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Old 02-09-2013, 01:48 PM   #1
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Are Hardcore Skeptics and Debunkers Actually Brain Deficient? Their Own Beloved 'Hard Science' Might Well Suggest Many Are.



We have all encountered them. The men and women of 'reason'. The self-appointed guardians and vanguards of materialist dogma along with their absolute faith and belief in official government and corporate press releases. The debunker, the hardcore skeptic—how they love to compulsively ridicule and mock all they deem 'pseudoscience' and 'conspiracy theory'—while also declaring anyone who thinks outside the box or questions the prevailing orthodoxy, a "moron" and a "tard". Matters not how solid the evidence you present them with is, nor how flimsy their own state-sanctioned 'hard science' which they smugly offer up as their rebuttal; they are driven by a messianic compulsion to root out unscientific 'idiots' with all the zeal and fanaticism similar to that of a Dominican or Jesuit charging through southern France in the twelfth century seeking out 'heretics' for the burning. Irony does not even come into their myopic worldview—unless of course a government, corporate or university press office states this. Then it becomes an undisputed fact. Thanks to the likes of Richard Dawkins and Christoper Hitchens, these Internet-bound warriors of rationality see 'Creationists' and 'hidden Christians' around every corner and seek to root them out and expose them as part and parcel of their own peculiar secular witch hunt mentality.

The reality is that apart from their own kind—other self-proclaimed non-'idiots'—most people find such arrogant and obnoxious debunkers and hardcore skeptics to be strangely angry and boorish, and often confrontational to the point of hysterical. So many of them seem to lack basic social and behavioural skills when 'debating' with their 'kook' of choice. Their absolutism can be staggering at times. Yet, despite all this, they have somehow come to consider themselves 'cool' and even 'sexy' within the last decade. This is simply a lack of critical thinking on their behalf; a distorted worldview where only they are right and everyone else is an idiot.

However, when you strip down their whole mandate into its constituent parts, one soon finds that most of these 'scientifically' minded crusaders have no actual accredited scientific background, and the entire thrust of their endeavours remains nothing less than unconditional servitude and unquestioned devotion to authority figures and the status quo. They seek entrenched orthodoxy, not exploration and wonder. They see an open-minded individual as being akin to a brain being infected with a disease, or the mark of a witch. They act as if Creationists are a real danger to human survival, as if the US Bible Belt has extended beyond its absurd boundaries. Creationists are about as much danger to the advances made by scientists in the last two hundred years as Graneda was to Ronald Reagan back in the early 1980s.

It is only fair to point out that there are also healthy skeptics who genuinely do look at anomalies and unexplained phenomena within the natural and unseen cosmos with a cautious eye. They will at least indulge a novel or radical opinion and look at the evidence before taking a stance—often it is an arbitrary position—based on using the Scientific Method coupled with Carl Sagan's "extraordinary evidence". They are generally polite and only moderately condescending at worst.

The debunker and the hardcore skeptics, on the other hand, will even attack these open-minded Materialists, similar to how a flying saucer cult will have very public witch hunts of so-so members who have not shown their unconditional devotion to the messages sent from the 'space brothers'. The irony is that many of the open-minded skeptics that they attack often have a scientific or engineering background, and these folks are being attacked by debunkers whose sum total of their own quest for reason and logic rarely extends beyond procuring a 'Mythbusters' DVD box set or having a poster of Richard Dawkins on their wall. Any Reductionist fence-sitters will be treated with ridicule and contempt—even fascistic vitriol and vicious insults.



There is simply no grey areas within the concrete consciousness of the debunker or the hardcore skeptic; instead, only a kind of scientific idealism—and idealism, both secular or otherwise, is really just a nice way of saying 'fascism'.

So what gives? How come they behave the way they do? A complete lack of social intelligence? An inability to debate, share interesting banter and listen to what another person is saying which might be at odds with their own beliefs? Surprisingly, their own beloved science might well provide the answer to these questions. It may well be an over-stimulation of the left hemisphere of their brains leading to a kind of self-induced schizophrenia whereby the right hemisphere of their brain has been switched off. Hence, why they place no value on other forms of non-lateral intelligence: noetic wisdom and intuition.......http://thomassheridanarts.com/articl...?article_id=82
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:55 PM   #2
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My Mother was one of these - till that was her and my Dad, while driving to my house one Christmas eve, almost bumped into a UFO

She was albeit a shaking, drooling mess

And yes, from my experience, people who are obsessive about debunking do have issues going on - they also are terrified of the thought of ghosts/spirits/aliens - but very few will admit it.

One sceptic I knew admitted to me that the reason they refuse to accept that there is life after death, and spirits etc, is because they have been let's just say "mean & dishonest" throughout their life, so was terrified of the thought that they may have to face people one day

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I wonder what is mentally wrong with people who post photo shopped pictures on the internet as proof of aliens on Earth.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=171

There's probably a simpler explanation: Liars!
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:36 PM   #6
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I wonder what is mentally wrong with people who post photo shopped pictures on the internet as proof of aliens on Earth.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=171

There's probably a simpler explanation: Liars!
Ok so i made a mistake, i was wrong, give me a break, i have an open mind. I can be conned like the next man.

The thing about closed minded debunkers is that one human error will disprove a whole theory and body of evidence for them.

They just love to be right.

And if they cannot disprove something the op for instance, they resort to ad hominem attacks.


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Old 02-09-2013, 03:13 PM   #7
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Ok so i made a mistake, i was wrong, give me a break, i have an open mind.

Don't try to dress up peddling lies and disinformation as having an 'open mind'.

The only rebuttal you can give once your posts are debunked is a round of semantic games.

Now I wonder why you persist with this nonsense time and time again.... I would say you have an agenda.

Someone with an agenda does not change their tune even when prevented with incontrovertible proof showing they're wrong. They just keep following their agenda.

I think it's time you showed some honesty.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:38 PM   #9
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lol, intuition will prove again to be the best survival stategy in the comming days. The one person that I met with the highest vibration I have ever experienced could heal a whole room of people without even intending to do so. She simply praised The Lord all the time. I thought I was pretty high in vibration, but people like me were once on the fence and in a lower version of Earth -- most people are still stuck and didnt make it out. One word of advice she gave me was "always be joyful in the Lord". or "Stay Happy Always". So, thank you for that picture
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Ok so i made a mistake, i was wrong, give me a break, i have an open mind. I can be conned like the next man.

The thing about closed minded debunkers is that one human error will disprove a whole theory and body of evidence for them.

They just love to be right.

And if they cannot disprove something the op for instance, they resort to ad hominem attacks.


It happened to me. As soon as I posted my first comment the other night there was someone waiting there to shit all over me. You can barely say hello here now without getting into a debate.
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The problem is people ego's, whether they're a truther or debunker everyone insists they are right and the truth very rarely comes in to it.
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I wonder what is mentally wrong with people who post photo shopped pictures on the internet as proof of aliens on Earth.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=171

There's probably a simpler explanation: Liars!
Not nice to assume someones got a mental illness or that their a liar because they've posted up something that they've themselves have been conned by.

All it says about them is they're a decent trusting being.

Bit harsh if you ask me
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Are Hardcore Skeptics and Debunkers Actually Brain Deficient? Their Own Beloved 'Hard Science' Might Well Suggest Many Are.



We have all encountered them. The men and women of 'reason'. The self-appointed guardians and vanguards of materialist dogma along with their absolute faith and belief in official government and corporate press releases. The debunker, the hardcore skeptic—how they love to compulsively ridicule and mock all they deem 'pseudoscience' and 'conspiracy theory'—while also declaring anyone who thinks outside the box or questions the prevailing orthodoxy, a "moron" and a "tard". Matters not how solid the evidence you present them with is, nor how flimsy their own state-sanctioned 'hard science' which they smugly offer up as their rebuttal; they are driven by a messianic compulsion to root out unscientific 'idiots' with all the zeal and fanaticism similar to that of a Dominican or Jesuit charging through southern France in the twelfth century seeking out 'heretics' for the burning. Irony does not even come into their myopic worldview—unless of course a government, corporate or university press office states this. Then it becomes an undisputed fact. Thanks to the likes of Richard Dawkins and Christoper Hitchens, these Internet-bound warriors of rationality see 'Creationists' and 'hidden Christians' around every corner and seek to root them out and expose them as part and parcel of their own peculiar secular witch hunt mentality.

The reality is that apart from their own kind—other self-proclaimed non-'idiots'—most people find such arrogant and obnoxious debunkers and hardcore skeptics to be strangely angry and boorish, and often confrontational to the point of hysterical. So many of them seem to lack basic social and behavioural skills when 'debating' with their 'kook' of choice. Their absolutism can be staggering at times. Yet, despite all this, they have somehow come to consider themselves 'cool' and even 'sexy' within the last decade. This is simply a lack of critical thinking on their behalf; a distorted worldview where only they are right and everyone else is an idiot.

However, when you strip down their whole mandate into its constituent parts, one soon finds that most of these 'scientifically' minded crusaders have no actual accredited scientific background, and the entire thrust of their endeavours remains nothing less than unconditional servitude and unquestioned devotion to authority figures and the status quo. They seek entrenched orthodoxy, not exploration and wonder. They see an open-minded individual as being akin to a brain being infected with a disease, or the mark of a witch. They act as if Creationists are a real danger to human survival, as if the US Bible Belt has extended beyond its absurd boundaries. Creationists are about as much danger to the advances made by scientists in the last two hundred years as Graneda was to Ronald Reagan back in the early 1980s.

It is only fair to point out that there are also healthy skeptics who genuinely do look at anomalies and unexplained phenomena within the natural and unseen cosmos with a cautious eye. They will at least indulge a novel or radical opinion and look at the evidence before taking a stance—often it is an arbitrary position—based on using the Scientific Method coupled with Carl Sagan's "extraordinary evidence". They are generally polite and only moderately condescending at worst.

The debunker and the hardcore skeptics, on the other hand, will even attack these open-minded Materialists, similar to how a flying saucer cult will have very public witch hunts of so-so members who have not shown their unconditional devotion to the messages sent from the 'space brothers'. The irony is that many of the open-minded skeptics that they attack often have a scientific or engineering background, and these folks are being attacked by debunkers whose sum total of their own quest for reason and logic rarely extends beyond procuring a 'Mythbusters' DVD box set or having a poster of Richard Dawkins on their wall. Any Reductionist fence-sitters will be treated with ridicule and contempt—even fascistic vitriol and vicious insults.



There is simply no grey areas within the concrete consciousness of the debunker or the hardcore skeptic; instead, only a kind of scientific idealism—and idealism, both secular or otherwise, is really just a nice way of saying 'fascism'.

So what gives? How come they behave the way they do? A complete lack of social intelligence? An inability to debate, share interesting banter and listen to what another person is saying which might be at odds with their own beliefs? Surprisingly, their own beloved science might well provide the answer to these questions. It may well be an over-stimulation of the left hemisphere of their brains leading to a kind of self-induced schizophrenia whereby the right hemisphere of their brain has been switched off. Hence, why they place no value on other forms of non-lateral intelligence: noetic wisdom and intuition.......http://thomassheridanarts.com/articl...?article_id=82
Thanks for this, and for the link.
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Thanks for this, and for the link.
Your welcome, it looks like the debunkers do not like this and and doing their best to hijack it. With no logic or scientific evidence.
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Moderator note.

Please stick to the topic, there's no need to bicker and bring up irrelevant themes, i have deleted a few posts.

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It happened to me. As soon as I posted my first comment the other night there was someone waiting there to shit all over me. You can barely say hello here now without getting into a debate.
There are many debunkers on this forum, they are here just to argue it seems. They seem to be angry, aggressive and ad hominem.

As the evidence of the op shows they are disconnected from the right side of their brain and so are not firing on all cylinders.

I posted on another thread as ep mentions and provided a link, as i always do. Then another similar picture was posted with no link claiming to be the original. Who is to say which one was photoshop, the one with or without a source.

If mine was the fake why was there no link or source or evidence concerning the original.

I find these tactics are not unusual for the debunkers on this forum.

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The reality is that apart from their own kind—other self-proclaimed non-'idiots'—most people find such arrogant and obnoxious debunkers and hardcore skeptics to be strangely angry and boorish, and often confrontational to the point of hysterical. So many of them seem to lack basic social and behavioural skills when 'debating' with their 'kook' of choice. Their absolutism can be staggering at times. Yet, despite all this, they have somehow come to consider themselves 'cool' and even 'sexy' within the last decade. This is simply a lack of critical thinking on their behalf; a distorted worldview where only they are right and everyone else is an idiot.
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I challenge the debunkers on this forum to debunk the op and prove to us that you are not right brain deficient.
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The problem is people ego's, whether they're a truther or debunker everyone insists they are right and the truth very rarely comes in to it.
A truther can be a debunker and vice versa they are only titles they mean little .

Honesty based on hard facts wins the day everytime strawmen know this so do trolls and baiters in fact they rely on it .
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A truther can be a debunker and vice versa they are only titles they mean little .

Honesty based on hard facts wins the day everytime strawmen know this so do trolls and baiters in fact they rely on it .
There are as many versions of the truth as there are people.

Debunkers insist on being right its a psychological ego problem.

To admit to being wrong and make mistakes is human and honest.
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