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you don´t have to believe in lizards or reptiles. but could you explain to me, how you can know for sure, that such things do not exsist? are you aware of how vast our universe is, and that we are still on the brink of learning about this universe. i am thinking of other dimensions too, and who knows which beings might occupy these realms. all i am asking from you, is to do your own research, and keep an open mind too.
i would say that there is credible evidence, that this realm has had visitors from other solar systems, in times past. i base this on the largest mysteries that mankind still hasn´t solved. the building of the pyramids? the ancient mayan culture, with streets of gold and a very advanced astronomy? all these questions, are still driving men to these places, in search for answers. i recall watching a programme from german television, back in 1997, and they tried re-building the pyramids, and did so in so many ways. and they finally gave up, and left the conclusion to be; "we do not have the knowledge needed to reconstruct these ancient monuments"; and i am not saying that aliens built them, but if some people little more than 10 years ago, with all the advanced technology avaliable, couldn´t re-build a pyramid; it leaves me to wonder what are we missing out on!? it is a common claim that dinosaurs lived way before the first man stepped the earth, then howcome this myth is being put to silence, by evidence that a human footprint has been found in the print as one of a dinosaur? is it not true that as we progress in knowlegde and understanding, ceratin things which we believed in before, are put to silence. yes, today many laugh at the notion that life outside our realm, has ever made contact and interacted with us, however it seems to me, that evidence is coming forth and being found, that we are not the only ones, in this vast universe. it is therefore very likely, that it is not so insane, to claim other lifeforms are found, wen thinking of the vastness of our universe etc. the first sailors whom reported about sightings of giant squids, they were also rediculed. somethings are very hard to believe indeed, but if everything else fails, then the remaining must be the closest to the true. love & peaceful thoughts; from Dragonfly
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What makes satan a more plausable explanation for the worlds ills than lizard men? If we decided that lucifer and his merry band of fallen angels appear to us as humanoids with horns and scaley skin, and that the leaders of our world were possesed by demons, would you feel any better?
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You know james777,
when you really grasp the CONCEPT, of what 'Reality' is ... Well, what are a few lizards? They ain't shit!!!
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Why do i get the idea that you don't like this forum?
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From what I have read and observed, since looong before hearing of David Icke etc, the best examples of brainwashing come from religion, be it christianity or any of the other multitude of religions, dogmas, cults etc. This is the way it is!! Don't dare question what we tell you or our LOVING GOD will strike you down or condemn you to eternal damnation. They control you with fear. That isn't brainwashing? Forget the mind, it tells you what it has been conditioned to tell you. What does your intuition, knowing, feeling, gut feeling tell you? If it tells you that your beliefs (in your mind) are right, then fine. But don't expect everyone else to 'feel' the same. Satan is the TRUE enemy? Prove it!! You can't any more than the other BULLSHIT to which you referred. And please don't quote the bible. It proves nothing. It is a book written by man, interpreted, misinterpreted, had whole books removed and been manipulated. You want to believe in it...fine. Others believe in other beings....no problem! We are all on our own path and what rings true for one, may not for another. I surely don't have all the answers but I am free to believe what I like.
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There's little else I could say. Thank you guys for covering it all already.
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Of course, Reptilians exists! Who's responsible for the whole mess of the human race and planet Earth. The malevolent alien alliances. The reptilians, the mantis, hostile nordic groups.
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Well, it seems that I have a lot to address. So I'll start with the first reply and work my way down. Before I get started, I want to thank all of you for taking part in my little thread here.
DRAGONFLY; First of all I want to thank you for the most intellegent and articulate response, but I think I need to clear a few things first. You asked me, "you don´t have to believe in lizards or reptiles. but could you explain to me, how you can know for sure, that such things do not exsist?" My response to that is I never said they don't exist, or at least that's not what I meant. I was referring to the so-called Reps that genetically munipulate us and want to enslave us. Now, I can't prove that they don't and you can't prove that they do, so round and round we go, but hear this. If these reps are using genetics to munipulate us or enslave us or eat us or whatever it is they intend to do with us, than why is there so much disease and sickness. Why would they pick such a weak and fragile species to enslave? And if in fact they did originally create us then how could they mess this up? How can they have the technolgy to fly billions of light years, travel through time and space, create us, but not know how to create us with perfection? It just doesn't make any good logical sense. Secondly, I would like to say that I agree 100% with you that we've had visits from other realms and outer space. We ourselves are in this world, but not of it. Before man there were heavenly beings who travelled the stars, built empires and lived free. Like any civilization, there was a heiarchy of power. You have the most powerful, which we refer to commonly as God, The second in command, commonly referred to as satan and so on. Proof of these heavenly beings is simply; structures and pyramid-like structures, cities, roads, runways, underground tube systems and so-on on other planets. Now you may have never heard of any of this, but just read up on it, many ex-NASA employees are coming foreward with hard evidence proving many things about our own solar system, but let me stay on the point here. So, eventually, the 2nd in command wanted to be 1st and having a legion of followers tried to over-throw the almighty one that was 1st in command and failed miserably. This is when he and his followers were banned from the third heavens and was given dominion over the second heavens(the universe) and our heavens(the milky-way). This is when Lucifer the bright morning star was seperated from eternal entry into the third heavens. Then the 1st in command, God, decided that he wanted to make a new creation, he decided to create man. He put us on the perfect earth and gave us perfect conditions and even made us in HIS own image also giving us power over other creations he made, including the ones banned from the third heavens. So jealousy crept in! Lucifer and his legion were now pitted against humanity, because we were now the most prized possesion of the Almighty! To make a long story short, this is when the deception and lies crept in, this is when humanity, also given free will, began to fall away from the creator. Lucifer and his legions began appearing to man, giving him great knowlegde (such as pyramid building, cosmology...ect) and showing him great wonders, teaching us of the heavens and all sorts of things. Since they were inter-dimensional creatures and could seamlessly flow back and forth through space and time, they came up with great stories of how they themselves were gods from other places and realms and man foolishly believed this. The whole time man thinks he is advancing toward a greater future but inevitably dividing future generations. Lucifer is happy now because he has corrupted God's greatest creation and now he can lay low and let us destroy ourselves, confuse ourselves and damn ourselves. This is why God sent phrophets and eventually God came to earth in human form (Jesus Christ) to teach us and help guide us through this completely tangled web. I have much more to say on this subject, but for now, we'll leave it at that. Hopefully I've explained myself here a little better. I know that many will pass remarks about what I just said, but that in itself is telling me that I've got their attention. I guess I'm kinda like the sailors that were the first to see the giant squids. SMARIOT; Now you've just hit the nail right on the head, thanks for understanding! You know more than you think you do. I AM ALL I AM; I apoligize for using a remark you deem as racist. I didn't mean anything offensive by it. Also, I never asked anyone to join a crusade or activate in an occult. I'm merely dropping knowledge that you appear not ready to accept. All your cute little poems and fancy animations are good and well, but you'll get to a point when the chip on your shoulder needs to be released and then and only then you'll have the spirit and capacity to understand truth when it's in front of you. LET GO of the baggage man! LADY LITA; Who said anything about horned demons or a god who doesn't exist?? You've become quite defensive for no reason. I'm sure you did see what you think you saw, but you just didn't and don't understand what it is. It's okay though, it's hard to understand things, ecspecially when you're already confused. I'm definitely not angry, you just must be sensitive. INFINITELY FREE; Again, sorry if my wordage offended you, I meant no racism by it. I was talking about lizards for goodness sake! Oh ya, and I never said I didn't believe in lizards, just not the one's hell-bent on enslaving the human race. By the way, I LOVE this forum!!! I AM; Okay, you need to pump your brakes. If your not brainwashed, then why are you so mad that I made a remark about people being brainwashed? Seems a little suspicious to me and what did I ever say about religion? Seems like you have some serious issues that you need to vent. When did I mention God striking anyone down or sending anyone into eternal damnation. Are you even reading what I've typed? Seems to me that you have a lot of fears about this subject, and believe me I can empathize with you, but brother, fear is not a spirit of the loving God, so whoever you're listening to, you may wanna thoroughly inspect! I don't expect anyone to feel anyway, it's not my concern. I just drop knowledge and if you understand it, you understand it, if you don't then you don't. Try not to react with mis-guided emotion, follow your own advice and listen to your innerself. TIMESTOP24; Common, that's all you got for me? You're gonna let everyone else speak for you? |
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GORDANFREEMAN; Wow Gordy, I don't even know what to say to that. I would say that we (humans) are responsible for our own problems. Why is everyone always looking for a scapegoat or someone else to blame?
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i don't disagree with what you say about god and the angels, the thing is it's a story that works on so many levels, i mean you could see the split of yaweh and lucifer as the point where duality was concieved, the point at which this physical universe was created, that classic good vs evil, except, from my opinion anyway, it's just two oposite poles that react against each other, like a battery i suppose and the energy created is this universe. in african mythology it's depicted as the eternal struggle between hot and cold, from the ashes created from this battle, arose MA, who created the world.
on another level you've got the whole story of the annunaki, where you could say that enlil was yaweh and enki was lucifer, the hell in christianity was called the absu by the sumerians, and i personally think it refers to a place on the planet, southern africa to be precise. the book of genesis is just a shortened version of an older sumerian text, complete with the garden of E.DIN, later called edinu by the akkadians and finally became eden. i think often people balk at the site of words they don't like (i am guilty of this), but if you look closer, you say satan has got us to a point that we are now easy prey, fighting ourselves, thats what the illuminati is doing, same thing different names. my big problem with religions is this talk of having to fear god, avert your eyes and all that, seeing as we are just the energy resulting from the two poles, we are a part of everything that is, we are the good and the bad, we need the good and the bad to exist in this universe, it is a universe of opposing forces, so the aim, if we are to end the enslavement we began so long ago, we have to realise that the good is the bad, and the bad is the good, they are both constructs of the same 'machine' if you will, we've got to get from being in the machine, to being behind it, the way it was before this universe. and on the subject of reptiles, hell, they may exist the may not, but that reptilian lack of emotion and compassion exists for sure, it's that we should be concentrating on, tackle that and whether reppies exist in the physical sense becomes less important.
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Wow!! WTG james!! You have been a member of this forum for all of three days and you think you know what makes certain people tick. You sure know how to make friends and influence people, don’t you?
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![]() I addressed your points. Brainwashing: I did not say that you said anything about religion. I was simply stating that the most brainwashing is done by religions. That is my opinion. Mine!! I am not telling you what to think or being condescending to you. I was merely giving an opinion. Quote:
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You see I addressed your points. I did not try to analyse you or attack you or your beliefs. I simply gave my point of view. There is quite a difference. OK so I vented a little. I'm over it now
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I don't know if there are Reptilians, Aliens, Ghosts, a God or whatever else!
Were we created...I don't know! But the one thing I do know, is that there is NO "LOVING" God. |
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There is no need to apologise to me. Feel free to express yourself in any way that you choose without censoring yourself. The words that we use are merely a description of who we choose to be. If you choose to describe yourself in the way that you have, that is your choice. If you decide that it no longer represents you merely choose another way of describing yourself. You always mean what you say because you always say what you mean. Quote:
If you read what I said (it is quoted above for your benefit) then you will realise that I have not mentioned you ASKING anyone anything. As to, "I'm merely dropping knowledge that you appear not ready to accept."...why would I accept Jesus as my saviour ??? You are EXPECTING me to believe as you do. Expectation of this will lead to dissappointment for you. To avoid your dissappointment merely release your expectation. A TRUTH I BELIEVE IF YOU DON'T PREACH TO ME AND TELL ME HOW TO LIVE, THEN I'LL KNOW FOR A FACT IT'S LOVE THAT YOU GIVE, FOR LOVE IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER LEAVE, 'CAUSE IF UNITED WE STAND, UNITED WE ACHIEVE. SO IF YOU LISTEN THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WILL DEMAND, TO LIVE LIFE WITH LOVE AS YOUR GOAL, ALLOWS YOU TO LIVE ETERNALLY AS YOUR SOUL. NOW IT'S TIME TO DECIDE WHERE IT IS YOU LIVE, AND MAKE THE CHOICE OF WHAT IT IS YOU GIVE, FOR I HAVE CHOSEN TO MAKE MY LOVE CLEAR, 'CAUSE GIVING TO WHERE I'M LIVING CREATES HEAVEN HERE. THIS IS A MESSAGE THAT IS EASILY HEARD, IT'S A GIFT OF LOVE CONTAINED WITHIN WORD, NO CODE OR CYPHER IT IS THAT YOU NEED, YOU WILL LIVE ETERNALLY WHEN LOVE IS FREED. IT'S A MESSAGE DIRECT FROM YOUR SOUL, LOVE IS THE GIVER THAT MAKES YOU WHOLE, AND TOGETHER AS ONE WE CAN ACHIEVE, UNITING LOVES FAMILY, A TRUTH I BELIEVE. "LET GO of the baggage man!" You are attempting to tell me what to do here. The "baggage" of religion and the bible is something that you are carrying around, and the cross that you are bearing, clearly shown in your expectations. I have my own beliefs and understandings without having to rely upon any religous dogma. Quote:
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we are all the same consciousness We created the Matrix, and all Negativity was created by the Matrix We should take the Responsibility, not some reptoids, who are only sentient programs, anyway! We should make a destiction, between having the posiblity of the Reptilian counsiousness, and not taking the responsiblity After all guys, why did Llumis, Secret societies, etc appear?? Because we neede someone to be responsible, for what's happening, to us ! And there they came! And on a five-sence level: Sending protest petitions against what the govenrment's doing - this is a good move, It is useless to deny the possiblity of 'reptilians', nor is it usefull to try to attack the lizzards like we are in a video game (we really are, anyway, but that's not the point) Last edited by infinitely free; 02-05-2007 at 03:57 PM. |
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I DO NOT SENSE good vibe on this thread.. please if you feeling like you beeing judged.. its better if you just dont reply.. dont play the game by their rules!
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LUMUKANDA; Great reply! Your points are very valid and I would love to discuss them! See, after the first 'split' there has been a pattern in our own physical universe. Everything is split, right? Everything has an equal and opposite force, right? Well, yes. Laws of nature are just that. They obey physical limits and we, as humans cannot control them, just discover. Now, to your point of relating 'my story' on many levels. See before any of this happened, the creator already knew the outcome, I know it's hard to grasp this but he doesn't work in the laws of our nature, such as time. So he geniously set up the laws of our physical reality, to help further give us symbols and explain to us how things work on the greater scale....example being; Hot vs. Cold, Opposite Poles and so-forth. So here we have nature being a terrific guide to help us understand the struggles in the other realms, but we're missing the point entirely. See, Lucifer knows what the plan for humanity is and he knows that he's not included, so instead of being in force with us, he's obviously against us. In doing this he has created and recreated myths about our very existence so that we won't have any idea what the hell is going on. So instead of hot vs. cold being a guide for us it has now become the root of our existence, I know this is just a very small example, but can you see my point here? Lucifer and his legions used to appear regularly to humans at the beginning of human history because they had to start somewhere. This is when all of these myths and tall tales originated, such as the story of the annunaki. Over time they bread with humans and eventually didn't have to make appearences because now they had and still have humans that do their bidding and they can just sit back and pretend they don't exist causing even more confusion. Now you said "you say satan has got us to a point that we are now easy prey, fighting ourselves, thats what the illuminati is doing, same thing different names." You are absolutely, 100% accurate in your correlation, but see the illuminati is the physical extension of the spiritual luciferian plan. So it is the same thing with different names and that's the whole point. See how it can cause so much confusion when you don't logically put the pieces together? We have the ability as humans, to see these things. Have you ever heard about using your 3rd eye? You just have to start using it to be able to see through all this mist. Thank you for bringing this out of me and please feel free to continue this conversation.
POLLOCK; Yes, very good, as a matter of fact those are my words. I wasn't blaming anything or anyone as a scapegoat. I'm just simply explaining the situation so that we as humans can overcome the enemy instead of give up and blame the enemy for our problems..........Understand? I'll get to the rest of you shortly......... |
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