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Old 15-03-2009, 09:35 PM   #1741
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I get a bad gut feeling about Yoko Ono!
You should always trust your instincts...
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Old 15-03-2009, 09:35 PM   #1742
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^ Good instincts on Yoko! There are some people who think Yoko may have been involved in John's assassination. Mark David Chapman was almost certainly a mind-controlled, delta-programmed, Manchurian candidate Illuminati assassin-slave.
Many people seem to react to her in a negative way - and not just because of her singing!

There is something very cold about her.

The subject of handlers is very interesting, they must have gone through some sort of heavy mind control themselves to be able to be so wicked.
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Old 15-03-2009, 09:37 PM   #1743
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^ Plus, I read that the Beatles tended to mainly be friends w/ the people they knew BEFORE they made it. Yoko came on the scene in 1966. I don't know. I don't think under normal circumstances, John would have dropped his family for some weird Japanese woman who was a stranger. JMO
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Old 15-03-2009, 09:39 PM   #1744
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The subject of handlers is very interesting, they must have gone through some sort of heavy mind control themselves to be able to be so wicked.
Possibly, & I wouldn't argue that Illuminati are not mind-controlled at some level. However, I would submit that there are people who have difft souls from other people. They are dark. Maybe they're not inherently dark, but they choose to be dark. What I'm saying is that people can be wicked w/out being mind-controlled. JMO
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Old 15-03-2009, 09:42 PM   #1745
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Possibly, & I wouldn't argue that Illuminati are not mind-controlled at some level. However, I would submit that there are people who have difft souls from other people. They are dark. Maybe they're not inherently dark, but they choose to be dark. What I'm saying is that people can be wicked w/out being mind-controlled. JMO
I know what you are saying, but people must be selected on their ability to be able to do such dark work.

Correct me if I am wrong, but many handlers come from quite well to do families with ties to the elite, could they have been primed over the years for such a role?
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I know what you are saying, but people must be selected on their ability to be able to do such dark work.

Correct me if I am wrong, but many handlers come from quite well to do families with ties to the elite, could they have been primed over the years for such a role?
I think you may have a point here... They must be trained from early on.
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Mark David Chapman was almost certainly a mind-controlled, delta-programmed, Manchurian candidate Illuminati assassin-slave.
I agree on that!
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I agree ! This is a great thread. I hope that it's allowed to continue in a friendly and educational manner.
Let's hope it stays this way... I'm so glad we're doing so well
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I think you may have a point here... They must be trained from early on.
Idk, I think they must go through some sort of process to desensitize them to the pain that they must cause to their victims/slaves, from what I understand you must break someone before you can control them?

Maybe some of these handlers are also victims.

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^ Plus, I read that the Beatles tended to mainly be friends w/ the people they knew BEFORE they made it. Yoko came on the scene in 1966. I don't know. I don't think under normal circumstances, John would have dropped his family for some weird Japanese woman who was a stranger. JMO
Yoko & John have many similarities to Trudie & Sting. When Trudie came into the picture Sting left his wife (who was more beautiful than Trudie btw) and family.
AND, just like with the Beatles, the band then split...

Coincidence? I think not...
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Idk, I think they must go through some sort of process to desensitize them to the pain that they must cause to their victims/slaves, from what I understand you must break someone before you can control them?

Maybe some of these handlers are also victims.
Oh, absolutely they are, many of them.
That's why I, in the beginning of my first handler post, wrote that the handler's are also themselves being controlled - by the real puppeteers, the power behind the power...
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All that everyone is writing about handlers is ringing true to me. I think that since many of them come from elite families, they must be desensitized from very young.
Now I have to wonder if Linda McCartney was Faul's handler. I have read that she went to the same elite boarding school as Yoko, at the same time as her.
I find it strange that the Beatles went from not having their woman under foot at the studio, to having Linda & Yoko up their butts while they were trying to record. I never thought of it before, but it does make sense that Yoko & Linda could've been friends.
I do know that when I was child I instinctively hated them for breaking up the band. As if they were in on it together...
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Correct me if I am wrong, but many handlers come from quite well to do families with ties to the elite, could they have been primed over the years for such a role?
Sure. I would expect that they come from Illuminati families. I have read about horrible rituals the Illuminati do, such as sacrificing & even eating babies.
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Now I have to wonder if Linda McCartney was Faul's handler. I have read that she went to the same elite boarding school as Yoko, at the same time as her.
That would not surprise me. I suspect Jane Asher was also a handler. There was something really weird about that situation w/ Paul. Dr. Asher, Jane's father, was a psychiatrist & Illuminati (was he at the Tavistock Institute?). And why would Paul go live w/ them? Do rich & famous rockstars normally go live w/ their girlfriend's families? Ok, that is just bizarre to me.

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I find it strange that the Beatles went from not having their woman under foot at the studio, to having Linda & Yoko up their butts while they were trying to record. I never thought of it before, but it does make sense that Yoko & Linda could've been friends.
LOL! Yeah, John certainly became p-whipped. I can't imagine John from the early days being like that. Oh, & I wouldn't be surprised if Linda & Yoko knew each other. There's a small clique of Illuminati families, right?

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Sure. I would expect that they come from Illuminati families. I have read about horrible rituals the Illuminati do, such as sacrificing & even eating babies.
I have been talking to my boyfriend about this recently, he is not convinced, but the more I think about this and learn about this, the more it makes sense.

I don't want to belive this sort of thing goes on, but my intuition tells me it does.

I look at pictures of Paris Hilton, her eyes are dead, there is something not right about her. Maybe she was Nicol Richies handler, am I looking in to this too much?

It is like she was stepforded at the age of about 12 and has always been like this, idk.
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I don't want to belive this sort of thing goes on, but my intuition tells me it does.
Yeah, no one really wants to believe it. Still, I'd rather know.

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I look at pictures of Paris Hilton, her eyes are dead, there is something not right about her. Maybe she was Nicol Richies handler, am I looking in to this too much?
Paris Hilton is most def Illuminati. She could be a beta-programmed sex slave. She could also be a clone/synthetic/organic robotoid. Who the hell knows anymore???
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I spent most of this sunday reading the whole thread (all the pages, as I have a cold and wasn't planning on going outside anyway)
Didn't know I would get this far, but wow, it has been a very interesting read.

A big thank you to -all- the contributors to this thread, especially Lostworld.
Mila, thank you so much for reading this whole thread (wow!) and very welcome here

When I started the thread I didn't know at all what to expect, but I knew I wanted to keep the debate going and keep the thread alive. I'm so glad that all you good people find it & I'm greatful to all of those that have contributed to its success!
We all learn from eachother, and get new inputs every day.

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I don't know what to think about everything, but it reminded me of the planes-no planes discussion, which doesn't have to be a discussion: -we know- that something is not right, that something is very, very wrong with these people. So, if they are clones, robotoids, synth. humans or heavily mind-controlled with plastic surgery, we don't/won't know (maybe we will know once...) but we do know that something is not right. It doesn't need much research to realise that.
I agree. What unites us is that we all have this same feeling that something's just not right...

And yes, we don't know but it's good to put the suspicions that we have out in the open I think. We can only speculate though...

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It's very-very disturbing to read about all this mind-control, it makes you sick to your stomach and it should, because it's horrific. It reminded me of reading that chapter about satanism and childsacrifice in "The biggest secret". And it's the feeling I have after reading Matthew Delooze's articles on celebrity worshipping...
Yes it IS. And even if we sometimes joke about it, we always have to remember that many of these people truly are victims too.

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After reading about many other topics, I only started reading about MK a few months ago and read the blogs
-mkculture and -pseudoccultmedia and now this thread and I realise that, once you have 'awakened', there's no turning back. You see more than you did before, you see it faster and you feel empowered as wel as weakened sometimes, because there's no one to talk to about this who won't say you're crazy.
Yes, absolutely. It's like a whole different world. Most people will never understand it, or get it or even have to. They just live in their own small world. I think many of us are alone with all this knowledge, and still around us we have friends and family. But with some people there's just no hope. They will not see, they will never get it and it's really just a waste of good energy I think. Either they will have their own awakening or they won't.

And yes, it really destroys so much. I love music but can't enjoy it as much as I used to. Now I more appreciate the silence...
Cause you know what you know and it's always with you. Like you say, there really is no turning back. Just like the Matrix

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About the faces of these celebrities and their hollow/cold eyes: It's not only celebrities, I have often wondered about people I know, who I don't like to be around, who have these cold eyes and don't seem to feel bad at all by some painful things they have caused. Sometimes people change radically within months, when they get a better position at their jobs, get more succesful....as if they have -maybe-really turned to the dark side, so to speak. I feel that cold energy. You see that 'love has left their heart', that they are paying a price, don't know how else to put it! And they are no doubles, I guess...!(unless that former colleague with the cold energy is a clone who replaced the nicer principal of the school I worked at!!)
This has happened to me too. I really think at some point some people get so darkened that they get sold to the other side somehow. I fought for my ex for many years, and so badly wanted him to wake up from his shallow, ignorant and cold world but it never happened. Now he's completly gone and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it. He could change mood from minute to minute though, and his eyes could just turn totally black and cold. Very scary when you see it up close, and when it's someone you used to care about or even love...

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Keep up the good and hard work, the information is much appreciated.

Mila
Thanks Mila, I hope you stick around
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True, true, and true ! So many of these young starlets from famous/rich families seem to be completely off ! They're total sex objects in every way.
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A very accurate representation of how things really work, IMO
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Yoko Ono

Many of us believe that Yoko Ono in fact was John Lennon's handler.
Obsessive "love" is always suspicious too...




In 1956, she married composer Toshi Ichiyanagi. They divorced in 1962 after living apart for several years. On November 28 that same year, Ono married American Anthony Cox. Cox was a jazz musician, film producer and art promoter. He had heard of Ono in New York and tracked her down to a mental institution in Japan, where her family had placed her following a suicide attempt. Ono had neglected to finalize her divorce from Ichiyanagi, so their marriage was annulled on March 1, 1963 and Cox and Ono married on June 6. Their daughter, Kyoko Chan Cox, was born on August 8, 1963.

Hmm, very interesting. Married on 06 06 1963= 666!
Also the year itself 1963 = 3x6 = 19 666





The marriage quickly fell apart (as observers describe Tony and Ono threatening each other with kitchen knives) but the Coxes stayed together for the sake of their joint career.

In the early years of this marriage, Ono left most of Kyoko's parenting to Cox while she pursued her art full-time and Tony managed publicity.


Ono first met John Lennon when he visited a preview of an exhibition of Ono's at the Indica Gallery in London on November 9, 1966.

Again, very interesting date. 11, 9, 1966. We all know that the number 9 and 11 are of importance (9/11!) within the Illuminati...
It's seems that Yoko was very aware of numerology



Lennon's first personal encounter with Ono involved her passing him a card that read simply "Breathe". A ladder leading up to a black canvas with a spyglass on a chain allowing John to read the word "Yes" written on the canvas along with a real apple displayed with a card reading "APPLE." When John was told that the price of the apple was £200 (approximately £2300 or $4600 in 2007 money), he later reported that he thought "This is a joke, this is pretty funny".[8] Another display was a white board with nails in it with a sign inviting visitors to hammer a nail into its surface. Since the show was not beginning until the following day, Ono refused to allow Lennon to hammer in a nail. The gallery owner whisked her away, saying, "Don't you know who that is? He's a millionaire!" (Ono later claimed not to know who John Lennon or The Beatles were, and there is no record proving otherwise.) Upon returning to John, she said he could hammer in a nail for five shillings. Lennon replied, "I'll give you an imaginary five shillings if you let me hammer in an imaginary nail".[9] They began an affair approximately two years later, eventually resulting in Lennon divorcing his first wife, Cynthia Lennon.

After she divorced Cox for John Lennon on February 2, 1969, Ono and Cox engaged in a bitter legal battle for custody of Kyoko, which resulted in Ono being awarded full custody. However, in 1971, Cox disappeared with eight-year-old Kyoko, in violation of the custody order. Cox subsequently became a Christian and raised Kyoko in a Christian group known as the Church of the Living Word (or "the Walk"). Cox left the group with Kyoko in 1977. Living an underground existence, Cox changed the girl's name to Rosemary.
(Wikipedia)

(remember Rosemary's baby...)







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Yoko Ono was born into power and wealth at 8:30 AM Tokyo time..on a snowy February 18, 1933 to her parents, Eisuke Ono and Isoko Yasuda Ono. Yoko was born at her great-grandmother's palatial estate overlooking Tokyo, with the emperor's compound located nearby. A staff of thirty servants attended to the family's every need.

What would she have in common with a scouser like John ? They came from two different worlds. She was DEFINITELY his handler.
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