Air rifles. - Page 2

resistance · 06-09-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by marpat

You got some nice rifles yourself. Anti tamper S410? is that the version with the safety upgrade for trigger? I dont have the safety catch on mine. Had it about 4 years now.

No, anti tamper means you can't adjust the power of the rifle..

marpat · 06-09-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by resistance

No, anti tamper means you can't adjust the power of the rifle..

Ah, I guess I dont have one of those. I am sure the power adjustment on mine is on the right side, that funny torque screw thingy.

resistance · 06-09-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by marpat

Ah, I guess I dont have one of those. I am sure the power adjustment on mine is on the right side, that funny torque screw thingy.

Yes that funny torque screw thingy

the itinerant shrubber · 07-09-2008, 09:43 PM

Woah,woah,woah! Lets not get bogged down in technical jargon!

swoarg · 17-09-2008, 04:36 PM

a theoben olympus with a carbine barrel and silincer with a walnut thumbhole stock. hmm what a rifle.
i have had the air arms s410 with the adjuster screw (uk version) but couldnt get much more then 12ft pounds out of it. the screw was only to adjust for different weighted pellets i think.
i love air rifle shooting, they only problem in the uk is that there under powerd and you have to be fairly close to get ur shot. which is good sport
but it takes alot of target practise first before you can gauranty an instant kill, be a good idea to discuss kill zones for different animals hmm that will probably upset some peeps, but its a good thing to know.

jojo · 17-09-2008, 04:42 PM

What are you guys talking about??

sounds like top wank material for the serious gun geek!

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Originally Posted by resistance

I sold my springers a couple of years back.

how could you! I could never sell mine!...or are you not talking about the dog breed??

the_count · 17-09-2008, 05:01 PM

I have been considering an air rifle myself, but i would not want to spend too much. Would it be worth spending say £100 on one or would i be wasting my money ?
I have been clay pigeon shooting with a friend a couple of times recently and quite fancy a shotgun now !
But obviously that would be serious wonga for something decent, and of course police checks etc.

the itinerant shrubber · 17-09-2008, 08:15 PM

I've decided I'm get the BSA Lighting. It's tried and tested and it does the job. I'm saving my pennies right now. I've also got a bottle of Shootmore rabbit attractant which I'll be experimenting with soon-minus an air rifle (although 9 ferrets,a rabid Terrier and a magnum trap is helping to control the rabbit population at the moment.)

eisenhower · 26-09-2008, 04:29 PM

Hi,
Has anyone come across the Girandoni air rifles?

These were issued to the Austrian army (special troops)before and during the Napoleonic wars, and it seems Napoleon didn't spare any austrian soldier that carried one of these.

1694 · 26-09-2008, 04:39 PM

This has interested me too. What are the UK laws on owning an air rifle in the UK and hunting say rabbits with one on "common land" etc.

eisenhower · 26-09-2008, 04:55 PM

I came across a book of how to make your own Girandoni air rifle in a second hand books shop.
But it seems to complex to me.
Has anyone tried to make your own air rifle? is it possible, or do you need some sort of mechanical knowledge?

resistance · 28-09-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 1694

This has interested me too. What are the UK laws on owning an air rifle in the UK and hunting say rabbits with one on "common land" etc.

Forget it! unless you want the armed response nobbers using you for thier target practice, also Any air rifle that exceeds 12 ft lbs requires an f.a.c, You need written permision from the land owner to shoot on land.

resistance · 28-09-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jojo

What are you guys talking about??

sounds like top wank material for the serious gun geek!

how could you! I could never sell mine!...or are you not talking about the dog breed??

nah i'm talking about my old air rifles silly

1694 · 28-09-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by resistance

Forget it! unless you want the armed response nobbers using you for thier target practice, also Any air rifle that exceeds 12 ft lbs requires an f.a.c, You need written permision from the land owner to shoot on land.

Thanks for the heads, up. I actually did the sensible thing and googled the relevant info. Apparently you can hunt rabbits with an air rifle under 12ft lbs if they are within 25meters. As you say you need land owners permission. Apperently asking local farmers can result in permission as rabbits are a pest. Then it's a case of sticking to the rules, not loading it on public land, transporting it in a rifle bag etc.

Was thinking of applying for an FAC so I could get a more powerfull rifle. There is a shooting club near me, will join up and go from there.

Getting into the idea of living off the land a bit more, fishing too and veg in the garden...mainly as a little fuck you to the Inland Revenue.

Option A
Go to work and earn money - On which you pay tax
Go to shop and spend money on food - On which the seller pays tax (so builds it into the price)

Option B
Kill it
Eat it.

1694 · 29-09-2008, 02:22 PM

Anyone any experiance with obtaining an FAC?

wazaaap · 29-09-2008, 02:28 PM

here is my air Gun. dont like rifles.

http://www.gamo.com/Controller?_obji...1441&_fb=sishm

marpat · 29-09-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1694

Anyone any experiance with obtaining an FAC?

Do you need an FAC? I have killed small game at 50 meters with a 12ft/lb rifle. It is my opinion that you alter your style of shooting to suit the environment rather than relying on power. Power is no substitute for skill.

I was going to apply for and FAC but couldnt be bothered in the end. You need two references and a strong gun cabinet (fitted to a wall in a room with no windows), etc.

marpat · 29-09-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1694

This has interested me too. What are the UK laws on owning an air rifle in the UK and hunting say rabbits with one on "common land" etc.

Why common land? if you ask farmers they are generally happy to let you shoot their pests. As long as you act with responsibility and maybe get insurance from the BASA (less than £20 a year) you should be able to get a shoot. Getting the foot in the door is the hardest part.

1694 · 29-09-2008, 06:23 PM

Marpat, I don't know much about this which is why i'm asking. I only started thinking about it this weekend.

Common land was a thought as I believed some people had rights to use the land for various things, but research indicates its a limited no of residents who are allowed to graze sheep and maybe collect fire wood. Hunting as you say, requires your own pvt land, or pvt land owners permission.

none · 30-09-2008, 07:07 AM

What's the craic with shooting at the shore? I heard that no one owns the shoreline and so you can shoot there. Up here the shore is hoaching with rabbits and canada geese (in season).

07-09-2008, 09:43 PM	#24
the itinerant shrubber Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 940	Woah,woah,woah! Lets not get bogged down in technical jargon! __________________ Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live. - Adolf Hitler

17-09-2008, 08:15 PM	#28
the itinerant shrubber Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 940	I've decided I'm get the BSA Lighting. It's tried and tested and it does the job. I'm saving my pennies right now. I've also got a bottle of Shootmore rabbit attractant which I'll be experimenting with soon-minus an air rifle (although 9 ferrets,a rabid Terrier and a magnum trap is helping to control the rabbit population at the moment.) __________________ Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live. - Adolf Hitler

26-09-2008, 04:29 PM	#29
eisenhower Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4	Girandoni air rifles Hi, Has anyone come across the Girandoni air rifles? These were issued to the Austrian army (special troops)before and during the Napoleonic wars, and it seems Napoleon didn't spare any austrian soldier that carried one of these.

26-09-2008, 04:39 PM	#30
1694 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,000	This has interested me too. What are the UK laws on owning an air rifle in the UK and hunting say rabbits with one on "common land" etc. __________________ MMA Clothing \| Tapout 5.11 Tactical UK \| Kit Bags \| Boots

26-09-2008, 04:55 PM	#31
eisenhower Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4	Girandoni air rifles I came across a book of how to make your own Girandoni air rifle in a second hand books shop. But it seems to complex to me. Has anyone tried to make your own air rifle? is it possible, or do you need some sort of mechanical knowledge?

17-09-2008, 04:36 PM	#25
swoarg Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 272	a theoben olympus with a carbine barrel and silincer with a walnut thumbhole stock. hmm what a rifle. i have had the air arms s410 with the adjuster screw (uk version) but couldnt get much more then 12ft pounds out of it. the screw was only to adjust for different weighted pellets i think. i love air rifle shooting, they only problem in the uk is that there under powerd and you have to be fairly close to get ur shot. which is good sport but it takes alot of target practise first before you can gauranty an instant kill, be a good idea to discuss kill zones for different animals hmm that will probably upset some peeps, but its a good thing to know.

17-09-2008, 05:01 PM	#27
the_count Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NW UK Posts: 316	I have been considering an air rifle myself, but i would not want to spend too much. Would it be worth spending say £100 on one or would i be wasting my money ? I have been clay pigeon shooting with a friend a couple of times recently and quite fancy a shotgun now ! But obviously that would be serious wonga for something decent, and of course police checks etc.

29-09-2008, 02:22 PM	#35
1694 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,000	Anyone any experiance with obtaining an FAC? __________________ MMA Clothing \| Tapout 5.11 Tactical UK \| Kit Bags \| Boots

29-09-2008, 02:28 PM	#36
wazaaap Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,035	here is my air Gun. dont like rifles. http://www.gamo.com/Controller?_obji...1441&_fb=sishm

29-09-2008, 06:23 PM	#39
1694 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,000	Marpat, I don't know much about this which is why i'm asking. I only started thinking about it this weekend. Common land was a thought as I believed some people had rights to use the land for various things, but research indicates its a limited no of residents who are allowed to graze sheep and maybe collect fire wood. Hunting as you say, requires your own pvt land, or pvt land owners permission. __________________ MMA Clothing \| Tapout 5.11 Tactical UK \| Kit Bags \| Boots Last edited by 1694; 29-09-2008 at 06:25 PM.

30-09-2008, 07:07 AM	#40
none Inactive Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 219	What's the craic with shooting at the shore? I heard that no one owns the shoreline and so you can shoot there. Up here the shore is hoaching with rabbits and canada geese (in season).