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Old 10-12-2012, 06:24 PM   #1
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Default 96 degrees in freemasonry(input from Masons please

has anyone ever heard of this

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One might ask WELL WHERE IN THE HELL DID THEY HAVE A 96 DEGREE RITE?!!?

Well it just so happens that in the "east" they are not plagued by many of the Politcal and Racial issues that has polorized freemasonry in the "west" ...

In Egypt ....the French "Negre" brothers along with Alexander Dumas founded the Rites of Memphis and united it with another egyptian based rite known as the Rites of Misriam......they later morphed into a masonic/rosicrucian rite known as the
ASIATIC BRETHREN aka BROTHERHOOD OF LIGHT
The black american novelist known as DR. PASCHAL BEVERLY RANDOLPH was said to be one of it's founders...


the same PB Randolph known as the "FATHER OF ETHER"
instead of the standard 32 degrees along with the honorary 33rd degree..the 96 degree represented a crossection of philosophical, spiritual and scholarly rituals which were deemed much too "contreversial" for the western masonic canidate.


The ARK OF MARINER degree is an example of that..the Moors were masters of ship building and navigation...this was the "traveling" alluded to in the memory work of the blue lodge BEFORE the revision into the "H.I.R.A.M" story concocted by the "bible thumping christians of freemasonry' trying to avoid a "witch hunt" led by the Church during the 18th and 19th centuries.

Old masonic historians point to the fact that NOAH was the main character prior to HIRAM inclusion.
and the ARK pointed to the "womb" or darkness from which light (creation, manifistation) in the dual form (two of each character) would represent....HUMANITY being FORMED out of a DIVINE SOURCE.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:33 AM   #2
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The Rite of Memphis is not recognized by traditional Freemasonry and is completely irregular. The Rite of Memphis, as well as the Egyptian Rite of Mitzraim, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rite_of_Memphis-Misraim were difficult because they contained so many degrees it was impossible to organize them into a coherent system. The Grand College of Rites of the USA allows members the opportunity to study the degrees without the formality (and inconvenience) of having to work them. The Rite of Memphis-Misraim is a Freemasonic rite which was formed by the merging of the two rites of Memphis and Misra´m under the influence of General Garibaldi in 1881. This order originated in 1881 by combining two 'Egyptian' Rites, those of Mepmphis and of Misraim. Giuseppi Garibaldi became the first Grandmaster of this united rite. Before that he was already the Grand Master of the Italian order of Freemasons. The origins of the Misraim-rite were in the late 1700s, the Memphis rite was founded in 1815 by Freemasons who had joined the Napoleontic battle campaigns in Egypt and learned there of ancient Egyptian initiation rites. Nowadays this rite has a couple of thousand members, mostly in Europe. There are lodges in France, Belgium (140 members), Switzerland, United Kingdom, Italy, Canada, United States, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Haiti, Australia and several African countries, including Madagascar. The order has 99 degrees and is therefore the largest masonic order in number of degrees. Not all degrees are worked. National Sovereign Sanctuary Ancient and Primitive Rite of Memphis-Misra´m for the United States and Jurisdictions. http://www.memphis-misraim.us/
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:53 PM   #3
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could you expound on the difference between the blue lodge & the red lodge
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:03 AM   #4
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The sign of Cancer in the Freemason Royal Arch Keystone (♋) is the fourth astrological sign in the Zodiac, which spans the Zodiac between the 90th and 119th degree of celestial longitude...



Why do you think 1 in 3 get cancer...because the enviroment is polluted to hell...with vehicle exhaust poison,have you seen the state of the traffic on the roads and Aeroplanes in the sky,not to mention radioactive waste being pumped into the ocean etc ,Tip of the Toxic iceberg...It is estimated that about 10% of the genes encoded by the X chromosome are associated with a family of "CT" genes, so named because they encode for markers found in both tumor cells (in Cancer patients) as well as in the human testis (in healthy patients)....Triple X results during division of a parent's reproductive cells and occurs about once in every 1,000 female births. Unlike most other chromosomal conditions (such as Down syndrome)...


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Old 12-12-2012, 05:03 AM   #5
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could you expound on the difference between the blue lodge & the red lodge
Keeping it simple the Blue Lodge is properly called the Craft and consists of the first 3 degrees of Freemasonry, Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft and Master Mason. The red lodge is a name sometimes used for a Royal Arch Chapter which a Master Mason may join if he wants to.
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Old 20-12-2012, 06:34 PM   #6
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so let me ask you this: is the mason belief & practices thread on point?
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Old 21-12-2012, 03:50 AM   #7
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so let me ask you this: is the mason belief & practices thread on point?
Please explain exactly what you mean by that.
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Old 21-12-2012, 10:11 AM   #8
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Alexander Bumas did not found the Rites of Memphis and Misraim but they are real and do operate in some countries. They also variously operate separately and combined.

However, they are generally shunned and not recognised by mainstream Freemasonry, that is the one everyone here thinks of when they talk about Freemasons. The worldwide membership of M&M is only a few hundred people.

Unfortunately there are also some "Internet" versions of the Rite which are even more spurious than what they are trying to copy.
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Old 25-12-2012, 04:12 PM   #9
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A 90th degree Mason -
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Old 26-12-2012, 09:27 PM   #10
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The Rite of Memphis is not recognized by traditional Freemasonry and is completely irregular. The Rite of Memphis, as well as the Egyptian Rite of Mitzraim, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rite_of_Memphis-Misraim were difficult because they contained so many degrees it was impossible to organize them into a coherent system.
I find your choice of words curious, to say the least, as if we're talking about something concrete and tangible. What do you mean by irregular? By stating something is irregular, by definition, there has to be a alternative that is regular, right?

What is a degree and why "organize them into a coherent system?"
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Old 27-12-2012, 03:49 PM   #11
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I find your choice of words curious, to say the least, as if we're talking about something concrete and tangible. What do you mean by irregular? By stating something is irregular, by definition, there has to be a alternative that is regular, right?

What is a degree and why "organize them into a coherent system?"
Regular freemasonry is the organisations that are approved of by UGLE, and that is considered to be of equal standing. Irregular is every lodge not approved of. There are vast numbers of "freemasonic" lodges, but they don't all recognise each other. The grand orient of France is an example of a lodge considered irregular by UGLE, whilst my lodge of Swedish Rite is approved by UGLE and therefor classed as regular.
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Old 27-12-2012, 07:56 PM   #12
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What is a degree and why "organize them into a coherent system?"
The structure of Freemasonry can often appear confusing to the non-mason. - http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/masonic_degrees.html
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Old 27-12-2012, 08:41 PM   #13
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Here is a link to the appendant orders as they are organised under UGLE in the UK.


http://merseylodge5434.org/info/wp-c...ys-English.pdf


With thanks to Mike Martin who posted it on another forum.
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Nice to see there is some sense being kept here. I hope when people free themselves from the prison of conspiracy, that they will appreciate that "secret societies" have kept this information channel open, and in fact are a major reason why we are actually here discussing the possiblities of life in general.

It always cracks me up that the vast majority of 'christian/catholic' masonic conspiraicies regarding the masons is a hoax enacted by Leo Taxil in the 1800's. And the fact that the first person to show a thread throughout all modern religion (i.e. the ancient Sun reigion) was in-fact found in the book, "The Symbolism of Freemasonry", by Albert G. Mackey (also written in the 1800's) who was a very prominent freemason is his day.. And someone we ought to be fucking thankful for in retrospect.

Otherwise this forum wouldn't be here.

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so if a degrees exist such as the 90th degree what would it consist of as far as belief and wouldnt it be consider a honorary degree?
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It always cracks me up that the vast majority of 'christian/catholic' masonic conspiraicies regarding the masons is a hoax enacted by Leo Taxil in the 1800's. And the fact that the first person to show a thread throughout all modern religion (i.e. the ancient Sun reigion) was in-fact found in the book, "The Symbolism of Freemasonry", by Albert G. Mackey (also written in the 1800's) who was a very prominent freemason is his day.. And someone we ought to be fucking thankful for in retrospect.

Otherwise this forum wouldn't be here.
Why would this forum not be here,or is that forums /internet/freedom in General etc etc.





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What do Blue Lodge, lower degree Masons know about anything?
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The structure of Freemasonry can often appear confusing to the non-mason. - http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/masonic_degrees.html
I get frustrated when people site official sources as an answer to my question. Would you trust the government for an accurate account of the Benghazi attack?

Furthermore, it's beating around the bush when you know the answer I want. What is a "Grand Pontiff?" Why is a "Prince of Mercy" higher on the totem pole at 26 rather than 19. Aside from progression through the rite, what do these degrees or names signify? Other than a higher number degree, what does a "Grand Pontiff" have that a "Prince of Mercy" does not?

It seems to me that part of it is just a shrine to the ego. Enter an ornate building, put on some fancy garments, and assume a really pompous title as a claim to your supposed understanding of secret, esoteric mysteries.
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What do Blue Lodge, lower degree Masons know about anything?
Depends on how much they research and study.

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I get frustrated when people site official sources as an answer to my question. Would you trust the government for an accurate account of the Benghazi attack?
Apples and oranges.

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Why is a "Prince of Mercy" higher on the totem pole at 26 rather than 19.
You realize that the lowest spot on a totem pole is a place of honor right?

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Aside from progression through the rite, what do these degrees or names signify? Other than a higher number degree, what does a "Grand Pontiff" have that a "Prince of Mercy" does not?
The names usually make sense when you go through the ceremony.
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