|21-12-2008, 04:35 PM||#1|
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Ive been studying the claim of giant skeletons that once roamed the earth and my results are quite inconclusive.
There seems to be evidence that supports it..........
Especially the Mica Giant
The Mica Giant
In 1879, a burial mound in Brewersville, Indiana yielded another giant skeleton, according to the November, 1975 edition of The Indianapolis News. This one reached 9 feet 8 inches tall! It wore a necklace of mica stone, and a crude human effigy of clay was found standing at his feet. The giant skeleton was examined by scientists from Indiana and New York, and it remained in the possession of Mr. Robinson, who owned the land on which the mound stood. Unfortunately, the curious bones were washed away in a flood in 1937.
Unusually there is nothing on Wikipedia on the Mica Giant???? I have not found any other sources either, all the sources i have come across all have exactly the same details.
Some of the most recent media about giant skeletons is this
Recent gas exploration activity in the south east region of the Arabian desert uncovered a skeletal remains of a human of phenomenal size. This region of the Arabian desert is called the Empty Quarter, or in Arabic, 'Rab-Ul-Khalee'. The discovery was made by the Aramco Exploration team. As God states in the Quran that He had created people of phenomenal size the like of which He has not created since. These were the people of Aad where Prophet Hud was sent. They were very tall, big, and very powerful, such that they could put their arms around a tree trunk and uproot it. Later these people, who were given all the power, turned against God and the Prophet and transgressed beyond all boundaries set by God. As a result they were destroyed.
Ulema's of Saudi Arabia believe these to be the remains of the people of Aad. Saudi Military has secured the whole area and no one is allowed to enter except the ARAMCO personnel. It has been kept in secrecy, but a military helicopter took some pictures from the air and one of the pictures leaked out into the internet in Saudi Arabia.
Heres the link with the pictures.......
But as you can see by the URL of the link above it has been proven to have been a hoax. Does this mean that the Mica Giant is also a hoax???? Because the Mica Giant was first discovered in 1879 and remained there until 1937 (58 years)
What happened to these bones in the 57 years they were there I wonder??? What tests if any were done to them???? And how were they washed away in a great flood????
If anyones got any info, hopefully with links id be fascinated to look.
We need each others help.
|21-12-2008, 10:25 PM||#2|
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Were There Races Of Giant Humans? http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4923
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A Giant Cover-up: The Smithsonian Giants
Rumored to be beneath the Vatican lie many levels of secret, impregnable vaults that make up the legendary Vatican Archives. Supposedly containing the plunder of millennia and the secrets of the ages, their contents have filled the imaginations of countless generations. Perhaps not equal in quality, but certainly rivaling in quantity, are the archives of the Smithsonian Institution. And in those archives, open only to government officials, lie the bones of many thousands of corpses dug up, described and stored without study, many for over a century and a half. Scores, if not hundreds, of these skeletons are considered giants and yet, they lie deteriorating, not finding the slightest interest from anthropologists. Wanting no part in rocking the neatly defined, religiously correct American prehistory model, the researchers ignore them now and there is no sign this will ever change.
Hidden in dark, inaccessible storage is a sad example of scientific domination over social understanding and cultural history. Not to be found in the history books, the science references or the classroom is undeniable evidence that a race of giants had a prominent presence on the North American continent. Also hidden from public understanding is the fact that giants were among the native people who fell before the colonial eradication crusade. Only the fortunate cultural conscience of amateur historians, writing about the prominent events of their individual communities, preserved easily accessible evidence of giants in our North American past.
Though there is much evidence in the written record of the Smithsonian it is an overwhelming and disorganized system typical of a rapid and misguided mass internment project. Meant more to verify the inferiority of the accepted view that the natives standing in the way of economic progress and religious dominance were a more savage and primitive race of sub humans than a relevant culture, the die was cast. All evidence, showing anything not fitting a Stone Age culture better eliminated than trifled with or indicating anything that might warrant serious study, was quietly filed away and warehoused in obscurity.
We have glimpses of a great society thriving on the North American continent in total contradiction to historical propaganda. Throughout the entire continent there were many great societies living from the land while maintaining a high level of stewardship over it for thousands of years. A harmony of cultural beliefs that paid homage to the biosphere that so generously provided their needs, the value of life and love and gods that ruled their existence, was their religion. But, the colonial interlopers, who wanted to reap the generous harvest in the name of profit, considered the moderate use of the land inefficient and the natural way of life only a hindrance to progress. Even offers from the native population to share the bounty was not enough. The religious crusaders considered the native beliefs heathen, pagan, and in need of change.
To the invaders, the concept of living from the land without farms and fences was totally impractical. The ridiculous practice of taking only what was needed without any regard to profit was simply a sign of native stupidity. The only thing the religious zealots understood about the native beliefs was that they had to be changed at all cost, as quickly as possible. And, as proof of all the colonial views, the natives actually resisted the change, resulting in the entire race being labeled as savages.
When science studied the indigenous population they found exactly what the religious and commercial wanted them to find. Not only did the natives act like primitives, they actually were primitives. Their physical nature was classified as less developed then their European superiors, their mental capacity was consider as woefully inadequate, and even the color and shape of their eyes was considered as evidence of primal and ferocious passions. Science justified the genocide by lowering the value of the victims.
With this racist mindset as the focus of research eventually done by the Smithsonian, anything that might question the inferiority of the indigenous peoples was not considered valid. Anything not dark skinned, dark haired or dark eyed didn’t fit the mold, so it was discarded. Any signs that these savages may have had contact with other civilized societies might indicate they may possess some cultural diversity, so that also was discarded. And the evidence of giants posed the worst of all possible problems; they could create interest, which might produce investigation, and could possibly expose the racist conspiracy. Blond haired, blue eyed, white skinned or giant corpses needed to quietly disappear, and they did, deep into the vaults of the Smithsonian. Only the low browed, angle eyed, stocky corpses fit the mold and only they were studied.
The sad result is that the evidence of giants on the North American continent is in storage in the dark warehouses of the Smithsonian. We know of their presence from the catalog records that were kept by the people who dug them up and boxed them away. For the present they are only accessible to government officials with no explanation of the secrecy. There is no interest in exploring this enigma because the racist mindset toward the indigenous peoples of North America has only changed from fear to pity. True understanding of the nature of these proud people and the giants they lived with will never be achieved until their culture comes out of the quaint gift shops and off the new age bookshelves and into the scientific journals and the classroom.
The evidence of giants in North America is extensive, but woefully simplistic, mainly the discovery of skeletons and skulls. They were mainly dug up, described in local history journals or newspapers, and then shipped off to museums, never to be seen again. A few are still in the public domain. It is the simple record of the discoveries and a few privately held skeletons, bones or skulls that provide the only evidence available.
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In fossil in the 1930's deposits found around Bathurst from a depth of 6 feet below the surface a fossil lower back molae tooth was found. The owner would have been at least 25 ft. tall. Also found were huge stone artifacts -- clubs, pounders, adzes, chisels, knives and hand axes all of tremendous weight, scattered over a wide area weighing from 8 to 25 pounds, implements which only men of tremendous proportions could possibly have made and used. Estimates for the actual size of these men range from 10 to 12 feet tall and over, weighing from 500 to 600 lbs.
At Gympie, Queensland, a large fragment of the back portion of a jaw which still possessed the hollow for a missing lower back molar tooth was discovered. The owner of the tooth would have stood at 10 feet tall.
● Blue Mountain
In the Megalong Valley in the Blue Mountains NSW, a depression found in ironstone protruding from a creek bank was the deeply impressed print of a large human-like foot. This footprint measures 7 inches across the toes. Had the footprint been complete it would have been at least 2 feet in length, appropriate to a 12 foot human. The largest footprint found on the Blue Mountains must have belonged to a man 20 feet tall!
A set of 3 huge footprints was discovered near Mulgoa, south of Penrith, N.S.W. The prints, each measuring 2 ft 7 inches across the toes, are 6 ft. apart, indicating the stride of the 12 ft. giant who left them.
● Macleay River
Noel Reeves found near Kempsey, N.S.W. monstrous footprints were discovered in sandstone beds on the Upper Macleay River. One print shows toe 4 inches long and the total toe-span is 10 inches suggesting that the owner of the print may have been 17 feet tall.
Aborigine themselves admit in their ancient folklore that this land was inhabited by several groups of men, as well as giants, before they settled here.
Aymon, a member of the Archduke Ferdinand's bodyguard, reportedly stood eleven feet tall. For many years a carved wooden likeness of this giant was preserved in the Castle of Ambras in the Tyrol Alpines.
● Battle of Noreia
In 113 B.C., Rome dispatched an army to check the migration of three hundred thousand Cimbri and Teutone warriors, plus their women and children who followed them in leather-covered wagons. Led by Papirius Carbo, the Roman legionnaires engaged these German giants in battle at Noreia in Styria and were annihilated by them.
● Josef Winkelmaier
An Austrian named Josef Winkelmaier was exhibited in London on January 10,1887 who claimed a height of eight feet nine inches.
In his Annals of Bavaria, Aventine writes that a giant named Ænotherus, who threw down whole battalions like mowing grass, fought on the Emperor Charlemagne's side. The huge warrior hailed from Turgan, near the Lake of Constance.
● Flanders' Giants
In his Origines Antwerpianoe, 1569, and De Gigantomachia, royal physician Johannes Goropius Becanus reports that a youth almost nine feet tall and a woman about ten feet tall lived near his home in Flanders.
● In 1936, two French archaeologists, Lebeuf and Griaule, on an expedition to Chad in North Central Africa, dug up several egg-shaped funeral jars that contained the remains of a gigantic race, along with pieces of their jewelry and their works of art.1 The giants, according to the natives, were called the Saos.
● From account of Captain George Shelvock's 1719 voyage: "M. Frezier gives us an account that the Indians inhabiting the continent to the south of this island (the island of Chiloe, which lies off the coast of Chile, about lat. 42 S. and long. about 72 W of London) are called Chronos, that they go quite naked, and that in the inland part there is a race of men of an extraordinary size, called Cacabues, who, being in amity with the Chronos, have sometimes come with them to the dwellings of the Spaniards at Chiloe. He adds, that he was credibly informed by several who had been eye witnesses, that some were about nine or ten feet high.
● The Chinese, in whose land archaeologists have found some of the earliest skeletal remains of giants, insist they once had among them some men as much as fifteen feet tall.
● Peking Giants
Melchior Nunnez, in his letters from India, vouches for the fact that China grew some giants to that tremendous size. He "speaks of porters who guarded the gates of Peking who were of that immense height; and in a letter dated in 1555, he avers that the emperor of that country entertained and fed five hundred of such men for archers of his guard." George Hakewill, in his Apologie, 1627, issues a similar report
● Chang Woo Gow
The Chinese giant Chang Woo Gow showed himself in England in 1865 at the old Egyptian Hall in Piccadilly. A courtly gentleman and able scholar, he was invited to visit the Prince and Princess of Wales. He stood eight feet two inches. He was not the tallest in his family, however, for one sister measured eight feet four inches.
● Chinese Colossus
Purchaas, in his Pilgrimes, 1625, says that while he was in China he saw a man who "was cloathed with a tyger's skin, the hayre outward, his armes, head, and legges bare, with a rude pole in his hand; well-shaped, seeming ten palmes or spans long, his hayre hanging on his shoulders."
Cornwall was known as the Land of the Giants. The Cornish giants were a six-toed, six-fingered race, some known to be gentle.
● Cormoran and his blind wife Cormelian lived on St Michael's Mount.
● Holiburn of Carn Galva protected the people of Morvah and Zennor.
● Denbras lived in the Towednack hills.
● Myen du lived at Maen Castle near Land's End.
● Dynas, a deaf and dumb giant Treryn, lived in the stronghold of Dinas.
● Bolster lived in Beacon.
● Jack the Tinkeard or Jack of the Hammer, perhaps the original giant-killer, found his fame here.
● Antony Payne
By the time the Cornish giant Antony Payne reached his twenty-first birthday he already stood seven feet two inches. After his father, a tenant farmer at Stratton, "attached" him to the house of Sir Beville Granville of Stowe, his landlord, Tony grew two more inches. For all his size and bulk, the witty Payne showed no signs of clumsiness, but awed everyone with his dexterity and very quick reflexes. They also say he had the brains to match the brawn that had thrust him into the role of a mighty man.
● Tregoney Giant
While working in a new tin mine at Tregoney-on-Fal, in Cornwall, reports the Annual Register for 1761, a miner discovered a stone coffin on which some unrecognizable characters were inscribed. Inside the ancient eleven-foot-three-inch casket he saw the gigantic skeleton of a man, which, when exposed to the air, crumbled to dust-except for one tooth, which measured two and one-half inches in length.
● Allia, Battle of
At the little river Allia, in 387 B.C., the Senone giants put the proud Roman army to a hasty, humiliating flight. Upon hearing the news of the defeat, practically the entire population of Rome fled the city. Shortly afterward, the revengeful giants burned Rome to the ground.
● Cimmerian Giants
The Cimbri or Cimmerians, after making their way overland by the northern route, occupied for a time the country above the Euxine or Black Sea, around the Palus Maeotidis. When they again felt the irresistible urge to roam, they continued westward, eventually settling east of the Rhine, in Germany. They afterward established themselves as far north as Denmark and also colonized Belgium. Acmon's hordes, meanwhile, having advanced by the southern route, first settled in Cappadocia and Galatia, then later on the southern shores of the Black Sea. From there they spread into Gaul, which today we call France, and also across Spain, where they assimilated with the Iberians.6 Being as prolific in Eu-rope as they had been in Asia, Gomer's oversized children soon overspread a vast territory—from the lands east of the Rhine to the Atlantic and from the Baltic Sea to the coasts of Spain. They also inhabited Switzerland and some northern parts of Italy, especially around the Adriatic. The Greek historian Pausanias called them the world's tallest people. Gerhard Herm, his modern counterpart, agrees. He describes them as "blond giants" who struck terror in the hearts of every foe, even in the mightiest of mighty Rome, which they fought several ferocious wars with and which they once captured, sacked, and burnt to the ground. At the utmost divergence from the mean, some Celts even stood to a colossal height, perhaps as tall as or taller than the nine-foot-nine Goliath, or even Og, who required a bed over thirteen feet long.
● Giants are often celebrated as heroes in the North of France.
● Jan den Houtkapper, a giant with blue eyes, was head of a family of giants.
● Ain Giant
The Gospel Herald of Dayton, Ohio, gives the following account of a large human skeleton, recently discovered in Ain, France. The frame is complete in all its parts, and is four yards in height. It was found in a soil of alluvium, the head buried in the earth, with the feet upward."
● Angers' Giant
A skeleton found in 1692 in a tomb near Angers, France, which measured seventeen feet four inches.
● Battle near Aquae Sextiae,
Two days after the battle at Aquae Sextiae, the great Roman general Gaius Marius tricked over one hundred thousand huge Teutones and Ambrones into attacking his retreating cavalry up a hill where he was posted. At the top, the cavalry suddenly turned. Being now joined by the legionnaires, they drove the pursuing Teutones and Ambrones into an ambush that Marius had set up in some nearby woods. Of the great Celtic army that began the battle, only three thousand escaped.
● Bordeaux Giant
In his De Gigantibus, Joh. Cassanio relates that while in Bordeaux, Francis I of France (1494-1547) saw a giant of such height that he immediately enlisted him as one of his guards. It is said that the giant, who subsequently became an archer, stood so tall that a man of ordinary size could walk between his legs.
● Joseph Brice
Known as "The Giant of the Mountains" at the age of sixteen he toured France and afterward exhibited himself in England and Ireland. In an 1862 advertisement he claimed to be eight feet tall, but Frank Buchland challenged him to a measurement, and in his third series of Curiosities of Natural History, he reported the French giant's actual height as seven feet six and one-half inches. But that was still tall enough, declared Buchland, to frighten the troop-horses at Regent's Park Barracks and cause them to snort and shy away when he and the giant, as his invited guest, visited that place.
● Chevalier Ricon De Vallemont
An ancient tomb that ditch diggers uncovered in Rouen, France, in 1509, contained the skeleton of a man over seventeen feet tall, in his armor. Affixed to the tomb was this engraved identification: "In this tomb lies the noble and puissant lord, the Chevalier Ricon de Vallemont, and his bones."
● Charles Gruel D'lndreville
His seven feet six inches made Charles Gruel d'lndreville, of Nesle, in Normandy, the tallest Frenchman of his day. As a young man he enlisted as a private in the imperial army, but quickly rose to the rank of sub-lieutenant. He fought in the battles of Wagram and Moscow. When he returned to France he set up a glassworks that became famous, even drawing several visits from King Louis Philippe himself. He belonged to the Legion of Honor. In 1860, at the age of seventy-one, he died near Rouen.27
● Louis Frenz
In 1829, Louis Frenz, a seven-foot-four-inch Frenchman, came to London seeking his fortune. During his tour, his portrait was engraved and a cast of his giant hand was made for the Museum of the Royal College of Surgeons in London. Frenz reportedly had a brother taller than himself and two sisters almost as tall.
● Antoine Hugo
Antoine Hugo proclaimed himself the world's tallest man. He stood about eight feet and four inches tall.
John Riolan, the naturalist, relates that at the close of the sixteenth century the tomb of the giant Isoret, who towered twenty feet high, could be seen near St. Germain.
● Battle in Provence
In 109 B. C, the Cimbri, Teutones, and Ambrones suddenly reappeared in Roman-occupied Provence. To check them, the Senate sent an army out under the consul Silanus. The giants practically destroyed it and put their few survivors to a rout.
The giant Bucart, the famed "tyrant of the Vivarais," whose bones were recovered in 1705 from his grave at the foot of the Crussol mountain in France, measured twenty-two-and-a-half-feet tall.
● Brunswick-Hanover Giant
According to Schreber, in his History of Quadrupeds, 1775, the Duke of Brunswick-Hanover had in his service a guard eight feet six inches tall.
● Jacob Damman
Platerus, a noted seventeenth century physician who took a great interest in giants, reported seeing "a young man at Luneuburg called Jacob Damman, who for his extraordinary stature was carried through Germany to be seen. Anno 1613 he was brought to us at Basil; he was then twenty-three years and a half of age; beardless as yet, strong of body and limbs, save that at that time he was rather sick and lean; he was nine feet high complete; the length of his hand was one foot six inches."
In the sixteenth century, a giant named Michael, who measured eight feet tall, served in the Court of Joachim, the Elector of Brandenburgh, a province in northeastern Germany.
● Maximilian Christopher Miller
Maximilian Christopher Miller, born in 1674 at Leipzig, in Saxony, not only grew to a remarkable height but exhibited amazing strength. After touring several countries on the continent, he came to England about 1728, during the reign of George II. According to James Paris' manuscript at the British Museum, Miller appeared in November, 1732, at the Blue Post, as announced in the following handbill: "This is to give notice to all gentlemen, ladies, and others. That there is just arrived from France, and is to be seen at the Two Blue Posts and Rummer, near Charing-cross, a giant, born in Saxony, almost eight foot in height, and every way proportionable; the like has not been seen in any part of the world for many years: he has had the honour to shew himself to most princes in Europe, particularly to his late majesty the King of France, who presented him with a noble scymiter, and a silver mace." Maximilian Christopher Miller appears in this etching wearing his cap topped with a plume of feathers and the curved sword that Louis XIV presented to him. Miller actually stood seven feet eight inches tall, but his velvet cap, with its large plume, made him seem taller. He usually wore a Hungarian tunic, and always at his side swung the curved, single-edged sword that Louis XIV gave him. Dressed thus, he would appear dramatically in a draped doorway, strut briefly among his patrons, then suddenly vanish, leaving them "clamoring to see him again."
● Rhone River Battle
In 105 B.C., when a large band of roving German giants advanced as far as Orange, two Roman armies, one under Caepio, the other under Manlius, confronted them at the river Rhone. In the resulting battle, only ten legionnaires and two generals escaped.
● Saxony's Prodigy
A seven-foot-five-inch giant from Saxony was born with such strength that he could hold at arm's length a ten-pound weight for twelve minutes. James Paris, who saw him in London in May, 1716, included him in his book of drawings, which the British Museum later acquired. The Saxony giant, during his travels in Europe, was presented with a suit of armor custom-made to his great size by the King of the Romans. In England he appeared before George I, the Queen, the Prince of Wales, and Court of Windsor.
● Wurttemberg's Giant
Schreber, in his History of Quadrupeds, 1775, reports that the Duke of Wiirttemberg in Germany employed a porter with a stature of seven and a half feet.
Greece The Greeks had more than their share of giants.
● The Giants, Titans and Cyclopes include: Agrius, Alcyoneus, Aloeus, Alpus, Antaeüs, Arges, Atlas, Brontes, Chthonius, Clytius, Coeus, Crius, Cronus, Damasen, Enceladus, Ephialtes, Epimetheus, Eurytus, Gegenees, Gration, Hippolytus, Hopladamus, Hyperion, Lapetus, Metis, Mimas, Mnemosyne, Oceanus, Orion, Orius, Otus, Pallas, Peloreus, Phoebe, Polybotes, Porphyrion, Prometheus, Rhea, Steropes, Talus, Tethys, Thea, Themis, Thoas, Thurius, and Typhoeus.
● Antimenidas' Victory
Strabo mentions a royal champion of gigantic stature who was slain, after "a great struggle," by Antimenidas, of Mitylene in Lesbos, a soldier brother of the famed Greek poet Alcaeus.
● From the history of the voyage of Capt. Cowley, an Englishman, in 1583, appears an account of giants: The Indian inhabitants of this island were all well made, active, vigorous, and some of them seven feet and an half high. Capt. Cowley took as he says, four of these Infidels prisoners, which to be sure, being a good Christian, he had a right to do; and it appears by the sequel of the account, that he treated them as other good Christians had treated Infidels, which strength or cunning had put into their power. "We brought them on board, says he, tying their hands behind them, but they had not been long there before three of them leapt overboard into the sea, swimming away from the ship with their hand bound behind them we sent a boat after them, and fund that a strong man at the first blow could not penetrate their skins with a cutlas. One of them had received, in my judgment, forty shots in his body before he died, and the last of the three that was killed had swam a good English mile, though his hands were not only tied behind him, but his arms pinioned."
● German Prodigy
The "German Giant" claimed a height of nine feet six inches. On August 15,1664, Pepys went to Charing Cross, "and there saw the great Dutchman that is come over, under whose arm I went with my hat on, and could not reach higher than his eyebrows with the tip of my fingers. He is a comely and well-made man, and his wife a very little but pretty comely Dutch woman." Pepys then adds: "It is true, he wears pretty high-heeled shoes, but not very high, and do generally wear a turban, which makes him show yet taller than he really is." One of his handbills reads: "The true Effigies of the German Giant, now to be seen at the Swan, near Charing Cross, whose stature is nine foot and a half in height, and the span of his hand a cubit compleat. He goes from place to place with his wife, who is but of an ordinary stature, and takes money for the shew of her husband."
● Leyden's Giant Man
Dr. Thomas Molyneux examined the osfrontis or forehead bone of a giant man preserved in the school of medicine at Leyden that measured about twenty-one inches from orbit to orbit, or "twice as large as a common bone of this sort in a full-grown man."
● John Tates
Isbrand Diemerbroeck, in his Anatomy, relates that in 1665, at Utrecht, Holland, he saw a man eight and a half feet tall, well-proportioned, and of great strength. The giant's name was John Tates, born at Schoonhoven in Holland. Tates is also mentioned by Ray in his topographical Observations, by Dr. Robert Plot in his Staffordshire, 1686, and by Dr. Thomas Molyneux in the Philosophical Transactions of 1700.
● James Paris du Plessis, in his Short History of Human Prodigies, Dwarfs, etc., reports that a Hungarian, known as the "Monstrous Tartar," was exhibited at "Ye Globe in the ould Baily in February 1664. He was taken prisoner by Count Serini and was a creature of extraordinary strength and valour, who, having spent all his arrows in fight against the Christians, was taken alive and so continues being carefully kept in those parts."
● Before the Incan times, Wiraccocha created the heavens and the earth, he first created a race of giants.
● Irish tradition recounts that the brutal, warlike Fomorians were "giants" who invaded in ships from Africa, and demanded children at Halloween time. They were finally driven north to the Hebrides Isles off northwest Scotland and to Tory Island off northwest Ireland in the deep Atlantic. From there, they preyed on the people of Ulster. The Formorian giants were supposedly endowed with double-rows of teeth.
In its August 1, 1732, issue, the Daily Post thought it worth a paragraph to let its readers know that "about the middle of July, an Irishman named Fitzgerald who was seven feet high and a lieutenant in the King of Prussia's Guards, came to London.
● Edmund Malone
In the Philosophical Transactions for 1698, Dr. William Musgrave issued the following report on the Irish giant Edmund Malone: "The measure of some of the parts of this Irish-man, nineteen years of age, shown at Oxford, were communicated to me by Dr. Plot. He was seven feet six inches high, his finger six inches and three quarters long, the length of his span fourteen inches, of his cubit (the distance from the elbow to the finger-tips) two feet two inches, of his arm three feet two inches and a quarter, from the shoulder to the crown of his head eleven inches and three-quarters." Earlier, in 1684, the giant appeared before the Court of Charles II. The amazed king walked under his outstretched arm, an event that Malone mentioned thereafter in his handbills, as in the following: "The Gyant; or the Miracle of Nature. Being that so much admired young man, aged nineteen years last June, 1684. Born in Ireland, of such a prodigious height and bigness, and every way proportionable, the like hath not been seen since the memory of man: he hath been several times shown at court, and his majesty was pleased to walk under his arm, and he is grown very much since, he now reaches ten foot and a half, fathoms near eight foot, spans fifteen inches; and is believed to be as big as one of the giants in Guildhall. He is to be seen at the sign of the Catherine Wheell in Southwark fair. Vivat Rex."
● Murphy, the Irish Giant
Working on the Liverpool Docks apparently did not appeal much to Murphy, the Irish giant. So he quit to wait on tables at the hotel. But because he was a man of extraordinary height, Murphy drew large crowds to the hotel. One day he decided he might as well get paid for being a curiosity and began exhibiting himself. In May of 1857, the Emperor and Empress of Austria invited the touring County Down native to appear before them. Before he died of smallpox at Marseilles, at the age of twenty-six, Murphy had amassed a small fortune. He measured almost nine feet and weighed three hundred and thirty-six pounds.
● Shawn Nabontree
On December 6, 1856, the Mayo Constitution carried this obituary: "One of the last of the mythical line of Irish giants, in the person of Shawn Nabontree, died at Connemara, Ireland, on Friday last. He owed his sobriquet to his unusual stature, being a man of extraordinary athletic symmetry-namely, seven feet in height, and weighing over twenty stone [280 pounds]. His family, the Joyces, has been for many years one of the wonders of Connemara. He died at the age of seventy, and has left four stalwart sons."
● Patrick Cotter O'Brien
Patrick Cotter O'Brien was a native of Kinsale in the kingdom of Ireland and measured nearly nine feet high. O'Brien's great size sometimes placed him in humorous situations. In an article published in the Mirror for 1826, his hairdresser, who lived at Northampton, noted that the giant was a man of mild disposition, but he recalled when "an impertinent visitant excited his choler one day, during his residence here [at Northampton], by illiberal allusions to the land of his birth. The Philistine was sensible of the insult, seized the prig by the collar, held him out at arm's length, and gave him three or four mild agitations." Another time, O'Brien was riding in his coach, which was about to be robbed. Because of his huge frame, his carriage maker had adapted the coach to his better use. By sinking the foundation some feet, the maker found a way to accommodate his long legs without changing the carriage's appearance very much. So when the highwayman rode out into the road and stopped the coach he expected nothing out of the ordinary. But as O'Brien put "his head forward to observe the cause that impeded his progress, the highwayman was struck with such a panic, that he clapped spurs to his horse and made a precipitate retreat."
● Pritchard on Irish Giants
In his History of Mankind, Dr. Pritchard writes: "In Ireland men of uncommon stature are often seen, and even a gigantic form and stature occur there much more frequently than in this island: yet all the British isles derived their stock of inhabitants from the same sources. We can hardly avoid the conclusion that there must be some peculiarity in Ireland which gives rise to these phenomena." "Frederick the Great ascended the throne, he soon afterward disbanded the enormously expensive regiment of giants and, with the money saved, established in their place four regiments of men of ordinary stature."
About 387 B.C., the Celtic chieftain Brennus led three hundred thousand Senone giants across the Apennines. Swarming into northern Italy, these hordes ravaged Etruscan towns and the surrounding country as they went. This invasion soon led to a war between the giants and Rome, after a Roman embassy blundered while trying to negotiate a peace between the Etruscans and the Senones. It was Brennus who later reddened the faces of the Romans with a humiliating insult. While weighing out a bushel of gold as a ransom payment to the Senones for their withdrawal, the Romans started an argument over the scales the Senones were using. Thereupon, Brennus threw the weight of his great sword on the scales, with this warning: "Woe to the vanquished!"
● Calabria's Colossus
The Journal Litteraire of the Abbé Nazari reports that the skeleton of a huge giant exhumed in Calabria, Italy, measured "eighteen Roman feet." The fellow's teeth, adds the journal, weighed at least an ounce each.
● The remains of an enormous 6ft. 6in. warrior who fought more than 2,000 years ago have been found in Kazakhstan. Archaeologists believe he was well-built, heavily armed, and revered by people who buried him with his weapons. Historians say this may lead them to re-examine the origins of the region's people.
● Laotian mythical giants were known as Yaksa.
● At Agadir in Morocco, reports Peter Kolosimo, the French Captain Lafanechere "discovered a complete arsenal of hunting weapons including five hundred double-edged axes weighing seventeen and a half pounds, which were twenty times as heavy as would be convenient for modern man. To handle the axe at all one would need to have hands of a size appropriate to a giant with a stature of at least 13 feet."
● Dutch Giant
In 1837, a young giant left the service of the King of the Netherlands and exhibited himself for money at Parma. He reportedly stood eight feet ten and three-quarters inches, and weighed four hun-dred and one pounds.28
Giants play an integral role in the lore of the Norse gods.
● Angr-boda, Asvid, Aurboda, Aurvandil, Baugi, Beli, Bergelmir, Bestla, Bolthorn, Bolverk, Börr, Brimer, Buri, Byleist, Eggther, Farbauti, Fjolvar, Gang, Geirrod, Gerdh, Gilling, Gjalp, Grid, Gunnlauth, Gymir, Hela, Helblindi, Hlebard, Hrauthung, Hreidmar, Hrimthurs, Hrod, Hrungnir, Hrym, Hymir, Hyndla, Hyrrokin, Ide, Jarnsaxa, Jötunn, Laufey, Leirbrimir, Logi, Mistblindi, Norfe, Odin, Orvandil, Skadi, Surt, Suttung, Thiassi, Thrym, Thurs, Tjatsi, Trivaldi, Trym, Utgarda-Loki, Vafthruthnir,
● The Dovre Giant
"Dovregubben", is an idiosyncratic and somewhat oversized troll. He is supposed to live in a cave inside Mount Dovre.
● Angus McAskill, "Big Boy"
Angus McAskill Cape Breton's famous giant, became a legend in his own time for his great feats of strength. Cape Breton historian Albert Almon writes that John McAskill himself confirmed that some taunting French sailors once bet his older brother he could not lift an anchor weighing well over a ton. Gripping the anchor, Angus McAskill not only raised it to his shoulder but walked a piece down the wharf with it.64 Also, The Canadian Encyclopedia reports that the giant "is known to have possessed prodigious strength and reputedly could lift 635 litre barrels and beams as long as 18 meters." In her Two Remarkable Giants, biographer Phyllis R. Blakeley recounts that he once "jogged down the street with a 300 pound barrel of pork under each arm to the admiring whistles of bystanders." Angus McAskill eventually reached a height of seven feet nine inches, with shoulders that measured forty-four inches broad and hands a foot long with palms eight inches wide. He weighed over four hundred pounds.
● Assam Giant
A human skeleton measuring eleven feet was found some years ago at Tura in Assam, near the border of East Pakistan, reports Peter Kolosimo
● Magellan in the year 1519
"When they had crossed the line, and the South pole appeared above the horizon, they held on their south course, and came upon the Main of Brasil, about that part of it which lies in twenty two degrees. They observed it to be all one continued tract of land, higher from the Cape St. Augustine, which is in this part of the country. Having made two degrees and an half more South latitude, they fell in with a country inhabited by a wild sort of people: They were of a prodigious stature, fierce and barbarous, made a horrible roaring noise, more like bulls than human creatures; and yet with all that mighty bulk were so nimble and light of foot that none of the Spaniards or Portuguese could over take them."
● In an account of the voyage of Sir Francis Drake
"In sailing forth from the river of Plate, in latitude 36 S. they came to a good bay, in which were several pretty islands; the admiral being on shore in one of these islands, the people came dancing and leaping about him, and were very free to trade; they were a comely strong-bodied people, very swift of foot, and of a brisk lively constitution; their faces were panted, and their apparel only a covering of the skins of beasts, with the fur on, about their waists, and something wreathed about their heads; they had bows an ell (an "ell" equals 2 1/2 feet) long, but no more than two arrows a piece: They seemed not altogether ignorant of marital discipline, as appeared by their method of ordering and ranging their men. They were the nation which Magellan called Patagons."
● In an account of a voyage round the world, by Sir Thomas Cavendish
"Sailing from Cape Frio, in the Brasils, they fell in upon the coast of America, in 47 d. 20 m. North (it should be South) latitude. They proceeded to Port Desire, in latitude 50. Here the Savages wounded two of the company with their arrows, which are made of cane, headed with flints. A wild and rude sort of creatures they were; and, as it seemed, of a gigantic race, the measure of one of their feet being 18 inches in length, which, reckoning by the usual proportion, will give about 7 feet and an half for their stature." Harris says that this agrees very exactly with the account given of them by Magellan, but in his epitome of Magellan's account he says that the head of one of his middle sized men reached but to the Patagonian's waist; which, supposing Magellan's man to be but 5 feet 6 inches high, will make the Patagonian 9 at least. He says, indeed, that Magellan gave them the name of Patagons, because their stature was five cubits, or seven feet six, but, if so, his own account is inconsistent with itself, neither has he told us in what language Patagon expresses this stature.
● Oliver Noort
The first Dutchman to attempt a voyage round the world, between the years 1598 and 1601, gives the account of the inhabitants of these parts "He went up the river at Port Desire, and going on shore, found beasts like stags and buffaloes, also some savages, who, he says, were tall portly men, painted and armed with short bows and arrows, that were headed with stone."
● Sebald de Weert
Another Dutchman, failed to the Streights of Magellan in the year 1598, and in his account are the following particulars. He detached two sloops to an island near the mouth of the Streights, to catch sea dogs. When these sloops came near the shore, they perceived seven canoes, with Savages on board, that were ten or eleven feet high, of a reddish colour, and with long hair. They are farther described as being naked, except one who had a sea dogs skin about his shoulders; and it is remarkable that de Weert was on this coast in May, which is there a winter month.
● A skeleton measuring 17 feet was discovered at Gargayan
● Bungisngis was a cave dwelling giant.
● Buringcantada was a house dwelling giant.
● Gisurab / Guisurab had a house in the forest.
● Ikugan was a giant with a tail.
● In 1575, when the Tartars invaded Poland, Jacobus Niezabilo-vius slew a warrior of enormous size who fought in their ranks. After the battle, Polish soldiers marveled that as he lay dead on the ground "his body was of so prodigious a bulk that... his carcass reached to the navel of any ordinary person standing by the side of it."
● Countess Lodoiska
The Countess Lodoiska, the Polish giantess, also showed great strength. Seven feet tall and weighing two hundred and seventy, she could with only one hand and without much strain lift one hundred and seventy pounds. In 1863, at the age of twenty, she exhibited at Saville House, Leicester-square. Writers described the Warsaw woman as "remarkably well formed," with a pleasing appearance.
● Martin Wierski
Dr. Browne reports in his Travels through Germany that one Martin Wierski, a Polander who stood a full eight feet tall, was on account of his great height invited to appear at the Court of Maximilian II, emperor of Germany, during the second half of the sixteenth century.
And many many others are reported!
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Historical North American Giants
1792 New York, Buffalo: Turner’s History of the Holland Purchase reports that 7 and 8 foot skeletons were found at an earthen fort in Orleans county with broad flat topped skulls.
1800 Ohio, Conneaut: Among the normal size skeletons found in the remains of mounds were found gigantic bones. Some of the skulls and jaws were large enough to fit over the head and face of a normal man
1821 Tennessee, White County: An ancient fortification contained skeletons of gigantic stature averaging at least 7 feet in length.
1825 Ohio Valley: David Cusick, a Tuscorora by birth, wrote that among the legends of the ancient people of the stock, there was a powerful tribe called Ronnongwetowanca. They were giants, and had a "considerable habitation." When the Great Spirit made the people, some of them became giants. After a time, and having endured the outrages of these giants, it is said that the people banded together, and through the final force of about 800 warriors, successfully annihilated the abhorrent Ronnongwetowanca. After that, it was said that there were no giants anywhere. This was supposed to have happened around 2,500 winters before Columbus discovered America, around 1000 BC.
1829 Ohio, Chesterville: In digging away a mound where a hotel was to be built, a large human skeleton was found, but no measurements were made. It is related that the jawbone was found to fit easily over that of a citizen of the village. The local physicians examined the cranium and found it proportionately large, with more teeth than the white race of today. The skeleton was taken to Mansfield, and has been lost sight of entirely.
1833 California, Lompock Rancho: Soldiers digging at Giant Lompock Rancho, California, discovered a male skeleton 12 feet tall. Carved shells, stone axes, and other artifacts surrounded the skeleton. The skeleton had double rows of upper and lower teeth. Unfortunately, this body was secretly buried when local Indians became upset about the remains.
1835 Illinois, Lake County: In the numerous mounds in the county, skeletons ranging between 7 and 8 feet are discovered.
1845 Virginia: A human jaw bone of great size was uncovered in a burial mound on which the teeth stood transversely in the jawbone.
1849 New York: From "Illustrations of the Ancient Monuments of Western New York" comes the report that an elliptical mound above near the Conewango Valley held eight big skeletons. A thigh bone was found to be 28” long. Exquisite stone points, enamelwork, and jewelry were found. Also discovered in the area were a number of other large skeletons one almost 9 feet in height.
1850 New York: From the History of Allegany County in 1879 a report that very large human bones were uncovered during excavation for the railroad
1851 New York: A skull rib bone, and shinbone were found that indicated the height to be over 8 feet tall.
1856 West Virginia, Wheeling: A human skeleton was discovered by labourers while ploughing a vineyard measuring almost 11 feet tall.
1858 Ohio, Vermillion Township: Skeletons of a race of beings much larger than the local inhabitants were discovered.
1870 Ohio: In Brush Creek Township a large mound contained skeltal remains of several humans up to nine feet tall. A large stone tablet with unknown insriptions similiar to Greek writing was also found.
1872 Ohio, Seneca Township: When the "Bates" mound was opened the remains of three skeletons, whose size would indicate they measured in life, at least, eight feet in height, were found. A remarkable feature of these remains was they had double teeth in front as well as in back of mouth and in both upper and lower jaws.
1873 Ohio, Seville: An Ohio Bicentennial Commission historical marker serves as a reminder that the Giants of Seville, Captain Martin Van Buren Bates and his wife, Anna Swan Bates, lived in the village of Seville in Medina County. Anna stood 7 feet 11 1/2 inches tall and weighed 413 pounds. Martin was 7 feet 9 inches tall and weighed 480 pounds.
1873 Washington DC: "The objects here collected which have not been given, or acquired by exchange, have been purchased for the use of the museum by order of the surgeon-general... There is a skeleton of a giant, who, in life, measured seven feet, prepared by Auzoux and mounted by Blanchêne's method, which, if I may use that term, is really a beauty. It is as white and clean as new fallen snow, and the brass joints and screws which keep it together are bright, and of the latest style and finish." From the article "The Army Medical Museum in Washington" by Louis Bagger, Appletons' Journal: A Magazine Of General LiteratureVolume 9, Issue 206
1875 West Virginia, Rivesville: Workmen constructing a bridge near the mouth of Paw Paw Creek uncovered three giant skeletons with strands of reddish hair clinging to the skulls. The skeletons had supported people approximately 8 feet tall.
1876 Wisconsin: Mounds were excavated containing a giant skull and vertebrae.
1877 Missouri, Kansas City: A giant skull was unearthed when mounds wore opened and giant man tracks belonging to humans 25 to 30 feet tall were discovered.
1877 Nevada, Eureka: Prospectors found a human leg bone and kneecap sticking out of solid rock. Doctors examined the remains and determined they were from a human being, and one that stood over 12 feet tall. The rock in which the bones were found was dated geologically to the Jurassic Period, over 185 million years old.
1878 Ohio, Ashtabula County: While excavating the ground for graves, bones were exhumed, which seemed to have belonged to a race of giants. A skull and jaw were found, which were of such size that the skull would fit easily over a large man’s head like a loose fitting helmet, even with the jaw in place. The number of these graves has been estimated to be between two and three thousand.
1879 Indiana, Brewersville: A skeleton almost ten feet tall was excavated from a mound.
1880 Ohio, Zanesville: A skeleton was reported to have been of enormous dimensions found in a clay coffin, with a sandstone slab containing hieroglyphics.
1880 Minnesota, Clearwater: Several giant skeletons were found with double rows of teeth.
1881 Ohio, Medina County: A jawbone of great size belonging to a human being was discovered, which contained eight jaw-teeth in each side, of enormous size; and the teeth stood transversely in the jawbone. It would pass over any man’s face with entire ease.
1882 West Virginia, Brewersville: The remains of a giant human in a sitting position with artifacts of stone and flint were discovered near White Day Creek.
1883 Minnesota, Warren: Ten skeletons of both sexes and of gigantic size were taken from a mound.
1883 North Dakota, Mandan: A cemetery of over 100 acres filled with bones of a giant race was discovered.
1883 Ohio, Marion County: During general construction projects in the area giant human skeletons were unearthed.
1883 Ohio, Brown County: In ancient settlement sites remains of giant humans among the fromer residents of normal stature.
1884 West Virginia, Kanawha County: A skeleton 7 feet 6 inches long was found in a massive stone structure that was likened to a temple chamber within a mound.
1885 Pennsylvania, Gasterville: A large mound contained a vault in which was found a skeleton measuring 7 feet 2 inches. Inscriptions were carved on the vault.
1886 Pennsylvania, Ellisburg: An 8 foot skeleton was discovered.
1886 New York: Dozens of human skeletons were discovered with oddly shaped skulls avearging 7 feet in height
1886 Illinois: A number of large skeletons were found in Logan County and artifacts showing a degree of advancement much higher that the native population had attained.
1887 Wisconsin, Le Crescent: Bones of giant humans were discovered in burial mounds.
1888 Ohio, Toledo: 20 skeletons were discovered with jaws and teeth twice as large as those of normal humans
1888 Minnesota, St. Paul: The remains of seven skeletons 7 to 8 feet tall were discovered.
1890 Tennessee, Roane County: A giant skeleton was discovered measuring over 7 feet tall.
1891 Illinois, Dunleith: Members of the Bureau of Ethnology of the Smithsonian Institution discovered a large skeleton between 7 and 8 feet tall.
1891 Arizona, Crittenden: A giant was unearthed and a huge stone coffin that had evidently once held the body of a man 12 feet tall. A carving on the granite case indicated that he had six toes.
1892 Ohio Proctorville: From the Ironton Register, “Where Proctorville now stands was one day part of a well paved city, but I think the greater part of it is now in the Ohio river [sic]. Only a few mounds, there; one of which was near the C. Wilgus mansion and contained a skeleton of a very large person, all double teeth, and sound, in a jaw bone that would go over the jaw with the flesh on.”
1894 Illinois, Pike County: In a conical shaped mound a skeleton over 7 feet tal was found.
1895 Ohio, Toledo: A mound held 20 skeletons, seated and facing east "twice as large as those of present day people."
1896 Minnesota, Lake Koronis: The skeleton of a huge man was uncovered. At Moose Island and Pine City, bones of other giants were found.
1897 Ohio, Jackson: A mound on a farm contained a giant skeleton.
1898 Ohio, Lake Erie Islands: Eight skeletons were found near the United States Coast Guard lighthouse, one measuring over seven feet in height.
1911 California, Lovelock Cave: An 8-foot tall, red-haired mummy discovered. This mummy eventually went to a fraternal lodge where it was used for "initiation purposes.
1918 Alton, Illinois: Robert Pershing Wadlow was born, educated and buried in Alton, Illinois. His height of 8' 11.1" qualifies him as the tallest person in history, as recorded in the Guinness Book of Records. At the time of his death he weighed 490 pounds. Robert was born on February 22, 1918, and weighed a normal eight pounds, six ounces. He drew attention to himself when at six months old, he weighed 30 pounds. A year later at 18 months, he weighed 62 pounds. He continued to grow at an astounding rate, reaching six feet, two inches and 195 pounds by the time he was eight years old.
1923 Arizona, Grand Canyon: The bodies of two petrified human beings 15 and 18 feet in height were discovered.
1931 Nevada, Lovelock: Large skeletons were found in the Humboldt lakebed. One measured 8 1/2 feet tall and appeared to have been wrapped in a gum-covered fabric similar to Egyptian mummies. Another skeleton was almost 10 feet long.
1932 New Mexico, White Sands: Supervisor of the Lincoln National Park, Ellis Wright, found human tracks in the gypsum rock 22 inches long and from 8 to 10 inches wide. The prints were human in origin due to the outline of the perfect prints coupled with a readily apparent instep.
1939 Nevada, Lovelock: A 7-foot 7-inch skeleton was found.
1947 California, Death Valley: The skeletons of nine foot tall humans were found.
1965 Kentucky, Holly Creek: Kenneth White dug a "perfectly preserved skeleton" from under a large rock ledge along Holly Creek which measured 8 feet, 9 inches in length when reassembled. He states, "the arms were extremely long and the hands were large. The skull was "30 inches in circumference. The eye and nose sockets were slits rather than cavities, and the area where the jawbone hinges to the skull was solid bone.
● Buffalo Bill Cody spoke of Sioux Indians who told about giants that ran down the buffalo.
● Some time in the late 19th century, giants with double rows of teeth, red hair, and skulls 3 to 6 times the size of normal humans were discovered on Catalina Island in California.
● The Algonquin have stories of giant, bearded men who first occupied their native lands.
● The Cherokee speak of giants who were twice as tall as the Cherokee and also about a great hunter of giant stature named Tsul´ kalu.
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When i was in school...many moons ago now, one of our history teachers had a keen interest in local history. He told us about a grave by the side of a road near where I lived that had a headstone and a footstone. These stones were markers for the top of its head and the bottom of its feet. The measurement inbetween was about 9ft.
I went to check if the stones were actually there....and they were.
Also...If you take a visit to "Speke Hall" in Liverpool, there is a lifesize portrait of a man (cant remember who he was) . this man was over 9 ft tall, not gangly tall, but built like a brick shithouse
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Read Numbers Leviticus and Deutoronomy in the Bible, frequent mention of them in there.
Seems they where the genetic decendants of the Demons illicite marriage to human females, also where the Greece and Roman legends of demi-gods came from.
Probably the reason the God of the old testament commanded the Hebrews to kill every man, woman and child they encountered in thier conquest of the Holy land, not because Yahweh was a muderous God but because he wanted his Earth clean of the demonic seed.
Might also explain the Alien/UFO interest in sexual experimentation and the collection of DNA from abductees, looking for the decendants of thier long lost children.
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When i was a child we used to visit a church which had huge effiges of the De La Beche family they were called the Aldworth giants standing all over 7ft tall.
Here is a link to more info on the Aldworth Giants http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/e...th-giants.html
BTW there is a Yew tree in the churchyard that is a thousand years old.
|19-05-2009, 01:39 PM||#12|
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La Beche Castle once stood on the site of what is now merely Beche Farm in Aldworth. This was the main residence of the De La Beche family, after whom it was named. They were a well-known family of medieval knights holding many high positions at court since at least 1260. Their grand monuments can still be seen in the church. Known as the "Aldworth Giants", they were possibly erected by the most influential member of the family, Lord Nicholas De La Beche in the 1340s. The most tangible link with the castle however is seal of the latter's sister-in-law that was dug up at the Farm.
Sir Robert De La Beche. He was knighted by King Edward I in 1278. The figure is in plated armour with a surcoat. He probably died in the very late 13th century. This is the first of the nine effigies, carved between 1300 and 1350.
Lady Joan De La Beche formerly De La Zouche, wife of Sir Philip. Her effigy, shorter than its recess, was moved to its present position out of the nave. Her costume is 14th century and her pillow is supported by angels.
Sir Philip De La Beche, second son of Sir Philip & Lady Joan. He was a Knight of the Shire (Member of Parliament) for Berkshire, but was incarcerated in Scarborough Castle in 1322, until pardoned by King Edward III, five years later. He was subsequently Sheriff of Berkshire & Oxfordshire in 1332-3. His effigy is fully armed, with the visor of his helmet raised. He died in 1327.
Sir Nicholas De La Beche, third son of Sir Philip & Lady Joan. He was made Constable of the Tower of London and custodian of King Edward III's eldest son, later known as the 'Black Prince'. He was granted leave by the King to castellate his manor of De La Beche in Aldworth and was co-founder of the south aisle chapel. He died in 1345.
Sir John De La Beche, eldest son of Sir Philip & Lady Joan. He was a Knight of the Shire (Member of Parliament) for Berkshire in 1316, and also Keeper of Winchester Castle. Comitted to the Tower in 1322 by King Edward II, he was eventually pardoned by King Edward III in 1327. He lies in the armour of a knight, with dogs and a lion at his feet. he died in 1328.
and Lady Isabella De La Beche formerly De Elmridge, wife of Sir John. She was co-founder of the south aisle chapel with Sir Nicholas, hence the position of her effigy. The canopies of the south aisle were engraved with patterns from her seal.
Sir Philip De La Beche son of Sir John. He inherited the family estates from his father and was Sheriff of Berkshire and Oxfordshire in 1313-14. He wears a mantle over embossed armour to signify that he was valet to King Edward II. Gaoled as a rebel, with his sons, in 1332, he was eventually pardoned by King Edward III. He is said to have been seven foot tall! He died in 1336.
Sir John De La Beche son of Sir Robert. He was a knight and his feet are resting on a lion. He died in 1310.
John De La Beche, second son of Sir John and Lady Isabella. He died in 1337. The effigy is recumbent and without armour, a dog at his feet. This figure is probably contemporary with the building of the south aisle.
The external arched recess for the effigy of 'John Everafraid,' now blocked.
The brass of Edmund De La Beche, youngest son of Sir Philip & Lady Joan, is now lost. He was the Archdeacon of Berkshire and died in 1364.
|19-05-2009, 02:24 PM||#13|
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Thank you for the info about the De la Beche family. I am intrested in where they originated from i.e Nordic. Are they classed as giants? they are all over 7ft!.
It does seem the family name died out but i think there must be more of them.
I have also been questioning my only family history and wondering if i am desended from this giant family. Hence my intrest in giants and this pparticuler family.
All of my family are beyond average height (women and men). I do reliase that most of Britain are descendents from the Vikings who where tall and my search may be futile.
My family name has changed over the decades and the pronouciation has too and i'm sure there are skelotans in the closet somewhere.
As they say if it feels right it may well be correct.... i feel looking into this family of giants feels right.
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