought another one and the scrapman had the old one.

Sorted. Just don't buy a flashy car folks and you won't lose out so much. I would think, under those circumstances and with what I know now, the other parties insurance should still pay out because their driver was at fault, clearly. Obviously you would have to deal with the insurance company yourself and obviously they would try to not pay out unless they had your insurance details, which is irrelevent when you think about it!

i was thinking that if you dont have insurance you could purchase legal expenses cover, it think its about £15-£20 a year, and if you have an accident you can get them to do the work for you. i had to use it even when i was insured third party when i had an accident, cos my insurer didnt want to know because i wasnt insured fully comprehensive. although, saying that you can get a firm of solicitors to take on a case even if you dont have legal expenses cover, if it seems that the accident wasnt your fault.

[tien an]

Originally Posted by dondaz

I would think, under those circumstances and with what I know now, the other parties insurance should still pay out because their driver was at fault, clearly. Obviously you would have to deal with the insurance company yourself and obviously they would try to not pay out unless they had your insurance details, which is irrelevent when you think about it!

I tend to agree with you...but:

Do you have control of your bond, the liquidation of which should insure you against any mishaps in life?

Perhaps the insurance co. can't deal with you because they need to deal with other lawyers?

The driving licence / birth ceritificate relationship is valid here.

According to what I've gleaned from Winston Shrout and other sources, control of the bond issued on your birth certificate is key to the issue. Liquidation (or the threat thereof) of this bond would give anyone (or company) enough money to defend themselves in court and pay any compensation if necessary...many, many times over.
How one gains control of this bond is something that eludes me at the moment (I'm still trying), but once 'armed' with that I would certainly back Dondaz's position.
I've read elsewhere of small companies that have been set up to insure car owners where one single payment of say, £1,000 is made and the pooled money used to compensate unfortunate accident victims (as well as being prudently invested to earn a little more money).
This, it seems, is a pretty reasonable sounding idea. Does anyone know if it could work in the UK?
Why be licenced for an otherwise lawful activity anyway?
In reality it's confirmation that you've taken lessons and can drive to a certain standard, nothing more.
It says nothing of the improvement (or lack of it) that you've made in the last fifteen years...or fifteen months.

[dondaz]

I've read elsewhere of small companies that have been set up to insure car owners where one single payment of say, £1,000 is made and the pooled money used to compensate unfortunate accident victims (as well as being prudently invested to earn a little more money).
This, it seems, is a pretty reasonable sounding idea. Does anyone know if it could work in the UK?
Why be licenced for an otherwise lawful activity anyway?

This is what Robs Very Cunning Plan and the world freeman society is all about mate. Join the British Isles chapter, sign up here: http://www.worldfreemansociety.org and lets get this off the ground over here.

[pduffy4]

Thanks for all your comments.

The fact is I believe that the birth certificate is illegal because the baby has not signed it and knows nothing about it until many years later. No one has the right to sign someone else into a contract against their knowledge and best interest.

My problem is I don't have a job and am on benefit. I do want a job but I can get one due to very complicated reasons based on my reputation being ruined through being slandered/defamed six years ago. It has caused me very serious problems, too many to mention.

[pduffy4]

Originally Posted by pleasuredome

who says it's yours anyway?

You are right. I was born a long time ago now, how am I to remember who I am?

[hagbard_celine]

Originally Posted by dondaz

Most definately. I got a provisional license in 1983, lost it in 1984, finally got a replacement 1995 but lost it that same year and never tried to get one again.

Never took a driving test or ever applied for a full license and have been driving without their permission ever since. But I'm sure they will try to use the 'provisional contract' against me one day, not that they will ever convince me to 'apply' for their permission to do something that is completely lawful.

I have been done for driving without a licence quite a few times in the past and been banned for not having one, then sent to prison on remand for 3 months and when I went to court I got community service for not keeping to their ban in 1992.

They won't be getting me to ever contract with them again, that's for sure!

The law doesn't half get its knickers in a knot over trivial matters. I know may qualified drivers who are complete roadhogs! Most learner-drivers are especially careful and cause very few accidents.

It's odd how they can lock you up for stupid little things, like attempted bigamy or possessing a fake passport (or for no reason at all under the new anti-terrorist laws!).

Dondaz, you've had a lot of grief from the police even for doing them favours: turning them into movie stars!

[lord of the pings]

Originally Posted by hagbard_celine

The law doesn't half get its knickers in a knot over trivial matters. I know may qualified drivers who are complete roadhogs! Most learner-drivers are especially careful and cause very few accidents.

I don't consider driving with out a licence and therefore insurance to be trivial at all. I was hit last year by a twat with no licence/insurance it cost me £250 excess and he got a caution and a small fine.


It boils down to a selfish disregard for those around you.

Hows donaz going to pay for the cars he wreaks or people he injures? He ain't someone else has to.

[queenofleon]

Originally Posted by pduffy4

Can we have our Brith Certificates stricken from the public record?

I have been pondering over something similiar, What would happen if I refused to register my child? Other than being unable to get ID and travel thats the only pit falls I can see?

anyone else?

[hagbard_celine]

Originally Posted by lord of the pings

I don't consider driving with out a licence and therefore insurance to be trivial at all. I was hit last year by a twat with no licence/insurance it cost me £250 excess and he got a caution and a small fine.


It boils down to a selfish disregard for those around you.

Hows donaz going to pay for the cars he wreaks or people he injures? He ain't someone else has to.

You've missed the point. I was saying that some offences are punished out of proportion to others. Driving while disqualified sometimes carries a harsher sentance than driving with a full license drunk. This is what I question, not how serious damamge or injury is treared.

[lord of the pings]

I don't think i missed the point at all. You said

The law doesn't half get its knickers in a knot over trivial matters. I know may qualified drivers who are complete roadhogs! Most learner-drivers are especially careful and cause very few accidents.

While the subject was driving without a licence and insurance.


Either way anyone who drives uninsured with no licence is a twat.