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Old 29-09-2008, 03:45 PM   #1
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Default Is Modified Maize Starch GM food?

Is it that obvious, is it?

I really want to avoid GM food. Is it legal now?

Just thought I would ask here as there are a lot of informed people on this board.
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Old 29-09-2008, 04:10 PM   #2
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AFAIK its starch derived from maize corn, thats been 'modified' somehow. I suppose the original crop might be GM, chem or even 'organic' (very unlikely!).

So id guess theres might be a high probability the maize was GM, depending on where it was produced, but its not GM by definition.

However, MMS is contaminated with processed free glutamate/MSG (maybe on purpose?) so your best off avoiding it anyway imo.
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Old 29-09-2008, 04:15 PM   #3
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thanks,

that stuff is everywhere.....modified corn flour too


I really thougth we weren't doing the GM thing yet (well officially anyway)

so there you have it


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Old 29-09-2008, 04:26 PM   #4
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Corn / Maize is probably the biggest GM crop on the planet. GM maize was first approved for the EU in 1997 with Spain becoming the first and biggest producer. Production also takes place in France, Germany, the Czech Republic, and Portugal. Maize production in Europe is largely used as animal feed.

Food and feed that is made from GM maize must be labelled.

Whatever way you look at it, I doubt it's been "modified" for your health benefits
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Old 29-09-2008, 04:38 PM   #5
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http://rawstory.com/news/afp/France_..._01112008.html

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France decided Friday to invoke an EU safeguard procedure to bar a strain of genetically-modified corn after a watchdog said it had doubts about the product, the prime minister's office said.


The government was invoking the procedure "until European authorities re-evaluate the authorisation on commercialisation" of the product, the prime minister's office said in a statement.


It had decided to act on the "principle of precaution" after the watchdog authority's findings, which have been controversial even among scientists who were involved in the authority's report, it added.


The government also announced it was investing 45 million euros (66 million dollars) in vegetable biotechnology, an eight-fold increase over the current budget.


US agricultural giant Monsanto, which produces the strain, has 15 days to present its defence.


French anti-globalisation activist Jose Bove -- who has been convicted of ripping up GM crops in southern France -- had launched a hunger strike last week to press for a year-long ban on genetically modified crops.


After France's decision on Friday, he said he would stop his hunger strike.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Thursday he was working with Prime Minister Francois Fillon towards a decision on suspending the Monsanto 810 maize.


France's Provisional High Authority on GM Organisms said Wednesday it had "serious doubts" as to the safety of Mon 810, the only GM crop grown in France.


It pointed to what it described as "a certain number of new scientific facts relating to a negative impact on flora and fauna."


Chairman Jean-Francois Le Grand, who also holds a seat in the Senate, said evidence had emerged that Mon 810 had an effect on insects, a species of earthworm and micro-organisms.


There was also concern that wind-borne pollen from Mon 810 could travel much further than previously thought -- perhaps as much as hundreds of miles (kilometres), said Le Grand.


In a surprise development however, 12 of the 15 scientists who compiled the authority's report issued a statement Thursday complaining that Le Grand had misrepresented their findings.


They said their initial report had not used the words "serious doubts" or "negative" concerning the latest evidence on GM crops.


They also complained they had not been allowed time to carry out a "fuller expertise" of Mon 810.


GM crops are a fiercely contested question in Europe, pitting agribusiness corporations against a powerful green lobby.


On its website, Monsanto Co. says Mon 810 was rigorously assessed for safety by authorities before being put on the market in 1997, and extensively studied by independent scientific experts.


Under European Union laws, a member state can invoke a safeguard clause, enabling it to bar a GM crop that has otherwise been given EU-wide authorisation, provided it has scientific evidence to back this decision. Six other EU members have already invoked this clause.


The maize, marketed as YieldGard, has been engineered to produce a naturally-occurring toxin, Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt), that kills a pest called the corn borer.


That saves farmers money they would otherwise have spent on spraying insecticides.
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Old 29-09-2008, 04:40 PM   #6
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Hi eyepod, I consider it a manipulation of my DNA

Thanks for the info!
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:42 PM   #7
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Is it that obvious, is it?

I really want to avoid GM food. Is it legal now?

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Yes, it is GM food.
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bit old, i know, but rather than create a new post...

I was disturbed to find this in strawberry treat desert (creamy) AND a cheese and bean micro meal.

never mix your food and desert, don't sit with me.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:26 AM   #9
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Modified corn starch (maize starch) is not "modified corn" made into starch, it's corn starch that's been modified. By "modified" they mean it's been processed in some way to way to change it's response to various cooking methods:

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Starches may be modified to increase their stability against excessive heat, acid, shear, time, cooling, or freezing; to change their texture; to decrease or increase their viscosity; to lengthen or shorten gelatinization time; or to increase their visco-stability.

This can be done with a bunch of methods, including treatment with enzymes, acids and ions. The starch isn't really nutritionally significant, as it's a minor ingredient used as a thickener.

No guarantee that it's made with Non-GMO corn(maize), but "modified" doesn't mean specifically that it IS made with GMO corn.

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Yeah i thought it was a thickener, but i think i have seen it in Wotsits too ?

Yup! lol now changing my diet, thus the mask is protecting me from the crap
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Is it that obvious, is it?

I really want to avoid GM food. Is it legal now?

Just thought I would ask here as there are a lot of informed people on this board.
There are no laws requiring GM food to be labeled as such or even tracked. This means there is NO WAY TO KNOW if the food you're eating if frankenfood or not.
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Old 13-09-2010, 08:16 PM   #12
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Honestly, it doesn't matter if it is genetically modified or not. You should not be ingesting maize starch at all. It's not human food.
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Food and feed that is made from GM maize must be labelled.
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There are no laws requiring GM food to be labeled as such or even tracked. This means there is NO WAY TO KNOW if the food you're eating if frankenfood or not.
which is it?
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Genetically modified foods - commonly asked questions


Genetically modified organisms (GMOs) are created by the transfer of genes from one organism to another, altering the DNA of the host organism, in a way that does not occur naturally by mating and/or combination. One feature of this process is that GM crops can be made to be resistant to certain pesticides, insects and herbicides.

Worldwide there are many different GMOs used in the production of food. The European Food Safety Authority carry out safety assessments on all new GM crops before they can be marketed in the EU.

All businesses that supply food direct to the public must inform the public if any of their products contain GM soya or maize. You may inform consumers by various means. If claims such as 'GM free' or 'produced from non GM material' can be substantiated, they are currently permitted but are discouraged and could result in a large fine if found to be untrue.

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Who has to declare the presence of GMOs in their foods?
Do I have to display a sign about GM foods?
Will fresh vegetables such as corn on the cob or tomatoes be genetically modified?
Is it legal to say 'GM free' or 'produced from non GM material'?
Which additives could be derived from GM crops?
What is modified starch?
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Who has to declare the presence of GMOs in their foods?
All businesses that supply food direct to the public, from supermarkets to fish and chip shops, must inform the public if any of their products contain GM soya or maize. Public service and school canteens, hospitals, HM Prisons, military catering establishments and similar premises are also required to declare the presence of genetically modified ingredients in the same way as commercial premises. This applies whether the food is sold or supplied free.

Do I have to display a sign about GM foods?
The law only requires action if foods you sell do contain GM ingredients. If this does apply, you may inform consumers by various means.

Will fresh vegetables such as corn on the cob or tomatoes be genetically modified?
The genetically modified maize (corn) contains a toxin to prevent damage by the corn borer. This will make cobs more attractive and there is no restriction to prevent it being sold as a vegetable. Genetically modified tomatoes have been developed for flavour as well as other properties.

Is it legal to say 'GM free' or 'produced from non GM material'?
If such claims can be substantiated, they are currently permitted. However, as many products are exempt from current labelling requirements, as outlined above, best advice is not to make such a statement.

A tolerance of 0.9% is allowed for small quantities of GM contamination in non GM foods but only for product from sources that are said not to be genetically modified and which have good control systems throughout the supply chain. This tolerance is only applicable to GM products that already have an EU approval. There is no threshold for any GM product that does not have an EU approval in place.

If claims that food is 'GM free' are found to be untrue, the penalty under the Food Safety Act 1990 is a fine which could be as much as 20,000.

Which additives could be derived from GM crops?
Additives that could be derived from GM crops include the following:

E101 and 101a* riboflavin - a vitamin and colouring agent that can be made by GMOs
E150* caramel - colouring from sugars, which may be from GM maize
E153* carbon black - colouring from burnt vegetable matter
E160d lycopene - a red dye from tomato extracts
E322 lecithin - an emulsifier usually made from soya
E415* xanthan gum - obtained from starch from maize
[*No residual DNA or protein could remain in these products, even if the source material was GM. However, consumers wishing to avoid GM foods due to environmental or ethical concerns would still wish to avoid these if derived from GM material. This is another concern regarding GM free claims.]

Others are E270, E306-9, E325-7, E460 (a) & (b), E462-6, E471-9 (b), E570-3, E620-5, E1404, E1410, E1412-4, E1420, E1422, E1440, E1442, and E1450. These functional additives include lactic acid compounds, thickeners and emulsifiers, anti-caking agents and flavour enhancers. Further potential sources of genetically modified material are corn syrup, glucose syrup, dextrose, fructose, maltodextrin, starch and modified starch, flavourings and processing aids such as enzymes, solvents and oils.

What is modified starch?
The description modified starch does not refer to genetic modification. Modified starch is starch that has been altered by physical or chemical treatment to give special properties of value in food processing.

Further reading
The Food Standards Agency website has guidance notes on GM labelling.

A more detailed Q&A on the regulation of GMOs in the European Union can be found on the Europa website.

The Europa website also holds the EU register of genetically modified food and feed.

The European Commission Joint Research Centre website may also be of interest.

See also our leaflet 'Labelling of genetically modified foods'.

Please note
This leaflet is not an authoritative interpretation of the law and is intended only for guidance. Any legislation referred to, while still current, may have been amended from the form in which it was originally enacted. Please contact us for further information.

Relevant legislation
Food Safety Act 1990
Food Labelling Regulations 1996
EU Regulation (EC) No 1829/2003 on genetically modified food and feed
EU Regulation (EC) No 1830/2003 concerning the traceability and labelling of genetically modified organisms and the traceability of food and feed products produced from genetically modified organisms
Genetically Modified Food (England) Regulations 2004
Genetically Modified Organisms (Traceability and Labelling) (England) Regulations 2004

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