Wakey wakey

[kassondra8]

Originally Posted by ekim

Just out of curiousity, have you ever done mushrooms or LSD?

Hell yes! We think of drugs as physical substances, but in reality they are energy, a frequency. That energy (of hallucinogens at least) raises awareness and opens the mind to consciousness. They are a TOOL. If you want to get out of your false personality/ego, acid/shrooms are an easy way to do so, at least in my experience. Mushrooms seem to be more emotional and heavy than LSD. I used them to go deep into my subconscious and start dealing with all the nasty shit in there that I was afraid of and had been hiding from myself. Not a pleasant trip at all, but OMG worth it. The next day, I had never felt so light or happy in my entire life. We all have some nasty shit hiding in our subconscious, and that shit needs to be brought to the surface and dealt with. So ya, mushrooms, LSD, MDA, mescaline...all tools for self realization. To each his own, but I say, why not give it a try? That's what we're here to do after all, to experience life, to truly live.

[pythaem]

Originally Posted by kassondra8

Hell yes! We think of drugs as physical substances, but in reality they are energy, a frequency. That energy (of hallucinogens at least) raises awareness and opens the mind to consciousness. They are a TOOL. If you want to get out of your false personality/ego, acid/shrooms are an easy way to do so, at least in my experience. Mushrooms seem to be more emotional and heavy than LSD. I used them to go deep into my subconscious and start dealing with all the nasty shit in there that I was afraid of and had been hiding from myself. Not a pleasant trip at all, but OMG worth it. The next day, I had never felt so light or happy in my entire life. We all have some nasty shit hiding in our subconscious, and that shit needs to be brought to the surface and dealt with. So ya, mushrooms, LSD, MDA, mescaline...all tools for self realization. To each his own, but I say, why not give it a try? That's what we're here to do after all, to experience life, to truly live.

Ever try DMT or Salvia? I would love to try Salvia, just because it seems like it would be a useful tool, and not as long-lasting in case it was a bad "trip" (I hear it only lasts a few minutes) I tried LSD once when I was 15 but it was a verrrrrry small amount. Other than that i've only smoked pot lol. I'm really afraid to use those drugs.....but Salvia I could get on board with....if I only I could find some

[kassondra8]

Originally Posted by pythaem

Ever try DMT or Salvia? I would love to try Salvia, just because it seems like it would be a useful tool, and not as long-lasting in case it was a bad "trip" (I hear it only lasts a few minutes) I tried LSD once when I was 15 but it was a verrrrrry small amount. Other than that i've only smoked pot lol. I'm really afraid to use those drugs.....but Salvia I could get on board with....if I only I could find some

Ya, I've done salvia. Usually you can find it at smoke shops. No idea why they made it legal...That shit is intense, at least the concentrated kind. The high only lasts like 10/15 minutes, but wow. I couldn't walk, couldn't move, couldn't remember who or where I was. I fell to the floor within about 5 seconds of taking one big hit. It was like gravity no longer came from below, but from strong hands behind me shoving me to the floor. I was melting, the walls were melting. The hallway had what seemed like a thousand, melting doors. I knew I had had the urge to go into one of them (my bedroom) but could no longer remember where I wanted to go or why. I had NO IDEA I was on a drug. There was NO memory of my life, my self, my name, my location, my friends, my family. There was nothing but the confusion and the never-ending melting hallway. I sat there on the floor the whole time, slowly remembering who I was, and that I had just taken a drug. I pulled myself up by a door handle and stood there, utterly exhausted, feeling fucking pissed that the shit was legal....lol. All in all, I guess it was cool. It's an interesting story to share, but I didn't really get anything enlightening out of it. However, a lot of people do. The experience is EXTREMELY unique to the individual, as far as can tell. I have heard all kinds of weird salvia experiences, never two of the same or even similar. So I say, go for it. Don't let fear hold you back from doing/experiencing what you want to. Fear, after all, is only an illusion anyways. I just say Yes to drugs, and No to fear, lol. (Well, yes to hallucinogens and weed anyways. The PTB can take all their meth/cocaine/PCP/heroin/prescription bullshit/etc. and shove it up their fucking asses for all I care.) Anyways, if you find some, you should try it. It could be an AMAZING experience for you, and will definitely help you get over the fear of trying something else. I used to be terrified of acid. My first trip I only took one hit and could not believe how calm I was and how smooth the trip went. Barely even had any visuals. Trust me, one hit is not scary. Shrooms are more intense by far.

Good luck.

[fishonwheels]

Originally Posted by ekim

I read somewhere that if this energy shift takes place that lots of people will go insane and kill themselves. I think this is because these people will see the truth, and it is not at all like what we currently percieve.

For instance, if our vibration was to increase rapidly,this could attract outside attention, like shadow people, this I have seen. I saw these things jumping on my friends and basically feeding off them. For what ever reason I have always had a strong mind and have been able keep outside energies away from me.

So many people what to see the truth but how many can handle it?

I'm curious as to where you might've read that, about the energy shift being too much for some to handle. Seems like many define waking up as realizing we're not merely five sense reality, i guess getting a step closer to the truth.

Where I'm coming from, to be real honest, I've seen many abuses of the paranormal, guess you can say "black magic" or "negative entities" as some might call it.

Are you guys familiar with the term "gang stalking," aka cause/organized stalking? Sure a google search will return many results. Curiously most of these accounts came out online 2007 or after, which was when my own experiences exploded. There definitely is an occult dimension to my own experience involving telepathy/hive mind etc.

Ever had experience with hearing/projecting thoughts? At the most intense phase of my experience these people would be walking by while you hear things like "there he is...just push him over...figure it out!!" "Waking everybody up..." Makes more sense when you put it in context but.

I assure you it wasn't mental illness. The thought projection often went both ways as I'd think for eg "you're a dick" upon hearing their thought projections and they'd turn around smile or give me a look or react in other ways etc. How long has the world been this way? Any theories?

That was when I was first sensitized to the phrase "waking up," since I'd hear it so often projected by these people loud and clear. And this is why i'm probing for the definition of that.

Could waking up be just that? Going a little beyond the five sense? I like the working definition given beginning of this thread, about seeing reality clearly so you have the knowledge to make informed decisions.

Have had something like Spiral Out's experience as well though not as intense.

"so many want to see the truth but how many can handle it?"

Try me

[ekim]

By the sound of it you have a good idea what may be comming fishonwheels.

I'm just not so sure about those who have never had a glimpse outside the conditioned 5 senses, it could be very intense.

I once watched a dozen or so shadow people jump all over my friends, feeding off them and thier fear. I really didn't feel ill intentions from them, which is why I stayed calm and just watched.

We will not be able to hide anymore as well, others will hear and see our thoughts, just think about that.

Another thing that could happen is we may start to see the people who have passed on. My grandmother told me this after she died, she said that the spirit world and our world were merging.

Sure some people will be able to handle all this without ever experiencing altered states, others I'm not so sure about.

[fishonwheels]

Thanks Ekim for fast reply.

A very large percentage of people I cross paths with daily seem sixth sense attuned. Some of them thought wise, some feeling wise, some just know, some literally able to see things others can't. I take it you're one of these people?

People used to say "be careful" to me all the time after one look but never bothered to clarify. Perhaps there were literally entities feeding off of me? Can this weaken a person?

It seems many entities and flesh and blood humans do bad things to others not entirely out of malice but in order to "eat." Icke's inter-dimensional beings for one, feeding off of our negativity.

Have you always been able to see shadow people? Do you see anything else? What is the extent of your sixth sense? Have you formulated any theory about the world based on your direct experience? How would your version of reality differ with the official "secular/scientific" world view?

A bit general but I hope you can clarify.

Perhaps you can also direct us to relevant threads you've posted on before.

[itsallinus]

Originally Posted by fishonwheels

"so many want to see the truth but how many can handle it?"

This is a good question, I guess if people were not ready then it would be a major shock and most likely through infinite possibility we will see every kind of response/reaction. But this is where we come in, this is when those who understand and are aware can help those who find it too much. Nothing can stop what's happening (hooray!) so there will be many freaking out who may only need guidance and love, this will be a challenge we may well have to face and truth will be on our side. A long time ago those who could SEE beyond the five senses were respected and trusted above all else, at the moment they are nut jobs only fit for the asylum. This perception will change once more, in fact it already is, slowly..

[fishonwheels]

Originally Posted by itsallinus

at the moment they are nut jobs only fit for the asylum.

What percentage of people do you figure know there's so much more beyond the five sense? I've encountered many. Very many. Even the "priesthood" in the church of "mental health system."

I was in an asylum for two weeks for assaulting a roommate of mine. Long story. If you haven't heard of organized/cause stalking check it out many "targetted individuals" have come out since 2006. As usual once you're in there everything goes according to plan they label you "paranoid delusional." It's quite the charade.

The inmates were as "sensitive" as the everyday folks on the streets. When I was in there there was a girl that liked to pace back and forth while talking to herself out loud. A couple instances I thought something and she repeated word for word the entire sentences I just thought.

I never said a word about this to any of the staff. Soon after that my case manager kept asking me if i had heard other peoples' thoughts or they of mine. I denied it, of course. But every week for a couple months she'd press me on that. All this while other strange things were said by the doctors, too lengthy to get into right now.

If you look up paranoid delusional disorder hearing voices isn't exactly a diagnostic criterium. These mental health people are just as fully aware of what's going on as all the rest.

My question is this, if everybody knows, why don't they say so? This applies to other things. The emperor's new clothes. Who is this oppressive "big brother" everyone's so afraid of? What is it? Culture? the "system"? Neighbors? government?

Ever hung out with a large group of people and everyone wanted McDonalds later found out no one wanted McDonalds but "I suggested it cuz I thought you wanted it"?

Thoughts plz

[fishonwheels]

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[energi]

Edit: This thread is most definitely food for thought, I love this.

Originally Posted by fishonwheels

"so many want to see the truth but how many can handle it?"

Try me

Since I feel slightly scared when reading about the "shadow people", I wonder if I'd be one of those who will kill themselves?

Scared isn't the right word for me to use though, I don't mean frightened or scared shitless but a minor... discomfort (it's getting late over here)?

[cryst4l]

Originally Posted by itsallinus

By thinking that you are awake and that others are asleep, you may also be just as asleep as them. One thing I am waking up to (finally) is that telling others about the nwo is only feeding the nwo and helping to bring it into reality. The only thing we should be waking up to is ourselves, looking for truth within. So far as I know there is less than a handful of people on this forum that are near to waking up and I am not at that stage yet either. The rabbit hole is only the entrance.

Such a good post itsallinus

The law of attraction feeds what we despise the most!

The only place we can find the truth is within, and once you find that truth then the "rabbit hole" becomes much bigger and more powerful than anyone can imagine.

I have a little more faith though that there are more than a handful on here

[itsallinus]

Originally Posted by fishonwheels

What percentage of people do you figure know there's so much more beyond the five sense? I've encountered many. Very many. Even the "priesthood" in the church of "mental health system."

Well its starting to sink in how big the awakening really is, how many are not speaking up because they know what's going on and that there's more to all this but fear holds them back, they tend to keep themselves busy with material things and won't let themselves face the truth they are aware they know, too afraid to face themselves perhaps?

I was in an asylum for two weeks for assaulting a roommate of mine. Long story. If you haven't heard of organized/cause stalking check it out many "targetted individuals" have come out since 2006. As usual once you're in there everything goes according to plan they label you "paranoid delusional." It's quite the charade.

The inmates were as "sensitive" as the everyday folks on the streets. When I was in there there was a girl that liked to pace back and forth while talking to herself out loud. A couple instances I thought something and she repeated word for word the entire sentences I just thought.

I never said a word about this to any of the staff. Soon after that my case manager kept asking me if i had heard other peoples' thoughts or they of mine. I denied it, of course. But every week for a couple months she'd press me on that. All this while other strange things were said by the doctors, too lengthy to get into right now.

If you look up paranoid delusional disorder hearing voices isn't exactly a diagnostic criterium. These mental health people are just as fully aware of what's going on as all the rest.

My question is this, if everybody knows, why don't they say so? This applies to other things. The emperor's new clothes. Who is this oppressive "big brother" everyone's so afraid of? What is it? Culture? the "system"? Neighbors? government?

Ever hung out with a large group of people and everyone wanted McDonalds later found out no one wanted McDonalds but "I suggested it cuz I thought you wanted it"?

Thoughts plz

As long as they are fed small comforts every now and then they hang onto the illusion, perhaps they are not ready yet, perhaps their HS wants them to prolong the 'real' experience for now. we may be One but we have our higher self and it has its own simultaneous incarnations that each have their own awakening according to the HS, some my have awakened in a different linear time but it is still happening NOW.

[ekim]

Originally Posted by fishonwheels

Thanks Ekim for fast reply.

A very large percentage of people I cross paths with daily seem sixth sense attuned. Some of them thought wise, some feeling wise, some just know, some literally able to see things others can't. I take it you're one of these people?

People used to say "be careful" to me all the time after one look but never bothered to clarify. Perhaps there were literally entities feeding off of me? Can this weaken a person?
It seems many entities and flesh and blood humans do bad things to others not entirely out of malice but in order to "eat." Icke's inter-dimensional beings for one, feeding off of our negativity.

Have you always been able to see shadow people? Do you see anything else? What is the extent of your sixth sense? Have you formulated any theory about the world based on your direct experience? How would your version of reality differ with the official "secular/scientific" world view?

A bit general but I hope you can clarify.

Perhaps you can also direct us to relevant threads you've posted on before.

I am definately in the sensitive side of the 5 sense world, I only catch glimpes of what else is out there. I don't see aura's but see coloured light on or near people at times. I often feel things I can't explain, I seem to have always been able to feel others fears. Just yesterday I heard about some concentration camps set up for "swine flu"(not sure it's true) and then read a post on here about people running in to get thier vaccine. I was overwhelmed with fear, had the start of an anxiety attack, but quickly realized I was feeling the people fear, they are so fucking scared. I refuse to let that effect me.

I do see shadow people quite often, but it's usually brief and/or out of the corner of my eye. The one time I did plainly see and watch shadow people was durring an acid trip. I think those who have done "halucinogenics" may find it less of a shock when they start to see things while sober, which many are doing.

I have a friend that has just started see things out of the corner of his eye, he was scared to tell anyone as he sorta thought he was losing it. His girlfriend told him he's fine cause lots of us have been seeing these things for quite awhile.

More and more people are gonna end up in the "mental" hospitals for no other reason than nobody will tell them they are fine. I feel for the girl who could read minds, thats amazing yet she is rejected and made t believe she is crazy.

There are many people walking around with entities attatched to them, but don't worry they are easy to get rid of. You just have to go inside yourself and feel your bodies. Feel for areas that are hot, cold, painful or even just heavy. These are possible areas that have entities, or possibly emotional blocks. Whether it's entities or emotions, they can be released. Ask in a strong but respectful way that they return to where they came from. You could do some visualizing of the release or physically make gestures of cutting them free, do what ever your intuition tells you. I'm not into traditionally ways of doing things, although they are good for basic understanding, I think everyone has thier own ways of healing themselves. So don't worry that you don't know what you are doing because you do, we all do, we just limit ourselves.

Since I feel slightly scared when reading about the "shadow people", I wonder if I'd be one of those who will kill themselves?

Scared isn't the right word for me to use though, I don't mean frightened or scared shitless but a minor... discomfort (it's getting late over here)?

I think these beings work sort of like contracts, you have to allow them to do anything to you, fear is looked at like an agreement. I think there are other ways of contracting with them as well, but like all contracts, they can be ended.

[fishonwheels]

Originally Posted by itsallinus

As long as they are fed small comforts every now and then they hang onto the illusion, perhaps they are not ready yet, perhaps their HS wants them to prolong the 'real' experience for now. we may be One but we have our higher self and it has its own simultaneous incarnations that each have their own awakening according to the HS, some my have awakened in a different linear time but it is still happening NOW.

I see. I take it that "HS" stands for higher self?

Thanks for the feedback itsallinus but the paragraph in red in post #32 wasn't by me lol.