Jimmy Savile OUTED as a PAEDO OCT 3rd

[rationalenquirer]

Originally Posted by luv evreone

I had a theory that Leveson was connected to this.

If you read many of the 'supposed' smart people online, they think much of this is Murdoch taking revenge for the phone hacking stuff. It was conveniently pinned on, basically, News Corp and not many others for some reason? It's been spun into BBC vs RM. Same thing with the Mail, they hate BBC for a while now, made into a big issue. When this broke many were saying the Mail is just bashing the Beeb. How convenient again? These people still see through their unwise 'divided media' eyes. It's one of the only things holding it all together now. Bashing the Beeb just helps separate others from the source and makes it seem MSM don't care for them. They (TPTB) probably do want it slimmed down/done over, again how convenient we have people ready to help.

This is thee time people should be waking up and asking why all the MSM, including the papers helped keep JS safe and the ''White-Knight'' lie alive and kicking. I see people saying if there was any dirt on the Royals it would have come out years ago like all the other scandals the Tabloids go after. Them not realizing that it's just drip-feed and nothing compared to the 'Real' truth. It's incredibly convenient RM is this barrier against TPTB, and he is wounded/wants revenge etc...

I think he is a key piece holding this flood back for some people. They are very much still (after many years) stuck in the false right/left paradigm. Exactly the same for some with the party politics, the Tory party for example. Another big enemy of the Beeb apparently. How convenient the party in (most) power and who a lot of the claims relate to, just so happens to be averse to the (other highly implicated) entity that people now want to shut down? The MS as a whole might not even be held in much esteem, you just need people to still believe there is dissension between the organisations in question.

So, they have made sure all of this is fresh in people's minds. All they can do is throw invisible shit and hope enough people are convinced they still see it stick. They are quite happy to sacrifice Beeb, make them do wrong, get everyone to blame them, as the source, and thus they all look like they are against TPTB, yet they are just perpetuating the myth there is any real division, which is why they don't go all in, and also change tune when it suits.

I honestly think this might have been cooked up as an obvious way to play it quite a while back. They knew this would hit the fan, so needed a plan, they had plenty of time. I think this is also why The Sun put up the Vile/HDLG links?

We now have people wanting better regulation of Media (Leveson), yet this thing with Vile shows why the Press need the freedom to report these kind of stories (plenty of MSM have brought this up). The last thing they would want is people thinking all the MSM together helped keep this thing safe. It's critical we see them at war and not on the same page as the curtain is then pulled back.

Plus, not only does it make it look like corruption is being routed out. Also there's the fact many public think, ''well, they hacked all these phones yet didn't pull up any major wrongdoing'', so subconsciously make a link that this then means many people can't have much to hide, as the MSM tabloids would just love to get the dirt and spill the beans. These people can't physically get past the FACT a lot of stories are kept out the press, they think journos are so blood hungry they would print any links and chance they get to out a possible scandal. Yet we now know guys like Vile got away free for decades, so like i say, it's vital the GBP don't realize all the MSM are in cahoots. Their 'apparent' divisions are holding them together ATM.

Then we come to the recent talk of Leveson and the Interwebz and now i'm just more convinced this was a long term plan?

Am i off the mark here??

Re Leveson. I was watching Appropriate Adult (the thing about Fred West) the other night, and I was shocked to hear the Judge refer to one of the barristers in court as Mr Leveson. I believe he was defence lawyer, not sure. But it seems Leveson is deeply, deeply involved with the whole cover up - especially if Fred West was procuring for top people as seems distinctly possible.

[hagbardceline]

Does Bruno "encounter" Savile at the gYm in the Early dayS?

Does Jimmy Savile continually "pop-up" when Bruno least expects it in later life as a classic control mechanism emploYed by abusers who fEar expoSure?

[pravda]

Originally Posted by bracon

Just saw this on

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012...sey-wales.html



I am so angry I want to cry.

I am crying

[pravda]

Originally Posted by ceej

Welcome. So many people are in the same boat now. It's like the lid's been lifted and all of us who thought we had the measure of UK life are struggling to understand this more realistic and nastier picture.

It's as if all us 'ordinary people' have been forced to live in a massive scale Truman Show for years. Like Truman, we're waking up to the fact of the world they hid from us.

Good on you for contacting your MP. What was the response? I've found MPs to be seriously ineffectual or too concerned with their own pet projects, and usually in bed with the local powers that be.

yes the Truman Show, I often think of that analogy...spot on...

[lux_mundi]

Originally Posted by kevin

On a chess board....the bishops stand by the side of the king and queen.
Their kights are toppling, now their bishops.
The king and queen will be totally exposed soon.
Then it's time for check mate?
Kevin

Well, that's certainly a nice thought Kevin.

The Royals certainly don't seem very good judges of character, do they?

Prince Andrew - Epstein

Prince Charles - Jimmy Saville

Right Rev'd Bishop Peter Ball

The Right Reverend Bishop Peter Ball resigned in 1993 after receiving a police caution for committing an act of gross indecency against a teenager.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-18240733

"Loyal Friend" - not just an acquaintance.

Ball, of Langport, Somerset, resigned as Bishop in 1993, only two years after he was appointed.

He quit after receiving a police caution for committing an act of gross indecency against a trainee teenage monk.

Shortly afterwards he was given sanctuary by the Prince of Wales who personally invited him to live in Manor Lodge, in the village of Aller, Somerset, a Duchy of Cornwall property.

http://swns.com/news/prince-charles-...igation-27597/

I'm sure we could compile a long list of paedophiles who are friends of the Royal Family.

[thentherewere4]

....................a Duchy of Cornwall property.

Duchess






O Me
O My
O My ol'Dutch

[concernedmom]

Originally Posted by rolly55

One wild theory that i have no evidence for whatsoever, is that it was a blackmail attempt. Similar to other stories of getting rich/powerful people to abuse kids then photograph them doing it and bribe away.

Was this photo on attempt to try and get some 'dirt' on Bruno? 'You dont want this picture in the paper Frank' etc. I dont know. It didnt seem to do his public image that much damage so maybe not. It is suspicious that Bruno went so badly off the rails though. Perhaps he couldnt be blackmailed and so they went down another route. The destroy him route.

All just wild speculation of course, could be he was simply not the sharpest knife and Savile used him for a cheap photo.

As for the Water Rats, i may be wrong, but i dont think it has anything to do with Freemasonry. Isn't it a charity to help down and out entertainment types?

Why aren't there any women involved in the Water Rats? It appears to me to be male s only which is odd don't you think?

[doctor fish]

Interesting page on the Fred West questions linking Satan worship ...

'I have no doubt at all that this clue [the missing finger bones] being buried separately caused Dr. Murray to believe that the crime was linked with witchcraft. For in Devil worship the hand of an executed person was greatly coveted by devotees of the cult.'

http://www.missingpersons-ireland.fr...dertoorder.htm

[ceej]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ceej
It's as if all us 'ordinary people' have been forced to live in a massive scale Truman Show for years. Like Truman, we're waking up to the fact of the world they hid from us.

>>>I was going to mention the Truman Show the other day. So many things swirling in my head that I haven't mentioned. I think the film was saying we were all not far off becoming Trumans wasn't it? I've never read a thread analysing it. Anyhow, I see all of us awakened as one big Truman trying to escape the matrix and the powers that be trying to stop us at every corner, like with the bus breaking down etc.. They failed in the movie and are going to fail now.

Yep, all the dots are joining up now, and we Trumans are waking.

It seems more and more likely that Hollywood producers have been deliberately trying to tell us (Matrix, Truman, Eyes Wide Shut etc) for years exactly how it all works.

Quote:
Originally Posted by youcannotbeserious
Maybe the first idea to start a childline was a good one but has become too big and powerful and forgotten the real message of why they first started - to help children!!!

>>>I think the genesis of the idea stemmed from people who didn't have child safety on their checklist. Just my opinion.

As a parent of children who were assaulted by the massive initial Childline campaign (which went into schools and frit the shit out of many a child and parent), I am 100% certain that child safety was not the main item on the agenda.

I saw the materials my kids brought home. We parents were subject to the horribly subversive effects it all had on family life.

My children, confident, smart, articulate and untouched by abuse, used to hold up to us parents those evil little yellow and black plastic Childline cards they'd been given - like footie refs waving the yellow card - whenever we asked them to do the washing up, tidy their rooms, get on with their homework etc. Once or twice they even went as far as dialling the 0800 number to complain about being asked to do normal chores....!

Parental guidance, responsibility and authority undermined thoroughly.

For years, I've said that if ever I meet Esther Rantzen I'd give her a piece of my mind. Even more so now that we know she KNEW about paedos at the Beeb and did NOTHING. And that we can see from the NSPCC's own reports that they are failing kids yet have a massive income.

[noncooperation]

Originally Posted by justin1972

What was his connection to France? He allegedly cycled there, after being rendered with a spinal injury as a Bevin Boy, aged 14 (he'd be 14 years-old in 1940, during World War II).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19921658

At some point between allegedly suffering a spinal injury in 1940 and allegedly inventing discotheques in 1947 he allegedly cycled around France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile#Early_life

His auction sold six photos of him, on a private visit to Normandy:

http://www.dnfa.com/search.asp?view=...eid=445466-938

This is suspect for a man whom never ceased to utilise every minutae of his public appearances, as a photo opportunity.

You mentioned France - one of the meanings of BHM (question 2-3 posts before the above quote) is: Banque de l'Habitat du Mali (Mali Housing Bank)

[dolores1]

Originally Posted by heartbeatsalute

Conspiracy Of Silence - Franklin Cover Up - YouTube
CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE




First of all, THANK YOU for posting this documentary in an effort to spread the word about pedophilia among the elite. That said, I would strongly encourage you to post a couple of mirror copies of this video, if possible. YouTube has deleted several other videos related to this topic. Whenever I would return to a specific link a month or so later, a message from YouTube would pop up saying it had been deleted. In the meantime, I will direct as many people to this video as I possibly can.

This is an excellent listen and tells how widespread this sacrifice and rape of children is! Rev. Kevin has charged the Queen and the Pope.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...D-FgbkQQ.email


D.

[marny]

The Right Reverend Bishop Peter Ball resigned in 1993 after receiving a police caution for committing an act of gross indecency against a teenager.

Told some time ago Masons meet certain part of Wells Cathedral , Langport , diocese Bath and Wells.

[chillyheat]

Originally Posted by concernedmom

It always struck me that Laura was quiet, even more so with the Savile thing. Is she 'controlled' in some way do you think?

Im trying to put something together regarding Bruno and his life....Its difficult with limited info. Ive searched the BBC Archives for any footage at Broadmoor, obviously nothing....



In January 2001, Bruno announced that he wanted to stand as the Conservative candidate in the traditionally safe Tory seat of Brentwood and Ongar against the independent Member of Parliament, Martin Bell. His proposed slogan was "Don't be a plank, vote for Frank!" However, this idea was quickly dismissed by Conservative Central Office.


Its as if Frank was given, or made to feel important. Whether he understood his importance is another matter. The name Hari Sewel pops up now and again. He helped Frank in his recovery. He also comes from Reading in Berkshire (home of Broadmoor). Its loose links at the moment, but I will dig in. Perhaps Jimmy went through Harry Carpenter to toy with Bruno....Its all strange.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3131690.stm

[lux_mundi]

Originally Posted by marny

Told some time ago Masons meet certain part of Wells Cathedral , Langport , diocese Bath and Wells.

Makes me think of Black Adder - "the baby eating Bishop of Bath and Wells" (played by Robbie Coltrane?).

[obliette]

Originally Posted by concernedmom

Why aren't there any women involved in the Water Rats? It appears to me to be male s only which is odd don't you think?

Like the masons, they have their own arm

http://www.golr.co.uk/historyofgolr.html

The Lady Ratlings
"Of other events and happenings since the re-organisation of the Grand Order of Water Rats, one of the most important was the formation of the Lady Ratlings. In June 1929 Charlie Austin gave a "Trigo" banquet at the club to celebrate a win he had on a horse of that name in the Derby, his guests including wives, daughters and other female relatives of the members. At that banquet the idea of the ladies section of the order was mooted, and taken up with much enthusiasm. It was generally agreed that some such organisation would serve a very useful purpose in bringing the ladies of the profession together, as it was felt old friends were losing touch, and the younger generation unacquainted, so that when social events took place the ladies were virtual strangers to one another. Names and subscriptions came pouring in, and from the outset success was assured. The growth of the Grand Order of Lady Ratlings has been remarkable, and the pessimistic prognostications that the girls would not stick together entirely falsified. They abide by their motto "ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR ONE."

[marny]

Originally Posted by lux_mundi

Makes me think of Black Adder - "the baby eating Bishop of Bath and Wells" (played by Robbie Coltrane?).

Ball, 80, of Langport, Somerset, resigned as Bishop of Gloucester in 1993, after receiving a police caution for committing an act of gross indecency against a teenage trainee monk.

Shortly afterwards he was given sanctuary by Prince Charles who invited him to live in Manor Lodge in the village of Aller, Somerset, a Duchy of Cornwall property.

Speaking at the time, Ball said: “He (The Prince of Wales) has been wonderfully kind and allowed me to have a duchy house. The prince is a loyal friend.”

After his resignation he continued working in churches until 2010. Last night his Permission to Officiate was suspended.

SEARCH UK NEWS for:

[chillyheat]

Originally Posted by chillyheat

Im trying to put something together regarding Bruno and his life....Its difficult with limited info. Ive searched the BBC Archives for any footage at Broadmoor, obviously nothing....



In January 2001, Bruno announced that he wanted to stand as the Conservative candidate in the traditionally safe Tory seat of Brentwood and Ongar against the independent Member of Parliament, Martin Bell. His proposed slogan was "Don't be a plank, vote for Frank!" However, this idea was quickly dismissed by Conservative Central Office.


Its as if Frank was given, or made to feel important. Whether he understood his importance is another matter. The name Hari Sewel pops up now and again. He helped Frank in his recovery. He also comes from Reading in Berkshire (home of Broadmoor). Its loose links at the moment, but I will dig in. Perhaps Jimmy went through Harry Carpenter to toy with Bruno....Its all strange.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3131690.stm

Boxing legend Frank Bruno has spoken about his year from hell after the death of three of his closest friends.

The former world heavyweight champion who turned 50 last Wednesday was rocked by the loss of pals Sir Jimmy Savile and fellow former boxers Sir Henry Cooper and Gary Mason.

Big Frank, who is now a tireless charity worker, admitted that reaching 50 had made him take stock of his life and realise how lucky he is.

Speaking exclusively to The People, the father of four said: “It has been the year from hell and a big drain ­because I’ve lost people who were extremely close to me.

“Jimmy, Henry and Gary were ­almost like family.

Father figure: Harry Carpenter and Frank

“Frank and I went to Jimmy’s ­funeral service in Leeds and he was very ­grateful for the support of local people there who treated him like the legend he is.”

Recalling his fondness for Sir Jimmy who died two days short of his 85th birthday last month, Frank called him “one in a million” and “a very special man”.

[lux_mundi]

Originally Posted by noncooperation

You mentioned France - one of the meanings of BHM (question 2-3 posts before the above quote) is: Banque de l'Habitat du Mali (Mali Housing Bank)

I was thinking safety deposit box.

Someone else said perhaps a car?

It's 9 carat gold though - so something special.

1964. That's the year TOTPs started. So he was already wealthy by then - even before his career on TV took off.

I had a funny thought - BuckingHaM! Savile referred to himself as King Jimmy.

[obliette]

Originally Posted by bracon

Just saw this on

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012...sey-wales.html

I am so angry I want to cry.

I am sorry, but this post does seem odd, I am not convinced it is true. Too many triggers, poor spelling, heart rending in a very contrived way. I might be wrong, but this one smells fishy!

[dolores1]

Originally Posted by luv evreone

I had a theory that Leveson was connected to this.

If you read many of the 'supposed' smart people online, they think much of this is Murdoch taking revenge for the phone hacking stuff. It was conveniently pinned on, basically, News Corp and not many others for some reason? It's been spun into BBC vs RM. Same thing with the Mail, they hate BBC for a while now, made into a big issue. When this broke many were saying the Mail is just bashing the Beeb. How convenient again? These people still see through their unwise 'divided media' eyes. It's one of the only things holding it all together now. Bashing the Beeb just helps separate others from the source and makes it seem MSM don't care for them. They (TPTB) probably do want it slimmed down/done over, again how convenient we have people ready to help.

This is thee time people should be waking up and asking why all the MSM, including the papers helped keep JS safe and the ''White-Knight'' lie alive and kicking. I see people saying if there was any dirt on the Royals it would have come out years ago like all the other scandals the Tabloids go after. Them not realizing that it's just drip-feed and nothing compared to the 'Real' truth. It's incredibly convenient RM is this barrier against TPTB, and he is wounded/wants revenge etc...

I think he is a key piece holding this flood back for some people. They are very much still (after many years) stuck in the false right/left paradigm. Exactly the same for some with the party politics, the Tory party for example. Another big enemy of the Beeb apparently. How convenient the party in (most) power and who a lot of the claims relate to, just so happens to be averse to the (other highly implicated) entity that people now want to shut down? The MS as a whole might not even be held in much esteem, you just need people to still believe there is dissension between the organisations in question.

So, they have made sure all of this is fresh in people's minds. All they can do is throw invisible shit and hope enough people are convinced they still see it stick. They are quite happy to sacrifice Beeb, make them do wrong, get everyone to blame them, as the source, and thus they all look like they are against TPTB, yet they are just perpetuating the myth there is any real division, which is why they don't go all in, and also change tune when it suits.

I honestly think this might have been cooked up as an obvious way to play it quite a while back. They knew this would hit the fan, so needed a plan, they had plenty of time. I think this is also why The Sun put up the Vile/HDLG links?

We now have people wanting better regulation of Media (Leveson), yet this thing with Vile shows why the Press need the freedom to report these kind of stories (plenty of MSM have brought this up). The last thing they would want is people thinking all the MSM together helped keep this thing safe. It's critical we see them at war and not on the same page as the curtain is then pulled back.

Plus, not only does it make it look like corruption is being routed out. Also there's the fact many public think, ''well, they hacked all these phones yet didn't pull up any major wrongdoing'', so subconsciously make a link that this then means many people can't have much to hide, as the MSM tabloids would just love to get the dirt and spill the beans. These people can't physically get past the FACT a lot of stories are kept out the press, they think journos are so blood hungry they would print any links and chance they get to out a possible scandal. Yet we now know guys like Vile got away free for decades, so like i say, it's vital the GBP don't realize all the MSM are in cahoots. Their 'apparent' divisions are holding them together ATM.

Then we come to the recent talk of Leveson and the Interwebz and now i'm just more convinced this was a long term plan?

Am i off the mark here??

I am post ing a bit but please take time to read the whole thing - many links joining ther dots!

“We were involved in and spoke at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse in Trafalgar Square last Saturday (7 Aug 2010). Filmmaker and child abuse survivor Bill Maloney opened the Rally with a rousing speech in which he committed treason under Nelson’s column declaring that the Queen Mother was a paedophile. Diana had apparently declared to a close friend that she was evil. Her footman, who had previously been a butler to the Queen, was a convicted child sex offender who used to groom his victims by taking them to parties with the Queen Mother at Clarence House” – Spokes person for UKRACA


Linkhttp://www.ccs-rochford.co.uk/spivey/?p=3786:


Chris Spivey has a great deal of info!

D,