Raw Foods and Reptilians

[teslafire]

David Wolfe is a raw food messiah and resides in San Diego. He has said that a high energy raw food diet allows one to be see Reptilians. He's writing a book that will explain this shortly, just thought to introduce him to y'all if you've yet heard of him. He's a big David Icke fan too.

Here's an interview transcript:

http://www.living-foods.com/articles...interview.html

[pollock]

That would make sense of peoples frantic cooking, boiling, roasting and frying paranoia (its the illuminati again ) , Ive been wondering about that!

F

[earthseed]

I'm sure it frees up your third eye I can only use my intuition when it comes to 'seeing' the numerous other beings that fill this reality.

[Ratiocinator]

I am very suspicious about David Wolfe, and his English comrade, Shazzie www.shazzie.com .

I think they have released some amazing information, and I am even considering buying some more of their products (one-book thus far), even a website subscription (for a short while). But I smell a really big human concerning them.

Shazzie has a friend called Lucifer and another with a pentagram tattoo (see her photos page). They charge huge amounts of money for products, which are much cheaper elsewhere. They are charging £50 just to hear David Wolfe speak for a single evening. They are charging hundreds of pounds for a raw food event, to be held later this year. Hundreds of pounds (£500+) for a three-day event during which people get to hear them talk about raw foods (not much else). Shazzie has made it very clear that anyone could be removed without a stated reason from the Wolfe talk, and with no refund given, if they feel like getting rid of a person! So if they do not like your face, or you don’t smile inanely enough, then you are out the door.

Try finding torrents for their many videos (or any raw food documentaries for that matter, apart from Breakthrough) and you will not have much luck. Look through the David Wolfe subscription page and it is filled with sales gimmicks and inflated prices (e.g. you save $200 on this 40-minute interview for subscribing for a month at $30, etc.).

They both like to hang out with Uri Geller, if that means anything?

They quote a [living] Rothschild, and other elites, in their book Naked Chocolate!

Whatever their motives they are certainly very greedy. They both claim to want to improve health, save animals and improve the world. If that were the case they would allow more of their work to be seen for free, instead of charging £40 for a short video of Shazzie in the kitchen preparing foods!

People with a cause to fight for charge the bare minimum that they need to pay their bills and stay in business. They do not charge massively inflated prices for various things thus creating huge profit margins. For examples of this just look at the 9/11 / Illuminati truth movement.

Shazzie, alone, grosses around £3,000,000 per year just in raw cacao sales. Add to that the income from her online and high street shops, talks, book sales, etc., and you can get a very good idea of how much money she makes. David Wolfe is even more respected; he has been around for years in the health / raw food business, and must be making several times more than Shazzie.

Have you heard David Wolfe’s band, The Healing Waters Band? Google for some samples; they have some very interesting lyrics (I will post a link if you fail to find anything).

As I said, they have some extremely good information available, and I think I will be buying some more of their material. Their recipes are life changing and excellent. But all does not seem well with them.

[kristian lee]

Originally Posted by Ratiocinator

I am very suspicious about David Wolfe, and his English comrade, Shazzie www.shazzie.com .

I think they have released some amazing information, and I am even considering buying some more of their products (one-book thus far), even a website subscription (for a short while). But I smell a really big human concerning them.

Shazzie has a friend called Lucifer and another with a pentagram tattoo (see her photos page). They charge huge amounts of money for products, which are much cheaper elsewhere. They are charging £50 just to hear David Wolfe speak for a single evening. They are charging hundreds of pounds for a raw food event, to be held later this year. Hundreds of pounds (£500+) for a three-day event during which people get to hear them talk about raw foods (not much else). Shazzie has made it very clear that anyone could be removed without a stated reason from the Wolfe talk, and with no refund given, if they feel like getting rid of a person! So if they do not like your face, or you don’t smile inanely enough, then you are out the door.

Try finding torrents for their many videos (or any raw food documentaries for that matter, apart from Breakthrough) and you will not have much luck. Look through the David Wolfe subscription page and it is filled with sales gimmicks and inflated prices (e.g. you save $200 on this 40-minute interview for subscribing for a month at $30, etc.).

They both like to hang out with Uri Geller, if that means anything?

They quote a [living] Rothschild, and other elites, in their book Naked Chocolate!

Whatever their motives they are certainly very greedy. They both claim to want to improve health, save animals and improve the world. If that were the case they would allow more of their work to be seen for free, instead of charging £40 for a short video of Shazzie in the kitchen preparing foods!

People with a cause to fight for charge the bare minimum that they need to pay their bills and stay in business. They do not charge massively inflated prices for various things thus creating huge profit margins. For examples of this just look at the 9/11 / Illuminati truth movement.

Shazzie, alone, grosses around £3,000,000 per year just in raw cacao sales. Add to that the income from her online and high street shops, talks, book sales, etc., and you can get a very good idea of how much money she makes. David Wolfe is even more respected; he has been around for years in the health / raw food business, and must be making several times more than Shazzie.

Have you heard David Wolfe’s band, The Healing Waters Band? Google for some samples; they have some very interesting lyrics (I will post a link if you fail to find anything).

As I said, they have some extremely good information available, and I think I will be buying some more of their material. Their recipes are life changing and excellent. But all does not seem well with them.

I spend several years in the raw food movement studying the works of many different teachers, including David Wolfe, and was in fact a 100% raw food eater for 2 years so I do have a good understanding of what you are talking about.

You have every reason to be suspicious of David Wolfe. He founded his entire career on the theft of someone elses work. David's first book, Nature's First Law: The Raw Food Diet, is actually a plaigarised verson of a book called Raw Eating that was written many years ago by an Iranian author called A T Hovannessian. You can find a comparison of the two books here: http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/20056.html When I first came across this information, I found it so hard to believe that I bought a copy of Raw Eating to see for myself, and to my utter astonishment, I found that 3/4 of Hovanessian's book had been lifted virtually word for word, with Wolfe giving no credit to Hovanessian. Raw eating had been out of print for many years when Wolfe published Natures's First Law, so he naively thought he would get away with it. It was only when he was caught out that he changed later editions of the book to contain a vague message of gratitiude to Hovannessian for his contribution while still claiming authorship of the book.

David Wolfe has set himself up as a self-proclaimed messiah of the raw food world. He was taught by Anthony Robbins, and the techniques he uses to manipulate people into buying his expensive suppliments by playing on peoples fears and insecurities are similiar to that of a cult leader. I have been to two of Wolfe's talks so I have seen this first hand. The man has made millions out of the raw food movement, and could choose never to work another day in his life and still spend it in the lap of luxury, but despite the fact that he claims to be on a mission to save the planet and peoples health, he still charges an extortionate amount of money for his talks, books and suppliments. To say that the man is greedy would be a severe understatement.

I really thought that nothing could suprise me about Wolfe, but when you said that anyone could be removed from David's talks without reason or refund, I have to admit that I really found that hard to believe, but I have checked Shazzie's website and there it is in black and white. What the statement is effectively saying is that anyone who doesn't go along to David's talk with a beaming smile on their faces, moist with anticipation about what the "Great One" has to say will be removed. Well or course it has to be that way, David wouldn't want his shady past to catch up with him, would he? It is exactly the same on the forum on his website. All posts have to go through a moderator for approval before they can be posted. This is censorship at its most extreme. Heaven forbid that people should go along to David's talks with an open, yet questioning mind, for that could be dangerous for the future of the Wolfe empire. The sad fact is that more and more people are being sucked into this and parting with large amounts of hard earned cash for suppliments that promise the earth and deliver very little. While some of the information he presents is useful, most of it is poorely researched hype that plays on his audiences deeply rooted fears and insecurites, and in the age of internet, you can easily find the valuable information for free elsewhere.

I gave up on the raw food diet many years ago. The raw food movement is full of unhappy people who have been sucked into believing that raw food is the miracle answer to everything that is wrong in thier lives, and of course that isn't the case, in fact I found the reverse to be true. The whole idea of eating raw is founded on fear. Pick up any raw food book and you will find at least the first third of it filled with horror stories of what cooked food will do to, warning that if you do not change your eating habits, you can expect a multitude of horrific health problems. Most people who eat raw look thin and ill. When I was eating raw, my weight dropped to nine and a half stone and I lost all confidence in myself. Of course, the raw food teachers would argue that this is just part of the detoxification process and that I would eventually put the weight back on, but this never happened. Nor did the heightened spiritual perception or the feeling of being on a permament high that was also promised by the diet.

There are also the social implications of the raw food diet that need to be taken into consideration. Eating out or drinking with friends can prove to be a huge problem as alcohol is an absolute no no, for you will be undoing the good that the raw food diet is doing for you. I started to feel extremely isolated from my cooked food friends and this lead to my becoming depressed, not least because my new raw food social circles consisted on people who I really did not like. These people were clearly not happy with themselves or life, but masked this with a holier and thou idea that they were so much better than cooked food eaters, despite the fact that most of them looked like Aids patients in their final weeks of life.

I still do believe that it is a good idea to eat plenty of raw food in your diet, but it is a question of balance. Diet is an important part of being healthy, but so is being happy, and the restrictions the raw food diet placed on my life made me miserable as sin, and I really do believe that anyone interested in commiting wholeheatedly to the raw food diet should consider the lifestyle implications very carefully before doing so.

[whitelightrabbit]

it sounds like wolfe is going to cash in on some of icke's ideas now.

[ant777uk]

Originally Posted by kristian lee

I spend several years in the raw food movement studying the works of many different teachers, including David Wolfe, and was in fact a 100% raw food eater for 2 years so I do have a good understanding of what you are talking about.

You have every reason to be suspicious of David Wolfe. He founded his entire career on the theft of someone elses work. David's first book, Nature's First Law: The Raw Food Diet, is actually a plaigarised verson of a book called Raw Eating that was written many years ago by an Iranian author called A T Hovannessian. You can find a comparison of the two books here: http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/20056.html When I first came across this information, I found it so hard to believe that I bought a copy of Raw Eating to see for myself, and to my utter astonishment, I found that 3/4 of Hovanessian's book had been lifted virtually word for word, with Wolfe giving no credit to Hovanessian. Raw eating had been out of print for many years when Wolfe published Natures's First Law, so he naively thought he would get away with it. It was only when he was caught out that he changed later editions of the book to contain a vague message of gratitiude to Hovannessian for his contribution while still claiming authorship of the book.

David Wolfe has set himself up as a self-proclaimed messiah of the raw food world. He was taught by Anthony Robbins, and the techniques he uses to manipulate people into buying his expensive suppliments by playing on peoples fears and insecurities are similiar to that of a cult leader. I have been to two of Wolfe's talks so I have seen this first hand. The man has made millions out of the raw food movement, and could choose never to work another day in his life and still spend it in the lap of luxury, but despite the fact that he claims to be on a mission to save the planet and peoples health, he still charges an extortionate amount of money for his talks, books and suppliments. To say that the man is greedy would be a severe understatement.

I really thought that nothing could suprise me about Wolfe, but when you said that anyone could be removed from David's talks without reason or refund, I have to admit that I really found that hard to believe, but I have checked Shazzie's website and there it is in black and white. What the statement is effectively saying is that anyone who doesn't go along to David's talk with a beaming smile on their faces, moist with anticipation about what the "Great One" has to say will be removed. Well or course it has to be that way, David wouldn't want his shady past to catch up with him, would he? It is exactly the same on the forum on his website. All posts have to go through a moderator for approval before they can be posted. This is censorship at its most extreme. Heaven forbid that people should go along to David's talks with an open, yet questioning mind, for that could be dangerous for the future of the Wolfe empire. The sad fact is that more and more people are being sucked into this and parting with large amounts of hard earned cash for suppliments that promise the earth and deliver very little. While some of the information he presents is useful, most of it is poorely researched hype that plays on his audiences deeply rooted fears and insecurites, and in the age of internet, you can easily find the valuable information for free elsewhere.

I gave up on the raw food diet many years ago. The raw food movement is full of unhappy people who have been sucked into believing that raw food is the miracle answer to everything that is wrong in thier lives, and of course that isn't the case, in fact I found the reverse to be true. The whole idea of eating raw is founded on fear. Pick up any raw food book and you will find at least the first third of it filled with horror stories of what cooked food will do to, warning that if you do not change your eating habits, you can expect a multitude of horrific health problems. Most people who eat raw look thin and ill. When I was eating raw, my weight dropped to nine and a half stone and I lost all confidence in myself. Of course, the raw food teachers would argue that this is just part of the detoxification process and that I would eventually put the weight back on, but this never happened. Nor did the heightened spiritual perception or the feeling of being on a permament high that was also promised by the diet.

There are also the social implications of the raw food diet that need to be taken into consideration. Eating out or drinking with friends can prove to be a huge problem as alcohol is an absolute no no, for you will be undoing the good that the raw food diet is doing for you. I started to feel extremely isolated from my cooked food friends and this lead to my becoming depressed, not least because my new raw food social circles consisted on people who I really did not like. These people were clearly not happy with themselves or life, but masked this with a holier and thou idea that they were so much better than cooked food eaters, despite the fact that most of them looked like Aids patients in their final weeks of life.

I still do believe that it is a good idea to eat plenty of raw food in your diet, but it is a question of balance. Diet is an important part of being healthy, but so is being happy, and the restrictions the raw food diet placed on my life made me miserable as sin, and I really do believe that anyone interested in commiting wholeheatedly to the raw food diet should consider the lifestyle implications very carefully before doing so.

Well said mate.

[gaias child]

I used to really like David Wolfe , as a long term follower of raw food and felt happy that he was a good spokeman for the raw community and when he used to talk about the benefits of fresh fruit and green leaves and wild foods and nuts and seeds for healthy nutrition. Then he moved down the superfoods route, selling goji berries at an extortionate price , when you could get them at the asian market really quite cheaply. Then Cacao maca, maca extreme, goji extract, goji juice etc, coconut and all manner of expensive superfoods, so now the diet he promotes doesn't have any fresh livng alive foods in it at all any more just dehydrated dead food under the guise of raw food.

I saw a recipe on his site recently which was as follows

3 tbs of cacao powder
3 Tbs of cacao nibs
Tbs maca
tsp maca extreme
3 tbs goji berries
1 tsp goji extract
2 tbs of cocnut oil
drops of crystal energy
salt
reishi
other ingrendients and herbs

That amount of cacao is going to give you adrenal problems and then there is addition of the salt which dehydrates you but we have got the crystal energy to rehydrate you, the cacao and maca to stimulate you and the herbs like reishi to relax you.

Most people wouldn't know whether they were coming or going with this lot.

That is what I don't understand about all this stuff. It has got nothing to do with raw natural foods. It is not accessible to those who don't have 1000s of ££££ $$$$ to spend on food.

[ithink]

I think that this idea (of eating raw food enables you to see reptillians) is simply a marketing tool. Think of what the "fans" of reptillians will do. They will go on a 100% raw food diet. An Wolfe`s income would go + 100%.

And we can see from a couple of posts in here, that this Wolfe is like a illuminati-placed-puppet to spread the misinformation.

My 2 cents... :P

[chris]

I read the interview, I didn't see any mentions of reptilians...

[thetonic]

Originally Posted by chris

I read the interview, I didn't see any mentions of reptilians...

lol... Chris you are up on the raw foods , I used to be way more into it... I love that post by Kristian exposing that snake ioil salesman Wolfe for what he is ..

I totally lold at that post you made about the raw foods cult a week back .. that guy is freeking scary man .. THat behaviour is totally annoying in fact most raw foodists ive met are totally annoying

Cant people just eat healthy and not turn into one of these creeps?

[lenejento]

Originally Posted by kristian lee

I spend several years in the raw food movement studying the works of many different teachers, including David Wolfe, and was in fact a 100% raw food eater for 2 years so I do have a good understanding of what you are talking about.

You have every reason to be suspicious of David Wolfe. He founded his entire career on the theft of someone elses work. David's first book, Nature's First Law: The Raw Food Diet, is actually a plaigarised verson of a book called Raw Eating that was written many years ago by an Iranian author called A T Hovannessian. You can find a comparison of the two books here: http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/20056.html When I first came across this information, I found it so hard to believe that I bought a copy of Raw Eating to see for myself, and to my utter astonishment, I found that 3/4 of Hovanessian's book had been lifted virtually word for word, with Wolfe giving no credit to Hovanessian. Raw eating had been out of print for many years when Wolfe published Natures's First Law, so he naively thought he would get away with it. It was only when he was caught out that he changed later editions of the book to contain a vague message of gratitiude to Hovannessian for his contribution while still claiming authorship of the book.

David Wolfe has set himself up as a self-proclaimed messiah of the raw food world. He was taught by Anthony Robbins, and the techniques he uses to manipulate people into buying his expensive suppliments by playing on peoples fears and insecurities are similiar to that of a cult leader. I have been to two of Wolfe's talks so I have seen this first hand. The man has made millions out of the raw food movement, and could choose never to work another day in his life and still spend it in the lap of luxury, but despite the fact that he claims to be on a mission to save the planet and peoples health, he still charges an extortionate amount of money for his talks, books and suppliments. To say that the man is greedy would be a severe understatement.

I really thought that nothing could suprise me about Wolfe, but when you said that anyone could be removed from David's talks without reason or refund, I have to admit that I really found that hard to believe, but I have checked Shazzie's website and there it is in black and white. What the statement is effectively saying is that anyone who doesn't go along to David's talk with a beaming smile on their faces, moist with anticipation about what the "Great One" has to say will be removed. Well or course it has to be that way, David wouldn't want his shady past to catch up with him, would he? It is exactly the same on the forum on his website. All posts have to go through a moderator for approval before they can be posted. This is censorship at its most extreme. Heaven forbid that people should go along to David's talks with an open, yet questioning mind, for that could be dangerous for the future of the Wolfe empire. The sad fact is that more and more people are being sucked into this and parting with large amounts of hard earned cash for suppliments that promise the earth and deliver very little. While some of the information he presents is useful, most of it is poorely researched hype that plays on his audiences deeply rooted fears and insecurites, and in the age of internet, you can easily find the valuable information for free elsewhere.

I gave up on the raw food diet many years ago. The raw food movement is full of unhappy people who have been sucked into believing that raw food is the miracle answer to everything that is wrong in thier lives, and of course that isn't the case, in fact I found the reverse to be true. The whole idea of eating raw is founded on fear. Pick up any raw food book and you will find at least the first third of it filled with horror stories of what cooked food will do to, warning that if you do not change your eating habits, you can expect a multitude of horrific health problems. Most people who eat raw look thin and ill. When I was eating raw, my weight dropped to nine and a half stone and I lost all confidence in myself. Of course, the raw food teachers would argue that this is just part of the detoxification process and that I would eventually put the weight back on, but this never happened. Nor did the heightened spiritual perception or the feeling of being on a permament high that was also promised by the diet.

There are also the social implications of the raw food diet that need to be taken into consideration. Eating out or drinking with friends can prove to be a huge problem as alcohol is an absolute no no, for you will be undoing the good that the raw food diet is doing for you. I started to feel extremely isolated from my cooked food friends and this lead to my becoming depressed, not least because my new raw food social circles consisted on people who I really did not like. These people were clearly not happy with themselves or life, but masked this with a holier and thou idea that they were so much better than cooked food eaters, despite the fact that most of them looked like Aids patients in their final weeks of life.

I still do believe that it is a good idea to eat plenty of raw food in your diet, but it is a question of balance. Diet is an important part of being healthy, but so is being happy, and the restrictions the raw food diet placed on my life made me miserable as sin, and I really do believe that anyone interested in commiting wholeheatedly to the raw food diet should consider the lifestyle implications very carefully before doing so.

Thanks for sharing! Appreciate it

Luckily, I've never spent any money on Wolfe then.

I'm trying out his smoothie, in which I use:
3tb cocoa
some cayanne
coconut milk + water
3tb maca
1tb goji berry
some honey/yacon
some cashews

What's it doing for me?
Well I feel more energetic (but could be for other reasons), feel like I can go on for longer.
Also, I've put on some more healthy weight (in the right places ), but could be for other reasons. It is a very rich smoothie, one glass makes me feel quite full.

I can see Wolfe being a very clever business man and marketer.

I am not all raw at all, but am eating more fruit, drinking fresh juices and having more salads etc, and I'm not gonna stress myself out over diet.

[chris]

Originally Posted by thetonic

lol... Chris you are up on the raw foods , I used to be way more into it... I love that post by Kristian exposing that snake ioil salesman Wolfe for what he is ..

I totally lold at that post you made about the raw foods cult a week back .. that guy is freeking scary man .. THat behaviour is totally annoying in fact most raw foodists ive met are totally annoying

Cant people just eat healthy and not turn into one of these creeps?

I think from coming from the conspiracy camp, we are just fed up of the mind control and when you see a guy blatantly appealing to the lowest common denominator you just want to sink your face deeply into your hands.

Don't get me wrong, I'm totally down with raw food but I distance myself from the raw food people as much as possible

I'm sure there's a lot of normal people among them as well, it's just the more flamboyant amongst them make the whole lot look totally stupid.

Here's what we're talking about if other people don't know...

Go Raw Now Trailer - YouTube

Go Raw Now Trailer - YouTube

The best way to start a movement is to firstly be 100% correct and secondly to appeal to the innovators. This will turn the lesser discerned innovators right off...

[chris]

As for David Wolfe ripping off his book from someone else, I think that's true for almost everyone...Raw books are pretty much identical regarding arguments for going raw, in fact doing my own research before going raw, I came up with the same arguments myself and then found that they were already written down...

I think the best people in the raw movement are the people that are living proof of raw living and humble about it. That running raw guy is an excellent spokesman and so are many women with before/after photo's...

Personally even if I become superman on raw food, I'm not even going to advocate diet, it just makes people judge you.

[particlezen]

paying that much attention to what you eat keeps you locked in body-consciousness.

how many times are we told "you are what you eat?"

food is control, keeping you focussed on your body, making you think that your body is YOU, when in fact it is just the car your mind is driving.

[chris]

Originally Posted by particlezen

paying that much attention to what you eat keeps you locked in body-consciousness.

how many times are we told "you are what you eat?"

food is control, keeping you focussed on your body, making you think that your body is YOU, when in fact it is just the car your mind is driving.

Yeah but your car would drive a lot more efficiently on good clean petrol and not junky shit that will grind your engine...No matter how careful the driver, he can help the lifespan of the engine with proper maintenance.

I agree that you shouldn't obsess over it though.

[particlezen]

Originally Posted by chris

Yeah but your car would drive a lot more efficiently on good clean petrol and not junky shit that will grind your engine...No matter how careful the driver, he can help the lifespan of the engine with proper maintenance.

I agree that you shouldn't obsess over it though.

that goes without saying, we all know what happens if you do the mcdonalds diet.

[gaias child]

That Living food interview is old about 10 years old, he doesn't eat like that at all any more.

He now lives on cacao maca goji berries coconut oil, marine phytoplankton algae and ormus gold and herbs.

I don't think there is anything wrong with eating foods that nature provides ie fruit and veg rather than some processed crap pretending to be raw food, still if gets people eating healthier, and they feel better for it, than maybe there is some good in it.

I have been way into raw food for a long time and those things make me feel ill in large amounts. I did it for a while and didn't feel quite right and blamed it on the raw food and kept trying more and more supplements and superfoods to get better and just got iller, you can get really hooked into it. I think some of it is useful but it is just the way it is marketed that I find offputting

I like the guy, but am suspicious esp the ormus gold, after all he does quote laurence gardner (illuminati) who first brought white gold to attention and David Hudson, not too mention what anna hayes says about it, in the monatomic gold thread, about it being an illuminati reptilian agenda.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/annah...gold2000.shtml

who knows, I don't but the stuff on another website jeff rense shows how it damges your dna. I don't feel that comforable around info like that.

[tothestars]

I dont remember if i had a diet that time but 6-7 years ago i had a "heavy" meditation on the third eye and what happened is that i saw persons that in my appartment that shouldnt have been there. They were as real as eyeryone else and they were mostly ok dudes
Still i got a bit nervous (not afraid tho) so i am not doing it during night anymore.

I try to eat less meat nowadays and focus on vegetables and fruits but damn it is hard to change habit when you have blodtype 0 I guess i have to take it slowly

[tracker]

Originally Posted by chris

I read the interview, I didn't see any mentions of reptilians...

i never saw anything on reptilians iether .

looks like this dude maybe trying to cash in on the reptilian markets to sell his books .

hence the reptilian and meet thing , and his exact oposite vegi foods .