Cobain murdered by CIA

[brown velvet]

Originally Posted by soulja

Hi


regarding this image....

How many 'time pieces' spam emails do you get? I am forever thinking, how can they sell this many watches...?
Start looking for 'trig's' in the titles of them, see if anyone notices anything?
I mean, if you don't know you're MC then going to your 'In box' is going to become an incredibly tirggery / painful event. And something that has to be done, at least once a day.

May also be 'date / ritual' time triggers that send out on particular days?


brown.

[soulja]

butterfly effect intro starts with a blue butterfly flying around


who then becomes part of the split brain/skull image

Originally Posted by cheeb

At thirteen, he attempted to jump from a hospital balcony, but his father intervened at the last minute.

age 13 also plays a role in the movie


infact age 13 seems to be a important point in MK/bloodliner/brotherhood upbringing as i notice it quiet a lot.

as a child he witnesses several disturbing events (traumas) and each time he falls unconscious/looses time with no recollection of the event he just witnessed/took part in.

he watches as his dog is set on fire,

by one of the kids he hangs out with (in MK monarchs are forced to do twisted things to each other)

another trauma is him witnessing a woman and her baby blown to bits, and him and the girl he fancies plus her brother being forced to partake in a sexual role play while the father of the two films it.

father is a drinker and in one scene flashes the satanic hand sign



he is wearing a templar cross, she a five pointed star (eastern star, starfish)
there also skulls, checker floors and your usual numbers in the flick (13,7,etc..) and in one of his realities he's member of a campus fraternity.

the color blue is overused imo and that might ties into color-programming.

just one quick example


in one scene his mother finds him in standing in the kitchen holding a large knife while being absent-minded.



a picture he draws at school and can't remember to have drawn it.


his father suffers from the same illness he does (generational link)

[soulja]

Originally Posted by brown velvet

Hi


regarding this image....

How many 'time pieces' spam emails do you get? I am forever thinking, how can they sell this many watches...?
Start looking for 'trig's' in the titles of them, see if anyone notices anything?
I mean, if you don't know you're MC then going to your 'In box' is going to become an incredibly tirggery / painful event. And something that has to be done, at least once a day.

i think when you're MK you won't get through the day without being triggered one way or another. except of course you turn your lights off and hide under your blanket.
internet,tv, radio, even walking down your highstreet could trigger you. isn't that what springmeier called ''the control of the milieu'' ?

what you said about emails is interesting btw, cos while reading through that MIblog i came across a post talking about something similar. the guy showed an email they have send him and said the appendix is full of triggers.

another thing that i was thinking about are theater plays and movies with MK scripts like for example Wizard of Oz. there so many remakes of that story that basicly it's everyday being played somewhere. now if your programmed with that script you'll be subconsciously drawn to it, you will want to watch it.

and therefor unwittingly helping them to reinforce your programming.

May also be 'date / ritual' time triggers that send out on particular days?


brown.

interesting thought, personally i'm not aware of any time triggers but was wondering about that while watching certain movies.
i always ask myself ''why do they show this particular time on the clock in the background or for example the bomb the hero needs to defuse, etc..

as for ritual dates to attend for the MK victim, springmeier wrote they would mostly be triggered over the phone or another way is in families who are all programmed that they are programmed in a way to trigger each other at certain times.

[brown velvet]

Originally Posted by soulja

i always ask myself ''why do they show this particular time on the clock in the background or for example the bomb the hero needs to defuse, etc..

hi



lolol..... SNAP!



brown

[brown velvet]

Originally Posted by soulja

i always ask myself ''why do they show this particular time on the clock in the background or for example the bomb the hero needs to defuse, etc..

hi



lolol..... SNAP!



brown

[soulja]

ok you snapped twice now, i guess that means i can be normal again.

my front alter so to speak. and what does my front alter do all the time ?

he posts stuff.

so here we go, i post stuff


candy, heart pendant stuff..

and how about some beatles stuff ?

The Beatles are spirited away in the eponymous yellow submarine to save Pepperland from the dreaded Blue Meanies. Along the way, the singing saviors encounter a surreal feast for both the eyes and ears: phantasmagorical creatures, outrageous landscapes, and colors that throb and vibrate to each and every Beatle song on the soundtrack. It's a drug-free, hallucinogenic journey for the armchair tripper, the peak of which is undoubtedly (and not surprisingly) the "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" sequence. An incredible film experience at all levels, "Yellow Submarine" manages to capture exquisitely and in visual form the beauty and madness of the incomparable Beatles. And to think 1968 also included Kubrick's "2001!"

interesting stuff wouldn't you agree ?

yo maybe you should snap one more time so i stop saying stuff all the time

[soulja]

heres some more stuff and it's Disney so you better take this serious..

The animated comedy tells the story of a lowly wood pigeon named Valiant, who overcomes his small size to become a hero in Great Britain's Royal Air Force Homing Pigeon Service during World War II. The RHPS advanced the Allied cause by flying vital messages about enemy movements across the English Channel, whilst evading brutal attacks by the enemy's Falcon Brigade.

pigeon, code for MK-courier and we even have a royal connection.

add to that the sunflower as symbol for British SIS. (according to MI6 blog)

[cheeb]

Originally Posted by soulja

and how about some beatles stuff ?




interesting stuff wouldn't you agree ?

The White Album


Not The White Album,
But Interesting Themes Going On Here...

Charlie Manson And The White Album..



Charlie was a Beatles fan. Beatle music played as day-to-day life performed itself out at Spahn Ranch and other places Charlie lived.

Sadie Mae Glutz

Funny How Charlie Has Scrawled HOLE
On This Picture Of Susan Atkins...

They took names from the album (Sexie Sadie aka Susan Atkins) and expressions from lyrics punctuated all of their speech. It was said that Charlie would only quote from the bible or the Beatles.

In the Beatles music, particularly the White Album, he heard "clues" and "messages". Here are some of the suggested interpretations that were allegedly made by the Family from The Beatles works:

Triggers..!!!

Some Songs Off The Album

# I Will: an ode to J.C. or Charlie? Possibly a message to Charlie to record an album . "Sing it loud..." was their message to sing out so that the Beatles could find Charlie, the Messiah.

# Honey Pie: The Beatles' wish for Charlie to come to them "across the Atlantic". They're too "lazy" to look for him themselves. The song's reference to Hollywood suggested to Manson that they knew he was out there somewhere.

# Happiness is a Warm Gun: arm yourself for a race war


# Blackbird: a call for Blacks to aRISE and start the Apocalypse. The word "Rise" was written at the home of two of the victims, the LaBiancas.


# Piggies: the establishment gets a "damn good whacking"... what the blacks were going to do to the whites. The verse about piggies eating bacon with forks and knives could have been acted out, considering that the victims were all stabbed multiple times, and one was found with a fork and knife embedded in his stomach. "Pig" was written at the Tate residence, and "Death to Pigs" was written at the LaBiancas' home.


# Rocky RacCOON: Negroes again!


# Helter Skelter: a British slide or prophecy about Manson emerging from the 'bottomless pit' "Healter Skelter" [sic] was written at the LaBiancas' home.

# You Never Give Me Your Money: (ABBEY ROAD): A door was found at the Family's compound with the words "1,2,3,4,5,6,7, ALL GOOD CHILDREN GO TO HEAVEN" (from YNGMYM) printed on it, along with the words "HELTER SKELTER IS COMING DOWN FAST".

# Revolution: Impending disaster (what more do you need...are you out or in?)
# Revolution #9 = Revelation #9 : Revelation #9 is a book in the Bible that deals with prophecy and apocalypse

[soulja]

nice post cheeb..

there's a monkey on the yellow submarine cover.

and since that isn't the first time i've seen monkeys in an Mk context i was wondering, do they play a role in MK ?

according to springmeier some alters believe themselves to be monkeys

CHAPTER 9

THE SCIENCE OF MIND MANIPULATION BY PSYCHOLOGICAL PROGRAMMING METHODS: BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION, PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION & NLP

One way to explain how the slaves are conditioned is to relate an episode where the. two authors observed a Satanic family carrying out conditioning to reinforce their children’s mind control as their family “ate” at a restaurant. After relating this interesting incident, the chapter will cover the various psychological methods used to condition slaves.



OBSERVATIONS OF A SATANIC FAMILY CARRYING OUT MONARCH CONDITIONING ON THEIR CHILDREN.

The husband of the family was about 28 and the wife was about 26. A young man (perhaps an uncle of the children) about 25 also sat at the table with them. The family had 5 children, ranging from about 1 1/2 years old to about 7 years old. During the entire time we watched them, which was over an hour, we never saw one act of love, not one act of nurturing on the part of the parents. Everything was programming, programming and more programming. The husband had an attitude of control over his children. He was a young somewhat wild cock-sure type. From piecing together things it was clear that he made a good salary and that he and his wife enjoyed profanity. His wife had the most dead looking eyes we have ever seen in a person. She looked every bit the part of a Satanic priestess of the worst type.

The young man of about 25 had very large knife hidden on his back that we noticed only by close observation of his movements. Although it was 1 o’clock, the adults were calling their meal “breakfast.”

The main male child was about 5 years old. He had an older sister and two younger sisters, and they all had a baby brother. During the entire time that the family was there, the children ate almost nothing. The 5 yr. boy munched on a watermelon rind, trying to draw some sustenance from it. Part of mind control is depriving the body of food. The poor children never once asked for anything; that is a clue that something wasn’t normal. During most of the time that the family was in the restaurant, the mother and father took turns shooting one question after another at the five year boy. The questions were like:

What is the capital of Florida? What is the 70th element on the periodical chart? What are the names of the first five presidents? What is the square root of 121? The boy would roboticly answer each question successfully. The questions were not questions but programming and commands. The mother sternly said, “What make of car was that? That’s a question.” (Actually what she was saying was a command.) Around this time they said, “Wake up, wake up, wake up.” (hypnotic command.) A couple which was in the restaurant was watching how obedient the children were, and they were also overhearing how excellent this little boy could answer difficult rapid-fire questions. They were impressed and the lady came over to tell the parents how wonderful their family was. After oodling for 10 minutes over how great this family was the woman went on to other things. It was difficult for both of us watching to stomach the compliments this stranger was giving to these parents. The natural impulse was to get her to shut up her compliments. She naively made all these compliments little knowing, that these parents were practicing one of the most hideous if not the most hideous type of mind control invented. Asking questions rapid fire is another mind-control technique. In fact, all of the elements of what Fritz watched at the table that day were practiced on Fritz, the co-author, when he was in Beast Barracks at West Point, USMA. The little girl was repeating her programming, “I don’t have anything inside me.” She was actually singing it. One of the girls had different alters coming out and was having a conversation with herself between different alters (personalities). She placed her hand over her temple in scarecrow fashion (Wizard of Oz) programming. Her head movement was a dead giveaway to those of us familiar with Monarch programming. -The parents had chosen the spot to eat because of the large surreal picture above them on the wall with blue & red flowers, water and mountains. The picture was acting as a scrambling-scattering mechanism, when the boy studied the picture, which he did for the longest time in a trance. The middle girl was dropping crayons into a styrofoam cup and saying “get into the fire.” Then she would say “I’m purple.” “I’m pink.” “I understand your purple.” “I understand you’re pink.” “Get out of here for a minute.” What she was doing was giving the crayons personalities. In the Monarch programming, the person is totally dehumanized so that some alters think they are ribbons, some monkeys, some clowns, some dolls, some trees, some lions or tigers, etc. The sexual alters are often programmed to think of themselves as cats and butterflies. While the girl was coloring, her father reached over the table without warning and took her colors, “You don’t deserve these colors and I should have taken them away before now. The girl had done nothing wrong. This is part of mind control. The person learns that there isn’t a right or wrong only that they must be obedient. The little girl did not even respond when her colors were yanked away. When the mom talked to them, she said “children”--she never once personalized things. The parents began another programming session and said something like, “I will spank you. If you don’t count then you can be spanked, we will count 20 times.” The constant double messages were obviously breaking down the children to think as programmed rather than respond like normal people to the outside world. The woman turned to her little baby and said, “Tell daddy good-bye”. When the child waved good-bye, the woman snapped, “You're not going anywhere.” This serves to create confusion. Then she kissed him and said, “Baby, do you want a picture?” We decided to say something to them, and we did so in the form of a compliment about their children. Neither parent showed any pride in the children when the earlier lady had gushedly complimented the children, nor when we complimented them with a sentence. Instead, when we complimented the children, the father began shooting off a series of difficult questions to the boy. This was simply more programming, but apparently he must have thought that we’d be impressed with the boy’s ability to answer difficult questions that seemed way beyond what many teenagers would know. Two strange things happened during the course of our verbal interaction with this satanic family. First, the waitresses had given the family free ice cream coupons, but the parents gave them to us without the children even batting an eyelid. Second, I asked the father what the age of his children were and he didn’t know, or acted like he didn’t know. Then he blurted out, they are 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 years old. His wife knew that that answer must have looked bogus to us, and she reprimanded him, “You don’t even know the age of your children.” To which he replied, “Yes, they are 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.” The second answer was equally implausible, but his wife didn’t protest, and the poor mind controlled children were experiencing just one more element of Satanic mind-control. They are not even allowed to realize how old they are. Dates, and times, and ages are kept very confused in the children’s minds for secrecy and control. Not only that, but by giving a hypnotic induction “1, 2, 3...” the father had lowered each of the alters which were holding the bodies of his children into a deeper trance. With these alters tranced, another word from the father could have easily pulled up other alters.


OTHER ITEMS THAT PARENTS DO TO THEIR MONARCH CHILDREN

Double bind communication is commonly given multiples by all of their abusers. Some of these double binds are well thought out and some just occur due to the craziness of the entire thing. For instance, in ritual or programming, the child may have the option to stab or be stabbed. In fighting the programming, if an alter goes toward health, the programmers have set in a booby-trap. Which evil does the slave live with--the lies of the programming or the lies of the external world? How does one tell the truth to a therapist, when the therapist is not capable of hearing the truth, and yet still demands to be told the truth? Yes, double-binds abound. Another trick is to alternate leniency with harshness. This trick is done in the military also, and has been worked with success by the Chinese government upon the people of Red China. When leniency is alternated with kindness, the effect is devastating and disconcerting because the person looses the ability to predict what is going to happen. Everyone likes to control his or her life. Predicting what is going to happen is part of a person’s mind gaining control over their environment. Even that control is stripped from a slave. They soon learn to quit trying to protect themselves, and they quit trying to think for themselves but docilely submit to whatever fate assigns them. The mind can’t figure life out, so it quits trying to understand life, and just fatally submits. Dr. Green (Mengele) was very gentle when drawing blood, and he was very gentle when giving the children X-rays. He would sweet talk them and give candy. But he was very sadistic when he’d follow this up with abuse. The programmers have preferred to be inconsistent with the children like this. Soon the child doesn’t know what hate and love are anymore. The person, who claims he loves them, gives them torture or abandons them to be tortured by someone else. A third trick is to give the victim monotonous tasks, such as chanting or copying long amounts of written material. This helps prod the dissociation, and is a torture that doesn’t leave marks.

in the movie Fight Club we have the ''Space Monkeys''

in Oz we have the winged monkeys

Winged monkeys (often referred to in adaptations and popular culture as flying monkeys) are characters from The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, of enough impact between the books and the 1939 movie to have taken their own place in popular culture, regularly referenced in comedic or ironic situations as a source of evil or fear.

Baum

In the original Oz novels, these were just what the name implies: intelligent monkeys with wings. They were controlled by a golden hat, initially worn by the Wicked Witch of the West who used it to set the monkeys upon Dorothy and her friends. At one point they destroy the Scarecrow and Tin Woodman entirely, leaving them scattered across the landscape. In return, the Wicked Witch is allowed 3 wishes that leave her entirely responsible for any mishaps or misconceptions.



An account in the The Wonderful Wizard of Oz explained that the hat was made and imbued with power by a princess named Gayelette. When she was to marry a man named Quelala, the monkeys played a prank on him. Angry, she made the cap, and gave it to Quelala as a wedding present. Quelala merely ordered the monkeys to no longer play pranks, but somehow, the cap fell into the hands of the Wicked Witch. After her death, Dorothy used the cap three times, and finally gave it to Glinda, who ordered the monkeys to carry Dorothy's companions back to their homes in Oz, and then to cease to bother people, and then gave them the cap as their own, to free them.[1]

They were never included in any of the subsequent Oz books.

References in popular culture


* Flying monkeys have appeared in The Simpsons, Montgomery Burns owns a few of them, though they are unable to fly.

* Flying monkeys are mentioned in Buffy the Vampire Slayer as a demon species. Andrew Wells summoned a group of them attack a Sunnydale High drama club production of Romeo & Juliet.

* In the movie Jumanji, monkeys see inside a TV shop on a television the winged monkeys from the Wizard of Oz, so they break inside the shop and steal TV sets.

* In the 1973 movie Hunter, actual footage from the Wizard of Oz movie is used to brainwash a race-car driver, terrorizing him until he screamed the line "Stop the monkeys! PLEASE Stop the monkeys!"

* The music video for "Heretics & Killers" by Protest The Hero opens with a shot of the front page of a newspaper stating 'The Witch is Dead: Flying Monkeys Out of Work'. The remainder of the video features the bandmembers dressed as the Flying Monkeys, trying (and failing) at various jobs, begging on the street, getting thrown out of a bar, and rocking out.

* In the DCOM movie Halloweentown High Debbie Reynolds' character Aggie Cromwell say "Whoever heard of hockey without Flying Monkeys".

* United States Naval Academy midshipmen refer to West Point cadets as woops because of the similarity between the cadet's gray, high collar uniforms with those of the flying monkeys.

* In the Being Ian episode Is There an Ian in the House?, Nurse Sturgeon yells out "RELEASE THE FLYING MONKEYS!" Her assistant then says that flying monkeys don't exist.

* Justin and Josh the flying monkeys from family guy

* A Harpeth Hills Flying Monkey Marathon in Nashville, TN honors flying monkeys on the basis of a local legend.

* Political humorist Lewis Black made reference to evil flying monkeys while referring to North Korea in one of his stand-up bits.

* A pair of large flying monkey statues from the Wizard of Oz over look the city of Burlington Vermont. They sit atop the One Main building located on the waterfront of Lake Champlain. Architects inspired by the duo have copied the flying statues and incorporated other monkeys into a new structure on the waterfront near the One Main building. The Monkeys originally sat on top of a now closed water bed store, aptly titled " Emerald City Waterbeds", which was also in Burlington VT. The flying monkeys have become a must see for tourists and are one of Burlington's most beloved distinguishing landmarks.

* Flying monkeys appear in Fables (Vertigo), both at the Farm and Bufkin, an administrative assistant.

* Bat-winged monkeys called "mongbats" appear as monsters in the Ultima fantasy computer role-playing games from Origin Systems.[2]

* The 2007 Sci Fi television miniseries Tin Man depicts a re-imagining of Baum's world of Oz, including bat-winged monkeys called "mobats" that are the familiars of the sorceress Azkadellia.[3]

* X-Ray Dog, a company that makes music for movie trailers, recently released a piece called "Flying Monkeys".

* In the Disney film version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, at the climax of the film one of the gargoyles, Laverne, is seen commanding a flock of pigeons, reminiscent of the winged monkeys. She uses the same dialogue and arm movements of the Wicked Witch of the West in The Wizard of Oz, and the same background music plays.

[soulja]

just noticed a little similarity between the dead wicked witch and the Lily Allen album cover.




well done dorothy!

[cheeb]

Flying Monkeys Is A Theme To The BBC Coverage,
Of The Bejing 08.08.08 Olympic Games On The BBC Advert....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olym...ey/default.stm

This animated sequence, based on the classical Chinese novel, "Journey to the West", has been produced by Damon Albarn and Jamie Hewlett, the men behind virtual band Gorillaz.

It will feature on TV, radio, web and mobile, introducing coverage of the Games on BBC Sport - the Olympic broadcaster in the UK.

YouTube

YouTube

[cheeb]

Originally Posted by soulja

just noticed a little similarity between the dead wicked witch and the Lily Allen album cover.




well done dorothy!

I Posted Something Similar On TinTins Thread...

Goodbye Yellow Brick Road



From The Wizard Of Oz



Dorothy And The Red Slippers

There No Place Like Home...



The Pope And His Red Slippers...

There's No Place Like Rome

Does the Pope Wear Prada? -- The senior Vatican official says the loafers were actually made by the pope's personal cobbler. But Prada has refused to confirm or deny the reports, allowing the press speculation to continue. A spokesman for Prada said the fashion house lacked "the necessary elements" to make an accurate determination...



The Wicked Witch Was Crushed In The Wizard Of Oz,
That's How Dorothy Got The Slippers...



There Is A Superstorm Coming,
An Earthquake...


The China Earthquake May 15th

Notice The Butterfly..

Monarch...!!![/QUOTE]

[amethyst]

Originally Posted by soulja

i hear you, when i made the first post about SVD i said it's sick based on the movie cover and what i've read in the plot outline. but after watching the trailer sick wasn't sufficient enough anymore. i'd never watch the whole flick.
too much shit i don't need in my system. whatever valuable clues/info/symbolism it may contains it's just not worth it.

if you're interested in the thread you should start at
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...?t=3097&page=8

this is when the whole MK journey begins, most info/pictures posted now is building up on the info at the beginning/throughout the thread.

similar to your thread really.

It makes you realise that because it is SO vile and disgusting and beyond comprehension in it's evilness, that there seems to be influence of the inhuman.....beyond human comprehension...

There is definitely a satanic influence to even think up some of the stuff that makes up this debachery.....the ideas and inspiration for this stuff, is not human..In my opinion ......it's beyond human, where it "originates" from.......

[cheeb]

I Know What You Mean Amethyst,
When I Was Researching The Charles Manson Stuff,
There Was Some Clues To Satanic Ritual Sacrifice,
But The Images Were Too Disturbing,
That I Drew The Line There As To Not Post Them...

The War Message Carved Into The LaBianca Stomach,
Did Not Spell War But

XX AR

Like This:



Vampires....

[horseflesh]

I think it looked like the masonic symbol. As above so below. I was going to post it but thought it was rather bad taste

[cheeb]

The Cross Of Lorraine...



the Cross of Lorraine bears an uncanny resemblance to the sigil of Baphomet employed by British Magus Aleister Crowley,

[soulja]

Originally Posted by amethyst

It makes you realise that because it is SO vile and disgusting and beyond comprehension in it's evilness, that there seems to be influence of the inhuman.....beyond human comprehension...

There is definitely a satanic influence to even think up some of the stuff that makes up this debachery.....the ideas and inspiration for this stuff, is not human..In my opinion ......it's beyond human, where it "originates" from.......

good point, completely agree it's not human but otherworldly, demonic or extraterrestrial. could even be a combination of both.

the pure evil of it all just points that way. same goes for the conspiracy as a whole because it's so well executed and sophisticated it's just too smart to be the work of humans.

[hunkahunka]

The “carousel scene” is the climax of the story, so it’s found its way onto more than one cover. Here’s a cover featuring a more abstract rendition of the scene:




Russian version with rainbow

Holden pictures himself as a catcher in the rye; he imagines himself standing on a cliff in a field of rye with children playing tag around him, and as they strayed too close to the edge, he would be the one to catch them, and save them from falling.

[soulja]

regarding the Tate murder,

Tate was found with a slit throat hanging by one foot which resembles the Hanged man image in the tarot. it's also a favorite brotherhood way to kill a traitor. her closeness to bobby kennedy suggests she might have known too much about the killing. might even started to talk about it.

Tate's father was high up (colonel or something) in Naval Intelligence btw..

[brown velvet]

Originally Posted by soulja

i think when you're MK you won't get through the day without being triggered one way or another. except of course you turn your lights off and hide under your blanket.

'the one way or another' is broken down into many things, email being one of them?
And when they do that, those who don't know, say paranoid, agrophobia.... and those that do go, yeah, that programmings working then, they won't come out of their houses for weeks / months......


brown.