sheela reveals her secrets about osho

welfarewarrior · 10-04-2007, 03:12 PM

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rossus · 11-04-2007, 11:32 PM

at least he didn't force his followers into having sex with him like Sai Baba..

After having seen two of sheela's videos, I still like Osho. It's not that I don't believe what she says about him, but the outer guru is not that important anyway.

The inner guru (or love) is 100% pure. And the job of the outer guru is to make the seeker in contact with his inner guru and I think osho was not so bad at that...

tru3 · 12-04-2007, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rossus

at least he didn't force his followers into having sex with him like Sai Baba..

After having seen two of sheela's videos, I still like Osho. It's not that I don't believe what she says about him, but the outer guru is not that important anyway.

The inner guru (or love) is 100% pure. And the job of the outer guru is to make the seeker in contact with his inner guru and I think osho was not so bad at that...

i will say this for ohso: he provides the "seeker" tools with which to explore Consciousness. some of the chakra meditations his people developed are pretty powerful in loosening stuck bits of energy.

s.s.b. simply performs parlor tricks.

rossus · 12-04-2007, 01:45 PM

http://www.otoons.com/osho/osho_wake_up.htm
in the bottom you can click on the triangle that points to the right for more pages like that of him.

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/Bhagwan_osho.htm
here is some more "bad news" about osho... there's also bad stuff written about sheela, the author of the video's the initial poster posted.

" The young Acharya Rajneesh started his life as a teacher who condemned false gurus and ended his life as one of the most deceitful gurus the world has ever known. The difficult fact to comprehend is that he was enlightened when he was an anti-guru puritan and he was still enlightened when he was the ultimate corrupt, self-indulgent guru himself. This seemingly irreconcilable contradiction is the real reason I write this essay. I love to go into uncharted territory where others fear to tread.

When you combine man's natural tendency for selfishness with an ivory tower lifestyle, you have a situation where ethical behavior can appear to be optional. Combine the unhealthy atmosphere of self-deification with a debilitating progressive illness that lowers IQ, and on top of that add drug abuse, then you have a cliff that even an enlightened man could fall from. That fall could happen only if the enlightened man makes one wrong choice, one false move, from both the heart and from the mind.

Bhagwan's wrong choice was to disregard truthfulness in favor of what he thought were useful lies. Once you make that wrong turn, away from ordinary straightforward truth, you have lost your way. No human being can disregard fact on a regular basis without finding himself in a sea of turmoil, because by discarding fact you discard the ground beneath your feet. Little lies grow into big lies and the now hidden truth becomes your enemy, not your friend and ally. "

yaku · 10-03-2009, 12:47 PM

Osho in fact,was not currupt in the later years of his life as people like chris calder postulate.He was just living out his message and philosophy of zorba the buddha,of balance of the material and the spiritual,outer and inner.That was the main thrust of Osho vision and his great gift to the world and our present era.He always wanted to show how the normal,regular man can be enlightened and live in the normal, world,without any pretensions of being a great mahatma or saint,without any antilife ideas.His vision was completly life affirmative,and he showed,by his own actions in the last years of his life,the imprint and his own philosophy perfectly,by celebrating the outer,or enjoying the world like zorba the greek,then the outer is not supressed,and meditation can flower and buddha will be born without any disrespect for the beuty of the outer world and ordinary life.His vision was not of saints living in poverty and being worshipped as great masters nor of massive poverty like there is in india,his vision was always of great outer wealth and affluence,science and technology as well as inner richness.This is the great holistic vision that Osho has givewn to the world.In fact, he was not self indulgent either,he lived a very simple life.He always ate the same food every day,sat for hours in samadhi,enjoyed his jacuzzi,gave spendid and fiery lectures and enjoyed winding people up.Love,Yaku

eternal_spirit · 10-03-2009, 01:09 PM

Oh no here we go return of the Oshobots

He was a bad man. Not enlightened at all.

vince2468motorway · 10-03-2009, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal_spirit

Oh no here we go return of the Oshobots

He was a bad man. Not enlightened at all.

The question you have to ask yourselves is "what difference to me will it make if ohso was a bad man or not"?

If this difference is ZERO, Then i would suggest putting it behind you and focusing on what really matters...

Now ask yourselves these questions..

Where should i be spiritually?

where should i be at the right time?

will i ascend?

Have i done enough good things while i was here?

and no doubt a million other questions you would like to have answered...

The answer 100% of the time resides in Knowledge,,, I would personally prefer to be seeking this knowledge instead of squabbling over the merits of another.

Not much time now,,, Stay focused...

kasalt · 10-03-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vince2468motorway

Not much time now,,, Stay focused...

Stay focused on the con-man, in other words.

I see all of these videos have been "removed by the user". I tried contacting the user in question months ago about why the videos have been removed and I never got a reply. This person has either been threatened into silence or has been bought off.

These are the types of people we are dealing with here.

yaku · 10-03-2009, 05:11 PM

From the oshobot in my buddha paradise,
I was actually banned from bob boyds `forum`for trying to join in this debate about Osho`s life with some positive and more accurate replies about the man,and his philosophy,which is obviously misunderstood by many,so was interested to pick up the debate here. Love, Yaku.
P.s.
What videos have been removed?

yaku · 10-03-2009, 05:21 PM

I know what videos I think the ones of sheela talking about her days with osho and stuff but why have they been removed?Didnt sheela previously bug Oshos room and most of the ranch and try to poison Osho`s doctor and experiment with poisons or something or experiment with thalium the same poison Osho reckoned that he was poisoned with?

11-04-2007, 11:32 PM	#2
rossus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: omega Posts: 2,097	at least he didn't force his followers into having sex with him like Sai Baba.. After having seen two of sheela's videos, I still like Osho. It's not that I don't believe what she says about him, but the outer guru is not that important anyway. The inner guru (or love) is 100% pure. And the job of the outer guru is to make the seeker in contact with his inner guru and I think osho was not so bad at that... __________________ Nisargadatta - I am that (free ebook!!) "Throw away profit and greed, and there won't be any thieves." - Laozi Last edited by rossus; 11-04-2007 at 11:36 PM.

12-04-2007, 01:45 PM	#4
rossus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: omega Posts: 2,097	http://www.otoons.com/osho/osho_wake_up.htm in the bottom you can click on the triangle that points to the right for more pages like that of him. http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/Bhagwan_osho.htm here is some more "bad news" about osho... there's also bad stuff written about sheela, the author of the video's the initial poster posted. " The young Acharya Rajneesh started his life as a teacher who condemned false gurus and ended his life as one of the most deceitful gurus the world has ever known. The difficult fact to comprehend is that he was enlightened when he was an anti-guru puritan and he was still enlightened when he was the ultimate corrupt, self-indulgent guru himself. This seemingly irreconcilable contradiction is the real reason I write this essay. I love to go into uncharted territory where others fear to tread. When you combine man's natural tendency for selfishness with an ivory tower lifestyle, you have a situation where ethical behavior can appear to be optional. Combine the unhealthy atmosphere of self-deification with a debilitating progressive illness that lowers IQ, and on top of that add drug abuse, then you have a cliff that even an enlightened man could fall from. That fall could happen only if the enlightened man makes one wrong choice, one false move, from both the heart and from the mind. Bhagwan's wrong choice was to disregard truthfulness in favor of what he thought were useful lies. Once you make that wrong turn, away from ordinary straightforward truth, you have lost your way. No human being can disregard fact on a regular basis without finding himself in a sea of turmoil, because by discarding fact you discard the ground beneath your feet. Little lies grow into big lies and the now hidden truth becomes your enemy, not your friend and ally. " __________________ Nisargadatta - I am that (free ebook!!) "Throw away profit and greed, and there won't be any thieves." - Laozi Last edited by rossus; 13-04-2007 at 11:13 AM.

10-03-2009, 12:47 PM	#5
yaku Inactive Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3	Osho in fact,was not currupt in the later years of his life as people like chris calder postulate.He was just living out his message and philosophy of zorba the buddha,of balance of the material and the spiritual,outer and inner.That was the main thrust of Osho vision and his great gift to the world and our present era.He always wanted to show how the normal,regular man can be enlightened and live in the normal, world,without any pretensions of being a great mahatma or saint,without any antilife ideas.His vision was completly life affirmative,and he showed,by his own actions in the last years of his life,the imprint and his own philosophy perfectly,by celebrating the outer,or enjoying the world like zorba the greek,then the outer is not supressed,and meditation can flower and buddha will be born without any disrespect for the beuty of the outer world and ordinary life.His vision was not of saints living in poverty and being worshipped as great masters nor of massive poverty like there is in india,his vision was always of great outer wealth and affluence,science and technology as well as inner richness.This is the great holistic vision that Osho has givewn to the world.In fact, he was not self indulgent either,he lived a very simple life.He always ate the same food every day,sat for hours in samadhi,enjoyed his jacuzzi,gave spendid and fiery lectures and enjoyed winding people up.Love,Yaku

10-03-2009, 01:09 PM	#6
eternal_spirit Inactive Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,347	Oh no here we go return of the Oshobots He was a bad man. Not enlightened at all.

10-03-2009, 05:11 PM	#9
yaku Inactive Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3	From the oshobot in my buddha paradise, I was actually banned from bob boyds `forum`for trying to join in this debate about Osho`s life with some positive and more accurate replies about the man,and his philosophy,which is obviously misunderstood by many,so was interested to pick up the debate here. Love, Yaku. P.s. What videos have been removed?

10-03-2009, 05:21 PM	#10
yaku Inactive Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3	I know what videos I think the ones of sheela talking about her days with osho and stuff but why have they been removed?Didnt sheela previously bug Oshos room and most of the ranch and try to poison Osho`s doctor and experiment with poisons or something or experiment with thalium the same poison Osho reckoned that he was poisoned with?