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Old 26-03-2008, 08:52 PM   #21
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Indeed I have enjoyed many of Anne Rices vampire chronicles. She has also written about witches, and they got into the vampire chronicles as well.

The only two movies I know of that are based on her books is Queen of the Damned and Interview with a Vampire. Both great movies, but Interview with a Vampire seems to have less rough edges than the second one. Better actors, better director... still Queen of the Damned is also a good movie, but for those reasons I havent watched it more than 10 times like Interview with a Vampire
I always thought she had insider knowledge when she wrote the books or that it was parlty channeled awre or not .The mayfiar witches again a good series of novles she wrote the mummy a far more realistic muumy story and i wouldnt be suprised if thats what inspireed the recent mummy series with brenadan fraser .As for the chronicles i stopped reading around tales of the body thief maybe read vampire armand .Interestingly River Pheonix was filming the interviewer part of daniel fo rthe movie when he died in johhny depps viper rooms club ,and Aaliyah died not long after filming the queen of the damned just before her appearance in the matrix movie again another thread in the making .
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...art/still.html

Check out these paintings by famous assisted suicide doctor
Jack Kevorkian:

We see here Kevorkian's interpretation of the Fleur de Lis:

Very Still Life

note white flower on blue aura, evocative of



Also his painting 'War'

Kevorkian's depiction of artificially engineered wars
(masonic 'knights' pulling the strings?):




Here we have Kevorkian's painting entitled 'Brotherhood'
(doubtless another masonic reference) depicting all
races united in a hidden, demonic 'brotherhood'

(interesting in light of the fact that the traditional neck tie dates back to and is derived from the masonic cable-tow noose ceremony,see:
The Meaning of the Necktie
http://www.absalom.com/mormon/contri...e/necktie.html )

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This defies belief. A CBS television series about vampires faces cancellation.


Fans of CBS' "Moonlight" are so passionate about the vampire drama that they're willing to sacrifice their own blood to keep the series on the air.

Teaming with the Red Cross and online protest rally point YouChoose.net, "Moonlight" viewers are organizing a nationwide blood drive to garner network support for a second season. They claim that more than 3,000 fans have pledged to donate a pint.

"Moonlight" star Alex O'Loughlin has been so moved by fans' efforts that sources close to the series said he is becoming a spokesman for the Red Cross. The spokesmanship position will be announced this week.

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I always thought she had insider knowledge when she wrote the books or that it was parlty channeled awre or not .The mayfiar witches again a good series of novles she wrote the mummy a far more realistic muumy story and i wouldnt be suprised if thats what inspireed the recent mummy series with brenadan fraser .As for the chronicles i stopped reading around tales of the body thief maybe read vampire armand .Interestingly River Pheonix was filming the interviewer part of daniel fo rthe movie when he died in johhny depps viper rooms club ,and Aaliyah died not long after filming the queen of the damned just before her appearance in the matrix movie again another thread in the making .
Seen the movie, the Skeleton Key? Anne Rice wrote it, and from what I have found out, she might be possessed by a being. If I am not mistaken she had faith in this being as a source of inspiriation for her books. The being might have moved on though.

After her husband died, I think she had a young boy with blond hair visiting her. I dont know what their relationship was, but I think she had he husband possess him, or the being that possessed her husband.

I also believe she has much of her knowledge about witchcraft first hand, from using it herself. She probably even has a coven. The last I read about her, she has written books about Jesus Christ.

As for real vampires, it seems psychic vampires are not that rare. They feast on energy instead of blood though. I have seen a documentary about an ex-illuminati who said he lived as a vampire for a few years, living only on the blood of willing girls who worshipped him. His story was incredible, and hard to believe. I am sorry to say I dont have the video anymore, but would be nice if I could find it.

Seems more real stories have surfaced, or at least stories of people who claim to have been vampires.
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I have seen a documentary about an ex-illuminati who said he lived as a vampire for a few years, living only on the blood of willing girls who worshipped him. His story was incredible, and hard to believe. I am sorry to say I dont have the video anymore, but would be nice if I could find it.
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His name is Bill Schnoebelen:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...03660947890622

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Tobias Schneebaum
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/25/ob...chneebaum.html
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Michael Reiner

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L.I. teacher in kid-porn bust . 'Fetish for slavery, cannibalism'

Thursday, September 28th 2006, 12:00 AM

A TEACHER AT a Long Island school for the gifted who was busted on kiddie porn charges told authorities he has "a fetish for young boys, slavery and cannibalism." "I like kids. They're fun," Michael Reiner, 46, told Canadian border agents, according to a complaint unsealed yesterday. "I say I'm going to eat them, but I'm only joking. The kids always laugh." But authorities don't think there's anything funny about the child pornography allegedly found on Reiner's home computer or the 1,000 images of scantily clad young boys on his laptop. Then there's his Web site, which invites boys to join his "slave" camp and asks how they feel "about the prospect of being eaten," authorities said. The Web site contains a disclaimer that it's fictional, and Reiner said he doesn't practice cannibalism. Reiner, a teacher for 18 years at the private Long Island School for the Gifted in Huntington Station, came to the attention of investigators last month when Canadian officers at the border in Ontario examined his laptop and discovered the photos of boys. He also showed the officers his Web site, which Reiner explained "was intended to be accessed by people who shared his interest in young boys, slavery and cannibalism," according to the complaint unsealed yesterday in Central Islip Federal Court. Reiner was allowed to enter Canada and return to the U.S. because the laptop photos were not illegal, but he was questioned by U.S. Homeland Security Department agents on his way back in. Reiner consented to a search of his East Meadow home, where agents seized dozens of sexually explicit photos and video clips of children, authorities said. Reiner was ordered held without bail by Magistrate Kathleen Tomlinson. The School for the Gifted enrolls nearly 300 children in grades kindergarten through 9. School lawyer Linda Caputo-Friedman said Reiner had been fired. [email protected]

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I was about to say that wasnt the one, but I looked at the vid, and it seems to be him, with a beard The vid I saw was a few years old. At least from the 90'ies. When I first heard about the ex-vampire stuff, then I thought it was a different person with a similar story, but seems it is the same person.

Thanks for the link
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I was about to say that wasnt the one, but I looked at the vid, and it seems to be him, with a beard The vid I saw was a few years old. At least from the 90'ies. When I first heard about the ex-vampire stuff, then I thought it was a different person with a similar story, but seems it is the same person.

Thanks for the link
the older video is on Google Video too. I've seen it. He gives a speech while standing. It is actually better than this line I've posted.
Go to Google Video and type in Schnoebelen, you should find it.
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check out this interview of a real vampire:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...arch&plindex=9

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I find it peculiar, having blood type O+, the universal donor type, when I first gave blood, the follow up phone calls were so relentless trying to get me to continue to donate regularly, that they actually pissed me off.
I ended up getting a tatoo and told them so and the phone calls stopped completely.
weird eh?
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I find it peculiar, having blood type O+, the universal donor type, when I first gave blood, the follow up phone calls were so relentless trying to get me to continue to donate regularly, that they actually pissed me off.
I ended up getting a tatoo and told them so and the phone calls stopped completely.
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You had a tattoo in order to stop unwanted phone calls?! Lateral thinking, I like it! I might get one done to keep my boss off my back. He seems to want blood too!
What has hunkahunka's post about a disgusting kiddy fiddler got to do with the topic we're in, namely Illuminati / Secret Societies?
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Isnt there an artificial kind of blood that can be used for blood transfusions? It should be like a saltwater mix or something, but cant be used in large quantities, probably because it becomes like the blood in the rest of the body over a few runs through the veins.

I know a few people who have believed themselves to be vampires, or maybe they just were. I am still curious about wether they actually extended their lifespan expectancy. That it was I felt, but it seems to me that becomming such a being destroys most people. Look at the wannabee gothic vampires, which is mostly young people who believe in enjoying life, and pain. Sometimes it goes so far they dont even care about others. But getting the body used to live on the blood or life energy of other living beings, its brings both moral and karma out of balance. The concience of such a being is in danger of becomming depressed, maybe enough to leave this world when they find a way to do so. I am not sure that the few I have met are real vampires, but I am quite certain that they are able to get their mortality back. Being able to live a normal life again. But I would have to find those I know of again and ask them questions I dont really dare ask.

One person who seemed immortal showed me a past long ago, but problem is, can I believe it to be true? So many of my memories already makes it hard to live a normal life, so I dont like getting to know too much at once. As some on this forum says people like me have magical views of the world, that they cant believe because they dont feel their life as magical, or the world around them. But knowing about it and believing it just isnt the same, so I am some times researching it, but mostly to be prepared for the next revelations I might get the next time I dare approach others and share psychic experiences. But then it could also be the reason why I have had these experiences. It could all just be imagination, but what is imagination if our life is a dream?

Thanks for sharing the vids, I will have a look at them again.
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You had a tattoo in order to stop unwanted phone calls?! Lateral thinking, I like it! I might get one done to keep my boss off my back. He seems to want blood too!
What has hunkahunka's post about a disgusting kiddy fiddler got to do with the topic we're in, namely Illuminati / Secret Societies?
According to some Illuminati researchers, then raping children is believed to be the key to eternal life. I dont remember the name of the guy who claimed it to be so. It was someone rich who said it as if he did it himself. Maybe it was the OTO guy?

Drinking the blood of others is only one kind of vampirism. The other is said to be the more common kind among the illuminati, if Icke and some other researchers are correct.
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I think the last clause of the above quote is pivotal. Everyone on here is absolutely adamant about the blood drinking, child abusing antics of a group whose very existence isn't even proven. Then rather like Ian Hislop's use of the term "allegedly" to fling unsubstantiated shit at people, forumites add the phrase "..if Icke and some other researchers are correct..." as some sort of vindication for making these claims.
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Isnt there an artificial kind of blood that can be used for blood transfusions? It should be like a saltwater mix or something, but cant be used in large quantities, probably because it becomes like the blood in the rest of the body over a few runs through the veins.
Sadly not. If there were, why would we need blood donors? I've seen every method available used to save life in the event of what medics call a "fluid challenge". Saline or Hartmans solutions can increase blood volume to help perfuse vital organs but ultimately only the biological attributes of REAL blood can save life. Saline, Hartmans and Haemocell as well as Glucose or any other fluid cannot carry oxygen.
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I think the last clause of the above quote is pivotal. Everyone on here is absolutely adamant about the blood drinking, child abusing antics of a group whose very existence isn't even proven. Then rather like Ian Hislop's use of the term "allegedly" to fling unsubstantiated shit at people, forumites add the phrase "..if Icke and some other researchers are correct..." as some sort of vindication for making these claims.
Problem is why would evidence of it be allowed to exist, if what is said is true? If it ever became public, how long would it take to remove?

I believe the definition Icke gives of the Illuminati is not that they necessarily are a "group", but rather a kind of people, of whom most of them do not know they are working together. What we do know is that there certainly is alot of child abuse rings, and some people take it upon themselves to get proof of what these people are doing.

If you really want real proof, you would have to go look for it yourself, but most people here want it served on a plate. There have been good evidence on this forum now and then, but mostly just bits here and there. Many like Icke, try to sum it up, to gather the information and publish it.

So you would prefer they didnt? Do you believe Icke and others who research this doesnt believe it themselves, and only try to make money while making people believe fearytales?

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Sadly not. If there were, why would we need blood donors? I've seen every method available used to save life in the event of what medics call a "fluid challenge". Saline or Hartmans solutions can increase blood volume to help perfuse vital organs but ultimately only the biological attributes of REAL blood can save life. Saline, Hartmans and Haemocell as well as Glucose or any other fluid cannot carry oxygen.
Those might be what I have heard about then, something that couldnt replace blood, but could help people suffering from blood loss while they didnt have the blood type they needed available.

I do find it surprising that we cant make artificial blood though. It seems with the technology we have today, it ought to be possible to make a machine that produces more of some persons blood, after adding blood to it. Since it isnt something that stands around at every hospital, I guess it either takes too much energy, or blood is still a mystery. Like most of life is to science.
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I do find it surprising that we cant make artificial blood though. It seems with the technology we have today, it ought to be possible to make a machine that produces more of some persons blood, after adding blood to it. Since it isnt something that stands around at every hospital, I guess it either takes too much energy, or blood is still a mystery. Like most of life is to science.
This is a perfect example of what keeps me coming back to this Forum. This one topic has sent me off twice in search of information about things that I didn't know about.

I am now aware of the history of Gilles de Rais although I don't believe all the extra stuff and now I know a little about blood substitutes:
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This is a perfect example of what keeps me coming back to this Forum. This one topic has sent me off twice in search of information about things that I didn't know about.

I am now aware of the history of Gilles de Rais although I don't believe all the extra stuff and now I know a little about blood substitutes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_substitutes

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That is what I have been thinking ever since I joined So much nice information pass through this forum. I try to remember all the good links, but there are just too many. I ought to categorise the threads I am subscribed to, but never get around to doing it.

I am not good at bringing factual knowledge though, since I really dont like quoting and searching for something to prove everything I am saying. It probably annoys alot of people, but more often than not people actually find the links for me if I cant find them myself

Thanks for the link, it explains very well what I was sure a paramedic told me about once. It doesnt replace blood but substitutes it when in dire need. Seems like using an empty battery + a charged battery to make a device run without having two charged batteries.
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Problem is why would evidence of it be allowed to exist, if what is said is true? If it ever became public, how long would it take to remove?
So the lack of evidence in proving Icke's theories is a mere technicality and yet the same lack of evidence is more than enough to completely condemn a section of society. Ok. As long as you're still being objective!!!!
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If you really want real proof, you would have to go look for it yourself, but most people here want it served on a plate. There have been good evidence on this forum now and then, but mostly just bits here and there. Many like Icke, try to sum it up, to gather the information and publish it.

So you would prefer they didnt? Do you believe Icke and others who research this doesnt believe it themselves, and only try to make money while making people believe fearytales?
I don't mind what people write as long as it doesn't implicate or cast moral doubt on innocent people. There are just as many masonic writers doing the same as that of Icke et al. The problem kblood is that people only read one side and not the other. All I ask is some compassion and objectivity rather than having articles about paedophilia linked in the same threads about Freemasons without any tangible link. How is that EVER fair? It's persecution Kblood. Bullying. Throwing shit from behind the safety of the masses. Bullying isn't just playground antics over dinner money Kblood. It is any form of unsubstantiated attack on the innocent for pleasure. Tell me Kblood, what have I or my wife and children ever done to you other than raise funds for the sick and pay my way in society? Yet because I'm a Freemason you don't think twice that my good name should be associated with that of Satanists, Child Abusers and Megalomaniacs across the world. Have you got the courage Kblood to turn to your peers and ask them to either prove their claims or shut the fuck up? I doubt you have and that's ok. But please don't join their witch hunt.
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Thanks for the link, it explains very well what I was sure a paramedic told me about once. It doesnt replace blood but substitutes it when in dire need. Seems like using an empty battery + a charged battery to make a device run without having two charged batteries.
The substances paramedics use are just bolus increasers. Like adding water to your Gin. On a major fluid challenge they only buy time until either the fluid challenge is resolved, they get real blood or the patient dies. But the original topic was based on people who drink blood specifically. I don't think they'd settle for saline which is a shame because I'd love to shove a few pints of salt water down them!

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You certainly seem to feel like getting attacked alot on this forum danielson23uk. What did this thread have to do with freemasonry in the first place?

I am not sure why you are on such a defensive stance, but I was only on about what I have heard about vampirism. Is the Red Cross a masonic organisation? I dont know. I didnt claim them to be connected to real life vampires, although I guess all bloodbanks are likely to have vampires buying from them if they really live of blood.

I am trying to research freemasons as well, and I am suspicous about them, but I dont hate freemasons or think them or you child molestors. I take all freemasons on this forum as individuals with individual oppinions and beliefs, although they might share religion or club.

Just relax, we are not all that anti mason, although I admit I have implied that masonry might be corrupt. I havent seen enough for me not to consider it true. All organisations of any kind always have some corruption in it, and when it comes to masonry, it seems likely that the corruption is at the top like it happens to be in most systems of power. At the top it is the most tempting and easiest to keep secret.

I am somewhat certain that it was the head of the OTO guy who had said molesting children was the way to gain eternal life. It might have been someone else, I am not sure. South Park even had an episode about it Some of those episodes, they actually take something that is real and make it seem like a joke, which makes it all the more funny I think.
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You certainly seem to feel like getting attacked alot on this forum danielson23uk. What did this thread have to do with freemasonry in the first place?

I am somewhat certain that it was the head of the OTO guy who had said molesting children was the way to gain eternal life. It might have been someone else, I am not sure. South Park even had an episode about it Some of those episodes, they actually take something that is real and make it seem like a joke, which makes it all the more funny I think.
Which was followed by a load of anti masonic artists...... must I really be made to go back and cross reference every vile illustration on this thread showing what masons allegedly get up to?

My gripe isn't with you Kblood and if it came across as such I apologise. Good luck with your researches. But make sure you get the full picture.
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