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Old 02-02-2014, 11:24 PM   #21
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No I don't think she is.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:30 PM   #22
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I do not believe there is any stipulation that allows you to arrest or even seriously hope to detain any royal let alone the queen. You have to take whatever they do up the ass and like it. You can't do anything to her. She can hunt down and eat babies all year long and no one can do anything about it now anymore than they could when one of the bloody royals was on the loose as Jack the Ripper and everyone knows who it was for cryin' out loud! The Royals brag about it in private after enough to drink! They get off on the gore. I heard Phillip laughed so hard at how Caradine (Kung Fu) died that he nearly died himself from a coronary rolling on the floor! Much like the gore of Roman times the royals still partake of that stuff in private. I'm sure the Queen and the rest of them got a good laugh out of that broadcast. Your history over there shows quite plain how the royals see life and how they see any of the commoners and lets face it the rest of the world is theirs to do with as they please. Who would dare stop them? When Phillip and the Queen were in Africa and out in the bush and he pulled up a gun and shot a rare white rhino that happened to cross in front of him everyone there prayed he wouldn't see it because they knew he'd shoot it dead! He did just that and who among them dared do a damn thing? None of them and some big men in there you'd think! Nope not a whimper! Not even a small write up in the paper and yet it was a national treasure! Arrest the Queen? What a laugh!
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:35 PM   #23
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Is it not a little naive to think that the head of the cartel is going to be arrested by the cartel?
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:41 PM   #24
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For fuck's sake, more of this ITCCS bullshit?

Nobody is getting arrested. These guys are not cops, prosecutors, judges, or juries. They're nobodies. They don't have the authority to arrest or convict anyone, and they certainly don't have the power.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:42 PM   #25
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The queen swore an oath on her coronation to uphold common law and govern the people under the law of God: She swore to

to govern the Peoples of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...... according to their respective laws and customs

cause Law and Justice, in Mercy, to be executed in all your judgements

... to the utmost of your power maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel...


And she swore to do so with 'so help me God.'

http://www.royal.gov.uk/ImagesandBro...2June1953.aspx

Police officers swear:

I, ... of ... do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable.

Judicial Affirmation


(President of the Supreme Court
Deputy President of the Supreme Court
Justices of the Supreme Court
Lord Chancellor of Great Britain
Recorder of London
Master of the Court of Protection[17]
Justices of the Peace
Lord Justice General and Lord President of the Court of Session
Lord Justice Clerk
Judges of the Court of Session)

I, (name), do solemnly sincerely and truly declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve our Sovereign Lady Queen Elizabeth in the office of (office), and I will do right to all manner of people after the laws and usages of this Realm without fear or favour, affection or ill will.

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Given that the entire legal and judicial system of the United Kingdom is based A) on the sovereigns attitude to serve under God alone and B) that those empowered to serve and administer the law are sworn to serve the sovereign, there is no officer of law or court in this land who could uphold any judgement or accusation leveled at the crown.

And that is how fucked up this system of governance is - any move to charge or try the sovereign of this land would be deemed as treasonous.

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Old 02-02-2014, 11:43 PM   #26
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Anyone can arrest someone. It's called citizens arrest.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:46 PM   #27
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Anyone can arrest someone. It's called citizens arrest.
Care to go the Buckingham Palace and try that one out?

I'd just like to say, as a reflection of that though - just because you can't doesn't mean that it isn't right to do so
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:19 AM   #28
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Care to go the Buckingham Palace and try that one out?

I'd just like to say, as a reflection of that though - just because you can't doesn't mean that it isn't right to do so
I haven't quite learned how to do it yet though.
I take it you have to say certain thing. Do you know what are these?
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:30 AM   #29
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The reigning monarch can't be arrested or charged in a court.
The crown 'is' the court. Charges are brought as "Regina versus X".
The crown cannot prosecute itself.
That came in because they learnt their lesson after Charles 1st was arrested and executed.
One of the first things Charles 2nd did after the restoration of the monarchy here was to legislate and render the monarch immune form any and all prosecutions.
It's a bit like ' Diplomatic Immunity' but wearing a crown.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:40 AM   #30
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What about superseding ?
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:42 AM   #31
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I haven't quite learned how to do it yet though.
I take it you have to say certain thing. Do you know what are these?
Well, first of all you would have to have clear evidence that a crime had been committed, this would generally be from a pov that you were witness to the crime as it was perpetrated. At that point you, as a citizen, have lawful right to act and make a citizens arrest.

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Any person can arrest a person who is in the act of committing an indictable offence or
Anyone whom he reasonably suspects to be committing such an offence, if
it is not reasonably practicable for a constable to make the arrest instead and
it is necessary to arrest the person for one of the below reasons,

To prevent the person in question,

causing physical injury to himself or any other person;
suffering physical injury;
causing loss of or damage to property; or
making off before a constable can assume responsibility for him.
Wherein you could just say 'i am making a citizens arrest,' and cart the person off to the local police station or nearest constable.

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You can make an arrest if the suspect is actually committing the offence or if you reasonably suspect them of committing it, or when the offence has been committed and you reasonably suspect them of having committed it.
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q508.htm

However, arresting a person (note the term person) who is committing a criminal act, and arresting a person for a committal of an apparent criminal act are very different things.

However: from a point of view that a criminal act has been committed, after the fact, (as given here) the act and crime would need to be reported to the police and / or Scotland Yard, and such evidence as may exist would need to be presented for an arrest to take place.

In note to the term 'person' - is the Queen a person, or a head of state, ie a position held or title?

Elizabeth Regina is also a title, as is Elizabeth 11.

Elizabeth Windsor is the person. Or is it?

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Old 03-02-2014, 12:47 AM   #32
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Well, first of all you would have to have clear evidence that a crime had been committed,
ah, that's what I thought.

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this would generally be from a pov that you were witness to the crime as it was perpetrated. At that point you, as a citizen, have lawful right to act and make a citizens arrest.
So basically, you can't go arresting every Tom, Dick and Harry just because you feel like it then.... I guess that makes sense though.

As for the term 'person'....this is something I don't understand yet.... re: name on the birth certificate and you as in flesh and blood.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:49 AM   #33
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What about superseding ?
That was what Cromwell used on Charlie 1...

superseding cause along the lines of “ We would never really have expected that you would be such a lousy King so we can create a tribunal to try you. King or not."
Charlie 2 enacts.... Only the crown and its authorised agents can ever prosecute and the crown ( but not its agents) cannot be prosecuted, ever.
I reckon old Charlie 2 was a bit ticked off about what happened his old Dad. Hence he took steps to ensure that couldn't happen to him nor any monarchs after him.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:56 AM   #34
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Started a thread about this a while back.

I was sickened.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267837
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:11 AM   #35
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Started a thread about this a while back.

I was sickened.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267837
i tried to merge, but messed it up somehow....

Anywho, i'll quote your post here too so people can link it all in

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Apologies if posted before/or in wrong place.

More sickening revelations/allegations.

Just wanted to share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CQGavtZ_0U

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Old 03-02-2014, 01:20 AM   #36
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Citizens arrest or confession

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Heheh, awesome

EDIT: he's using the wrong finger

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Jesus this is massive.....
He says the MSM and alternative media are working on this together....
he's probably working with a couple of decent msm journalists who see most of his research is backed up with some sort of evidence and can't dispute his allegations.

I reckon 80% of msm journalists just need a tiny push and they'll admit they've been reporting bullshit for years.
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