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Old 15-11-2012, 11:48 PM   #17741
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Is there any evidence out there that is not based on conjecture?

This is a very serious issue and at the moment all that seems to be happening is a desperate search of the Internet which leads back to Scallywag's allegations that in turn do not appear to have the substance required to prove anyone's guilt.

In my view the whole Lord McAlpine scenario has taken people's eye off Jimmy Savile and his crimes, various connections and potential cover ups by the Police.

It feels like a few blokes down the pub are having a laugh and winding people with innuendo and nothing of any real substance.

If there is any solid evidence now would be the time to bring it out. The Scallywag article talks of having evidence including proof of a rape of young boy that required the boy to have hospital treatment. Yet no actual proof has been provided.

Scallywag claim Lord McAlpine was cautioned by the Strathclyde Police in 1965. The Strathclyde Police did not exist in 1965. They came into existence in the 1970s.

Strathclyde Police - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did Scallywag make a mistake here?

Scallywag go on to make allegations against Derek Laud. In the article they state he is Lord Pitt's nephew. Is it this Lord Pitt?

http://www.100greatblackbritons.com/...avid_pitt.html

Laud is described as Lord Pitt's half caste nephew. Yet all the information I can find on him state his parents were from Jamaica and came to UK in the 1950s.

Have Scallywag made another mistake here or misidentified Laud?

The more I have looked at Scallywag I feel it doesn't hold together as a piece of solid investigative journalism.

A mention is made of Laud visiting David Steel, of Laud being involved somewhere in the Squidygate issue.

Squidgygate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scallywag does not say how he was involved.

Scallywag mention that Laud, according to neighbours, brings back young men to his flat who sometime stay all night. What does that mean? It comes across like curtain twitchers keeping an eye on the gay black man in a white area and gossiping about him.

There are very serious allegations in the Scallywag article but the innuendo and possible mistake undermine the credibility of what is written.

If those named in this article are innocent parties then the authors of the Scallywag piece have caused damaged for those who seek justice for abused people in the UK.

If there is solid evidence please provide it.
Those in the know know why his name jumped to the top of the list.

A stepping stone to the global elite and their dark practices.

What do you want? A shiny polaroid of it?

90% of the mcalpine pressure on here is directed at them, not him.

As soon as 'the tweet' was sent, Crick was on the blower.

Savile and McAlpine operated in very different ways.

Though I'm sure they swapped tales at Chequers.
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Old 15-11-2012, 11:53 PM   #17742
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More foolish bluster.
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Old 15-11-2012, 11:54 PM   #17743
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Have you not read the article??????

There is ample evidence referred to / quoted in that article which the authors have relied on in writing their article to prevent any defamation action (depending on how deep their pockets are) ...

Affidavits and police reports are never put into the public domain.

Its a stupid assertion to think that they would be.
This will be the next thing to get rubbished and banned from the net they will pick this over bit by bit , let them.
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Old 15-11-2012, 11:56 PM   #17744
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Old 15-11-2012, 11:59 PM   #17745
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Sorry you had to go through that lux_mundi. You're right. Who on earth in their right mind wants to look at little girls naked? Fucking nasty paedophiles, that's who.
That was a quote from the child model Eva Ionesco I believe

Her mother took ,
Loads of photos

apologies if I have it wroN g it's late

The sad thing is the child is so hauntingly beautiful that clothed the pictures would be mesmerising, but naked as she is is just like you've wandered into a peep show.

Sad, very sad.

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Old 16-11-2012, 12:00 AM   #17746
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this whole mess proves that the elite cannot be beaten when using their own system ,the one they created to protect themselves

the media ,law ,the police

none of these entities can be trusted
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Have you not read the article??????

There is ample evidence referred to / quoted in that article which the authors have relied on in writing their article to prevent any defamation action (depending on how deep their pockets are) ...

Affidavits and police reports are never put into the public domain.

Its a stupid assertion to think that they would be.
Public: of the community or the people as a whole

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this whole mess proves that the elite cannot be beaten when using their own system ,the one they created to protect themselves
Or the one they hijacked and corrupted to protect themselves?
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(I appreciate that the topic is the UK - I'm a Brit who lives in the un -united satanic soviet states ...but this is global , IT goes to the top everywhere these POS go and embed themselves - like parasites do . It's in their agenda to DEBASE at will - apart from sating their sub-human appetites' - the mind control is v effective on it's victims - thanks to the totally infiltrated MSM. - been that way A LONG TIME - they are just soooo fucking sure of themselves now - they can tell the whole world to take a hike FROM KIKE. )

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[video] “Conspiracy of Silence”: The program that many compromised (and now blackmailable) Republicans don’t want you to see. It is the story of a cancer at the heart of America and its continuing cover-up at the highest level!
Filed under: 'THEY' couldn't be that EVIL??,America's Getting Jacked!,Lying • ToBeFree,Media Bias Exposed,Real History • ToBeFree,Republicans Blackmailable,Sexual Assault • ToBeFree,The Soul of America — Jeff Fenske @ 12:08 am

WARNING: graphic descriptions of disgusting activity performed on young boys and girls by the powers that be

This version of Conspiracy of Silence can also be seen in its entirety here

And now also here:

Conspiracy Of Silence (Banned Discovery Channel Documentary)

Published on May 1, 2012 by mystic1dave

“Conspiracy of Silence” is a powerful, disturbing documentary revealing a nationwide child abuse and pedophilia ring that leads to the highest levels of government. Featuring intrepid investigator John DeCamp, a highly decorated Vietnam war veteran and 16-year Nebraska state senator, “Conspiracy of Silence” reveals how rogue elements at all levels of government have been involved in systematic child abuse and pedophilia to feed the base desires of key politicians….Check this out! Satanic Ritual Abuse:http://mysticalmusingsandpolitics.bl...ual-abuse.html

Based on DeCamp’s riveting book, The Franklin Cover-up, “Conspiracy of Silence” begins with the shut-down of Nebraska’s Franklin Community Federal Credit Union after a raid by federal agencies in November 1988 revealed that $40 million was missing. When the Nebraska legislature launched a probe into the affair, what initially looked like a financial swindle soon exploded into a startling tale of drugs, money laundering, and a nationwide child abuse ring. Nineteen months later, the legislative committee’s chief investigator died suddenly and violently, like more than a dozen other people linked to the Franklin case.

So why have you never heard of the Franklin cover-up? Originally scheduled to air in May of 1994 on the Discovery Channel, “Conspiracy of Silence” was yanked at the last minute due to formidable pressure applied by top politicians. Some very powerful people did not want you to watch this documentary.

You may find yourself becoming angry or upset while watching “Conspiracy of Silence.” Many people do. However, consider that each of us has at times in our life acted out of selfish motives when it comes to sexuality and ended up hurting others in one way or another. Let us take this information not only as a call to stop this kind of abuse at the nationwide level, but also as a call to examine our own sexual relationships and make a commitment to deep honesty and integrity in our own lives around this most sensitive issue. Thanks for caring and may we all work together to build a brighter future for ourselves and for our world.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.

NOTE; This film had to be reassembled from remaining VHS fragments after an all-out effort was made to block the films release and destroy all extant copies. Every effort has been made to restore it to the original and complete “meant to be broadcast” version.

For additional information on this video, and download information:http://www.archive.org/details/Consp...OfWashingtonDc

Here are some related articles: http://www.american-buddha.com/franklincoverup.13.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils...town_abuse.htm

http://franklincoverup.com/index.php...&task=view&id=

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Transcriptions mostly from here

On Tuesday, May 3rd 1994 this program* was scheduled to air on the Discovery Channel.

Influential members of congress applied pressure to the cable industry to stop the airing of the program and destroy ALL COPIES!

It was already listed nationwide-wide in the April30th-May 6th edition of TV Guide and newspaper supplements.

The Discovery channel and Yorkshire Television were reimbursed for the 1/4 to 1/2 MILLION dollars production costs.

THIS IS THE PROGRAM THEY DIDN’T WANT YOU TO SEE!

* Opening statement from the slightly shorter (and definitely poorer quality) version: Pedophilia in the White House: “Conspiracy of Silence”

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE – FRANKLIN SCANDAL 1/7 LONGER CUT

THEFRANKLINFILM — November 25, 2009 — RECENTLY DISCOVERED LONGER, HIGHER QUALITY VERSION OF THE “UNAIRED” 1993/1994 YORKSHIRE TELEVISION INVESTIGATIVE DOCUMENTARY “CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE” CONCERNING A NETWORK OF PAEDOPHILE RINGS IN NEBRASKA & WASHINGTON D.C. THAT TRADED YOUNG CHILDREN TO THE POLITICAL, BUSINESS & INSTITUTIONAL ESTABLISHMENT FOR MOLESTATION, DRUG TRAFFICKING & BLACKMAIL.

It is the story of a cancer at the heart of America and of its continuing cover-up at the highest level. One man is attempting to uncover the full story.

John DeCamp is among the most highly decorated Vietnam veterans. A former republican state senator in Lincoln Nebraska, he is now a lawyer, fighting the legacy of Lawrence King’s abuse of power.

Senator John DeCamp: It’s a web of intrigue that starts in our holy of holies, Boys Town, Nebraska, one of the most respected institutions of the United States, and spreads out like a spider web to Washington DC, right up to the steps of the nation’s capital, the steps of the White House, involves some of the most respected and powerful and richest businessmen in this United States of America. And the centerpiece of the entire web is the use of children for sex and drug dealing and drug couriers, the compromising of politicians, the compromising of businessmen, but worst of all, the corruption of key institutions of government that have the duty and responsibility to make sure these things never happen.

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE – FRANKLIN SCANDAL 2/7 LONGER CUT

Immediately, anonymous threats began.

Senator Loran Shmit: I received a phone call on the floor of the Legislature. The caller did not identify himself, but he said “Loran, you do not want to have an investigation of the Franklin Federal Credit Union”. And I asked who I was speaking to. He said “That doesn’t matter but you shouldn’t have an investigation” And I said “Well, why not?” He said “It will reach to the highest levels of the Republican Party. And we’re both good Republicans.”

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE – FRANKLIN SCANDAL 3/7 LONGER CUT

Alisha’s horrible cry at 1 minute says it all!

Karen Ormiston: The media immediately started discrediting the witnesses. The witnesses came across in the media, in the Omaha World Herald, especially, as the criminals.

Shmit: I was very disappointed with the way the FBI and law enforcement treated the victims. They, in fact, turned them into the offenders, so to speak. And instead of taking the evidence that was delivered to them by the victims, and interrogating the persons whom the victims identified, they seemed to bear down and try to get the victims to change their story.

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE – FRANKLIN SCANDAL 4/7 LONGER CUT

DeCamp: “They [the FBI - ed.], now, in my opinion, in my investigation, are the architects of the cover-up.”

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE – FRANKLIN SCANDAL 5/7 LONGER CUT

John DeCamp is now the only man fighting to help Larry King’s [not the TV personality] victims.

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE – FRANKLIN SCANDAL 6/7 LONGER CUT

DeCamp: Every victim witness who stepped forward in any way, or even was a potential witness that somebody heard about, has either been killed, put in jail under some theory or other, terrified or run out of the state, discredited. Every perpetrator, every perpetrator, even the convicted ones, have been treated as conquering heroes.

DeCamp: Obviously the FBI was protecting something a lot more significant than a bunch of old pedophiles having improper relations with little boys. They were protecting something a lot more significant than bunch of drug peddlers. They were were protecting, in my opinion, they were protecting some very prominent politicians, some very powerful and wealthy individuals associated with those politicians and the political system up to and including the highest political people in this entire country.

…Washington Lobbyist, Craig Spence. Spence took youngsters including Bonnacci on private midnight tours of the White House.

DeCamp: So you were in the White House then?

Bonacci: Yes

DeCamp: And how did you gain access?

Bonacci: I came down with Larry King, but Craig Spencer is the one that arranged the trip for us. And it was a kind of a gift for services we were doing.

Spence’s call boy network was investigated in 1989 by reporter Paul Rodriguez of “The Washington Times”.

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE – FRANKLIN SCANDAL 7/7 LONGER CUT

DeCamp: If you can control three or four key elements, you can totally own a state. You can make right wrong. You can make truth falsehood— falsehood truth. If you control the media, if you control the justice department, if you control the police—you own the system.

DeCamp: The Justice Department, acting through FBI and the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Omaha, emerges from the record of the Franklin investigation not so much as a party to the cover-up, but as its coordinator. Rigging grand juries, harassment of witnesses, incitement to perjury and tampering with evidence, federal personnel were seen to apply of those techniques in the Franklin case.

Related:
John DeCamp discusses the Franklin Cover-up: “The biggest monster I’ve ever encountered!”
Insider: Pedophilia Among America’s Leaders — Including ‘Conservative’ Republican Presidents?

[ audio ] Nick Bryant, author of ‘The Franklin Scandal’ on The Power Hour with Joyce Riley: How REPUBLICAN politicians were BLACKMAILED — The audio-visual blackmail house in Washington D.C. — Rick Santorum?

Ted Gunderson: Many of our congressmen and senators have been blackmailed through children, sex and drugs…”and we don’t have enough people like Kucinich and Ron Paul to stand up.”

[NBC 1989] Call Boys Take Midnight Tour of Reagan/Bush White House

Invisible Empire Sneak Peek #4 — Call Boy Rings Exposed. “Many of us believe that our leaders are in fact Christian conservatives with our best interest at heart…” | But WE must have INTEGRITY no matter what.

Mark Dice: Hunter S. Thompson produced child porn & snuff films?

[The Prophecy Club] The Ted Gunderson Chronicles

Dr. Stan & Ted Gunderson on How “They’re” Able to Do It: “Once you understand the things that actually go on at Bohemian Grove…” — “This Satanic element has infiltrated all levels of our government”

‘Presidential Secrets’: Former CIA Operative Chip Tatum Speaks About Drug Running, G.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Oliver North, Neutralizing Ross Perot, Task Force 160’s Darkest Green (‘Black’) Helicopters, Assassinations
Dr. Stan interviews Nick Bryant: The Franklin Scandal — A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal
Pedophilia in the White House — Interview with John DeCamp (Nebraska State Senator)
The Homosexual Guild in D.C.: “They’re outing their white, male straights.”
Blackmail: How The Controlling Elite Owns Politicians — Almost every one of them has some dark secret that they can be blackmailed over if they fail to follow the Washington consensus.

[video] Brian Gerrish: Powerful Paedophile Ring Linked to Parliament Exposed

All of my Republicans Blackmailable posts
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Old 16-11-2012, 12:06 AM   #17750
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Is there any evidence out there that is not based on conjecture?

This is a very serious issue and at the moment all that seems to be happening is a desperate search of the Internet which leads back to Scallywag's allegations that in turn do not appear to have the substance required to prove anyone's guilt.

In my view the whole Lord McAlpine scenario has taken people's eye off Jimmy Savile and his crimes, various connections and potential cover ups by the Police.

It feels like a few blokes down the pub are having a laugh and winding people with innuendo and nothing of any real substance.

If there is any solid evidence now would be the time to bring it out. The Scallywag article talks...
I agree. I've been following this thread closely (and have put up a few decent posts myself) and it's mostly been great work BUT not much progress is being made just at the moment. The ovenden photos r a dead end as is the b&b. As is lord m unless someone uncovers new evidence, e.g. Strathclyde (unlikely). Plenty of other leads to explore though... Keep trying different angles.

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seems to me that alot of people are obsessing over something which could very well be a massive stitch up job. would be much better if we spread awareness of actual proven establishment convictions. we have been spun to look like the baying mob and are reacting in entirely the wrong way imo. of course some people may have first hand experience/evidence so they know that this side of the issue needs to be followed through, but we are playing into their hands.

nice to see so many people not falling for the establishments 'one case of mistaken identity lets all go back to sleep' bollocks though. links into a dream i had the other night where the big establishment players were all having a game of football, yet they were tripping themselves up at every turn. hopefully representative of the corner they have backed themselves into, and how each attempt at covering up is just leading more and more people to ask questions
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My internet trawling led me to Gareth Williams' death again this week. I was struck by some details while I was reading and I hope you don't mind me airing them here. I know it probably sounds far fetched (feel free to ignore me ) - but anyway here goes:
  • Houdini (the escapologist) died on the day Jimmy Savile was born.
  • The N. Wales abuse scandal - Gordon Anglesey was named - he sued Private Eye and others for libel. Charges were never brought against him.
  • McAlpine - Lord McAlpine named by Scallywag magazine. Other McAlpine family members names came up - due to proximity of their estate to the homes in N. Wales. Alpine - Alps - mountain range famous for the six great north faces due their height and difficulty to climb.
  • "Let the cat out of the bag" - means to disclose a secret too soon. Etymology - said to derive from market trading when live animals were sold in bags (or pokes - hence the term "a pig in a poke") and also sometimes said to relate to the "cat o' nine tails".
  • Pimlico - Dolphin Square - allegedly a venue for 'rent boy' parties involving politicians - links to N. Wales care home sexual abuse. Mi6 also mentioned in relation to blackmail and paedophile rings - and these parties.


Gareth Williams Mi6 - code breaker. Born in Anglesey. Buried in Anglesey. Found dead in his Pimlico flat in August 2010.
He was in a red North Face bag. The bag was padlocked from the outside.
The death was very mysterious - but didn't provoke as much incredulity with the public as I expected.

An expert tried to lock himself in a similar bag - 300 attempts and no success:

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But a second expert, Peter Faulding, said he tried and failed to get into the bag 300 times. “My conclusion is he was placed in the bag unconscious or was dead when he was put in the bag. I cannot say it is impossible but I think even Houdini would struggle with this one.”
There were problems with evidence and various cock ups by the police. The press tried their very best to discredit Gareth Williams - saying he was into bondage, cross-dressing, etc. despite his closest friends and family denying this. They wanted us to think that it was a bizarre sex game gone wrong.

The final (grudging) conclusion was that someone else probably killed Gareth Williams.

Even the Daily Mail conceded that it was a bit dodgy and that there seemed to be a pattern of suspicious deaths made to look like suicide/sex games gone wrong - especially with Mi6 employees and politicians who perhaps knew too much.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...onspiracy.html

I was just struck by the strange synchronicity and prophetic nature of the details that's all.

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Exposure programme on Wednesday 10. 35pm itv 1

Almost two months on from Exposure's documentary The Other Side of Jimmy Savile, Mark Williams-Thomas tracks the progress of the police investigation into sexual abuse claims made against the former TV and radio star, asking how he achieved his considerable power and influence.

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seems to me that alot of people are obsessing over something which could very well be a massive stitch up job. would be much better if we spread awareness of actual proven establishment convictions. we have been spun to look like the baying mob and are reacting in entirely the wrong way imo. of course some people may have first hand experience/evidence so they know that this side of the issue needs to be followed through, but we are playing into their hands.

nice to see so many people not falling for the establishments 'one case of mistaken identity lets all go back to sleep' bollocks though. links into a dream i had the other night where the big establishment players were all having a game of football, yet they were tripping themselves up at every turn. hopefully representative of the corner they have backed themselves into, and how each attempt at covering up is just leading more and more people to ask questions
I think this is a really prophetic dream!

I can't shake the feeling that whatever "they" do or say now, they've gone too far and for too long.... Give Them Enough Rope springs to mind.
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Oops. I posted the same link after you. Sorry about that.

Here's another article about the erotic photo sale, from The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2003...vercashsection



Again, it might be worth saving the web page, in case it mysteriously vanishes.
OR QUITE SIMPLY SEARCH GOOGLE AND FILTER IMAGES ONLY
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Old 16-11-2012, 12:12 AM   #17756
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Have you not read the article??????

There is ample evidence referred to / quoted in that article which the authors have relied on in writing their article to prevent any defamation action (depending on how deep their pockets are) ...

Affidavits and police reports are never put into the public domain.

Its a stupid assertion to think that they would be.
I do not agree. The article suggests that there is documentary evidence And uses some information that was in the public domain regarding a know pedophile ring that operated in North Wales!

You state the authors have ample evidence. The authors name Lord McAlpine but there is no evidence other than hearsay dressed up with a very serious case that is documented and was in the public domain when they wrote the article. The authors include gossip about Portillo, Lilley and Laud that is little more no innuendo and conjecture.

The article asserts twice that McAlpine was cautioned in1965 by the Strathclyde Police. The Strathclyde Police did not exist in 1965. A simple fact like this can
destroy the credibility of a case in court.

There needs to be stronger evidence than what has been provided in this article.

As to why those mentioned did not sue, I believe that there are a couple of possible reasons.

Scallywag had no money, so it becomes an expensive way to defend a reputation. Libel cases don't come cheap.

Scallywag was not a high circulation paper. The named people would possibly have been advised that having their names dragged through courts may have been more damaging to their reputations and given more publicity to the libel than the initial publication did even if they were innocent.

I think a critical eye needs to be cast over all the information put out by the media both main stream and not so mainstream.

I do think the Scallywag article has been been damaging in its own way to this very serious matter. Everyone and their mother knows about this article thanks to the Internet and has taken it as fact with regard to McAlpine, Laud, Portillo and Lilley. Yet when I took the time to look a little further I found discrepancies that undermine the allegations against the above.

I want to see the truth and see justice for those abused and still being abused by the system. I am just more convinced that the Scallywag article is not the tool it purports to be in this case.

If those responsible have the evidence then please provide it.
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this whole mess proves that the elite cannot be beaten when using their own system ,the one they created to protect themselves

the media ,law ,the police

none of these entities can be trusted
yes zen .. that's the truth. No matter how many good people may work for them - the cruel, corrupt and debased 'rule'.

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As to why those mentioned did not sue, I believe that there are a couple of possible reasons.

Scallywag had no money, so it becomes an expensive way to defend a reputation. Libel cases don't come cheap.

Scallywag was not a high circulation paper. The named people would possibly have been advised that having their names dragged through courts may have been more damaging to their reputations and given more publicity to the libel than the initial publication did even if they were innocent.
Didn't John Major sue Scallywag?
And that Julian bloke certainly did.
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Old 16-11-2012, 12:16 AM   #17759
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More foolish bluster.
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Old 16-11-2012, 12:19 AM   #17760
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Good god, the Daily Mail really is a vile, disgusting paper, and most of it's regular readers are a vile and disgusting bunch. So vile and disgusting, they makes me admire Sally Bercow in comparison.

Just read some of the comments. I want to vomit.

"Meanwhile, Phillip Schofield was accused of 'destroying' Lord McAlpine's reputation and 'embarrassing' the Prime Minister as he was disciplined by ITV for his paedophile TV blunder...........

When asked if McAlpine will sue if she does not get in touch, Mr Reid (Milords lawyer) said: 'She would have left us with no choice...............

He added that it was time to clamp down on Twitter, which allowed people to say 'vile, disgusting' things.

'We have been inundated by the public who have wanted us to deal with this problem of Twitter, and have encouraged and in some cases have actually offered us funds.' "


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html#comments
would clamping down on Twitter help us or them?
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