secret societies

sylvester1colle · 02-12-2008, 10:39 PM

Secret societies , why do they have to be secret?

keystone · 02-12-2008, 11:48 PM

The trite reply is that if they weren't they wouldn't be.

mike martin · 02-12-2008, 11:58 PM

The real question is, does anyone know any?

Mike

lightindarkness · 03-12-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mike martin

The real question is, does anyone know any?

Mike

In all my years I have yet to find a actual secret society that conspiracy theorists constantly go nuts over. The things they claim are secret societies either don't exist anymore (Illuminati), never have existed (NWO), or do exist but are not secret societies (Bohemian Grove).

sylvester1colle · 03-12-2008, 07:42 PM

i know of one =o)

elirien · 03-12-2008, 08:04 PM

I know of the greatest secret society of all. It's me

Even I don't know half the time what's going to happen where.

Besides that I would vote for the Rosicrucians perhaps. It's kind of like that dude that made the georgia guidestones. Very hard to find. Weirdly his surname was christian. Makes you all think "Rosenkreuz!" because of the cross reference which as far as I've read has nothing to do with the bible.

mike martin · 04-12-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by elirien

Weirdly his surname was christian. Makes you all think "Rosenkreuz!" because of the cross reference which as far as I've read has nothing to do with the bible.

Actually it made me think of Edge!

If his first name was Christian I would probably think Bale.

Mike

elirien · 04-12-2008, 12:50 AM

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Actually it made me think of Edge!

If his first name was Christian I would probably think Bale.

Mike

Ah come on. It is a good theory

You guys really need some fantasy going once in a while. All those rituals must have made you stiff like the millitary.

mike martin · 04-12-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elirien

Ah come on. It is a good theory

You guys really need some fantasy going once in a while. All those rituals must have made you stiff like the millitary.

Oh alright, you had me at

Mike

elirien · 04-12-2008, 09:56 AM

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Oh alright, you had me at

Mike

and I know that it isn't a secret society after I have knowledge of it

What would be your *most secret of all* society? What I mean is what society surprised you the most after you heard of it and read their publications (besides masonry).

mike martin · 04-12-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elirien

What would be your *most secret of all* society? What I mean is what society surprised you the most after you heard of it and read their publications (besides masonry).

That's an easy one! Opus Dei.

I held it in the same regard as many of you here view Freemasonry. My information had never come from OD direct just from books that I had read mentioning it.

Mike

meksar · 04-12-2008, 03:05 PM

only 2/% of masons know the true agenda it has a outer circle of members, a inner circle and an inner core. This same rule applies to most other fraternal orders, the Knights of Malta are the most discreet as they are the modern day Knights Templar. I think since the internet arrived secret societies knew they faced a larger scale of exposure then ever before, but the people are slowly waking up and when this whole reptilian agenda is clear for everyone to see we will remove are shackles and live in unity or face a lifetime of oppression and slavery that would be impossible to take our freedom back.

elirien · 04-12-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mike martin

That's an easy one! Opus Dei.

I held it in the same regard as many of you here view Freemasonry. My information had never come from OD direct just from books that I had read mentioning it.

Mike

Damn! I forgot them. Thanks. I'll have a look at those guys. Let's see how they dress

lightindarkness · 04-12-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by meksar

only 2/% of masons know the true agenda it has a outer circle of members, a inner circle and an inner core. This same rule applies to most other fraternal orders, the Knights of Malta are the most discreet as they are the modern day Knights Templar. I think since the internet arrived secret societies knew they faced a larger scale of exposure then ever before, but the people are slowly waking up and when this whole reptilian agenda is clear for everyone to see we will remove are shackles and live in unity or face a lifetime of oppression and slavery that would be impossible to take our freedom back.

Please define the "outer circle of members" and the "inner circle of members," since no mason can ever seem to figure out what that means. Also, please do tell how you - not even being a member, somehow KNOW that there is some evil, devious hidden agenda? How is it that its so secret and so hidden from us "outer circle" masons that we can never find it out, yet you know about it?

meksar · 04-12-2008, 06:50 PM

Look masonry has different degrees of initiation, through this process most of them will never get higher up then the first three degrees, when they reach the 30th to 33rd degrees they are in a different world of masonic rituals and inter connecting levels of power and control, many other fraternal orders have understood this pyramid power structure and like the masons have used it manipulate and create chaos in society, the motto for 33rd degree scottish rite of freemasonry is "Ordo Ab Chao" this is a satanic agenda which gets even deeper as there are at least 13 degrees above the 33rd which remain hidden even from researchers into the occult. So to break it down masonry is full of many mysteries, hidden occult knowledge etc, but it and other fraternal orders along with these 90% fairytale religons are the foundation for this reptilian agenda to manifest.

slartibartfast · 04-12-2008, 06:55 PM

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...the motto for 33rd degree scottish rite of freemasonry is "Ordo Ab Chao" this is a satanic agenda ...

"Order out of Chaos", I am intrigued as to your interpretation of this?

meksar · 04-12-2008, 08:37 PM

Order out of chaos, problem reaction solution or manipulate intimidate entrap, divide and conquer are the same basic agenda, to make us to submit to elites tyranny and most masons are not a problem but the more look at people like Albert Pike and many other very prominent masons past and present no sane person can deny there is wicked and spiteful plot to take the planet over for the next king of the kabbalah to rule humanity.

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elirien · 04-12-2008, 09:45 PM

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"Order out of Chaos", I am intrigued as to your interpretation of this?

Kind of sounds like the anti-law of thermodynamics

meksar · 04-12-2008, 11:43 PM

The war on freemasonry has already begun

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slartibartfast · 05-12-2008, 07:38 AM

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The war on freemasonry has already begun

Masonic exposures have been around since at least the 1700s.

02-12-2008, 10:39 PM	#1
sylvester1colle Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 65	secret societies Secret societies , why do they have to be secret?

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meksar Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rothschild City Posts: 4,960	only 2/% of masons know the true agenda it has a outer circle of members, a inner circle and an inner core. This same rule applies to most other fraternal orders, the Knights of Malta are the most discreet as they are the modern day Knights Templar. I think since the internet arrived secret societies knew they faced a larger scale of exposure then ever before, but the people are slowly waking up and when this whole reptilian agenda is clear for everyone to see we will remove are shackles and live in unity or face a lifetime of oppression and slavery that would be impossible to take our freedom back. Last edited by meksar; 04-12-2008 at 03:07 PM.

04-12-2008, 06:50 PM	#15
meksar Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rothschild City Posts: 4,960	Look masonry has different degrees of initiation, through this process most of them will never get higher up then the first three degrees, when they reach the 30th to 33rd degrees they are in a different world of masonic rituals and inter connecting levels of power and control, many other fraternal orders have understood this pyramid power structure and like the masons have used it manipulate and create chaos in society, the motto for 33rd degree scottish rite of freemasonry is "Ordo Ab Chao" this is a satanic agenda which gets even deeper as there are at least 13 degrees above the 33rd which remain hidden even from researchers into the occult. So to break it down masonry is full of many mysteries, hidden occult knowledge etc, but it and other fraternal orders along with these 90% fairytale religons are the foundation for this reptilian agenda to manifest. Last edited by meksar; 04-12-2008 at 06:58 PM.

02-12-2008, 11:58 PM	#3
mike martin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kent Posts: 1,873	The real question is, does anyone know any? Mike

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elirien Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: İstanbul, Turkey Posts: 2,871	I know of the greatest secret society of all. It's me Even I don't know half the time what's going to happen where. Besides that I would vote for the Rosicrucians perhaps. It's kind of like that dude that made the georgia guidestones. Very hard to find. Weirdly his surname was christian. Makes you all think "Rosenkreuz!" because of the cross reference which as far as I've read has nothing to do with the bible.