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Old 14-01-2009, 07:48 PM   #1
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Any suggestions for arguments/ways of getting around TV Licence besides not having Tv. Mine s due a renewal soon. Also do you need a TV licence if you just have a TV for dvd s and dont watch TV.

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Old 14-01-2009, 08:30 PM   #2
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Any suggestions for arguments/ways of getting around TV Licence besides not having Tv. Mine s due a renewal soon. Also do you need a TV licence if you just have a TV for dvd s and dont watch TV.

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If you have a tv, you need a license even if you dont watch it. My policy is this I ignore their threatening and intimidating letters. On the 2 occassions i have had them at my door I didnt let them in to see if I had a telly, they said they could get a warrant, I said go do that, there is a police station round the corner I will ring them and let them know you are coming. They havent done so.

I have been doing this for 10 years, stand up to them dont let them intimidate you. It is another tax on the poor.

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Old 14-01-2009, 08:32 PM   #3
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http://www.tpuc.org/stoppayingtvlicencefees


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Sir Michael Lyons
The Chairman, By 1st Class Post
BBC, Recorded Delivery.
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201 Wood lane,
London
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Dear Sir Michael Lyons

Re: The Royal Charter of the BBC, & the Treason & Felony Act, 1848
Notice Before Action.

It has been brought to my attention that the Corporation has received and is now receiving substantial amounts of funding from the European Union, in breach of Charter Provisions, and that in consequence of this very suspect arrangement the BBC is now reduced to the function of providing both broadcasting & propaganda facilities to a form of alien authority that fails to acknowledge the Supreme Authority of the British Crown.

I must advise you that all such conduct serves to breach the provisions of the Treason Act, 1351 with the further provisions of the Treason & Felony Act, 1848.

In addition, I must advise that the Treason & Felony Act of 1848 provides that it is a Criminal Offence for Subjects of the Crown to give aid or comfort to Traitors, and that this offence is punishable by imprisonment for life.

I am concerned for my own position and I must ask you to cease and desist from all treacherous conduct & financial arrangements, without delay.

Unless I receive your written assurance that the Corporation will issue an immediate public apology for all Treason committed thus far, with your further guarantee that the Corporation will cease and desist from all and any conduct that fails to maintain the Supremacy of the British Crown, then I must give fair warning of my intention to discontinue the payment of all such moneys as are now being applied to the financial support of the BBC.

I look forward to receipt of your immediate response to this present letter and I give notice that payments in support of the BBC will be suspended, unless I receive a satisfactory response within 14 days of this present date.

Yours faithfully,

(Sign Here)
Then the second letter in the above link!!

I have...waiting for a comeback now!!
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Old 14-01-2009, 08:36 PM   #4
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If you have a tv, you need a license even if you dont watch it. My policy is this I ignore their threatening and intimidating letters. On the 2 occassions i have had them at my door I didnt let them in to see if I had a telly, they said they could get a warrant, I said go do that, there is a police station round the corner I will ring them and let them know you are coming. They havent done so.

I have been doing this for 10 years, stand up to them dont let them intimidate you. It is another tax on the poor.
Yeah...apparently its a case of sling shit and see if it sticks, ie; they accuse you of having a tv set, (sling the shit at you), you say 'no i havn't' & remain adamant (the shit slips a bit), they say 'yes you have we've got a 'signal' that says you have' (sling a little more shit), and you say 'oh, ok then you got me i cant deny it if you say you know so (the shit stuck)!!!!
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Old 14-01-2009, 08:37 PM   #5
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Then the second letter in the above link!!

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Let us know how you get on as I plan to do something similar. Need to get the printer set up first though!!!
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Old 14-01-2009, 08:40 PM   #6
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If you have a tv, you need a license even if you dont watch it.
Not true. If you really aren't going to watch TV all you have to do is unplug the feed and "tie it up so it's obvious it's not in use". Those were their words to me. Call them up and ask them to send someone round. That's what I did and they never sent anyone round. They did send me a letter stating they were not going to "investigate" me for 3 years. Which was a bit of a shock tbh, I didn't expect that at all.

If you're just playing games or watching DVD's and recordings of programmes then you do not need a licence.
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Old 14-01-2009, 08:43 PM   #7
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If the equipment you have can recieve a tv signal, you need a license, so I was told.

Good letter lottie
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Old 14-01-2009, 08:47 PM   #8
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Any suggestions for arguments/ways of getting around TV Licence besides not having Tv. Mine s due a renewal soon. Also do you need a TV licence if you just have a TV for dvd s and dont watch TV.

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I moved to Finland 10 years ago we also have Tv licences.For a couple of years I used to watch BBC world. It used to get right on my tits when they would self advertize there high standered was due to the UNIQUE way they was funded.I was thinking at that time why doe´s no one sue for false advertizing,but then again it´s uniquely funded in pounds not euro
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Old 14-01-2009, 08:50 PM   #9
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Not true. If you really aren't going to watch TV all you have to do is unplug the feed and "tie it up so it's obvious it's not in use". Those were their words to me. Call them up and ask them to send someone round. That's what I did and they never sent anyone round. They did send me a letter stating they were not going to "investigate" me for 3 years. Which was a bit of a shock tbh, I didn't expect that at all.

If you're just playing games or watching DVD's and recordings of programmes then you do not need a licence.
I can testify to that as well. I have also called them, they told me I could have a TV in the house as long as there was no aerial connected and use it for watching DVD's and videos. I cut the aerial lead at the wall. I do recommend calling them and letting them know your intentions as this will stop the letters. Also, I was told to write on any subsequent letters 'No TV signal received at this address. Return to sender' and pop them in the post back to them. Since the phone call, not one letter or visit. Also, despite what you hear, It is legal to have an internet connection without a TV license.

The license entitles you to watch shows as they are being broadcast. Supposedly, its legal to watch Iplayer as these are not transmission broadcasts - though I stand corrected.

Apparently, you can also write to them officially denying them right of access. I've not done this myself as I wouldn't let them in without a warrant and if they got one, I've nothing to hide.

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Old 14-01-2009, 08:54 PM   #10
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If the equipment you have can recieve a tv signal, you need a license, so I was told.
This is true but remove the feed/cable and your equipment can no longer receive a TV signal. This meets the requirement apparently.
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Old 14-01-2009, 09:01 PM   #11
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From what I understand, the TV licence fee is used to fund the BBC.
As it is a tax on the Briton people; the programming should reflect the wants, needs and opinions of those taxed.

The use of the funding, to reflect an EU manifesto is fraud.
For there to be 400+ BBC staff who have a direct link to Common Purpose, again, shows treasonous activities.

This is a tax on Britain, to fund EU propaganda.

Treasonous and fraudulent.
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Old 14-01-2009, 09:07 PM   #12
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This is true but remove the feed/cable and your equipment can no longer receive a TV signal. This meets the requirement apparently.
Thank you. If a for a brief second I log onto bbc news 24,would I have to get a license
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Old 14-01-2009, 09:14 PM   #13
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I have a reminder here infront of me and it says...

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It is important you renew your licence by 31st January 09. If you dont, it will be illegal to watch or record TV preogrammes at this address as they're being shown on TV. Whether you use a TV set, Digital Box Computer or Mobile Phone, it will still be illegal.
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Thank you. If a for a brief second I log onto bbc news 24,would I have to get a license
If you mean on your TV then that's up to you. I still watched some TV on it for a while.

But technically yes you would.

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Old 14-01-2009, 09:27 PM   #15
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I dont see why we have to have a licence to watch anything online if its not live? The whole point of not having a licence is to do with live broadcasts isnt it? If i watch bbciplayer (a recorded programme) then its not live tv so i shouldnt need a licence?

Is it ok for me to get my mum to record eastenders omnibus addition each sunday on dvd and then i watch it on dvd on the following monday? it wasnt recorded at my address!! It says on the reminder 'as they're being shown on tv'.

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I wouldn't tell on you
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Is it ok for me to get my mum to record eastenders omnibus addition each sunday on dvd and then i watch it on dvd on the following monday? it wasnt recorded at my address!! It says on the reminder 'as they're being shown on tv'.

Haha Eastenders Yes. You can do anything you want as long as your TV is not connected to a live feed. Call and ask them.

Last time I checked you didn't need a license to watch iPlayer.

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Haha Eastenders Yes. You can do anything you want as long as your TV is not 'connected'. Call and ask them.

Last time I checked you didn't need a license to watch iPlayer.
I wondered if thats why they made it available on computer/net so you cant wriggle out of paying even if you claim you only have the net as i do!!

I said Eastenders as an example obviously, not like i'd watch that crap huh?!!!
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A tv license is cheaper if you have a black and white tv. Would I get a cheaper dog license if I had a black and white dog.
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Awesome. Thanks for the info/lettters folks. Looking forward to not paying.

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