Stepford wives

[dawnbreak]

Hi all...........

I hope the infighting here could stop coz it is a good thread and everyone posting should be welcomed.

lady gaga is just as relevant as anyone else, she is after all one of the current puppets.

anyway i wanted to comment on Nicolas Roeg and David Lynch

david lynch has made some seriously weird films, blue velvet having an underlying theme of 'mk' and to many his work is distrubing and surreal.

He also did the mulaholland drive movie which is named after a street in the laurel canyon district, famous for it being the home of the first 'MK' studios.

If people want to see how far back the media influence goes check out Laurel canynon and the 'bundy drive boys' (wc fields, john barrymore et al)

Strange that David Lynch would give a 'nod' to a street within an area notrious with strange deaths, mind control experiments by the us govt and home of many famous people with questionable histories

Nicholas Roeg has the same sort of feel about alot of his movies.

As well as 'the man who fell to earth' starring Bowie ...he also directed Performance staring mike jagger .......both bowie and jagger are well known for their dabbles with religion and the occult (and walking left path shall we say at times)

To get the two biggest music 'hero's of the time to star in your films can not be that easy

But Nicolas Roeg obviously didn't want to exclude the american fans (who might not be drawn to bowie or jagger) and went onto to cast Art Garfunkel in a tuely disrubing movie about human relationships named 'Bad Timing'

[clive w]

Every time I visit this fuckin thread I must see wakeuptime´s ugly anime-avatar and her bullshit-teacher-posts + people who get pissed off by her.
I DON´T WANT TO READ SHIT.

It fuckin sucks. Please stop this shit. Please leave, wakeuptime.

Thanks!

[wakeuptime]

Originally Posted by dawnbreak

lady gaga is just as relevant as anyone else, she is after all one of the current puppets.

True but she's been discussed to death here and on the GaGa thread, and a video of her acting kooky has nothing to do with our topic. Time to raise the level a bit.

david lynch has made some seriously weird films, blue velvet having an underlying theme of 'mk' and to many his work is distrubing and surreal.

Blue Velvet's MK themes are blatant, as I mentioned in an earlier post. Rosellini's character appears to be an MK victim with Hopper her handler (and Hopper apparently said in real life, "I am Frank,"; an odd comment unless he was a handler. But who knows, I won't guess.). Plus she's a performer which is relevant to what we're discussing here.

I've just listened to an Icke interview where he said many performers and American sports figures are MKed. Chances are Tiger Wood's lapses are linked with his mind control. Perhaps not but I suspect he's one of the controlled. Many say he plays golf like a robot, no emotion.

Strange that David Lynch would give a 'nod' to a street within an area notrious with strange deaths, mind control experiments by the us govt and home of many famous people with questionable histories

You mean Mullholland Drive? I'm trying to remember where the Manson murders were. I don't know if it was Mullholland. But those canyon roads all link together in LA. lol!

Nicholas Roeg has the same sort of feel about alot of his movies.

As well as 'the man who fell to earth' starring Bowie ...he also directed Performance staring mike jagger .......both bowie and jagger are well known for their dabbles with religion and the occult (and walking left path shall we say at times)

Good point about Jagger. He's got Sympathy for the Devil as we know.

But Nicolas Roeg obviously didn't want to exclude the american fans (who might not be drawn to bowie or jagger) and went onto to cast Art Garfunkel in a tuely disrubing movie about human relationships named 'Bad Timing'

I thought about Bad Timing --- a pretty bad movie, to be honest --- but can't tie it in. Any thoughts?

Another Roeg film was Walkabout. A father takes his two kids out into the Australian outback and kills himself, so they must fend for themselves. An aborigine boy takes them in and falls in love with the girl. At the end she goes back to the city.

What was the deeper theme? The character, played by Jenny Agutter, was thinking back to her natural life at the end, longingly. Was Roeg hinting at our natural roots and how we've lost nature (our nature). Possible.




And, Clive, thanks for your imput. I'll always remember the day you posted a picture of a woman with a rifle in her mouth....just as we were discussing serious subjects.

So I don't take you seriously, man. Sorry.

[dawnbreak]

laurel canyon ..where mulholland drive is (its a main street in the area) is near where sharon tate was mudered but not directly in the area.

It is home of the 'wonderland killings' though. Wonerland is also a 'region' within laurel canyon.

the wonderland killings implicted johnny holmes and one of the crosby stills and nash members

walkabout as a film does raise some questionable issues, it however like the man who fell to earth where novels prior to Roeg diecting them

bad tming is an interesting film and one deeply conected with 'mind control'

[rebelrobot]

This is probably off -topic (sorry ! ) , but one of Donald Sutherland's sons is named Roeg after Daddy's good friend Nic. Where does this put the Sutherlands on the MK spectrum ? - considering Keifer is normally to be found in some bar with his pants down , I don't see him as a mind control victim , unless his programming is constantly breaking down. I suppose he was part of that Corey Haim generation , Lost Boys and all that .

[noctua]

Often, I guess because a lot of the posters here are from the Western Hemisphere, I find that the majority of posts are slanted in that cultural direction. I presume it is also because on-line media etc. is also biased that way.

It got me thinking about what could be thought of as the original Stepford Wife in the classic sense.....a.k.a. the Japanese Geisha.

I mean, that has to be a classic case of programming and MK, right ?

So I have been having a look on-line (not having much access to books at the moment) and am struggling to find any decent material about it, with the exception of on-line reviews of that film Memoirs of a Geisha.

Does anyone have any decent material about the subject ? I mean, it's an age old custom, and from my uninformed opinion, there must be information out there somewhere !

[armoured_amazon]

I see Wakeuptime is still being a sphincter; "No celebrity talk!" (then proceeds to make long posts about celebrities). STFU, we'll post what we want. Everything you've posted in the past few pages, pumping yourself up as intelligentsia is already in the thread. Which you'd know if you bothered to look.

[wakeuptime]

Originally Posted by rebelrobot

This is probably off -topic (sorry ! ) , but one of Donald Sutherland's sons is named Roeg after Daddy's good friend Nic. Where does this put the Sutherlands on the MK spectrum ? - considering Keifer is normally to be found in some bar with his pants down , I don't see him as a mind control victim , unless his programming is constantly breaking down. I suppose he was part of that Corey Haim generation , Lost Boys and all that .

Rebelrobot, you're completely on topic and thanks for your ongoing contribution.

Icke talks about the Sutherland drug runners as being in the heart of the control grid. Isn't a Sutherland head of BP oil? Peter I believe. Donald Sutherland and Keifer are certainly MK victims, IMO. I don't think you get into movies without some level of programming. A working Hollywood actor told me you need a "private invitation" to get into movies. I suspect the invitation has MK written on it.

Have you all seen the great article posted on Icke's news board today? It's about various celebrities coming out and exposing the sickness, MKUltra, Monarch programing and general rot in Hollywood. Anna Nicole Smith is shown in one video switching altars. A must read/view for serious MK Hollywood control seekers.

Here's the opening:

Throughout my articles, I discuss many dark aspects of the entertainment industry. Some of these aspects are so awful and improbable to the average reader that they become hard to believe, especially when the information comes from an anonymous blogger such as myself. Some actual celebrities have however gone on record with some truths on the industry. Those rare outbreaks are rarely publicized but, they are available online. So, for this article, I’m letting the insiders do the talking. Who is better placed to talk about the entertainment business than the entertainers themselves, those who have experienced first hand all facets of the business?

Although most artists will not use the terms “mind control” or “occult initiation,” they are explaining, in their own words, the strange realities they are witnessing. These are some videos I’ve found. I hope they’ll work for everyone.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3925

Its a powerhouse of information.


Btw, Armoured Amazon, we've all heard enough of your foul mouth and pointless comments. Please go join your buddy Emerald and her little clan of gossip lovers. Leave us alone.

[wakeuptime]

Originally Posted by noctua

It got me thinking about what could be thought of as the original Stepford Wife in the classic sense.....a.k.a. the Japanese Geisha.

I mean, that has to be a classic case of programming and MK, right ?

Excellent point, Noctua. I don't know anything about them but they were there to entertain and serve the power elite, weren't they? Icke says the underground reptilian power is probably located in Asia.....so no doubt it has a strong impact on those societies as well.

If you have more info on it please let us know. Wasn't there a bestseller recently about Geishas?

[astrochicken]

Originally Posted by clive w

Every time I visit this fuckin thread I must see wakeuptime´s ugly anime-avatar and her bullshit-teacher-posts + people who get pissed off by her.
I DON´T WANT TO READ SHIT.

It fuckin sucks. Please stop this shit. Please leave, wakeuptime.

Thanks!

+1

I see Wakeuptime is still being a sphincter; "No celebrity talk!" (then proceeds to make long posts about celebrities). STFU, we'll post what we want. Everything you've posted in the past few pages, pumping yourself up as intelligentsia is already in the thread. Which you'd know if you bothered to look.

+1



She won't leave.. "schwer vom Begriff" springs to mind.

[armoured_amazon]

Originally Posted by astrochicken

She won't leave.. "schwer vom Begriff" springs to mind.

Ha totally. She's cracked.

[shutupwoman]

I've been reading the thread, and I noticed that everybody's getting angry about 'wakeuptime'... Why are you anwsering to her? She is obviously annoying you on purpose. Who is she to dictate what you can stick to the thread or not? Obviously she has some power over you, because you won't post unless she leaves. Why don't you ignore her and stick the shit out of celebrity gossip on the thread, and watch her getting angrier and angrier until you brake her will (because it is what she is trying to do to you, and she deserves to be stopped)?

Basically the same thing is happening with the media. It's called polarisation. They present you the news that is ment to make you mad, and it does. It can make you happy also, but it still takes your precious energy away. When the fact is, you don't have to answer, you don't have to conform, you don't have to fight it. You can just tune it out doing what you want to do. It can still exist, but it doesn't have to be relevant anymore, and it certanly doesn't have to dissappear for you to continue on with your lives and interests.

[shutupwoman]

If 'wakeuptime' wants to act all fancy-pants, she sould go and have some tea with her pinky sticking out and embrace the ignorance it comes with.

There is some important information that is being hidden in 'everyday events'. Also, something that seems vital in containig important information, can be debunked as benig completely ordinary. And if a person doesn't realise that, it is obviously not a very smart specimen.

Also, celebrity carrers are developing everyday, and new elements will soon be added because the public is starting to notice the patterns. The game is not over yet, and with time, it will develope more and more sophysticated methods that you won't notice, because of some stupid persons egotrip. So, post away whatever you want and have fun!

[dawnbreak]

lol............i was happy to give wakeuptime the benefit of the doubt ....perhaps she was trying to focus people .........


I like everyone else doesn't want to be patronised, no-body is an authority on the subject......we only comment on what we think

I like the posts on lady gaga, katie holmes et al as much as any others, there is room for eveyone's views and they are all valid and relevant.

[shutupwoman]

Originally Posted by dawnbreak

lol............i was happy to give wakeuptime the benefit of the doubt ....perhaps she was trying to focus people .........


I like everyone else doesn't want to be patronised, no-body is an authority on the subject......we only comment on what we think

I like the posts on lady gaga, katie holmes et al as much as any others, there is room for eveyone's views and they are all valid and relevant.

If you don't appreciate variety and build walls around your views, you are not going to get anywhere. People do it everyday in their real lives and miss out on 98% of things that are going on around them. That behaviour is considered to be normal and you might fall into a trap that, when somebody is forcing you to act like that, they have good intentions. Well, they don't. People can't stand smebody who realises and knows more than them because, subconciously they know that they are the ones who are setting their own limitations, they dedicated their entire lives to that, and they want you to stop pulling them out of their comfort zone. They are afraid to know more. But the truth is, the more you know, the less afraid you are. Does that make sense?

Excuse my grammar, I'm not english.

[armoured_amazon]

Originally Posted by shutupwoman

I've been reading the thread, and I noticed that everybody's getting angry about 'wakeuptime'... Why are you anwsering to her? She is obviously annoying you on purpose. Who is she to dictate what you can stick to the thread or not? Obviously she has some power over you, because you won't post unless she leaves. Why don't you ignore her and stick the shit out of celebrity gossip on the thread, and watch her getting angrier and angrier until you brake her will (because it is what she is trying to do to you, and she deserves to be stopped)?

Basically the same thing is happening with the media. It's called polarisation. They present you the news that is ment to make you mad, and it does. It can make you happy also, but it still takes your precious energy away. When the fact is, you don't have to answer, you don't have to conform, you don't have to fight it. You can just tune it out doing what you want to do. It can still exist, but it doesn't have to be relevant anymore, and it certanly doesn't have to dissappear for you to continue on with your lives and interests.

Originally Posted by shutupwoman

If 'wakeuptime' wants to act all fancy-pants, she sould go and have some tea with her pinky sticking out and embrace the ignorance it comes with.

There is some important information that is being hidden in 'everyday events'. Also, something that seems vital in containig important information, can be debunked as benig completely ordinary. And if a person doesn't realise that, it is obviously not a very smart specimen.

Also, celebrity carrers are developing everyday, and new elements will soon be added because the public is starting to notice the patterns. The game is not over yet, and with time, it will develope more and more sophysticated methods that you won't notice, because of some stupid persons egotrip. So, post away whatever you want and have fun!

Indeed, excellent points! And considering the first post has celebrities in it, it follows that others will, too. As shutupwoman (lol) posted, the media has a HUGE control over the mass public, thus it makes sense they would use celebrities to further their agenda & control them. We could all talk about Joe Bloggs who was MKed, but we wouldn't be able to find info about him on the internet. As for MKing itself, and Stepfording, the techniques have already been covered in the thread, but wakeuptime wants us to quote them ad finitum, 'cause it makes everyone look clever.

[shutupwoman]

At the end, you will see 'wakeuptime' reacting to things that bruise her ego or her intelligence, while completely ignoring advice that might really wake her up. That is a sure sign that the person is not to be tursted, or looked up at as a role-model. You can believe you are 'enlightened' but this can also be a new role that the ego has taken on. That means you are not there yet, and that could also be your biggest obstacle. So do not fall into the trap of thinking that, nor should you react to ego-gurus, especially the ones who are forcing you to wake up, but are sound asleep themselves.

Sorry for the offtopic, but I find her nickname and avatar hillarious.

[dawnbreak]

Originally Posted by shutupwoman

If you don't appreciate variety and build walls around your views, you are not going to get anywhere. People do it everyday in their real lives and miss out on 98% of things that are going on around them. That behaviour is considered to be normal and you might fall into a trap that, when somebody is forcing you to act like that, they have good intentions. Well, they don't. People can't stand smebody who realises and knows more than them because, subconciously they know that they are the ones who are setting their own limitations, they dedicated their entire lives to that, and they want you to stop pulling them out of their comfort zone. They are afraid to know more. But the truth is, the more you know, the less afraid you are. Does that make sense?

Excuse my grammar, I'm not english.

wtf...........you are now behaving like the person you are critizing.

grow up

[shutupwoman]

I am a woman, and the nickname has a meaning for me, that's why I chose it. What was once a threat is just a silly joke now. I hope I don't offend anybody.

So, I'll just shut up now, and stop going offtopic. If I find some interesting celebrity gossip, I'll stick it on the thread, because I FUCKING CAN. And so can you. You have to start breaking imaginary rules that our world consists of, so why not start on a forum.

[wakeuptime]

I see the trolls have rolled in. Must have pressed a sensitive button. Didn't like the video about celebrities revealing Hollywood secrets? A bit too important for you, huh, our little resident troll gangs (new members like Shut up woman ---- is that you Clive? --- included).

Thus I'll press on. and they're going to HATE this one.

The Sutherland control grid.

First we have Peter Sutherland, head of BP Oil, those lovely people who brought us the oil disaster.




He works the Bilderberg Group/Oil side while his kissing cousins Donald and Keifer handle Hollywood.

Lovely Keifer is busy mind controlling the masses that torturing kids is good and that's what needs to be done. No wonder when you see who he worships.




The Sutherland clan opens up a whole can of worms. They are thoroughly inside the control grid, a bunch of possessed hybrids serving the system IMO.

24 sold the terrorist threat more than any other TV show. The boogey man's going to get us, right Keifer? Love that the one eye symbolism.

And 24 = 2 + 4 = 6 ah, their favorite number




Now go ahead shill team, attack me to your hearts content. You'lre only showing all of us exactly who you are. You can bring in all the new shills you want but you always reveal yourselves. Its your nature, I guess. Pity.