Stepford wives

[wakeuptime]

Originally Posted by emerald

So do u, darling, and so are u. But, hey, let me correct u: I'm a mistress of delusion. I hope u are satisfied now.

I stick to my original. You're a master Sir Em.

[clive w]

Originally Posted by emerald

New haircut&new handler for JANET? Oh, poor woman...

http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/ar...et_jackson.php

The guy is looking like a really smooth criminal. :/
And Janetīs face says everything.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-a...a-multiple.htm

[glacidtek]

Originally Posted by emerald

New haircut&new handler for JANET? Oh, poor woman...

http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/ar...et_jackson.php

Just wondering what your take on who handles the handlers?

And who handles the handlers handlers?

If this is mind control, it has a top down structure, with fewer and fewer handlers the higher up you go.

There is a lot of energy spent her discussing celebritys, but that is merely social comentary, and actualy fuel to the fire.

So.... we have analysed, researched and diseminated the obvious public level.....

Who controls the next level?

[emerald]

Is there a next level yet?

[glacidtek]

by most of the theorys discussed here... YES, there must be.

if these stars are being manipulated by handlers, there must be a higher level... and a higher level than that.

its the basics of any control structure: TOP-DOWN, with fewer on each level the higher you go.

these handlers are not manipulating their charges for their own benefit are they?that would blow all the theorys out of the water??????

so.... if the handlers are not autonimuos, and are in trun being controlled themselves.... it begs the question:

who handles the handlers handlers?

[emerald]

The handlers of them all, what to say... Dont we always mention alien forces who are mostly to blame for everything? Then perhaps this must be (IMO).

[glacidtek]

Alien forces manipulating human celebrity culture.

Thats the best you can come up with?

Ok then, lets have that as a working theory.....

please elucidate with your evidence and proof.

[emerald]

Originally Posted by glacidtek

Alien forces manipulating human celebrity culture.

Thats the best you can come up with?

Ok then, lets have that as a working theory.....

please elucidate with your evidence and proof.

I dont think I can. How I came to that conclusion? Also reading posts on this site, there are plenty of them. But of course, its not really necessary that alien forces should be involved. As I mentioned previously this is just my opinion.

[glacidtek]

Cool, no probs.... I'm just trying to elevate this thread, and go beyond the media comentary, and start asking questions about the source of the manipulation.

Its almost as bad as overhearing converations at work discussing Cheryl Coles new hairdo....... I think, and hope we can all do a little better than that.

thank you.

[wakeuptime]

Originally Posted by glacidtek

Cool, no probs.... I'm just trying to elevate this thread, and go beyond the media comentary, and start asking questions about the source of the manipulation.

Its almost as bad as overhearing converations at work discussing Cheryl Coles new hairdo....... I think, and hope we can all do a little better than that.

thank you.

Thank you, Glacidtek, for trying to raise the level.

This thread started as a serious discussion of MK and has dwindled into celeb gossip. Roseanne saying she's got a chip in her head controlled by the CIA (an early post) is no joke and we shouldn't just assume she's nuts. She says Oprah controls her chip. Whether you believe Roseanne or not the subject deserves scrutiny.

There are manipulators behind the scenes and, yes, many stars are mind controlled probably from birth to serve the system.

When I look at Laura Branigan --- who could have been sacrificed for failing programming as Cathy O'Brien says government sex slaves often were --- I see a disturbed person. In the Gloria vid I just posted she seems to snap between performance mode and buried anger. Her "fun" seems a facade on the verge of breaking.

This is the reality we're talking about here and although we no longer discuss the Beatles, the story of Paul's replacement ties in as a major domino. Once that story breaks widely, the system knows they'll be in deeper trouble than they already are.

When you consider how important mass mind control is (a great way to keep the sheep sleeping) you see why the manipulators need to control mass media and the stars who people it.

Em and her little circle like to prattle on about nonsense but the topic of MK is a deep one and deserves genuine study.

[emerald]

"Em and her little circle like to prattle on about nonsense but the topic of MK is a deep one and deserves genuine study."

The final proof that u have serious mental problems. Period.

[glacidtek]

I like your signature Emerald - it says a lot if you look a little deeper.

I have followed this thread from the start, and have made adhoc contributions - some of which were taken on board, others where I have been shot down.

Thats cool - its all conjecture realy..... in the end there is no definative proof, and its all assumptions based on our own personal points of view.

I dont give any of my energy over to celebrity culture - it doesnt interest me.

I am however very interested in how the public can be manipulated through culture.

I do feel this thread has become another, alternative version of Heat Magazine, and celebrity spotting.

I think we are being manipulated here.... but its a double bluff.

Popstars and celebs... and their stylists, know that being a little controversial - using known triggers, signs, symbols and occult references will stick in the public mind - conciously or subconciously.

This folks, is a marketing ploy...... the public fall for it subconciously..... and the researchers, comentators and conspiracy theorists (like us) fall for it conciously.

In the end.... we feed them our energy - either way.

[lostworld]

Originally Posted by glacidtek

Just wondering what your take on who handles the handlers?

And who handles the handlers handlers?

If this is mind control, it has a top down structure, with fewer and fewer handlers the higher up you go.

There is a lot of energy spent her discussing celebritys, but that is merely social comentary, and actualy fuel to the fire.

So.... we have analysed, researched and diseminated the obvious public level.....

Who controls the next level?

Thanks glacidtek for trying to bring the discussion forward

I think that you answer your own question though:

Originally Posted by glacidtek

if these stars are being manipulated by handlers, there must be a higher level... and a higher level than that.

its the basics of any control structure: TOP-DOWN, with fewer on each level the higher you go.

I absolutely agree with this. A control structure with several levels. (just look at the Freemasons!)
Then who/what is where and how all the pieces fit together is something we're still trying to figure out.
At least those of us who are serious about this...

We know about the Illuminati bloodlines/the bloodlines of the Elite who supposedly control the world:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/index.htm

Whatever "partners" these dynasties have, and on which level, we can only speculate. I believe though that there are some major players here that are more or less unknown to the public.

[lostworld]

Originally Posted by glacidtek

This folks, is a marketing ploy...... the public fall for it subconciously..... and the researchers, comentators and conspiracy theorists (like us) fall for it conciously.

In the end.... we feed them our energy - either way.

I don't think that thorough posts that explain the symbolism etc is feeding any energy to the evil powers.
We must be able to explain the symbolism and the agenda behind it, as long as it's done in an educative way.

And, you should be able to post about symbolism and MK'd celebrities without turning it all into celebrity gossip.
As long as you explain what you're posting and why/the relevance.

I understand the crititicism though and I completly agree.
It is an open forum though so people will post whatever they want, and unfortunately there are those who don't put that much time and effort behind their posts as others do...
There are good posts that don't take that much effort too of course BUT if you post something I think you should at least explain what you're posting and why + a link when you refer to something.
That's basic (unless you can't explain due to language problems).

Many people here on Icke nowdays don't seem to have done much research unfortunately - and what's worse, they don't even seem to be interested in the real issues at all, they're just here for their own entertainment, to provoke others or just to socialize.
Either they are very young, ignorant and/or stupid or all of it combined IMO.
And their posts certainly reflect that as well.

[deuce mcallister]

Originally Posted by emerald

"Em and her little circle like to prattle on about nonsense but the topic of MK is a deep one and deserves genuine study."

The final proof that u have serious mental problems. Period.

? what does this mean?

[emerald]

Originally Posted by deuce mcallister

? what does this mean?

Ask wakeuptime, she knows best it seems.

[guivre]

I am however very interested in how the public can be manipulated through culture.

I do feel this thread has become another, alternative version of Heat Magazine, and celebrity spotting.

I think we are being manipulated here.... but its a double bluff.

Popstars and celebs... and their stylists, know that being a little controversial - using known triggers, signs, symbols and occult references will stick in the public mind - conciously or subconciously.

This folks, is a marketing ploy...... the public fall for it subconciously..... and the researchers, comentators and conspiracy theorists (like us) fall for it conciously.

glacidtek -- I totally see where you're coming from, and I think that most of the 'problems' of this thread are just that the subject matter is too huge for one small space. Instruction/information tends to clash with the need to comiserate with the daily log of crap thrown at us in the media, along with some folks feeling sympathy for some of the 'newest recruits' or whatever.

[pound]

Originally Posted by wakeuptime

Zbigniew Brzezinski recently told the Trilateral Commission, "They're all waking up and we're in big trouble."

Won't be long now.

Stepford zombies bye bye.

Yup I seen this the other day. Very interesting, the timing and all.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[pound]

Originally Posted by glacidtek

by most of the theorys discussed here... YES, there must be.

if these stars are being manipulated by handlers, there must be a higher level... and a higher level than that.

its the basics of any control structure: TOP-DOWN, with fewer on each level the higher you go.

these handlers are not manipulating their charges for their own benefit are they?that would blow all the theorys out of the water??????

so.... if the handlers are not autonimuos, and are in trun being controlled themselves.... it begs the question:

who handles the handlers handlers?

From the bit of research that Ive done so far, Shirley Maclaine is reported to weild immense power in this Druidic, Hollyweird coven/hierarchy. In fact I believe Fritz Springmeier said she was a 'high priestess' of some sort as well as a former CIA operative (Maclaines father was in fact a CIA asset based in Langley, Virginia). She's also apparently a Saxe-coburg-gothe, related to Queen Elizabeth the 2nd.
Funny......I was watching Letterman maybe about 3 months ago, and Jamie Foxx was the guest. Some how Shirley Maclaine had come up in the discussion and Letterman was ripping on her....The crowd erupts in laughter and the crowd is cheering Letterman on. All the while Jamie Foxx is just sitting in his seat with a placid, cautious look on his face. You could tell by the expression on his face that he was biting his tongue! Probably out of fear IMHO.

Baked from ATS put together this fantastic thread about Shirley Maclaines CIA/Illuminati connections:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread40119/pg1

[nelletuorg7]

Originally Posted by glacidtek

Just wondering what your take on who handles the handlers?

And who handles the handlers handlers?

If this is mind control, it has a top down structure, with fewer and fewer handlers the higher up you go.

There is a lot of energy spent her discussing celebritys, but that is merely social comentary, and actualy fuel to the fire.

So.... we have analysed, researched and diseminated the obvious public level.....

Who controls the next level?

Svali explains much of the hierarchy of programmers. Check out the youtube videos.