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Old 27-12-2008, 04:26 PM   #41
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Dont make the mistake of painting all Jews with the Zionist label.
Many High profile Jews like Stephen Fry and Alexei Sayle oppose Israel.

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Old 27-12-2008, 04:26 PM   #42
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Unbiased? You gotta to be kidding.

The questioner on now is asking the right questions but unbiased? Never!

Israel is not even a State. It is the final aberration on the surface of this world.
What are you saying?
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Old 27-12-2008, 04:29 PM   #43
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They are supporting the Israeli side by asking speakers to comment who are mainly pro-Israel. Listen to the broadcast.

No Media is unbiased. They ALL support the one world order. This is to sow alarm and despondency world wide. Listeners will feel fear and fear is the tool of the Illuminati. When everyone is frightened, no matter of what, they are easily manipulated.

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Old 27-12-2008, 04:35 PM   #44
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Go here!

http://="http://desertpeace.wordpres...kah-massacre/"

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Old 27-12-2008, 04:37 PM   #45
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How many children have the Israeli cunts killed this time?

Why make out like they always target kids? dont you think Palestinian rockes, bomb and suicide attacks have killed many Israeli kids or do they not count in your mind?

The attacks were on police bases.
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Old 27-12-2008, 04:41 PM   #46
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZERDsp...n-US:official&

Have a look at this.

And remember this - the strike was timed deliberately to coincide with the end of the school day.

I must admit that the guy on press site is very good.
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Old 27-12-2008, 04:45 PM   #47
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They are supporting the Israeli side by asking speakers to comment who are mainly pro-Israel. Listen to the broadcast.

No Media is unbiased. They ALL support the one world order. This is to sow alarm and despondency world wide. Listeners will feel fear and fear is the tool of the Illuminati. When everyone is frightened, no matter of what, they are easily manipulated.

Yes but he's challenging the israeli speaker like nothing I've seen on main news channels. Have to say I'm loving this guy.
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Old 27-12-2008, 04:46 PM   #48
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Agreed! Me too. Best I have heard in a long while.

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Old 27-12-2008, 05:15 PM   #49
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Save your hatred for the real nameless monsters behind this slaughter.

Do not let them use you anymore. When you see images of the murdered children instead of blaming Jews or Americans (they are victims too) - instead fill your soul with compassion and love and not hate and fear.

This way we will take back the planet with love and not continue to hand it away with fear.
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Old 27-12-2008, 05:22 PM   #50
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Why make out like they always target kids? dont you think Palestinian rockes, bomb and suicide attacks have killed many Israeli kids or do they not count in your mind?

The attacks were on police bases.
No, you Zionist shill, (gloves off time)

The rockets fired into Israel have killed about four people over the past ten years. Most fall on wasteland and fail to explode. Who knows who is firing these rockets? Undercover Israelis?

At least 220 have been killed in this latest Israeli massacre. Thousands of children have been killed by the Isrealis.
So it's ok to bomb police barracks in Palestine? Scores of children have been killed and blown apart in this latest Israeli massacre according to witnesses.
This is an email I have just received from the Friends of Gaza an hour ago....

Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:52:41 -0500
> From: ramzi@riseup.net
> To: gazafriends@lists.riseup.net
> Subject: [GazaFriends] PRESS RELEASE (reformatted & attached as a Word Document)
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> note attachment
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> For Immediate Release
>
> International Witnesses Speak Out from Gaza
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> For More Information, please visit http://www.FreeGaza.org, or see contact
> details below.
>
> (Besieged Gaza, Palestine - 27th December 2008) - Human Rights Defenders
> from Lebanon, the UK, Poland, Canada, Spain, Italy and Australia are
> present in Gaza and are witnessing and documenting the current Israeli
> attacks on Gaza.
>
> Due to Israel's policy of denying access to international media, human
> rights defenders and aid agencies to the Occupied Gaza Strip, many of
> these Human Rights Defenders arrived in Gaza with the Free Gaza Movement's
> boats. FREE GAZA boats have broken Israel's siege of Gaza five times in
> the past four months.
>
> "At the time of the attacks I was on Omar Mukhtar street and witnessed a
> last rocket hit the street 150 meters away where crowds had already
> gathered to try to extract the dead bodies. Ambulances, trucks, cars -
> anything that can move is bringing injured to
> the hospitals. Hospitals have had to evacuate sick patients to make room
> for the injured. I have been told that there is not enough room in the
> morgues for the bodies and that there is a great lack of blood in the
> blood banks. I have just learned that among the civilians killed today was
> the mother of my good friends in Jabalya camp."
> - Eva Bartlett (Canada) International Solidarity Movement
>
> "Israeli missles tore through a children's playground and busy market in
> Diere Balah, we saw the aftermath - many were injured and some reportedly
> killed. Every Hospital in the Gaza strip is already overwhelmed with
> injured people and does not have the medicine or the capacity to treat
> them. Israel is committing crimes against humanity, it is violating
> international and human rights law, ignoring the United Nations and
> planning even bigger attacks. The world must act now and intensify the
> calls for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against Israel; governments
> need to move beyond words of condemnation into an active and immediate
> restraint of Israel and a lifting of the siege of Gaza"
> - Ewa Jasiewicz (Polish and British) Free Gaza Movement
>
> "The morgue at the Shifa hospital has no more room for dead bodies, so
> bodies and body parts are strewn all over the hospital."
> - Dr. Haidar Eid, (Palestinian, South African) Professor of Social and
> Cultural Studies, Al Aqsa University Gaza
>
> "The bombs began to fall just as the children were on the streets walking
> back from school. I went out onto the stairs and a terrified 5 year old
> girl ran sobbing into my arms."
> - Sharon Lock (Australian) International Solidarity Movement
>
> "This is incredibly sad. This massacre is not going to bring security for
> the State of Israel or allow it to be part of the Middle East. Now calls
> of revenge are everywhere."
> - Dr. Eyad Sarraj - President of the Gaza Community Mental Health Centre
>
> "As I speak they have just hit a building 200 metres away. There is smoke
> everywhere. This morning I went to the building close to where I live in
> Rafah that had been hit. Two bulldozers were immediately attempting to
> clear the rubble. They thought they had found all the bodies. As we
> arrived one more was found."
> - Jenny Linnel (British) International Solidarity Movement
>
> "The home I am staying in is across from the preventive security compound.
> All the glass of the house shattered. The home has been severely damaged.
> Due to the siege there is no glass or building materials to repair this
> damage. One little boy in our house fainted. An eight year little boy was
> trembling on the ground for an hour. In front of our house we found the
> bodies of two little girls under a car, completely burnt. They were coming
> home from school. This is more than just collective punishment. We are
> being treated like laboratory animals. I have lived through the Israeli
> bombardment of Beirut and the Israel's message is the same in Gaza as it
> was in Beirut- The killing of civilians. There was just another explosion
> outside!"
> - Natalie Abu Eid (Lebanon) International Solidarity Movement
> -----
>
> Human Rights Defenders in Gaza (available for interviews):
>
> Dr. Eyad Sarraj (Arabic and English) +972 599400424
>
> Ewa Jasiewicz, Free Gaza Co-Coordinator in Gaza (Polish, Arabic, and
> English) - +972 59 8700497
>
> Dr. Haider Eid (English and Arabic) + 972 59 9441766
>
> Sharon Lock (English) +972 59 8826513
>
> Vittorio Arrigoni (Italian) +972 59 8378945
>
> Fida Qishta (English and Arabic) +972 599681669
>
> Jenny Linnel (English) +972 59 87653777
>
> Natalie Abu Shakra (Arabic and English) 0598336 328
>
> For more information on the Free Gaza Movement (FREE GAZA) or the
> International Solidarity Movement (ISM) contact in the West Bank:
>
> Adam Taylor (ISM) - 972 59 8503948
>
> Lubna Masarwa (FREE GAZA) - 972 50 5633044
>
> ###########
> The Free Gaza Movement, a human rights group, sent two boats to Gaza in
> August 2008. These were the first international boats to land in the port
> in 41 years. Since August, four more voyages were successful, taking
> Parliamentarians, human rights workers, and other dignitaries to witness
> the effects of Israel's draconian policies on the civilians of Gaza.
>
> http://www.FreeGaza.org


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Old 27-12-2008, 05:27 PM   #51
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Thanks for that, Stelios. I am now watching it. Excellent.

It's links like this that I come to David Ickes forum.
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Old 27-12-2008, 05:41 PM   #52
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Save your hatred for the real nameless monsters behind this slaughter.

Do not let them use you anymore. When you see images of the murdered children instead of blaming Jews or Americans (they are victims too) - instead fill your soul with compassion and love and not hate and fear.

This way we will take back the planet with love and not continue to hand it away with fear.
very well put....too often (because of propaganda) we blame an entire nation, when its the dark forces that lurk in their dark corners that pull the strings of the governments everywhere.

Humanity has forgotten that we are ALL children of the creator, & now we need to remember this, & send love to all the citizens of our planet to help fight off these dark forces. They can't stand LOVE & PEACE, so thats our weapon folks.

Sorry endlesvista....I got on my soap box there.
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Old 27-12-2008, 06:13 PM   #53
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Gaza Blowup Highlights Bush's Broken Peace Promise
By Jon Perr Saturday Dec 27, 2008 9:30am

In January, George W. Bush famously predicted he would broker a Middle East peace by the end of his presidency. Now with Israel's launch this morning of airstrikes in Gaza -- which so far have left 155 dead -- Bush's pledge of a two-state solution is just the latest failure of his disastrous tenure in the White House.

Tensions between Israeli and Hamas forces have been escalating since the expiration last week of a six-month truce negotiated by Egypt. The retaliatory tit-for-tat has included Israeli strikes against militants in Gaza, and Hamas firing rockets and mortars into Israel. And while Israel reopened border crossings Friday for deliveries of food, supplies and humanitarian aid, the AP reported that the government of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert "wrapped up preparations for a broad offensive."

On Thursday, the scandal-plagued outgoing Prime Minister issued a warning to Palestinians in Gaza. As Reuters recounted:

"I didn't come here to declare war," Mr. Olmert told Al Arabiya, an Arab broadcaster widely watched in Gaza. "But Hamas must be stopped - that is the way it is going to be."

He issued what amounted to a public call to Gazans to overthrow Hamas, the Islamic group that controls the territory. "I'm telling them now," he said. "It may be the last minute. There will be more blood there. Who wants it? We don't want it."

That kind of rhetoric hardly suggests any imminent breakthrough in Israeli-Palestinian relations during the 25 days remaining in the Bush presidency -- especially given this morning's airstrikes. Which is exactly what President Bush promised 11 months ago.

After years of malign neglect regarding the simmering Israeli-Palestinian conflict, President Bush launched his renewed peace effort at the November 2007 Annapolis conference. During a subsequent meeting on January 11, 2008 with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Bush made his pledge of a signed agreement during his presidency:

"I believe it's going to happen, that there will be a signed peace treaty by the time I leave office...I'm on a timetable. I've got 12 months."

President Bush's unshakable confidence continued through the next round of talks in May. In an interview with Al-Arabiya television, President Bush doubled-down on his earlier bet. Asked if an agreement can still be reached by the time he departs the White House, he repeated his pledge:

"Yes, I think so. That's what I'm aiming for, absolutely. We're pushing hard.''

President Bush might have wanted to first check in with his Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. On April 29, Rice tried to reset expectations, telling an American Jewish audience that "we have a chance to reach the basic contours of a settlement by the end of the year." Bush himself briefly signaled a retreat during an April 24th meeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, lowering his goal from a peace treaty, "I'm confident we can achieve the definition of a state." And during a press conference five days later, Bush remained ebullient about what then seemed to be more modest goals:

"I'm still hopeful we'll get an agreement by the end of my presidency. Condi is heading back out there. I've been in touch with President Abbas here in the Oval Office, and I talk to Prime Minister Olmert, and the attitude is good. People do understand the importance of getting a state defined."

Alas, President Bush's perpetually sunny disposition seems disconnected from events on the ground. Even amid the chaos and carnage in March as Israeli forces and Hamas forces battled in Gaza, Bush announced, "I'm still as optimistic as I was after Annapolis." By May, the prospects seemed bleaker still, with Abbas still mired in Fatah's power struggle with Hamas and Israeli Prime Minister Olmert gravely weakened by the mushrooming corruption scandal enveloping his government. In an interview on May 13 with the Israeli paper Ha'aretz, Bush made it clear he was undeterred:

Q: Mr. President, Prime Minister Olmert is under a corruption probe and is basically almost on the verge of being forced out from office. And his counterpart, Abu Abbas, is also very weak. So really the question is, do you still think that you can achieve peace until the end of 2008?

THE PRESIDENT: I do, yes.

Even though talks between Olmert and Abbas continued behind the scenes, the environment was not a promising one. As Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), recently put it:

"It's hard to remember a less auspicious time to pursue Arab-Israeli peacemaking than right now. The politics on the ground are absolutely miserable."

For her part, Secretary of State Rice finally put an end to Bush's wishful thinking on December 15. After a meeting of the diplomatic Quartet of Mideast peacemakers - the U.S., the U.N., the European Union and Russia – held at the United Nations, Rice announced:

"They won't achieve agreement by the end of the year, but they have achieved a good deal of progress in their negotiations, a good deal of progress in the work that is being done on the ground."

Time will tell. Olmert, like Bush, is on his way out of office. (A victory in the February elections by Likud's Benjamin Netanyahu over Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Defense Minister Ehud Barak would almost certainly bring a harder line from the Israeli government). Regardless, the Israeli-Palestinian impasse is just another in George W. Bush's litany of failures - and yet another mess Barack Obama will have to clean up.

http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/g...hs-broken-peac
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Old 27-12-2008, 06:24 PM   #54
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What's their excuse for this offence? They need at least that don't they? Mumbling the word Hamas shouldn't be enough. UN and the international community is a joke. Why during Christmas time? Does that make people ignore it or pay more attention to it?
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What's their excuse for this offence? They need at least that don't they? Mumbling the word Hamas shouldn't be enough. UN and the international community is a joke. Why during Christmas time? Does that make people ignore it or pay more attention to it?
the usual, hamas launched rockets now Israel needs to defend it's citizens

the Rothschild cabal must love hamas seeing as they are the perfect ''problem'' to justify their preferred ''solution''

wouldn't surprise me at all if it turns out Hamas is funded by Mossad..

anyone done some research into this ?
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the usual, hamas launched rockets now Israel needs to defend it's citizens

the Rothschild cabal must love hamas seeing as they are the perfect ''problem'' to justify their preferred ''solution''

wouldn't surprise me at all if it turns out Hamas is funded by Mossad..

anyone done some research into this ?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html
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Old 27-12-2008, 07:13 PM   #57
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^ Good post.
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Old 27-12-2008, 07:16 PM   #58
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how quick were the media to get on the backs of russians about attacking georgia when it wasnt even russia who were the aggressors.

now, israel are BLATANTLY the aggressors and "its all too complicated" for the western media to take a stance on.

sickening. im sick and tired of jews.
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Old 27-12-2008, 07:17 PM   #59
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the news report that 1 israeile was killed by rockets.
and the 200 killed is nothing close to the end of the payback.
i would like to know if they send the airstrikes/troops in to the area of jerusalem.
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“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship…Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
— Leading Nazi leader, Hermann Goering, at the Nuremberg Trials before he was sentenced to death
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